PS3. Losing the war?

Let me state this first, I've always been dead loyal to Sony Playstation. Back in 2003 when I got my first Playstation 2, I felt an instant bond to the magical console. It was a bond that combined boy with machine and made it one. It was love. Not even the N64 could compete. So naturally when first gen Xbox came out, I felt a the tension of rivalry and became a hater of the box. Whenever a game from the box failed to sell, I would smile in delight of their failure.

The PS2 was fantastic. All major games were on it. The FFs, GTAs, REs, SHs, Sly, God of war, Battlefront, MetalGS....the list goes on. It was perfect because despite it being a Japanese console, the majority of American games were publishedon the PS2. But finally, after seven years or so, the legacy started to draw towards a end, and the dawn of next gen consoles were on the rise. Tho I didn't have enough extra savings to purchase one, I ardently supported the PS3. It was a shock to me that the XBOX had reincarnated stronger than ever. PS3 sales were crushed by the Xbox and there didnt seem to be as many major titles as its opponent had to offer.

So here is my (recent) perceptionfor both consoles as aindividual that did not do his homework:

XBox360:

Pros:

-Started really strong with a wider variety of game choices

-Many games that were released on both consoles seem to have better graphics and less lags or bugs on the xbox than ps3

-Online community is rich, diverse, and easy to use

-Achievement setting is far more reasonable than the 4 trophy system on the ps3

-Downloaded gamesare ready to play right after downloading

-Audience is more diverse and contains mature gamers while in ps3 half the population are 12 year old kids

-Xboxhas gears of war, halo, mass effect...etc

-XBox is American (American game developers are putting the Japanese companies out of business. I kinda made the connection that more US games would appear on the Xbox while more Japanese games would appear on the PS3. Appologies for notstating that clearly.)

-Some arcade games are free and reward achievements

Con:

-Discounts on Holidays

-Greedy as heck for charging a monthly network fee

-Red Ring of Death=Cheap company that tries to rip off on gamers (which also resulted in no refunds, buy new xboxs, and rebuy scratched games)

-Microsoft is still a moneywhore because credits expire

PS3:

Pro:

-Plays Blu-Ray! (But honestly, Ive never used that function)

-Makes their material from great stuff that lasts for decades

-Is the new born brother of the ps2

-Internet is free

-Great holiday Bundles if you want to buy a ps3

-GOD OF WAR!! FINAl FANTASY!! HEAVY RAIN!! (and LBP for some people)

Con:

-Slow start. Bunch of Problems

-Lesser choice of cool games

-Online community sucks. Very limited in what you can do with friends, and sending messages sometimes freezes the ps3

-PShome is a bitter joke

-Trophy system is terrible. A person with 16 plat trophies would be level 13, while a person with 5 plats would be 12. Small motive to collect trophies when youre a high rank

-Downloaded games and demos are "compressed files"

-Arcade games SUCK.

-Demos sometimes come out later than XBox (Crysis 2. Xbox had it for months. PS3 is still waiting and the games already out)

-Wait for years for the games on Xbox to make there way to PS3 (Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden)

-Immature gamers

-System updates every friggin month. If you hadn't played in two months, updates take up to half an hour.

-Terrible Holiday discounts if you already own a ps3

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

-Play Station Move. A money whoring move. Requires a bundle of move wands, remote, cameras. Some games provide 3D. but that means a whole new TV set (2000), and Glasses (200 per pair)

That's all I can think of now. If you agree, disagree, or have something to add for either console, please tell me. Maybe I'm very wrong in judging, so please enlighten me by your thoughts.

It really disappoints me to see PS3 get beat up so badly by the XBOX. I loved the PS2, but if sony goes in the gutter, I'm gonna jump on board with Microsoft

I don't whether to laugh or pity you for that bias list. I'll give you an A for effort though since it looks like it took you a while to think of those more "creative" points for your pros and cons.

Let me state this first, I've always been dead loyal to Sony Playstation. Back in 2003 when I got my first Playstation 2, I felt an instant bond to the magical console. It was a bond that combined boy with machine and made it one. It was love. Not even the N64 could compete. So naturally when first gen Xbox came out, I felt a the tension of rivalry and became a hater of the box. Whenever a game from the box failed to sell, I would smile in delight of their failure.

The PS2 was fantastic. All major games were on it. The FFs, GTAs, REs, SHs, Sly, God of war, Battlefront, MetalGS....the list goes on. It was perfect because despite it being a Japanese console, the majority of American games were publishedon the PS2. But finally, after seven years or so, the legacy started to draw towards a end, and the dawn of next gen consoles were on the rise. Tho I didn't have enough extra savings to purchase one, I ardently supported the PS3. It was a shock to me that the XBOX had reincarnated stronger than ever. PS3 sales were crushed by the Xbox and there didnt seem to be as many major titles as its opponent had to offer.

