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#1 Evilcator
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When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

I just think it's retarded to say they're losing SO MANY EXVLUSIVES, like omg... when really, they're not... at least not yet.

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When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

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The GTA time exclusive was a MASSIVE boon for Sony, because GTAIII, along with Final Fantasy X and MGS2, were the PS2's biggest first-year games, and so many people wanted to play GTA right now that they bought the PS2 rather than wait twelve months for the Xbox/PC versions. When a timed exclusive is exclusive for over nine months, it already is effectively exclusive, because very few games sell that well that long after the initial hype.
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Sony's incapable of getting new exclusives, therefore when any exclusive is announced as multiplatform or released it just adds another nail into sony's coffin of ahm doom. 

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Sony's incapable of getting new exclusives, therefore when any exclusive is announced as multiplatform or released it just adds another nail into sony's coffin of ahm doom.

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which games though, besides GTA4 and DMC3... It's just when people elaborate this ''losing exclusives'' scenario, I'm expecting a list of games, not a couple. And yes, GTA4 was PS2's biggest selling point, but the next game is still coming out for ps3 and 360 on the same day. 

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When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

I just think it's retarded to say they're losing SO MANY EXVLUSIVES, like omg... when really, they're not... at least not yet.

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Its fanboy ranting thats all.  The 360 has lost games as well, its not systems losing exclusive but new games either finally being announced onto what platforms it will be on or gaming devs have ambition for more money. 

People forget that when the move from PS1 to PS2 happened many games that were huge on the PS1 went multiplatform like..Tomb Raider, Resident Evil (left to Gamecube all together for a while), Spyro, Crash, GTA, and MGS (for a time until poor sales pushed it into exclusivity as well).  Every gen. certain get to big to be held on one console and they go multiplat and every gen. there are a new batch of popular top selling games.

Sony loses nothing, they are now sharing support with other consoles thanx to the increase in cost of gaming.  This is not gonna hurt Sony in the least.  The only way it could hurt is if some of Sonys games went exclusive to other consoles which is not happening.

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Losing a single exclusive causes harm. Losing as many as Sony has already must be really painful.
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Losing a single exclusive causes harm. Losing as many as Sony has already must be really painful.foxhound_fox

 

so many huh? 

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[QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

mjarantilla

The GTA time exclusive was a MASSIVE boon for Sony, because GTAIII, along with Final Fantasy X and MGS2, were the PS2's biggest first-year games, and so many people wanted to play GTA right now that they bought the PS2 rather than wait twelve months for the Xbox/PC versions. When a timed exclusive is exclusive for over nine months, it already is effectively exclusive, because very few games sell that well that long after the initial hype.

that is not true...currently people are still buying PS2s over Xboxs even before MS dropped support and gamers could have bought an Xbox with all GTAs available and the Halo series as well.  PS2s popularity was due to variety, nothing more.  GTA at its highest sales which is Vice City has a 12% attach rate.  Hardly a defining game.

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[QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

I just think it's retarded to say they're losing SO MANY EXVLUSIVES, like omg... when really, they're not... at least not yet.

Javy03

Its fanboy ranting thats all. The 360 has lost games as well, its not systems losing exclusive but new games either finally being announced onto what platforms it will be on or gaming devs have ambition for more money.

People forget that when the move from PS1 to PS2 happened many games that were huge on the PS1 went multiplatform like..Tomb Raider, Resident Evil (left to Gamecube all together for a while), Spyro, Crash, GTA, and MGS (for a time until poor sales pushed it into exclusivity as well). Every gen. certain get to big to be held on one console and they go multiplat and every gen. there are a new batch of popular top selling games.

Sony loses nothing, they are now sharing support with other consoles thanx to the increase in cost of gaming. This is not gonna hurt Sony in the least. The only way it could hurt is if some of Sonys games went exclusive to other consoles which is not happening.

 

Great post 

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[QUOTE="-Pale"]

Sony's incapable of getting new exclusives, therefore when any exclusive is announced as multiplatform or released it just adds another nail into sony's coffin of ahm doom.

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which games though, besides GTA4 and DMC3... It's just when people elaborate this ''losing exclusives'' scenario, I'm expecting a list of games, not a couple. And yes, GTA4 was PS2's biggest selling point, but the next game is still coming out for ps3 and 360 on the same day.

