PS3 is the most well rounded machine

its simple. brag about exclusives all you want, unless youre an absolute hater you must admit the ps3 has good and great games, exclusive or not (i'l mention them if you want). plus it comes with blu-ray, large space which makes for good media storage and a web browser as a nice little bonus. so the equation is:

quality game console+great movie player+decent media player with good storage+web browser=great all round machine

response????

Yes, but it's so damn expensive :PNWA_31

yeah, il admit before it was but with the cut arent you tempted

I don't like the PS3 very much, but this is undoubtably true. DivergeUnify

then go ahead and buy one :D

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]Yes, but it's so damn expensive :Psixpmgamer

yeah, il admit before it was but with the cut arent you tempted

Not at all..........I already got one ;)

[QUOTE="sixpmgamer"]

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]Yes, but it's so damn expensive :PNWA_31

yeah, il admit before it was but with the cut arent you tempted

Not at all..........I already got one ;)

Me 2, here in europe i got 60gb one with price drop, i expect it to be No1 here in christmas sales

• Sony
• a second-party developer under Sony's payroll (e.g. Polyphony Digital)
• Have a significant vested interest in the PS3's success
• Your game is only going to ever be in Japan, because they have irrational hate for anything not made from there (like the Xbox 360)

Its not a quality game inless it has good games.. Which its lacking severely.. As it stands the PC edges out every thing you have stated right there..

Not to mention the Xbox360 pretty much outdoes or matchs everything you have stated.. The only thing it lacks is a internet browser which could change in the future.. The Pc and Xbox360 also has superior online service..

its simple. brag about exclusives all you want, unless youre an absolute hater you must admit the ps3 has good and great games, exclusive or not (i'l mention them if you want). plus it comes with blu-ray, large space which makes for good media storage and a web browser as a nice little bonus. so the equation is:

quality game console+great movie player+decent media player with good storage+web browser=great all round machine

response????

sixpmgamer

yea, if your talking about how the console itself looks. it doesn't really matter at ps3's point how much crap you can shove in a box when it's not selling

Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays games

Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesEltroz

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesblitzcloud

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

PS2 only has 2 games that sold over 1 million+ copies and niether are 3rd party

360 has 30 titles that have sold over 1 million + many 3rd party games.

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesEltroz

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

As he said how does this help when 360 can't even do it's sole purpose, PLAY GAMES with RROD, at least with ps3 we get to play our games and blu ray and play online lag free for FREE. I still don't know 1 360 game to have 40 players online like resistance with no lag and it's free, if there is one correct me

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesPaddy345

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

As he said how does this help when 360 can't even do it's sole purpose, PLAY GAMES with RROD, at least with ps3 we get to play our games and blu ray and play online lag free for FREE. I still don't know 1 360 game to have 40 players online like resistance with no lag and it's free, if there is one correct me

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesPaddy345

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

As he said how does this help when 360 can't even do it's sole purpose, PLAY GAMES with RROD, at least with ps3 we get to play our games and blu ray and play online lag free for FREE. I still don't know 1 360 game to have 40 players online like resistance with no lag and it's free, if there is one correct me

I know your responding to a fanboy and your inner fanboy is coming out because of itbut i'm simply going to correct you anyway.

1. Not all 360's get the RROD. Retailers have it estimated at around 25% which is far from all. So, until the numbers read that 100% of 360's have busted, you have no case there. Not only did i play Mass Effect for literally 8 hours straight yesterday but i've done that with quite a few games before...and mine is a launch console with zero problems.

2. XBL is lagfree with the exception of TF2. Which it seems Valve really screwed up with the coding for some reason...but the update fixed it for the most part and Lag isn't seen near as often in TF2. Other then that, XBL is just as lag free as any PSN game...and even more so in cases i'm betting. And this is only with P2P connections. Imagine dedicated servers...:shock:

3. Bluray? Ok, well you got that. Most people are justifying a PS3 purchase and have been for a longtime due to that so i'll give you that one. But movies are just as playable on the 360. :)

4. As for the XBL fee...i'm not going to argue with someone about $50 when they probably themselves spent $600 on a console. It's hypocritical on their part...sorry. Unless these people got the PS3 at the price drop then their in this hypocritical situation.

5. Very few games have the map capacity for 40 players. Perfect Dark Zero was 32 players online and that was P2P with zero lag. You can bet that, if every game was dedicated servers (No, PSN titles aren't all dedicated...just the few big ones) that 40 would easily be possible in any title. Problem is that most games don't allow for that many.

So, no, you're wrong. :)

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesPaddy345

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

As he said how does this help when 360 can't even do it's sole purpose, PLAY GAMES with RROD, at least with ps3 we get to play our games and blu ray and play online lag free for FREE. I still don't know 1 360 game to have 40 players online like resistance with no lag and it's free, if there is one correct me

I've never had the RROD, never even so much a single freeze, so don't generalize. 40 players online with no lag for free... that and a $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks... oh wait, no it won't. Free online and lag free is cold comfort if what you're playing for free is mediocre.

