PS3 is good, Sony is not.

I think if Sony really tried, the PS3 would be doing better than the 360 right now.DuDisNow

Maybe if gow2 came out for the ps3 things would be a little bit better..but I doubt much will be changed though cos casuals will be looking at the price tag first and blue ray is not really what they need right now with the established dvd and all that unless they have hdtv. If ps3 is launched with a lighter pricetag like $450 or so, it could be doing well.

I think they put in pretty much alot of effort on the ps3 now..more than the ps2. The ps2 game lineup looks pretty stale right now.

just like the ps3 sony said the ps2 is a 10year system and they intend to keep it that way.river_rat3117

[QUOTE="DuDisNow"]I think if Sony really tried, the PS3 would be doing better than the 360 right now.jack_russel

Lord aint that the truth. :lol:

[QUOTE="DuDisNow"]I think if Sony really tried, the PS3 would be doing better than the 360 right now.jack_russel

its a good thing. they are making money out of the PS2. and that money will help them afford another price cut.

so you want them to stop the support for the PS2 and cut the price of the PS3? lol what a smart move

Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all equally bad in their own ways.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="DuDisNow"]I think if Sony really tried, the PS3 would be doing better than the 360 right now.DuDisNow

Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all equally bad in there own ways.

_en1gma_

They're bad in their own ways but hardly equally bad.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all equally bad in there own ways.

CyanX73

They're bad in their own ways but hardly equally bad.

[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all equally bad in there own ways.

jack_russel

They're bad in their own ways but hardly equally bad.

Call me crazy, but if I had to say one of those problems was the worst of the three, I'd go with broken consoles. You buy a Wii knowing Nintendo doesn't get the 3rd party love, you buy a PS3 knowing it's expensive and there isn't a big slection of games right now, you buy a 360 expecting it to break? No. You know there's a problem but I doubt anyone buys it expecting it to fail on them. That sir, is the most serious problem of the three.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all equally bad in there own ways.

CyanX73

They're bad in their own ways but hardly equally bad.

Call me crazy, but if I had to say one of those problems was the worst of the three, I'd go with broken consoles. You buy a Wii knowing Nintendo doesn't get the 3rd party love, you buy a PS3 knowing it's expensive and there isn't a big slection of games right now, you buy a 360 expecting it to break? No. You know there's a problem but I doubt anyone buys it expecting it to fail on them. That sir, is the most serious problem of the three.

How is working with the best selling console ever stupid? That's called not abandoning people that bought your product. Something MS did to Xbox owners. CyanX73

And look at how well its selling compared to the PS3... Good luck with that 10 year life span. :lol:

[QUOTE="CyanX73"]How is working with the best selling console ever stupid? That's called not abandoning people that bought your product. Something MS did to Xbox owners. Magical_Zebra

And look at how well its selling compared to the PS3... Good luck with that 10 year life span. :lol:

Usually you let other people laugh at your jokes :roll:. I guess the smart move is to cut off anything for your other consoles when your new one comes out? That would be when I began to resent a company. Not saying you support a product forever, but to just cut it off as soon as your new product is out would be very foul and sends a bad message to your customers.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="CyanX73"]How is working with the best selling console ever stupid? That's called not abandoning people that bought your product. Something MS did to Xbox owners. CyanX73

And look at how well its selling compared to the PS3... Good luck with that 10 year life span. :lol:

Usually you let other people laugh at your jokes :roll:. I guess the smart move is to cut off anything for your other consoles when your new one comes out? That would be when I began to resent a company. Not saying you support a product forever, but to just cut it off as soon as your new product is out would be very foul and sends a bad message to your customers.

Ill keep this short and sweet. M$ intention with the Xbox was to secure a foothold in the market. M$ did not gain a single penny with the Xbox. It did however cause previous Xbox owners and others to purchase the 360 which appears to be selling well. Not as good as the Wii, but definately better than the PS3. It didnt send a bad message to me. M$ included a 10 gig hard drive and a powerful gpu in its orginal console. I looked forward to the next console and I wasnt dissappointed. :shock:

Ill keep this short and sweet. M$ intention with the Xbox was to secure a foothold in the market. M$ did not gain a single penny with the Xbox. It did however cause previous Xbox owners and others to purchase the 360 which appears to be selling well. Not as good as the Wii, but definately better than the PS3. It didnt send a bad message to me. M$ included a 10 gig hard drive and a powerful gpu in its orginal console. I looked forward to the next console and I wasnt dissappointed. :shock:

Magical_Zebra

You shouldn't take a general statement and attempt to refute it with a particular instance. I could have guessed it didn't apply to you given your obvious support for 360. Selling much better than PS3? You are aware that PS3 is actually selling better, at this point in it's existence, better than 360? As far as gaining a single penny, Xbox just lost MS a large amount of money. Would you then be okay with MS bailing on 360 the way they did with the original Xbox if/when they launch their new console?