:lol: I was joking.

But basically, the game being sold on multiple platforms reduces the drive to purchase a PS3 for it even if it is seen as a Playstation game.

Anyway, in SW's it just people overreacting most of the time.  

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#11 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

Javy03

The GTA time exclusive was a MASSIVE boon for Sony, because GTAIII, along with Final Fantasy X and MGS2, were the PS2's biggest first-year games, and so many people wanted to play GTA right now that they bought the PS2 rather than wait twelve months for the Xbox/PC versions. When a timed exclusive is exclusive for over nine months, it already is effectively exclusive, because very few games sell that well that long after the initial hype.

that is not true...currently people are still buying PS2s over Xboxs even before MS dropped support and gamers could have bought an Xbox with all GTAs available and the Halo series as well. PS2s popularity was due to variety, nothing more. GTA at its highest sales which is Vice City has a 12% attach rate. Hardly a defining game.

First of all, ignore the 120 million sales value Sony spits out, because it's worthless in this particular discussion. The PS2 didn't reach critical mass until the end of its second year, when it reached 30 million sales and then exploded outwards. If you only look at its FIRST YEAR sales, GTAIII, FFX, and MGS2 all had Halo-style attach rates within months of being released. You need to look at sales from a temporal context as more than an absolute one. EDIT: BTW, I'm guessing you're responding to the right now part of my previous post. My apologies. I was talking from the perspective of a gamer in 2001. In 2001, gamers wanted to buy the PS2 immediately (i.e. "right now") because they wanted to play GTAIII on the PS2 ASAP instead of waiting a year for the Xbox version.
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:lol: I was joking.

But basically, the game being sold on multiple platforms reduces the drive to purchase a PS3 for it even if it is seen as a Playstation game.

Anyway, in SW's it just people overreacting most of the time.  

-Pale

 

More people care about "pwning" someone more than anything else. I want FFXIII on my 360, so I can play what is sure to be a quality FF game. Not so I can say, "OH LOLZZ PWNED NOOBSSZZPS3 IS TEH SUXORS PWN O5NAP NOOBS!!1!oneLOLZ"

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Sony's incapable of getting new exclusives, therefore when any exclusive is announced as multiplatform or released it just adds another nail into sony's coffin of ahm doom. 

-Pale

R:FOM, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Warhawk, White Knight Story, Uncharted Fortune, Afrika, Calling all cars, and many, many more new IP exclusive are coming to the PS3. Incapable of getting new excusives? I mean where do you people get this stuff from?

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

mjarantilla

The GTA time exclusive was a MASSIVE boon for Sony, because GTAIII, along with Final Fantasy X and MGS2, were the PS2's biggest first-year games, and so many people wanted to play GTA right now that they bought the PS2 rather than wait twelve months for the Xbox/PC versions. When a timed exclusive is exclusive for over nine months, it already is effectively exclusive, because very few games sell that well that long after the initial hype.

that is not true...currently people are still buying PS2s over Xboxs even before MS dropped support and gamers could have bought an Xbox with all GTAs available and the Halo series as well. PS2s popularity was due to variety, nothing more. GTA at its highest sales which is Vice City has a 12% attach rate. Hardly a defining game.

First of all, ignore the 120 million sales value Sony spits out, because it's worthless in this particular discussion. The PS2 didn't reach critical mass until the end of its second year, when it reached 30 million sales and then exploded outwards. If you only look at its FIRST YEAR sales, GTAIII, FFX, and MGS2 all had Halo-style attach rates within months of being released. You need to look at sales from a temporal context as more than an absolute one. EDIT: BTW, I'm guessing you're responding to the right now part of my previous post. My apologies. I was talking from the perspective of a gamer in 2001. In 2001, gamers wanted to buy the PS2 immediately (i.e. "right now") because they wanted to play GTAIII on the PS2 ASAP instead of waiting a year for the Xbox version.

Do you have the numbers for GTA and PS2 sales during the time of launch.  I am sure it was a much bigger attach rate then but again I highly doubt it was to the extent of halo sized attached rates seeing as how Halo 1 and 2 are close to 33% attach rate now, so I can just imagine what it was back when the games released. 

