PS3 is not technically inferior to Xbox 360!

I'm talking about the technology in the systems btw.

I ran across a comment in the rumor control article about Dead Rising PS3 where someone said that PS3 wouldn't be able to handle that many objects on screen at once.

It maketh me kinda mad at people for spreading rumors and saying "PS3 is less powerful than Xbox 360" because its completely not true. Now, I know you're probably thinking "But you sony fanboys rub it in our face all the time!". Well I'm also mad when PS3 fanboys go "WELL TEH PS3 HAZ FOLDIN AT HOME WHICH CURES CANSER AND TEH PS3 PWNS CUZ IT GOT TWICE POWER OF 360", because that's not true either.

From what I've seen, with games Like Madden NFL 09, Call of Duty 4, and others, is that both consoles are nearly EXACTLY THE SAME. The only thing different is PS3's got Blu-ray but very few games have taken advantage of this, and they're usually exclusives anyway. But honestly, if you look at the spec sheets, neither console is inferior to the other.

So does anyone here agree or disagree? I'm open to opinion...

The xbox 360 is more powerful for gaming, I don't see how anyone can argue this. While the PS3 has more pure processing power, it doesn't help that much for gaming. The only thing that really determines performance in a video game is the graphics card, and the Xbox 360 has a much more powerful GPU than the PS3.bungie93

THe Cell if used right takes the load off the GPU card and distribute to the other smaller cells. But it is harder to do this, get the facts right. GPU is better but PS3's cell can pick up the work for the GPU to process.

PS3 is technically supperior to the 360.TheBestUserEver

And this is what gets me: GPU may be the #1 thing to worry about on standard PC-based architectures, but for the PS3 it isn't. The cell works in a way that can take a lot of GPU load and process it using the CPU (which does have 6 developer-accessible cores or "SPUs" btw), and that is how it makes up for it. Trust me, I write code for both fun and as a job, and I've looked through 40 pages of IBM Cell Processor Architecture PDF so I know what I speak of.

Your right...partially. Remember Sony hyped PS3 hyped as the better console, And at first it was putting out worse versions of games like The Orange Box, and all the games in the beginning plagued by slowdown.

Your right...partially. Remember Sony hyped PS3 hyped as the better console, And at first it was putting out worse versions of games like The Orange Box, and all the games in the beginning plagued by slowdown.

Right now I'm more worried about the fact that, if you own a PS3 and 360, there's not a single reason to buy the PS3 version to me...If it's this beast of a system that will change the world with Blue-Ray, why do I see nothing different besides game installs. 6 installs for one game, the PS4 will be a computer tower with a mouse and keyboard.Mau-Justice

This guy has hit the nail on the head. I own both and there is no real reason to buy games for the PS3 over the 360 atm. I still think the Ps3 has more potential but at present isn't showing it's superiority.

Your right...partially. Remember Sony hyped PS3 hyped as the better console, And at first it was putting out worse versions of games like The Orange Box, and all the games in the beginning plagued by slowdown.

Right now I'm more worried about the fact that, if you own a PS3 and 360, there's not a single reason to buy the PS3 version to me...If it's this beast of a system that will change the world with Blue-Ray, why do I see nothing different besides game installs. 6 installs for one game, the PS4 will be a computer tower with a mouse and keyboard.Mau-Justice

You blew the whole installation thing out of proportion.

Its not an issue at all.

And I dont know about you, but PS3 multiplats are starting to become superior to the 360's.

GTA IV and DMC4 prove so.

Installations improve the overall experience of the game.

By waiting for half an hour, you're able to improve the performance of the game for hours.

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Your right...partially. Remember Sony hyped PS3 hyped as the better console, And at first it was putting out worse versions of games like The Orange Box, and all the games in the beginning plagued by slowdown.

Right now I'm more worried about the fact that, if you own a PS3 and 360, there's not a single reason to buy the PS3 version to me...If it's this beast of a system that will change the world with Blue-Ray, why do I see nothing different besides game installs. 6 installs for one game, the PS4 will be a computer tower with a mouse and keyboard.readingfc_1

This guy has hit the nail on the head. I own both and there is no real reason to buy games for the PS3 over the 360 atm. I still think the Ps3 has more potential but at present isn't showing it's superiority.

I have both systems too, and I see it the opposite way. I see no reason to buy a multiplat on the 360 when I can get it for PS3 and play online for free. I really hate that ms charges to play online. It makes me feel like I only buy half a game, and need to spend the 50 dollar live fee to unlock the other half.