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Ill keep this short and sweet. M$ intention with the Xbox was to secure a foothold in the market. M$ did not gain a single penny with the Xbox. It did however cause previous Xbox owners and others to purchase the 360 which appears to be selling well. Not as good as the Wii, but definately better than the PS3. It didnt send a bad message to me. M$ included a 10 gig hard drive and a powerful gpu in its orginal console. I looked forward to the next console and I wasnt dissappointed. :shock:

CyanX73

You shouldn't take a general statement and attempt to refute it with a particular instance. I could have guessed it didn't apply to you given your obvious support for 360. Selling much better than PS3? You are aware that PS3 is actually selling better, at this point in it's existence, better than 360? As far as gaining a single penny, Xbox just lost MS a large amount of money. Would you then be okay with MS bailing on 360 the way they did with the original Xbox if/when they launch their new console?

This coming from the person who basically said he is a Sony fanboy? But you tried to call me anti Sony and I posted a link to my blog entry in reference to my PSP (A Sony product) which you still havent replied to.

As far as the PS3 selling better then the 360 at this point in existence, do you have a link?

Be ok with them bailing now? Hell no I wouldnt. Its not feasible for them to bail now on the 360 when it looks slated for them to start turning a profit with the release of Halo 3. Not to mention the cost of R&D. I worry more about getting hit by a car than M$ bailing now. Also...you still have not responded to me being anti-Sony. Looking at my profile would help you, and its not set to private... :shock:

[QUOTE="CyanX73"]How is working with the best selling console ever stupid? That's called not abandoning people that bought your product. Something MS did to Xbox owners. Magical_Zebra

And look at how well its selling compared to the PS3... Good luck with that 10 year life span. :lol:

So you make a 10-year projection based on a few months of sales. You know a sheep when you see a sheep.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Ill keep this short and sweet. M$ intention with the Xbox was to secure a foothold in the market. M$ did not gain a single penny with the Xbox. It did however cause previous Xbox owners and others to purchase the 360 which appears to be selling well. Not as good as the Wii, but definately better than the PS3. It didnt send a bad message to me. M$ included a 10 gig hard drive and a powerful gpu in its orginal console. I looked forward to the next console and I wasnt dissappointed. :shock:

CyanX73

You shouldn't take a general statement and attempt to refute it with a particular instance. I could have guessed it didn't apply to you given your obvious support for 360. Selling much better than PS3? You are aware that PS3 is actually selling better, at this point in it's existence, better than 360? As far as gaining a single penny, Xbox just lost MS a large amount of money. Would you then be okay with MS bailing on 360 the way they did with the original Xbox if/when they launch their new console?

What was it, 6000 consoles up in a single week? Sony will never gain any ground at such a rate, not to mention it was a knee jerk reaction from consumers to the price drop.

As for 360's breaking, i'd rather be playing a console and risk it breaking than not be playing my console at all, period.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="CyanX73"]How is working with the best selling console ever stupid? That's called not abandoning people that bought your product. Something MS did to Xbox owners. azad_champ

And look at how well its selling compared to the PS3... Good luck with that 10 year life span. :lol:

So you make a 10-year projection based on a few months of sales. You know a sheep when you see a sheep.

I could say the same for when I see a cow, with a "pro cow" avatar. :shock:

[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Ill keep this short and sweet. M$ intention with the Xbox was to secure a foothold in the market. M$ did not gain a single penny with the Xbox. It did however cause previous Xbox owners and others to purchase the 360 which appears to be selling well. Not as good as the Wii, but definately better than the PS3. It didnt send a bad message to me. M$ included a 10 gig hard drive and a powerful gpu in its orginal console. I looked forward to the next console and I wasnt dissappointed. :shock:

KirbyFan10101

You shouldn't take a general statement and attempt to refute it with a particular instance. I could have guessed it didn't apply to you given your obvious support for 360. Selling much better than PS3? You are aware that PS3 is actually selling better, at this point in it's existence, better than 360? As far as gaining a single penny, Xbox just lost MS a large amount of money. Would you then be okay with MS bailing on 360 the way they did with the original Xbox if/when they launch their new console?