The problem is people dont realize that you cant stereotype a PS2 fan for a reason and thats because they are a variety of games.  i know many PS2 owners who never touched a GTA and bought only JRPS, and other who focus on Hack and slash, or others that just bought sports, and racing games, or other who bought games like drum drum, singstar and Guitar hero.  GTA was a plus but it did not define the PS2 in any way just like the PS1 was not defined by just GT and Tomb Raider.  Variety sells systems.

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Losing a single exclusive causes harm. Losing as many as Sony has already must be really painful.foxhound_fox
Only to obsessive fanboys that think their console is godlike and its comparible to alien technology. Lets face it. Losing a few exclusives is a fact of the gaming industry. It has happened and will always happen. Get over yourselves.
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If Halo 3 went to PS3, it would kill 360 to a great extent.

 

I believe theres more consumers that play GTA with Playstation then they do Xbox. So GTA4 is definitly probably gona be a GTA4 winner. PS3 also STILL has some good exclusives like "Metal Gear Solid 4" and near future "Final Fantasy", "Devil May Cry" and "Assasins Creed" 

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If Halo 3 went to PS3, it would kill 360 to a great extent.

 

I believe theres more consumers that play GTA with Playstation then they do Xbox. So GTA4 is definitly probably gona be a GTA4 winner. PS3 also STILL has some good exclusives like "Metal Gear Solid 4" and near future "Final Fantasy", "Devil May Cry" and "Assasins Creed"

A_FITZ

Assasins Creed and Devil May Cry are not PS3 exclusives. 

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We're forgetting about Virtua fighter 5 and unreal tournament 2007 which sony also lost.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

Javy03

The GTA time exclusive was a MASSIVE boon for Sony, because GTAIII, along with Final Fantasy X and MGS2, were the PS2's biggest first-year games, and so many people wanted to play GTA right now that they bought the PS2 rather than wait twelve months for the Xbox/PC versions. When a timed exclusive is exclusive for over nine months, it already is effectively exclusive, because very few games sell that well that long after the initial hype.

that is not true...currently people are still buying PS2s over Xboxs even before MS dropped support and gamers could have bought an Xbox with all GTAs available and the Halo series as well. PS2s popularity was due to variety, nothing more. GTA at its highest sales which is Vice City has a 12% attach rate. Hardly a defining game.

First of all, ignore the 120 million sales value Sony spits out, because it's worthless in this particular discussion. The PS2 didn't reach critical mass until the end of its second year, when it reached 30 million sales and then exploded outwards. If you only look at its FIRST YEAR sales, GTAIII, FFX, and MGS2 all had Halo-style attach rates within months of being released. You need to look at sales from a temporal context as more than an absolute one. EDIT: BTW, I'm guessing you're responding to the right now part of my previous post. My apologies. I was talking from the perspective of a gamer in 2001. In 2001, gamers wanted to buy the PS2 immediately (i.e. "right now") because they wanted to play GTAIII on the PS2 ASAP instead of waiting a year for the Xbox version.

Do you have the numbers for GTA and PS2 sales during the time of launch. I am sure it was a much bigger attach rate then but again I highly doubt it was to the extent of halo sized attached rates seeing as how Halo 1 and 2 are close to 33% attach rate now, so I can just imagine what it was back when the games released.

The problem is people dont realize that you cant stereotype a PS2 fan for a reason and thats because they are a variety of games. i know many PS2 owners who never touched a GTA and bought only JRPS, and other who focus on Hack and slash, or others that just bought sports, and racing games, or other who bought games like drum drum, singstar and Guitar hero. GTA was a plus but it did not define the PS2 in any way just like the PS1 was not defined by just GT and Tomb Raider. Variety sells systems.

Halo always hovered at about 33% attach rate since launch. That's to be expected for a first-year killer app. The fact that Halo STILL has a 33% attach rate speaks more to the Xbox's lackluster sales performance rather than Halo's appeal. I can guarantee you that if the PS2 had only sold as much as the Xbox (or slightly more), all of the GTAs would still have sold to about 33%-50% attach rates as well.
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We're forgetting about Virtua fighter 5 and unreal tournament 2007 which sony also lost.e10mgs

UT07? Are you serious?

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

I just think it's retarded to say they're losing SO MANY EXVLUSIVES, like omg... when really, they're not... at least not yet.

