PS3 is still losing to 360 people

I recently checked out a thread where some guy was bragging about how much the PS3 was owning the 360 in sales on a global scale, when in fact the PS3 was beating the 360 by maybe 10,000 units this week. I'm sorry but considering that the PS3 is still behind the 360 substantially(especially here in NA)the PS3 or its fanboys have nothing to brag about. Even if the PS3 sells 10,000,000 units this year and 360 only sells 7,000,000 the 360 will still be ahead by several million units.It has a lot of ground to gain before it can come close to closing the gap. I think that even after 2008 is done with, the PS3 will still be trailing the 360 in international sales.

It will be a close race at the end, but you PS3 gys out there have really very little to celebrate right now.

^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)skirlnik

It all comes down to sales my friend, that is how the winners of every gen have been decided. If the people are buying you must be doing something right.

I recently checked out a thread where some guy was bragging about how much the PS3 was owning the 360 in sales on a global scale, when in fact the PS3 was beating the 360 by maybe 10,000 units this week. I'm sorry but considering that the PS3 is still behind the 360 substantially(especially here in NA)the PS3 or its fanboys have nothing to brag about. Even if the PS3 sells 10,000,000 units this year and 360 only sells 7,000,000 the 360 will still be ahead by several million units.It has a lot of ground to gain before it can come close to closing the gap. I think that even after 2008 is done with, the PS3 will still be trailing the 360 in international sales.

It will be a close race at the end, but you PS3 gys out there have really very little to celebrate right now.

Shenmue_Jehuty

How many 360s will have died in the process?

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I recently checked out a thread where some guy was bragging about how much the PS3 was owning the 360 in sales on a global scale, when in fact the PS3 was beating the 360 by maybe 10,000 units this week. I'm sorry but considering that the PS3 is still behind the 360 substantially(especially here in NA)the PS3 or its fanboys have nothing to brag about. Even if the PS3 sells 10,000,000 units this year and 360 only sells 7,000,000 the 360 will still be ahead by several million units.It has a lot of ground to gain before it can come close to closing the gap. I think that even after 2008 is done with, the PS3 will still be trailing the 360 in international sales.

It will be a close race at the end, but you PS3 gys out there have really very little to celebrate right now.

megaton3k

MGS4/thread

This game will boost PS3 sales but not like you and other PS3 fans believe. It may contribute to 2,000,000 or so units sold internationally but it isn't going to be PS3s salvation. It will take many games as good or better then MGS4 to save the PS3. This years lineup is impressive but it I believe it wont be enough to surpass 360 come 2009.

[QUOTE="skirlnik"]^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)Shenmue_Jehuty

It all comes down to sales my friend, that is how the winners of every gen have been decided. If the people are buying you must be doing something right.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

[QUOTE="skirlnik"]^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)ermacness

It all comes down to sales my friend, that is how the winners of every gen have been decided. If the people are buying you must be doing something right.

I mentioned NA on a side note, the post addresses WORLDWIDE sales and WORLDWIDE the PS3 is has only about 60% of the overall sales of the 360. The 360 is bombing in Japan but in Europe PS3 is barely ahead.

I recently checked out a thread where some guy was bragging about how much the PS3 was owning the 360 in sales on a global scale, when in fact the PS3 was beating the 360 by maybe 10,000 units this week. I'm sorry but considering that the PS3 is still behind the 360 substantially(especially here in NA)the PS3 or its fanboys have nothing to brag about. Even if the PS3 sells 10,000,000 units this year and 360 only sells 7,000,000 the 360 will still be ahead by several million units.It has a lot of ground to gain before it can come close to closing the gap. I think that even after 2008 is done with, the PS3 will still be trailing the 360 in international sales.

It will be a close race at the end, but you PS3 gys out there have really very little to celebrate right now.

Shenmue_Jehuty

how is the ps3 losing to the 360 when every week the ps3 outsell it every week worldwidejust face fact the 360 is a fad the wii and ps3 will sell way beyond the 360 the 360 just have way to many hardware problem's in people are afraid to buy the console.sherlock99

Vgchartz.......