Yes, but it's so damn expensive :PNWA_31

Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays games

Eltroz

A simple advice - MOVE ON!!

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesPaddy345

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

As he said how does this help when 360 can't even do it's sole purpose, PLAY GAMES with RROD, at least with ps3 we get to play our games and blu ray and play online lag free for FREE. I still don't know 1 360 game to have 40 players online like resistance with no lag and it's free, if there is one correct me

This is stereotypingnot every ones Xbox360 has broken.. Its a logical fallacy..

I just find it rediculous that you guys are trying to say the PS3 is the best of sorts when it has arguably the worse library out there..

[QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesPuckhog04

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

As he said how does this help when 360 can't even do it's sole purpose, PLAY GAMES with RROD, at least with ps3 we get to play our games and blu ray and play online lag free for FREE. I still don't know 1 360 game to have 40 players online like resistance with no lag and it's free, if there is one correct me

I know your responding to a fanboy and your inner fanboy is coming out because of itbut i'm simply going to correct you anyway.

1. Not all 360's get the RROD. Retailers have it estimated at around 25% which is far from all. So, until the numbers read that 100% of 360's have busted, you have no case there. Not only did i play Mass Effect for literally 8 hours straight yesterday but i've done that with quite a few games before...and mine is a launch console with zero problems.

2. XBL is lagfree with the exception of TF2. Which it seems Valve really screwed up with the coding for some reason...but the update fixed it for the most part and Lag isn't seen near as often in TF2. Other then that, XBL is just as lag free as any PSN game...and even more so in cases i'm betting. And this is only with P2P connections. Imagine dedicated servers...:shock:

3. Bluray? Ok, well you got that. Most people are justifying a PS3 purchase and have been for a longtime due to that so i'll give you that one. But movies are just as playable on the 360. :)

4. As for the XBL fee...i'm not going to argue with someone about $50 when they probably themselves spent $600 on a console. It's hypocritical on their part...sorry. Unless these people got the PS3 at the price drop then their in this hypocritical situation.

5. Very few games have the map capacity for 40 players. Perfect Dark Zero was 32 players online and that was P2P with zero lag. You can bet that, if every game was dedicated servers (No, PSN titles aren't all dedicated...just the few big ones) that 40 would easily be possible in any title. Problem is that most games don't allow for that many.

So, no, you're wrong. :)

ps3 in nearly same price as 360 and at least you know what you get, before you get it at least you know there is little chance of it breaking compared to 360, 2 things put me off 360, pay for online pc, wii, ps2 and ps3 you don't have to do and terrible hardware. I want the best quality movies music and games in one device which in my opinion is ps3 since my favourite games are multiplat but some are ps3 exclusive

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]Yep. The PS3 is a blu-ray player that also plays gamesPaddy345

RROD anyone?

Want more salt in that wound?

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

As he said how does this help when 360 can't even do it's sole purpose, PLAY GAMES with RROD, at least with ps3 we get to play our games and blu ray and play online lag free for FREE. I still don't know 1 360 game to have 40 players online like resistance with no lag and it's free, if there is one correct me

I know your responding to a fanboy and your inner fanboy is coming out because of itbut i'm simply going to correct you anyway.

1. Not all 360's get the RROD. Retailers have it estimated at around 25% which is far from all. So, until the numbers read that 100% of 360's have busted, you have no case there. Not only did i play Mass Effect for literally 8 hours straight yesterday but i've done that with quite a few games before...and mine is a launch console with zero problems.

2. XBL is lagfree with the exception of TF2. Which it seems Valve really screwed up with the coding for some reason...but the update fixed it for the most part and Lag isn't seen near as often in TF2. Other then that, XBL is just as lag free as any PSN game...and even more so in cases i'm betting. And this is only with P2P connections. Imagine dedicated servers...:shock:

3. Bluray? Ok, well you got that. Most people are justifying a PS3 purchase and have been for a longtime due to that so i'll give you that one. But movies are just as playable on the 360. :)

4. As for the XBL fee...i'm not going to argue with someone about $50 when they probably themselves spent $600 on a console. It's hypocritical on their part...sorry. Unless these people got the PS3 at the price drop then their in this hypocritical situation.

5. Very few games have the map capacity for 40 players. Perfect Dark Zero was 32 players online and that was P2P with zero lag. You can bet that, if every game was dedicated servers (No, PSN titles aren't all dedicated...just the few big ones) that 40 would easily be possible in any title. Problem is that most games don't allow for that many.