What was it, 6000 consoles up in a single week? Sony will never gain any ground at such a rate, not to mention it was a knee jerk reaction from consumers to the price drop.

As for 360's breaking, i'd rather be playing a console and risk it breaking than not be playing my console at all, period.

But you can always buy Blu Ray movies to help with "the wait". :shock:

[QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="CyanX73"]How is working with the best selling console ever stupid? That's called not abandoning people that bought your product. Something MS did to Xbox owners. Magical_Zebra

And look at how well its selling compared to the PS3... Good luck with that 10 year life span. :lol:

So you make a 10-year projection based on a few months of sales. You know a sheep when you see a sheep.

I could say the same for when I see a cow, with a "pro cow" avatar. :shock:

Yeah, but it wasn't me who played industry analyst by saying that PS3 failed only a few months after launch.

Sony is trying to grow the brand even more which is a smart move and they are making current ps2 owners very happy until they can get a ps3 to keep them from straying. Another very smart move imo. Sure they could have put Socom , Rougue Galaxy , and God of War II on the ps3 already to get some more sales but I am glad they have a different approach than the other companies. That puts Sony above the competition in my eyes.

I mean, Sony isn't giving their full effort to the PS3. They're still working with the PS2, which is stupid. Yes, it still sells consoles, but it's last gen and Sony is making their new console really bad to casuals. If they would have dropped the price by another $50 dollars and would have put God of War II on the PS3 instead, it would be doing better. That's why the Wii is doing better, the games are coming to the Wii, and 360 is doing a little better because it has good games coming out this year. I'm sick of Sony not trying very hard. The PS3 is really good, but come on Sony, try harder.DuDisNow

All the people that still only have PS2's will get a PS3 when they're ready. They will appreciate that Sony didn't pull the plug on them early like Microsoft did with Xbox support.

This coming from the person who basically said he is a Sony fanboy? But you tried to call me anti Sony and I posted a link to my blog entry in reference to my PSP (A Sony product) which you still havent replied to.

As far as the PS3 selling better then the 360 at this point in existence, do you have a link?

Be ok with them bailing now? Hell no I wouldnt. Its not feasible for them to bail now on the 360 when it looks slated for them to start turning a profit with the release of Halo 3. Not to mention the cost of R&D. I worry more about getting hit by a car than M$ bailing now. Also...you still have not responded to me being anti-Sony. Looking at my profile would help you, and its not set to private... :shock:

Magical_Zebra

Do you have to do that annoying thing were you put something in bold? That's actually worse than your :shock: face. Anyway, please show me a link where I basically say I'm a Sony fanboy.

link to my PS3 sales statement. Here's a link to Japan sales where it's 2 to 1.

Not feasible when they're going to turn a profit with Halo 3? Do you have a link to validate that? Something from an economist or anyone capable of analyzing a companies position because to say Halo is going to allow MS to make up almost 2 billion dollars in losses is absurb. I never said now though. I asked if you'd be okay with them bailing in the same manner they did with Xbox: when they're next console is launched. And congrats for having a PSP but that doesn't negate you flat out bashing PS3 every chance you get. Oh, I don't consider anyone a fanboy this or that because honestly I don't deem those peopel worth my time. I'm a gamer and I went to Sony to provide the best gaming experience and a reliable console. I'm assuming you bought a 360 for similiar reasons. If you are some fanboy, then I'll back out of this right now cuz it's not worth my time.

What was it, 6000 consoles up in a single week? Sony will never gain any ground at such a rate, not to mention it was a knee jerk reaction from consumers to the price drop.

As for 360's breaking, i'd rather be playing a console and risk it breaking than not be playing my console at all, period.

KirbyFan10101

What was it, a 60% sales plunge? Retailers selling out at a mere 100 dollar price cut? Retailers reporting failure rates at some 30%?

I think it's just the opposite. Sony still makes lots of high-quality consumer products, like televisions. The PS3 is just one of their relatively few flubs. Every company has one of those every so often (Virtual Boy anyone?).Number_1_Gamer

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]

What was it, 6000 consoles up in a single week? Sony will never gain any ground at such a rate, not to mention it was a knee jerk reaction from consumers to the price drop.

As for 360's breaking, i'd rather be playing a console and risk it breaking than not be playing my console at all, period.