360 has better games than both

The ps3 will eventually pass it but i dont see that happening till 09 or 10

Well i cant disagree with the hardware but i would they be afraid when they have a 3 year warranty

but i would they be afraid when they have a 3 year warranty

battalionwars13

That 3 year warranty only covers the RROD, which is fair enough, but working in a game store you get to see just as many problems with hard drives and disk drives failing on the 360. If either of them go after 12 months then forget it.

^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)skirlnik

:lol:

I think theres a big mass of ppl that waiting the right timing to buy a PS3 (Im one of them).

Most of them are europeans and japanese. Some waiting MGS4 others FF13,others even a price drop or better games overall.That doesnt mean that these ppl wont buy PS3 or will go to 360 instead. And beleive me there are many ppl out there that waiting to buy PS3.

X360 is strong in US and will remain strong. But if PS3 surpass even by 1 unit per week 360 in US that means PS3 its in a good way.Not necessarily that will surpass X360 in 08 but that proves that PS3 wont end dead or a sure third in this generation

I think theres a big mass of ppl that waiting the right timing to buy a PS3 (Im one of them).

Most of them are europeans and japanese. Some waiting MGS4 others FF13,others even a price drop or better games overall.That doesnt mean that these ppl wont buy PS3 or will go to 360 instead. And beleive me there are many ppl out there that waiting to buy PS3.

X360 is strong in US and will remain strong. But if PS3 surpass even by 1 unit per week 360 in US that means PS3 its in a good way.Not necessarily that will surpass X360 in 08 but that proves that PS3 wont end dead or a sure third in this generation

AzatiS

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Lemming(I own a 360 and Wii, and want a PS3 when the price drops to $300). I think that this system(the PS3) had a bumpy start but it is gaining lost ground. I just hate it when PS3 fanboys get on here and act like the PS3 has won the war already just because it beat the 360 in sales for several weeks. I current;y like my 360 better then the PS3 but I think the PS3 has lots of future potential hence why I'm willing to buy one when the price is right.

And yes 360 has very strong potential so the PS3s third place finish is a likely possibility, but we'll just have to wait and see.

The reality is that none of the current generation consoles have really "sold me". The Xbox 360 has faulty hardware and provides a "same-ish" gaming experience to what I've already been doing for twenty years. The PS3 is all potential with little "show" - LBP, Home, FF XIII, MGS4 - all great ideas, but until I can play them, there's no reason to own the black box.

The Wii is coming the closest, of any console, to reaching that "critical mass" where there's a real incentive to buy it. Twilight Princess, SMG, and Brawl are big contenders for a "buy me" - but even it is missing the critical Animal Crossing 3, Star Fox, and Kirby titles I need to see for it to be a winner.

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Ultiamtely, all of the current consoles feel incomplete - 360 is missing Too Human, PS3 is missing well, quite a bit, and Wii needs Brawl and Animal Crossing. Until these games drop, it's hard to really "vouche" for any of them.

[QUOTE="skirlnik"]^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)Shenmue_Jehuty

It all comes down to sales my friend, that is how the winners of every gen have been decided. If the people are buying you must be doing something right.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I recently checked out a thread where some guy was bragging about how much the PS3 was owning the 360 in sales on a global scale, when in fact the PS3 was beating the 360 by maybe 10,000 units this week. I'm sorry but considering that the PS3 is still behind the 360 substantially(especially here in NA)the PS3 or its fanboys have nothing to brag about. Even if the PS3 sells 10,000,000 units this year and 360 only sells 7,000,000 the 360 will still be ahead by several million units.It has a lot of ground to gain before it can come close to closing the gap. I think that even after 2008 is done with, the PS3 will still be trailing the 360 in international sales.

It will be a close race at the end, but you PS3 gys out there have really very little to celebrate right now.

gamenux

How many 360s will have died in the process?

how many PS2:s died in the process?

just saying that, if PS2 sold so well, it could've been because alot of them died and you had to fix a new one or buy a new one.

That's what happens to hardware especially from a company who's on they're second console. Like Sony was when PS2 had it's flaws.