So, no, you're wrong. :)

ps3 in nearly same price as 360 and at least you know what you get, before you get it at least you know there is little chance of it breaking compared to 360, 2 things put me off 360, pay for online pc, wii, ps2 and ps3 you don't have to do and terrible hardware. I want the best quality movies music and games in one device which in my opinion is ps3 since my favourite games are multiplat but some are ps3 exclusive

Yes buddy, even as a PC gamer though I can full well see the Xbox360 and PC's library destroys it, both in size and quality.. It may be a good console no one is argueing that.. But claiming its the best? And you don't pay for online for the PC .....

Eltroz

Oh you did not just go the gaming way :lol:

Neither did you. The fact some people have RROD means nothing. Then again, the fact some people buy a ps3 for the blu-ray movies means nothing too. If a lem can be low, I can be low.

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

Some wait... for somehing that won't happen anytime soon. Sooner or later they will realize.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Hmmm... Care much? As long as we nail the hype threads, its all good.

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

And ME scored the same as WH, that cheap battlefield ripoff (according to some lems). Your deep deep galactic, if not even stellar, game got pwned by a flashy, fancy, multiplayer only...1gb game. Hurts, indeed.

PS2 only has 2 games that sold over 1 million+ copies and niether are 3rd party (I guess you mean PS3)

Many third parties came out... months later. Tell me which third parties those were, then lets calculate the userbase, make the match, and then count in the half-a-year wait ps3 owners had. And im pretty sure COD4 will just defeat your words in some time. Then again, Insomniac isnt first party, neither was Evolution until some weeks ago.

360 has 30 titles that have sold over 1 million + many 3rd party games.

Wow, wow. That's what happens when you have 1 year of lonely nextgen. Theres no PS3 to build the game on, lol.

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

Well, to be fair, ill give you that. Then again, you left yourself exposed. Unlike PSN, LIVE milks you well. "Bu-bu-but only RFOM and WH has teh dedicated servars" So? That means that we are both mainly P2P, and you're still paying for it. So, we can have multiple options to explain it.

PS3 game: 70$
360 game: 70$

One has inbuilt online, the other needs an additional fee of 60$ yearly. BU-BU-BU its only 0,0000101103$ per second. Why not making LIVE-less version of the game, since you have paid for the netcode, but greedy Microsoft milks you again for their excellent online service. Shouldn't the game be cheaper then, since you pay additionally for content you have been locked from using?

Now, if you excuse me, I'll buy another game per year with those 60$ you give to cowboy Bill on one of those offline-only games, being the selected one for this year Uncharted... a game that didnt flop.

Eltroz

Oh you did not just go the gaming way :lol:

Neither did you. The fact some people have RROD means nothing. Then again, the fact some people buy a ps3 for the blu-ray movies means nothing too. If a lem can be low, I can be low.

PS3 has the worst software sales by far.

Some wait... for somehing that won't happen anytime soon. Sooner or later they will realize.

PS3 has still not one AAAE in over a year on GS,Gamerankings, Metacritic

Hmmm... Care much? As long as we nail the hype threads, its all good.

Not one PS3 exclusive game yet has scored better then Mass Effect a Game that flopped

And ME scored the same as WH, that cheap battlefield ripoff (according to some lems). Your deep deep galactic, if not even stellar, game got pwned by a flashy, fancy, multiplayer only...1gb game. Hurts, indeed.

PS2 only has 2 games that sold over 1 million+ copies and niether are 3rd party (I guess you mean PS3)

Many third parties came out... months later. Tell me which third parties those were, then lets calculate the userbase, make the match, and then count in the half-a-year wait ps3 owners had. And im pretty sure COD4 will just defeat your words in some time. Then again, Insomniac isnt first party, neither was Evolution until some weeks ago.

360 has 30 titles that have sold over 1 million + many 3rd party games.

Wow, wow. That's what happens when you have 1 year of lonely nextgen. Theres no PS3 to build the game on, lol.

Almost every big title for PS3 does not have online unlike 360. Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, RnC and so on

Well, to be fair, ill give you that. Then again, you left yourself exposed. Unlike PSN, LIVE milks you well. "Bu-bu-but only RFOM and WH has teh dedicated servars" So? That means that we are both mainly P2P, and you're still paying for it. So, we can have multiple options to explain it.

PS3 game: 70$
360 game: 70$

One has inbuilt online, the other needs an additional fee of 60$ yearly. BU-BU-BU its only 0,0000101103$ per second. Why not making LIVE-less version of the game, since you have paid for the netcode, but greedy Microsoft milks you again for their excellent online service. Shouldn't the game be cheaper then, since you pay additionally for content you have been locked from using?