Evilcator

Its fanboy ranting thats all. The 360 has lost games as well, its not systems losing exclusive but new games either finally being announced onto what platforms it will be on or gaming devs have ambition for more money.

People forget that when the move from PS1 to PS2 happened many games that were huge on the PS1 went multiplatform like..Tomb Raider, Resident Evil (left to Gamecube all together for a while), Spyro, Crash, GTA, and MGS (for a time until poor sales pushed it into exclusivity as well). Every gen. certain get to big to be held on one console and they go multiplat and every gen. there are a new batch of popular top selling games.

Sony loses nothing, they are now sharing support with other consoles thanx to the increase in cost of gaming. This is not gonna hurt Sony in the least. The only way it could hurt is if some of Sonys games went exclusive to other consoles which is not happening.

 

Great post 

I massively hurts the system. When people can play the same game for $120-300 less on a differant system that kills Sony. People need to justify the price. The only way to do that is exclusive games / features. Not having GTA as a timed exclusive is a crushing loss and anyone you doesnt get that is blind. As of right now there really is no reason to get a PS3 until 2008. But what if MGS and/or FF moves over to 360 as well?
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We're forgetting about Virtua fighter 5 and unreal tournament 2007 which sony also lost.e10mgs

Does anyone actually care about VF5 anymore?

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[QUOTE="e10mgs"]We're forgetting about Virtua fighter 5 and unreal tournament 2007 which sony also lost.hotdaisy18

Does anyone actually care about VF5 anymore?

 

I do. I want that game pretty badly. Not as much as I want a new Soul Calibur, though... :(

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Sure some people are overreacting but losing Exclusives does really harm a console even if the game is Multi-platform because when people see that they will probably think this game is on a cheaper console now I have less of a reason to buy the more expensive console, and the more that keeps happening the less anybody will buy the more expensive console when they can get the same game on a cheaper console.
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[QUOTE="Evilcator"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

I just think it's retarded to say they're losing SO MANY EXVLUSIVES, like omg... when really, they're not... at least not yet.

SpideR_CentS

Its fanboy ranting thats all. The 360 has lost games as well, its not systems losing exclusive but new games either finally being announced onto what platforms it will be on or gaming devs have ambition for more money.

People forget that when the move from PS1 to PS2 happened many games that were huge on the PS1 went multiplatform like..Tomb Raider, Resident Evil (left to Gamecube all together for a while), Spyro, Crash, GTA, and MGS (for a time until poor sales pushed it into exclusivity as well). Every gen. certain get to big to be held on one console and they go multiplat and every gen. there are a new batch of popular top selling games.

Sony loses nothing, they are now sharing support with other consoles thanx to the increase in cost of gaming. This is not gonna hurt Sony in the least. The only way it could hurt is if some of Sonys games went exclusive to other consoles which is not happening.

 

Great post 

I massively hurts the system. When people can play the same game for $120-300 less on a differant system that kills Sony. People need to justify the price. The only way to do that is exclusive games / features. Not having GTA as a timed exclusive is a crushing loss and anyone you doesnt get that is blind. As of right now there really is no reason to get a PS3 until 2008. But what if MGS and/or FF moves over to 360 as well?

FF and mgs are not moving over, so that point should be taken out, but you're right there is nothing to justify spending 600 on a ps3 right now.
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[QUOTE="e10mgs"]We're forgetting about Virtua fighter 5 and unreal tournament 2007 which sony also lost.hotdaisy18

Does anyone actually care about VF5 anymore?

 

Well, cows "stopped caring" once it was announced for xbox 360 as well.  Even though you know .. Xbox probably can't "handle" tekken 5 due to the lack of cell processing power!

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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

[QUOTE="e10mgs"]We're forgetting about Virtua fighter 5 and unreal tournament 2007 which sony also lost.Dups79

Does anyone actually care about VF5 anymore?

 

Well, cows "stopped caring" once it was announced for xbox 360 as well.  Even though you know .. Xbox probably can't "handle" tekken 5 due to the lack of cell processing power!

Its not that, lemmings aren't elite enough for Tekken 5! :evil:

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As far as exclusives go, whether it be from PS or Nintendo, imo, Xbox's biggest snatch (or share) is Resident Evil.  Only because I love this game so much.  I mean, besides DMC, xbox owners have seen GTA on the system...and MGS, and many owners could care less about Final Fantasy, but we haven't even sniffed Resident Evil before now.
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[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

[QUOTE="e10mgs"]We're forgetting about Virtua fighter 5 and unreal tournament 2007 which sony also lost.Dups79

Does anyone actually care about VF5 anymore?