Sony just released how the cell can be used as GPU . This is very interesting, as it can do stuff the normal GPU cannot . This could result in graphical superiority very soon... zekere

If your talking about that "workflow" thread no they didnt. That has nothing to do with PS3 or games. Otherwise please provide a link.

Sony just released how the cell can be used as GPU . This is very interesting, as it can do stuff the normal GPU cannot . This could result in graphical superiority very soon... zekere

Nope.

[QUOTE="zekere"]Sony just released how the cell can be used as GPU . This is very interesting, as it can do stuff the normal GPU cannot . This could result in graphical superiority very soon... Yodas_Boy

Nope.

yep.

Personally I think the ps3 is technically superior to the 360.

Its all good and well saying "But teh multiplats are teh same" but thats becuase if a game looks better on one system that looks bad for the devs as they did not do a proper job.

Looking at the exclusives out and footage we have seen I think that the ps3 will come out with the best looking games. Heavy rain looks to be amazing for consoles. Also devs are saying that the ps3 is more powerfull.

This is just an opinion, but its an opinion shared by loads of epople who know what they are talking about.

[QUOTE="Yodas_Boy"]

[QUOTE="zekere"]Sony just released how the cell can be used as GPU . This is very interesting, as it can do stuff the normal GPU cannot . This could result in graphical superiority very soon... NinjaMunkey01

Nope.

yep.

Personally I think the ps3 is technically superior to the 360.

Its all good and well saying "But teh multiplats are teh same" but thats becuase if a game looks better on one system that looks bad for the devs as they did not do a proper job.

Looking at the exclusives out and footage we have seen I think that the ps3 will come out with the best looking games. Heavy rain looks to be amazing for consoles. Also devs are saying that the ps3 is more powerfull.

This is just an opinion, but its an opinion shared by loads of epople who know what they are talking about.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="Yodas_Boy"]

[QUOTE="zekere"]Sony just released how the cell can be used as GPU . This is very interesting, as it can do stuff the normal GPU cannot . This could result in graphical superiority very soon... MojondeVACA

Nope.

yep.

Personally I think the ps3 is technically superior to the 360.

Its all good and well saying "But teh multiplats are teh same" but thats becuase if a game looks better on one system that looks bad for the devs as they did not do a proper job.

Looking at the exclusives out and footage we have seen I think that the ps3 will come out with the best looking games. Heavy rain looks to be amazing for consoles. Also devs are saying that the ps3 is more powerfull.

This is just an opinion, but its an opinion shared by loads of epople who know what they are talking about.

I can only go by what I see and hear. And so far the ps3 looks to be the best. If the 360 looked to be the best i would say the 360 is best. But it does not.

I am not saying the ps3 is better out of some loyalty, its just my opinion from what I have seen.

Also, the red faction devs (multiplat devs) said the ps3 is potentialy more powerfull than the 360. In other words, when the devs learn how to optimise the cell, better games come out. Look at the other thread made about the ps3, it explains it quite well.

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="Yodas_Boy"]

[QUOTE="zekere"]Sony just released how the cell can be used as GPU . This is very interesting, as it can do stuff the normal GPU cannot . This could result in graphical superiority very soon... NinjaMunkey01

Nope.

yep.

Personally I think the ps3 is technically superior to the 360.

Its all good and well saying "But teh multiplats are teh same" but thats becuase if a game looks better on one system that looks bad for the devs as they did not do a proper job.

Looking at the exclusives out and footage we have seen I think that the ps3 will come out with the best looking games. Heavy rain looks to be amazing for consoles. Also devs are saying that the ps3 is more powerfull.

This is just an opinion, but its an opinion shared by loads of epople who know what they are talking about.

I can only go by what I see and hear. And so far the ps3 looks to be the best. If the 360 looked to be the best i would say the 360 is best. But it does not.

I am not saying the ps3 is better out of some loyalty, its just my opinion from what I have seen.

Also, the red faction devs (multiplat devs) said the ps3 is potentialy more powerfull than the 360. In other words, when the devs learn how to optimise the cell, better games come out. Look at the other thread made about the ps3, it explains it quite well.

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Your right...partially. Remember Sony hyped PS3 hyped as the better console, And at first it was putting out worse versions of games like The Orange Box, and all the games in the beginning plagued by slowdown.