Does that mean it produced crappy games? or maybe it is a crappy hardware? no, it's a good hardware with good games but with some flaws. get over it.

You know why the 360 is unreliable? Because it's American made. Same thing goes with American cars. Pure "junk" if you ask me.

Did you just say the ps3 is barely outselling the 360 in Europe. You realise on its release week 23-30th of march last year they sold over 700,000 ps3 units.

And the ps3 and x-box life time sales in Europe are very close. I even have a link for the French information

http://www.ripten.com/2008/01/15/ps3-sells-three-times-more-than-xbox-360-in-france/

There are more ps3s in Europe than there are America. Do not underestimate Europe in this console war.

skirlnik wrote:^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)

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I know! It's always funny to me how people don't understand this!

You know why the 360 is unreliable? Because it's American made. Same thing goes with American cars. Pure "junk" if you ask me.

mengo816

This is WAY off topic, but over the last 5 years American cars are MUCH more reliable than anything out of Europe. They've caught up to the majority of Aisian cars too. I'm guessing honda and Toyota are still probably most reliable, but not by much. 15 years ago I would have agreed with you.

You know why the 360 is unreliable? Because it's American made. Same thing goes with American cars. Pure "junk" if you ask me.

mengo816

With the 360's current lead of nearly 7 million systems over the PS3, do cows truly realise how much more per week the PS3 would have to sell to be able to overtake the 360 this year? I mean really, take off your fanboy goggles and use some common sense and math. What games are suddenly going to spur that type of international growth? The PS3 has some real heavy hitters this year with their price drop. LBP, MGS, KZ2, FF, Resistance 2, and Home. But none of those will start the PS3 to outselling the 360 by hundreds of thousands per month. And that, my dear cows, is what would have to happen in order for the PS3 to leap frog the 360 in a year. The PS3 isn't the Wii. Different appeal and audience.

Then to make matters worse, do cows think that Bungie just sort of, I don't know, went out of buisness? Do you truly think with nearly seven million Halo 3 sales that in a year or so we won't here word of a Halo 4? Newsflash, this businss is all about money. 9 times out of ten a great selling game will eventually see a sequel. So expect Halo 4 in 2009 not because of an announcement I heard, but just common sense. Oh, and When Gears of War 2 hits, whenever it hits, that game is a killer app in every way. Mass Effect 2 is coming as well, you know. So is Banjo, Ninja Gaiden, Fable 2, another Forza probably in 2009, tons of multiplats and NEWSFLASH, there will be a 360 pricecut sometime this year too. Its not only the PS3 that can lower its price. Add into that tons and tons of multiplats, including GT4 exclusive content, other new original IP's and whatever other suprises MS has in store and its just a long, hard road for the PS3 ahead.

All in all look for the PS3 to close in on the 360 to within I woukld say 3 million, but overtake it in 2008. That's wishfull, fanboy wet dreams. Its just not going to happen. Especially now with the 360's ravaging of the PS3 in the states almost offsetting any sort of advantage PS3 has internationally.

To end things, even if in 2009 sometime the PS3 was to overtake the 360, hypthetically, mind you, they went from nearly 80% of the maket share last gen to probably 30%. And they are deep, deep in debt over the PS3 thus far. Unlike MS right now, they aren't making a profit. It might take a long time for MS to be in the black, but at least a profit is being made now toward it.

how is the ps3 losing to the 360 when every week the ps3 outsell it every week worldwidejust face fact the 360 is a fad the wii and ps3 will sell way beyond the 360 the 360 just have way to many hardware problem's in people are afraid to buy the console.sherlock99

Every week? Link? At most its been the last 3 or 4 weeks since Christmas. Any bets xbox360 outsells PS3 worldwide in February?

I don't get why people think console sales are so important anyways. Getting a big install base only serves one purpose. More people to sell games too. Why don't we just look at game sales then and skip the extra step. Game sales is how the console companies make money (from licensing), how 3rd party developers stay in business, and how us gamers have fun. Software sales are much more important the console sales in my opinion.

Dude, you bash his no proof with your no proof. Its weak. Both of you.