 

Well, cows "stopped caring" once it was announced for xbox 360 as well.  Even though you know .. Xbox probably can't "handle" tekken 5 due to the lack of cell processing power!

I thought the lack of online was the big factor of people not caring about this one. I've played it, and I don't see why people rave on about how big and technical it is. You just have to time your attacks. Just like any other fighter I've played.

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#30 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

mjarantilla

The GTA time exclusive was a MASSIVE boon for Sony, because GTAIII, along with Final Fantasy X and MGS2, were the PS2's biggest first-year games, and so many people wanted to play GTA right now that they bought the PS2 rather than wait twelve months for the Xbox/PC versions. When a timed exclusive is exclusive for over nine months, it already is effectively exclusive, because very few games sell that well that long after the initial hype.

that is not true...currently people are still buying PS2s over Xboxs even before MS dropped support and gamers could have bought an Xbox with all GTAs available and the Halo series as well. PS2s popularity was due to variety, nothing more. GTA at its highest sales which is Vice City has a 12% attach rate. Hardly a defining game.

First of all, ignore the 120 million sales value Sony spits out, because it's worthless in this particular discussion. The PS2 didn't reach critical mass until the end of its second year, when it reached 30 million sales and then exploded outwards. If you only look at its FIRST YEAR sales, GTAIII, FFX, and MGS2 all had Halo-style attach rates within months of being released. You need to look at sales from a temporal context as more than an absolute one. EDIT: BTW, I'm guessing you're responding to the right now part of my previous post. My apologies. I was talking from the perspective of a gamer in 2001. In 2001, gamers wanted to buy the PS2 immediately (i.e. "right now") because they wanted to play GTAIII on the PS2 ASAP instead of waiting a year for the Xbox version.

Do you have the numbers for GTA and PS2 sales during the time of launch. I am sure it was a much bigger attach rate then but again I highly doubt it was to the extent of halo sized attached rates seeing as how Halo 1 and 2 are close to 33% attach rate now, so I can just imagine what it was back when the games released.

The problem is people dont realize that you cant stereotype a PS2 fan for a reason and thats because they are a variety of games. i know many PS2 owners who never touched a GTA and bought only JRPS, and other who focus on Hack and slash, or others that just bought sports, and racing games, or other who bought games like drum drum, singstar and Guitar hero. GTA was a plus but it did not define the PS2 in any way just like the PS1 was not defined by just GT and Tomb Raider. Variety sells systems.

Halo always hovered at about 33% attach rate since launch. That's to be expected for a first-year killer app. The fact that Halo STILL has a 33% attach rate speaks more to the Xbox's lackluster sales performance rather than Halo's appeal. I can guarantee you that if the PS2 had only sold as much as the Xbox (or slightly more), all of the GTAs would still have sold to about 33%-50% attach rates as well.

Well unfortunatly that is strictly assumption, and I truly doubt that halo stayed at only 33%.

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#31 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Evilcator"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="Evilcator"]

When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

I just think it's retarded to say they're losing SO MANY EXVLUSIVES, like omg... when really, they're not... at least not yet.

SpideR_CentS

Its fanboy ranting thats all. The 360 has lost games as well, its not systems losing exclusive but new games either finally being announced onto what platforms it will be on or gaming devs have ambition for more money.

People forget that when the move from PS1 to PS2 happened many games that were huge on the PS1 went multiplatform like..Tomb Raider, Resident Evil (left to Gamecube all together for a while), Spyro, Crash, GTA, and MGS (for a time until poor sales pushed it into exclusivity as well). Every gen. certain get to big to be held on one console and they go multiplat and every gen. there are a new batch of popular top selling games.

Sony loses nothing, they are now sharing support with other consoles thanx to the increase in cost of gaming. This is not gonna hurt Sony in the least. The only way it could hurt is if some of Sonys games went exclusive to other consoles which is not happening.

 

Great post 

I massively hurts the system. When people can play the same game for $120-300 less on a differant system that kills Sony. People need to justify the price. The only way to do that is exclusive games / features. Not having GTA as a timed exclusive is a crushing loss and anyone you doesnt get that is blind. As of right now there really is no reason to get a PS3 until 2008. But what if MGS and/or FF moves over to 360 as well?