Right now I'm more worried about the fact that, if you own a PS3 and 360, there's not a single reason to buy the PS3 version to me...If it's this beast of a system that will change the world with Blue-Ray, why do I see nothing different besides game installs. 6 installs for one game, the PS4 will be a computer tower with a mouse and keyboard.LagSwitch

You blew the whole installation thing out of proportion.

Its not an issue at all.

And I dont know about you, but PS3 multiplats are starting to become superior to the 360's.

GTA IV and DMC4 prove so.

2 games in a year does not a trend make

And by the way how exactly is the PS3 version of GTA superior?

EDIT: oh and by the way mandatory instalations are an issue for those of us who don't want to install games on consoles

And I dont know about you, but PS3 multiplats are starting to become superior to the 360's.

GTA IV and DMC4 prove so.

LagSwitch

The xbox 360 is more powerful for gaming, I don't see how anyone can argue this. While the PS3 has more pure processing power, it doesn't help that much for gaming. The only thing that really determines performance in a video game is the graphics card, and the Xbox 360 has a much more powerful GPU than the PS3.bungie93

Plus, the PS3 uses the Cell Processor, which has seemingly obscene computing capabilities. The Cell Processor is a big part of next generation gaming, and unfortunately for the Xbox 360, it doesn't have it.

Like many of the reasearchers that have experimented into the PS3 and the Xbox 360, and have been asked questons like "Which console performs better?" Many have said, Xbox 360 owners may have their opinions about the Xbox 360 being better in performance, but the PS3 is better, and we are with the FACTS!"

So there you go Xbox 360 owners, I'm with the facts, not the opinions.

The PS3 is the better performing system, it's a fact, and it's been known since the start of this generation.

P.S Developers are also now, developing for the PS3 first, then porting it down to the Xbox 360 with lower graphics and detail, not the other way around with the Xbox 360 version getting ported to the PS3 with the same graphics and details.

It is mind-boggling how people on this forum have actually bought into Sony's BS. No processor can make a watered-down 7800GTX perform better than the Xenos. bungie93

The CPU is more important than the GPU, so the PS3 wins in the fight between the CPU and GPU.Dion4ever

you have a link for that chief?

Plus, the PS3 uses the Cell Processor, which has seemingly obscene computing capabilities. The Cell Processor is a big part of next generation gaming, and unfortunately for the Xbox 360, it doesn't have it.Dion4ever

and yet so far it has done nothing

Like many of the reasearchers that have experimented into the PS3 and the Xbox 360, and have been asked questons like "Which console performs better?" Many have said, Xbox 360 owners may have their opinions about the Xbox 360 being better in performance, but the PS3 is better, and we are with the FACTS!"Dion4ever

and yet once again the PS3 has given us nothing noticeable

The PS3 is the better performing system, it's a fact, and it's been known since the start of this generation. Dion4ever

in what way? and link please

P.S Developers are also now, developing for the PS3 first, then porting it down to the Xbox 360 with lower graphics and detail, not the other way around with the Xbox 360 version getting ported to the PS3 with the same graphics and details.

Dion4ever

nope

personally i really don't see the point in comparing the 369 and the PS3's graphics, heck i can go out right now and buy a GPU twice as powerfull as the 360's for 300 bucks so what's the point in comparing graphics between the consoles? not to mention they are both so close, if you put two games for both consoles together chances are you won't know which is which

[QUOTE="bungie93"]The xbox 360 is more powerful for gaming, I don't see how anyone can argue this. While the PS3 has more pure processing power, it doesn't help that much for gaming. The only thing that really determines performance in a video game is the graphics card, and the Xbox 360 has a much more powerful GPU than the PS3.Dion4ever

Plus, the PS3 uses the Cell Processor, which has seemingly obscene computing capabilities. The Cell Processor is a big part of next generation gaming, and unfortunately for the Xbox 360, it doesn't have it.

Like many of the reasearchers that have experimented into the PS3 and the Xbox 360, and have been asked questons like "Which console performs better?" Many have said, Xbox 360 owners may have their opinions about the Xbox 360 being better in performance, but the PS3 is better, and we are with the FACTS!"

So there you go Xbox 360 owners, I'm with the facts, not the opinions.

The PS3 is the better performing system, it's a fact, and it's been known since the start of this generation.

P.S Developers are also now, developing for the PS3 first, then porting it down to the Xbox 360 with lower graphics and detail, not the other way around with the Xbox 360 version getting ported to the PS3 with the same graphics and details.