360 is most definitely not leading by much world-wide (my guess).

Heres an even better link but its data is quite old (Around 4 months) about how much better the ps3 is doing in Europe compared to the x-box.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/big-in-europe-p.html

[QUOTE="skirlnik"]^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)Kaosed

:lol:

LMFAO

Heres an even better link but its data is quite old (Around 4 months) about how much better the ps3 is doing in Europe compared to the x-box.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/01/big-in-europe-p.html

muff07

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php. Yes, I know its VG chartz, but their historical data is actually very accurate. The only part to take with a grain of salt is the December - January numbers as they probably haven't been fully updated yet.

PS3 and xbox360 trends are nearly identical. I'm not trying to say xbox360 is selling better, I'm just saying there is absolutely no trend present that would lead me to believe PS3 has ANY chance whatsoever of catching xbox by the end of the year. Its not even remotely possible. I highly doubt it will catch it this gen (2011), butI suppposelot can happen over the next few years. This year though? No way.

[QUOTE="skirlnik"]^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)Kaosed

:lol:

I feel sorry for those who think the PS3 doesn't have good games, your fanboyism is just getting in the way of that.

^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff.skirlnik

Good games ? Don't you mean good game ? :roll:

I recently checked out a thread where some guy was bragging about how much the PS3 was owning the 360 in sales on a global scale, when in fact the PS3 was beating the 360 by maybe 10,000 units this week. I'm sorry but considering that the PS3 is still behind the 360 substantially(especially here in NA)the PS3 or its fanboys have nothing to brag about. Even if the PS3 sells 10,000,000 units this year and 360 only sells 7,000,000 the 360 will still be ahead by several million units.It has a lot of ground to gain before it can come close to closing the gap. I think that even after 2008 is done with, the PS3 will still be trailing the 360 in international sales.

It will be a close race at the end, but you PS3 gys out there have really very little to celebrate right now.

Shenmue_Jehuty

You do realize that in a year when the 360 saw a slight price drop and ALL of the heaviest hitters and most anticipated games come out...their sales actually DECREASED by 18% right? If MS couldn't improve sales in 2007 with all they were offering, what is it going to take?

This is a very serious question. Meanwhile Sony FINALLY has some of its heavy hitters coming out along with some MAJOR multiplats which mean it will finally have a strong library building up and it will only get stronger. Not to mention that BR has basically won the format wars which makes the PS3 a very viable BR player for many people.

Anybody willing to only buy one console and not the other is missing out and only hurting themselves.

^ Not everyone has the time to play multi-consoles, I barely have time to play 360 myself.

I could care less about the system winner, as long as I remain getting good games on my 360 Im happy.

If MS couldn't improve sales in 2007 with all they were offering, what is it going to take?

ZIMdoom

I don't know if it would be enough, but a decent price drop and the elimination of the RROD come to mind.

[QUOTE="skirlnik"]^^ except good games, free online, and a constantly evolving system. And other stuff. Not that I'm trying to brag. Bragging about your console of choice's sales is pretty sad. This post brought to you via PS3 ;-)Shenmue_Jehuty

It all comes down to sales my friend, that is how the winners of every gen have been decided. If the people are buying you must be doing something right.

I really don't think you have that much to be bragging about son..

MS doesnt actually have THAT many more consoles shipped, when you take into account MS had almost a 2 year lead..

360 is beating ps3 in NA, australia and europe, yes more people have 360's in europe than ps3(proof below) and anyone who was going to buy a ps3 because of mgs 4 would of done do by now and it should of been out by know anyway. Or if anyone was even just thinking of buying a ps3 by know they would've done it because of the price cuts and christmas.

sales proof:europe=http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Europe&cons2=PS3®2=Europe&cons3=X360®3=Europe&start=39040&end=39439&weekly=1

and the most important country in there, UK=http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=UK&cons2=PS3®2=UK&cons3=X360®3=UK&start=39040&end=39439&weekly=1

see, 360s only just behind wii there

austraila proof=http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Australia&cons2=PS3®2=Australia&cons3=X360®3=Australia&start=39040&end=39439&weekly=1

there 360s beating the wii

we all kinow 360 is beating ps3 heavily in NA, likewise we all know ps3's beatin 360 heavily in japan but its the only place in the world apart from spain and france which are minor markets that ps3 is beating 360