Again your opinion about no reason to buy a PS3 till 2008 is just that, YOUR OPINION.  There are millions of people who have found justifications for purchasing it now, I am one of them and couldnt be happier, I am not gonna say that everyone should get a PS3, that is their opinion and justifications are subjective.

Again, GTAs have been available on both the PS2 and Xbox for a while yet even during the release of the next gen games, gamers have chosen to buy a PS2 over an Xbox.  If GTA is so defining and so wanted wouldnt people be buying Xboxs currently instead of PS2s so they can play GTA and Halos.  But they didnt, in fact the total attach rate of the PS2 for the highest GTA is 12%.  PS2 won because of variety, because it had good games for each genre and plenty to chose from on top of its hardware feature of DVD player.

 

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#32 D_Znuhtz
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Sony's incapable of getting new exclusives, therefore when any exclusive is announced as multiplatform or released it just adds another nail into sony's coffin of ahm doom.

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ATTENTION! You're a fanboy! Put down the keyboard, let the mouse go, and put your hands up.  

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#33 ShmenonPie
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When people say this, who else get's baffled like I do?

Yes, they lost DMC4, but it's still going to their system...

They lost GTAIV time exclusives like they did last gen, but the game is still coming out on both systems on the same day... And when that was announced, that wasn't all so surprising considering rockstar is a multyplat compagnie...

I just think it's retarded to say they're losing SO MANY EXVLUSIVES, like omg... when really, they're not... at least not yet.

Evilcator

Not yet? As time goes on and BluRay becomes more and more needed, the PS3 will gain exclusives like crazy, but by then (in about a year) M$ will have released the super uber omega incredible ultimate legendary Xbox360 (the 49th one) like they released 23 versions of Vista or something... That's M$ milkage for you! And the latest 360 will do the dishes, dust, play Gears of War 9 and display the wheel of death all at the same time! 

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#34 Thanatos1337
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I find it hilarious that Sony is finally getting what it deserves after it's incredible arrogance towards consumers, developers, stockholders, and just about everybody else.

Great times for 360 owners though.

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#35 shoeman12
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some people might buy a ps3 just to play one of those games but since they're not exclusive they don't have to buy one to play them and its also a sign of things to come. people say they're losing so many because those were some of the few system sellers it had.
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#36 elcoholic
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The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).
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#37 mmirza23
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I find it hilarious that Sony is finally getting what it deserves after it's incredible arrogance towards consumers, developers, stockholders, and just about everybody else.

Great times for 360 owners though.

Thanatos1337
lol dude MS is the same way towards everyone.
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#38 anubis8515
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The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).elcoholic

 KeyWords Last gen game. Not the big of a deal.

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#39 DXGreat1_HGL
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The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).elcoholic

 Really? How's this a big loss when cows called NG 'Ninja May Cry' and said it was over rated? Now all of a sudden it's the greatest game. Typical cows, flip floping over anything. Face it, the lost PS3 exclusives far more outweigh the 360's. You don't see MS supporters starting online petitions crying over losing 3rd party exclusives...

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#40 elcoholic
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[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).anubis8515

KeyWords Last gen game. Not the big of a deal.

Nah, its a big deal (and a sign that NG2 will also be on ps3). Imagine FF7 remake comming out on the 360 and that's 2 gens old. All hell would break loose over here.

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#41 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="anubis8515"]

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).elcoholic

KeyWords Last gen game. Not the big of a deal.

Nah, its a big deal (and a sign that NG2 will also be on ps3). Imagine FF7 remake comming out on the 360 and that's 2 gens old. All hell would break loose over here.

 To who? Who cares about FF7 remake? You're just making up the 'signs' that NG2 will be on PS3...

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[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).DXGreat1_HGL

 Really? How's this a big loss when cows called NG 'Ninja May Cry' and said it was over rated? Now all of a sudden it's the greatest game. Typical cows, flip floping over anything. Face it, the lost PS3 exclusives far more outweigh the 360's. You don't see MS supporters starting online petitions crying over losing 3rd party exclusives...

lol it works the same way for 360 owners, if they had never gotten DMC they would keep saying, DMC is nothing compared to NG it's crap but now that they are getting it they are all over it, samething would happen for MGS4 and FF13
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#43 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="elcoholic"][QUOTE="anubis8515"]

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).DXGreat1_HGL

KeyWords Last gen game. Not the big of a deal.