[QUOTE="bungie93"]The xbox 360 is more powerful for gaming, I don't see how anyone can argue this. While the PS3 has more pure processing power, it doesn't help that much for gaming. The only thing that really determines performance in a video game is the graphics card, and the Xbox 360 has a much more powerful GPU than the PS3.Dion4ever

Plus, the PS3 uses the Cell Processor, which has seemingly obscene computing capabilities. The Cell Processor is a big part of next generation gaming, and unfortunately for the Xbox 360, it doesn't have it.

Like many of the reasearchers that have experimented into the PS3 and the Xbox 360, and have been asked questons like "Which console performs better?" Many have said, Xbox 360 owners may have their opinions about the Xbox 360 being better in performance, but the PS3 is better, and we are with the FACTS!"

So there you go Xbox 360 owners, I'm with the facts, not the opinions.

The PS3 is the better performing system, it's a fact, and it's been known since the start of this generation.

P.S Developers are also now, developing for the PS3 first, then porting it down to the Xbox 360 with lower graphics and detail, not the other way around with the Xbox 360 version getting ported to the PS3 with the same graphics and details.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I can only go by what I see and hear. And so far the ps3 looks to be the best. If the 360 looked to be the best i would say the 360 is best. But it does not.

I am not saying the ps3 is better out of some loyalty, its just my opinion from what I have seen.

Also, the red faction devs (multiplat devs) said the ps3 is potentialy more powerfull than the 360. In other words, when the devs learn how to optimise the cell, better games come out. Look at the other thread made about the ps3, it explains it quite well.

MojondeVACA

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]

Your right...partially. Remember Sony hyped PS3 hyped as the better console, And at first it was putting out worse versions of games like The Orange Box, and all the games in the beginning plagued by slowdown.

Right now I'm more worried about the fact that, if you own a PS3 and 360, there's not a single reason to buy the PS3 version to me...If it's this beast of a system that will change the world with Blue-Ray, why do I see nothing different besides game installs. 6 installs for one game, the PS4 will be a computer tower with a mouse and keyboard.LagSwitch

You blew the whole installation thing out of proportion.

Its not an issue at all.

And I dont know about you, but PS3 multiplats are starting to become superior to the 360's.

GTA IV and DMC4 prove so.

Installations improve the overall experience of the game.

By waiting for half an hour, you're able to improve the performance of the game for hours.

Most places. GS included think GTA is better on Xbox ...

Also, im sure in the comparisons we did, we found DMC to look slightly better (fanboy goggles at the ready)

Installations dont bother me (they did on MGS) but they dont imprve load time THAT much, especially as the xbox is getting the same feature.

The only multiplat that was superior, was Burnout, (and i dont see how)

The Specs/ Power and stuff don't really mattter to me.

As long as I enjoy the game, I have no problem with anything.

they both have games that look as good as the amount of effort devs put into them.

obviously, ps3 can make a technically better looking game than the 360. however, devs won't be able to take advantage of this for a while because the cell is uncharted territory.

if you don't understand, let me explain. xbox 360 uses an architecture that is very similar to a pc. thus, all the techniques that devs use to program on pc's can be simply transferred.

let me put it this way. if there were two civilizations started on two seperate planets; but one planet had the remains of an earlier nuclear-age civilization on it, which civilization do you think would reach their respective moons quicker?

Most places. GS included think GTA is better on Xbox ...

Also, im sure in the comparisons we did, we found DMC to look slightly better (fanboy goggles at the ready)

Installations dont bother me (they did on MGS) but they dont imprve load time THAT much, especially as the xbox is getting the same feature.

The only multiplat that was superior, was Burnout, (and i dont see how)

ukillwegrill

they both have games that look as good as the amount of effort devs put into them.

obviously, ps3 can make a technically better looking game than the 360. however, devs won't be able to take advantage of this for a while because the cell is uncharted territory.

if you don't understand, let me explain. xbox 360 uses an architecture that is very similar to a pc. thus, all the techniques that devs use to program on pc's can be simply transferred.

let me put it this way. if there were two civilizations started on two seperate planets; but one planet had the remains of an earlier nuclear-age civilization on it, which civilization do you think would reach their respective moons quicker?

mistervengeance

360 Advantages:

Normal CPU, easiser to develop for.

50MB more RAM

Shared RAM lets Devs give the CPU or GPU as much RAM as they need, meaning possible increase in performance.

GPU is slightly more powerful than Ps3's.

Ps3 advantages:

Faster RAM

Cell more powerful than 360's CPU

Cell can help out in GFZ with EDGE development tools.

Blu-Raymeans more space for dvs.