CyanX73

What was it, a 60% sales plunge? Retailers selling out at a mere 100 dollar price cut? Retailers reporting failure rates at some 30%?

[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]

What was it, 6000 consoles up in a single week? Sony will never gain any ground at such a rate, not to mention it was a knee jerk reaction from consumers to the price drop.

As for 360's breaking, i'd rather be playing a console and risk it breaking than not be playing my console at all, period.

myke2010

What was it, a 60% sales plunge? Retailers selling out at a mere 100 dollar price cut? Retailers reporting failure rates at some 30%?

Shipped to stores = sales for the company (MS). Sony and MS have always counted sales as sales to stores, not final sales to customers. You can't go changing it now. And yes, their sales were down 60% from the year prior.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

This coming from the person who basically said he is a Sony fanboy? But you tried to call me anti Sony and I posted a link to my blog entry in reference to my PSP (A Sony product) which you still havent replied to.

As far as the PS3 selling better then the 360 at this point in existence, do you have a link?

Be ok with them bailing now? Hell no I wouldnt. Its not feasible for them to bail now on the 360 when it looks slated for them to start turning a profit with the release of Halo 3. Not to mention the cost of R&D. I worry more about getting hit by a car than M$ bailing now. Also...you still have not responded to me being anti-Sony. Looking at my profile would help you, and its not set to private... :shock:

CyanX73

Do you have to do that annoying thing were you put something in bold? That's actually worse than your :shock: face. Anyway, please show me a link where I basically say I'm a Sony fanboy.

link to my PS3 sales statement. Here's a link to Japan sales where it's 2 to 1.

Not feasible when they're going to turn a profit with Halo 3? Do you have a link to validate that? Something from an economist or anyone capable of analyzing a companies position because to say Halo is going to allow MS to make up almost 2 billion dollars in losses is absurb. I never said now though. I asked if you'd be okay with them bailing in the same manner they did with Xbox: when they're next console is launched. And congrats for having a PSP but that doesn't negate you flat out bashing PS3 every chance you get. Oh, I don't consider anyone a fanboy this or that because honestly I don't deem those peopel worth my time. I'm a gamer and I went to Sony to provide the best gaming experience and a reliable console. I'm assuming you bought a 360 for similiar reasons. If you are some fanboy, then I'll back out of this right now cuz it's not worth my time.

omg. i never said this in system wars and probably will never say it again. but i love you man. lol. that face he makes after every comment irks me to no end. thanks for owning him. something i just didnt have the will nor energy to do at this time.

once again nice ownage ( =

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are all equally bad in there own ways.

CyanX73

They're bad in their own ways but hardly equally bad.

Call me crazy, but if I had to say one of those problems was the worst of the three, I'd go with broken consoles. You buy a Wii knowing Nintendo doesn't get the 3rd party love, you buy a PS3 knowing it's expensive and there isn't a big slection of games right now, you buy a 360 expecting it to break? No. You know there's a problem but I doubt anyone buys it expecting it to fail on them. That sir, is the most serious problem of the three.

agreed. i dont expect a system i buy for 400 to break down on me. 3 year warranty is not an issue when i cant back the time i loose from calling, sending, and waiting to get back a system that will eventually break down on me again.

[QUOTE="DuDisNow"][QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="DuDisNow"]I think if Sony really tried, the PS3 would be doing better than the 360 right now.jack_russel

there not trying until they put 100% focus and effort into the ps3...apparently there is still some focus on the ps2

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]

What was it, 6000 consoles up in a single week? Sony will never gain any ground at such a rate, not to mention it was a knee jerk reaction from consumers to the price drop.

As for 360's breaking, i'd rather be playing a console and risk it breaking than not be playing my console at all, period.

Number_1_Gamer

What was it, a 60% sales plunge? Retailers selling out at a mere 100 dollar price cut? Retailers reporting failure rates at some 30%?

Shipped to stores = sales for the company (MS). Sony and MS have always counted sales as sales to stores, not final sales to customers. You can't go changing it now. And yes, their sales were down 60% from the year prior.

agreed. i dont expect a system i buy for 400 to break down on me. 3 year warranty is not an issue when i cant back the time i loose from calling, sending, and waiting to get back a system that will eventually break down on me again.

Kalias

Exactly my point.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

This coming from the person who basically said he is a Sony fanboy? But you tried to call me anti Sony and I posted a link to my blog entry in reference to my PSP (A Sony product) which you still havent replied to.

As far as the PS3 selling better then the 360 at this point in existence, do you have a link?