Nah, its a big deal (and a sign that NG2 will also be on ps3). Imagine FF7 remake comming out on the 360 and that's 2 gens old. All hell would break loose over here.

 To who? Who cares about FF7 remake? You're just making up the 'signs' that NG2 will be on PS3...

ANY final fantasy gamer would care about a FF7 remake...
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#44 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).mmirza23

 Really? How's this a big loss when cows called NG 'Ninja May Cry' and said it was over rated? Now all of a sudden it's the greatest game. Typical cows, flip floping over anything. Face it, the lost PS3 exclusives far more outweigh the 360's. You don't see MS supporters starting online petitions crying over losing 3rd party exclusives...

lol it works the same way for 360 owners, if they had never gotten DMC they would keep saying, DMC is nothing compared to NG it's crap but now that they are getting it they are all over it, samething would happen for MGS4 and FF13

 Actually DMC3 was the only game I found redeemable for PS2. As far as MGS and FF go, I hasve no interest in either. I just find it funny watching cows in excuse mode. You can bookmark this response, if either get ported...

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#45 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="elcoholic"][QUOTE="anubis8515"]

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).mmirza23

KeyWords Last gen game. Not the big of a deal.

Nah, its a big deal (and a sign that NG2 will also be on ps3). Imagine FF7 remake comming out on the 360 and that's 2 gens old. All hell would break loose over here.

 To who? Who cares about FF7 remake? You're just making up the 'signs' that NG2 will be on PS3...

ANY final fantasy gamer would care about a FF7 remake...

Oh I see, it's better to live in the past then accept the decrepid future of the franchise...

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#46 elcoholic
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[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).DXGreat1_HGL

Really? How's this a big loss when cows called NG 'Ninja May Cry' and said it was over rated? Now all of a sudden it's the greatest game. Typical cows, flip floping over anything. Face it, the lost PS3 exclusives far more outweigh the 360's. You don't see MS supporters starting online petitions crying over losing 3rd party exclusives...

Not something i said. I like both and prefer sony consoles but like i said ninja gaiden was my second favorite game of last gen. In the end sony still has more studio's working for them and more second party. I try not to use the praise but 'just wait' a few years. Mainly japanese studio's don't see money in the 360 (since its dead in japan). Its wii/ps3 for them and if they want to make a grahically impresive game the ps3 will be their choice.

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#47 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).DXGreat1_HGL

 Really? How's this a big loss when cows called NG 'Ninja May Cry' and said it was over rated? Now all of a sudden it's the greatest game. Typical cows, flip floping over anything. Face it, the lost PS3 exclusives far more outweigh the 360's. You don't see MS supporters starting online petitions crying over losing 3rd party exclusives...

lol it works the same way for 360 owners, if they had never gotten DMC they would keep saying, DMC is nothing compared to NG it's crap but now that they are getting it they are all over it, samething would happen for MGS4 and FF13

 Actually DMC3 was the only game I found redeemable for PS2. As far as MGS and FF go, I hasve no interest in either. I just find it funny watching cows in excuse mode. You can bookmark this response, if either get ported...

ok i respect the fact that you have no interest in it, but a majority of 360 owners would, in all 3...and I agree DMC 3 was the best of the 3 especially the SE, 1 was pretty good too, 2 being by far the worst.
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#48 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="elcoholic"][QUOTE="anubis8515"]

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]The bigges loss is in the xbox camp. Ninja gaiden comming to sony. Second best game of last gen imo (after RE4).DXGreat1_HGL

KeyWords Last gen game. Not the big of a deal.

Nah, its a big deal (and a sign that NG2 will also be on ps3). Imagine FF7 remake comming out on the 360 and that's 2 gens old. All hell would break loose over here.

 To who? Who cares about FF7 remake? You're just making up the 'signs' that NG2 will be on PS3...

ANY final fantasy gamer would care about a FF7 remake...

Oh I see, it's better to live in the past then accept the decrepid future of the franchise...

decrepid future? when the ff games on playstation have still been scoring AA-AAA? ok im confused about that.