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

I recently checked out a thread where some guy was bragging about how much the PS3 was owning the 360 in sales on a global scale, when in fact the PS3 was beating the 360 by maybe 10,000 units this week. I'm sorry but considering that the PS3 is still behind the 360 substantially(especially here in NA)the PS3 or its fanboys have nothing to brag about. Even if the PS3 sells 10,000,000 units this year and 360 only sells 7,000,000 the 360 will still be ahead by several million units.It has a lot of ground to gain before it can come close to closing the gap. I think that even after 2008 is done with, the PS3 will still be trailing the 360 in international sales.

It will be a close race at the end, but you PS3 gys out there have really very little to celebrate right now.

ZIMdoom

You do realize that in a year when the 360 saw a slight price drop and ALL of the heaviest hitters and most anticipated games come out...their sales actually DECREASED by 18% right? If MS couldn't improve sales in 2007 with all they were offering, what is it going to take?

This is a very serious question. Meanwhile Sony FINALLY has some of its heavy hitters coming out along with some MAJOR multiplats which mean it will finally have a strong library building up and it will only get stronger. Not to mention that BR has basically won the format wars which makes the PS3 a very viable BR player for many people.

One thing that Sony Fans don't take into consideration often is that think the 360 will be stagnant while the PS3 will just continue to grow in sales. No, the 360's sales will continue to grow as will the PS3's. I believe the PS3 will see more growth then the 360 this year but even that growth wont allow it to surpass the 360 anytime soon. Not only that but I'm sure the financial guys at MS are fully aware of the PS3's knockout lineup this year and plan on releasing some stellar, many unannounced, games this year that will give the PS3 a run for its money. For these reasons the PS3 is going to have to work much harder to even come close to closing the international sales gap that currently exists.

@ angelkimne

You realise those two European countries life time to date sales(from march 23rd) are a quarter of the NA numbers?

At what point are they small markets. Australia is a small market selling only around 3-4k units a week but they all add up, every single console adds up.

Anyone thinking diffrently isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

And in your rant about only Spain and France you forgot Denmark,Holland,Germany,Italy,Norway and Finland Right there all those countries added together is around 70% of the total NA sales. In those countries the x-box is being beat 3-1 or even 4-1 (with the Wii winning athlough its being beat around 3:2 in Spain by the ps3).

I fail to see how thats a small market.

No matter what anyone says 2nd place in this console war is up for grabs and it looks like its going to be close.

Snce you used VgChartz to back up your claim I'm going to fight back with VgCharts numbers.

http://vgchartz.com/ehweekly.php

Your saying that 2 thousand unit diffrence in units in the Uk is more substancal than Spains 10k more units in favour of the ps3 and a 600 unit diffrence in Australia is going to win the war for the x-box?

Those 600 a week will help but I don't think you should go around claiming the x-box is tanking the ps3 in Europe because thats a lie.

the sales have increased for the ps3 due to the main fact that their have been like 4 diffrent price drops. Microsoft still hasent dropped its price except the pathetic 50 dollars. But sales will increase once microsoft drops its price to like 250 for the premuim and games like gta4 comes outParadiddleFill

So dropping from $499/$599 to $399/$499 = 4 different price drops...and dropping $50 = "still hasn't dropped its price".

I'm begining to think there is no such thing as fanboy goggles anymore. They've been assimilated and are now just people's normal eyes.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the sales have increased for the ps3 due to the main fact that their have been like 4 diffrent price drops. Microsoft still hasent dropped its price except the pathetic 50 dollars. But sales will increase once microsoft drops its price to like 250 for the premuim and games like gta4 comes outZIMdoom

So dropping from $499/$599 to $399/$499 = 4 different price drops...and dropping $50 = "still hasn't dropped its price".

I'm begining to think there is no such thing as fanboy goggles anymore. They've been assimilated and are now just people's normal eyes.

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