Now, if you excuse me, I'll buy another game per year with those 60$ you give to cowboy Bill on one of those offline-only games, being the selected one for this year Uncharted... a game that didnt flop.

blitzcloud

Cows who drone on and on about the cost of 360 online lack all credibility when they spend so much for their system (as I'm willing to wager that you got yours before the price drop)

still has no games.

First problem... right now, the only people able to really take advantage of the PS3's architecture is research and academia. The ridiculously difficult SDK for the PS3 (even moreso than the PS2 and PS1 SDK's were when those systems launched) makes it near impossible to just take any high-level code and compile it on there and expect good performance. Even games made with multiplatform in mind (such as Madden and APF 2k8), the PS3 version ends up running poorer. The PS3 reminds me much of the Netburst architecture in that the only way to really make something run fast on the thing is through hand-optimizing the code for it... and once you do that though, it becomes really difficult to try and make it work anywhere else. And that kind of stuff just doesn't fly unless you're:

• Sony
• a second-party developer under Sony's payroll (e.g. Polyphony Digital)
• Have a significant vested interest in the PS3's success
• Your game is only going to ever be in Japan, because they have irrational hate for anything not made from there (like the Xbox 360)

That just doesn't work business-wise, unless your business is based around getting as many PS3's out there as possible.codezer0

very interesting. but wouldnt sony have taken this into consideration. dont titles like COD4 serve as examples you dont really need to divulge more resources to ps3 to make it run smooth. i believe optimization is happening around the clock and the ps3 is been made easier to develop for. only time can tell

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]Yes, but it's so damn expensive :Psixpmgamer

yeah, il admit before it was but with the cut arent you tempted

I would be tempted if it had BC on the $400 version but it doesn't.

Yes, but it's so damn expensive :PNWA_31

No it's not.

And yes I agree it's the most well rounded system.

its simple. brag about exclusives all you want, unless youre an absolute hater you must admit the ps3 has good and great games, exclusive or not (i'l mention them if you want). plus it comes with blu-ray, large space which makes for good media storage and a web browser as a nice little bonus. so the equation is:

quality game console+great movie player+decent media player with good storage+web browser=great all round machine

response????

sixpmgamer

Stop trying to tout Blu-Ray as such a great "movie player", a gaming system is a gaming system is a gaming system, playing movies is completely irrelevant. Blu-Ray is nothing more than an unneccessary increase in price because Sony wants to push their own disk format. Blu-Ray itself has yet to prove any decided superiority in gaming.

I love how the PS3 users think everyone has rrod. 3 year warrenty and they are installing new chips. That is all you have though. PS3 fans have nothing. Can you argue any of the stuff I said. Other then rrod which is getting fixed you have nothing. 360 kills the PS3 in Hardware and software sales. 360 kills PS3 in games that have been scored. Go watch you blu-ray movies Eltroz

Its not a quality game inless it has good games.. Which its lacking severely.. As it stands the PC edges out every thing you have stated right there..

Not to mention the Xbox360 pretty much outdoes or matchs everything you have stated.. The only thing it lacks is a internet browser which could change in the future.. The Pc and Xbox360 also has superior online service..

sSubZerOo

you made me do it. heres a list of good games on the ps3.

COD4, rainbow six: vegas, ninja gaiden sigma, motorstorm, resistance, warhawk, fight night round 3,GRAW 2, dirt, resistanceand many more. now heres what most of you will say. 'it doesnt matter cause there not exclusives.'...that doesntmatter. can you play good games on it....YES!so stop saying the ps3 has no games

but the web browser is slow and rubbish to navigate with the controller :S

my wirless kb and mouse never worked on it either...

that's true, but most people only care about the gaming aspect. and the blunt truth is that the ps3 is horrible compared to 360 and wii, especially with SMG's recent 9.5

and pc is on a whole other level.

very interesting. but wouldnt sony have taken this into consideration.

sixpmgamer

dont titles like COD4 serve as examples you dont really need to divulge more resources to ps3 to make it run smooth.

sixpmgamer

i believe optimization is happening around the clock and the ps3 is been made easier to develop for. only time can tell

sixpmgamer

I an a video game lover....bottem line. I love every system and the games for them. But, that being said, it seems that whenver i mention my ps3 around people they always bash it and say that the wii or 360 is better. I never bash their systems, but they love to jump on the "i hate ps3" bandwagon. the thing i hate is that i know for a fact that most of the ppl that say the 360 or wii is btter have never played a ps3 or probably even seen one besides on the internet. I hate trying to defend my ps3... the only thing i ever say about it is "give it time" because really thats all we can do.... so what, it may take time but sony is not a stupid company... with all this hype about ps3 being the worst system and in last place in terms of sales and software, i believe that the ps3 will be the winner when its all said and done and it will be the biggest turn around in video game history...

Jack of all trades, definitly master of NONE.flazzle

Very well said. At least the Wii and 360 has their own specialties.