Be ok with them bailing now? Hell no I wouldnt. Its not feasible for them to bail now on the 360 when it looks slated for them to start turning a profit with the release of Halo 3. Not to mention the cost of R&D. I worry more about getting hit by a car than M$ bailing now. Also...you still have not responded to me being anti-Sony. Looking at my profile would help you, and its not set to private... :shock:

CyanX73

Do you have to do that annoying thing were you put something in bold?

Yes I do.

That's actually worse than your :shock: face.CyanX73

Anyway, please show me a link where I basically say I'm a Sony fanboy.CyanX73

link to my PS3 sales statement.CyanX73

Xbox 360 (1,384,000) PS3 (1,271,000)

Here's a link to Japan sales where it's 2 to 1.CyanX73

Not feasible when they're going to turn a profit with Halo 3? Do you have a link to validate that?CyanX73

Something from an economist or anyone capable of analyzing a companies position because to say Halo is going to allow MS to make up almost 2 billion dollars in losses is absurb. I never said now though.CyanX73

I asked if you'd be okay with them bailing in the same manner they did with Xbox: when they're next console is launched. And congrats for having a PSP but that doesn't negate you flat out bashing PS3 every chance you get.CyanX73

Oh, I don't consider anyone a fanboy this or that because honestly I don't deem those peopel worth my time. I'm a gamer and I went to Sony to provide the best gaming experience and a reliable console. I'm assuming you bought a 360 for similiar reasons. If you are some fanboy, then I'll back out of this right now cuz it's not worth my time. CyanX73

Touche.... :|

[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

This coming from the person who basically said he is a Sony fanboy? But you tried to call me anti Sony and I posted a link to my blog entry in reference to my PSP (A Sony product) which you still havent replied to.

As far as the PS3 selling better then the 360 at this point in existence, do you have a link?

Be ok with them bailing now? Hell no I wouldnt. Its not feasible for them to bail now on the 360 when it looks slated for them to start turning a profit with the release of Halo 3. Not to mention the cost of R&D. I worry more about getting hit by a car than M$ bailing now. Also...you still have not responded to me being anti-Sony. Looking at my profile would help you, and its not set to private... :shock:

Kalias

Do you have to do that annoying thing were you put something in bold? That's actually worse than your :shock: face. Anyway, please show me a link where I basically say I'm a Sony fanboy.

link to my PS3 sales statement. Here's a link to Japan sales where it's 2 to 1.

Not feasible when they're going to turn a profit with Halo 3? Do you have a link to validate that? Something from an economist or anyone capable of analyzing a companies position because to say Halo is going to allow MS to make up almost 2 billion dollars in losses is absurb. I never said now though. I asked if you'd be okay with them bailing in the same manner they did with Xbox: when they're next console is launched. And congrats for having a PSP but that doesn't negate you flat out bashing PS3 every chance you get. Oh, I don't consider anyone a fanboy this or that because honestly I don't deem those peopel worth my time. I'm a gamer and I went to Sony to provide the best gaming experience and a reliable console. I'm assuming you bought a 360 for similiar reasons. If you are some fanboy, then I'll back out of this right now cuz it's not worth my time.

omg. i never said this in system wars and probably will never say it again. but i love you man. lol. that face he makes after every comment irks me to no end. thanks for owning him. something i just didnt have the will nor energy to do at this time.

once again nice ownage ( =

Your ownage is in my reply to him.... :shock:

Zebra, you can use all the bold font you want but you still got owned :shock:. Now please reply with the usual :shock: face and bold font but it won't negate your ownage.

Hey everyone, MS's fiscal year just ended so that 2 billion dollar lost is water under the bridge. And 250 million is a dent in 2 billion? Sir, that's like tossing a cup of water on a burning building.

Zebra, you can use all the bold font you want but you still got owned :shock:. Now please reply with the usual :shock: face and bold font but it won't negate your ownage.

Hey everyone, MS's fiscal year just ended so that 2 billion dollar lost is water under the bridge. And 250 million is a dent in 2 billion? Sir, that's like tossing a cup of water on a burning building.

CyanX73

I never said they didnt take a billion dollar hit. Thats obvious. Fact of the matter remains, its reported for the 2007 fiscal year and not 08. It will still take more than 240 million dollars worth of game sales to even make back that billion dollar hit. So again, the ownage is where? :shock:

And again, are we forgetting Sony's recent billion dollar loss w/o the issuance of a warranty?