So here is my (recent) perceptionfor both consoles as aindividual that did not do his homework:

XBox360:

Pros:

-Started really strong with a wider variety of game choices

-Many games that were released on both consoles seem to have better graphics and less lags or bugs on the xbox than ps3

-Online community is rich, diverse, and easy to use

-Achievement setting is far more reasonable than the 4 trophy system on the ps3

-Downloaded gamesare ready to play right after downloading

-Audience is more diverse and contains mature gamers while in ps3 half the population are 12 year old kids

-Xboxhas gears of war, halo, mass effect...etc

-XBox is American (American game developers are putting the Japanese companies out of business. I kinda made the connection that more US games would appear on the Xbox while more Japanese games would appear on the PS3. Appologies for notstating that clearly.)

-Some arcade games are free and reward achievements

Con:

-Discounts on Holidays

-Greedy as heck for charging a monthly network fee

-Red Ring of Death=Cheap company that tries to rip off on gamers (which also resulted in no refunds, buy new xboxs, and rebuy scratched games)

-Microsoft is still a moneywhore because credits expire

PS3:

Pro:

-Plays Blu-Ray! (But honestly, Ive never used that function)

-Makes their material from great stuff that lasts for decades

-Is the new born brother of the ps2

-Internet is free

-Great holiday Bundles if you want to buy a ps3

-GOD OF WAR!! FINAl FANTASY!! HEAVY RAIN!! (and LBP for some people)

Con:

-Slow start. Bunch of Problems

-Lesser choice of cool games

-Online community sucks. Very limited in what you can do with friends, and sending messages sometimes freezes the ps3

-PShome is a bitter joke

-Trophy system is terrible. A person with 16 plat trophies would be level 13, while a person with 5 plats would be 12. Small motive to collect trophies when youre a high rank

-Downloaded games and demos are "compressed files"

-Arcade games SUCK.

-Demos sometimes come out later than XBox (Crysis 2. Xbox had it for months. PS3 is still waiting and the games already out)

-Wait for years for the games on Xbox to make there way to PS3 (Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden)

-Immature gamers

-System updates every friggin month. If you hadn't played in two months, updates take up to half an hour.

-Terrible Holiday discounts if you already own a ps3

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

-Play Station Move. A money whoring move. Requires a bundle of move wands, remote, cameras. Some games provide 3D. but that means a whole new TV set (2000), and Glasses (200 per pair)

That's all I can think of now. If you agree, disagree, or have something to add for either console, please tell me. Maybe I'm very wrong in judging, so please enlighten me by your thoughts.

It really disappoints me to see PS3 get beat up so badly by the XBOX. I loved the PS2, but if sony goes in the gutter, I'm gonna jump on board with Microsoft

thechad123

Opinion

The 360 isn't any better on that department, Even the PC on a few rare occasions

Why would you need a discounted PS3 if you already have one?

Another Opnion

PS3:

Con:

-Immature gamers

thechad123

Ok, I didn't really go through your whole bunch of nonsense...but when I see this I laughed :lol:

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

Having had my PS3 for going on 3 years now, I've never ran into this, please elaborate.

Your list is great! Well not really, but at least you tried! Kudos!

The only real comment I wanted to make was that I think trophies are a lot better than acheivements.

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

Having had my PS3 for going on 3 years now, I've never ran into this, please elaborate.

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

Having had my PS3 for going on 3 years now, I've never ran into this, please elaborate.

Let me state this first, I've always been dead loyal to Sony Playstation.

thechad123

Enough to stop reading right there. This is like one of those PC hate threads in disguise lol.

Anyways, Sony lost a lot of market share and momentum in general this gen. In that sense they are losing this non-exist ant war.

But the PS3 is a nice piece of hardware as far as consoles go, it has plenty of functionality and most importantly it has a lot of games a like with plenty more on the way. So I guess I don't care.

PS3 losing the war lol wut?

How many exclusives xbox has so far this year? Still 0 xD

PS3 has around 10 and tons more coming

PS3 losing the war lol wut?

How many exclusives xbox has so far this year? Still 0 xD

PS3 has around 10 and tons more coming

Zurrur

PS3:

Con:

-System updates every friggin month. If you hadn't played in two months, updates take up to half an hour.

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

-Play Station Move. A money whoring move. Requires a bundle of move wands, remote, cameras. Some games provide 3D. but that means a whole new TV set (2000), and Glasses (200 per pair)

thechad123

Me thinks you don't own a playstation 3.

Firstly, if you're taking forever to download a firmware update then your internet provider blows. Spend more money and upgrade your download speed.

Secondly, I have had my Playstation3 since 2007 and have never once had to rebuy a game from the store because of an expired license. Please do your homework next time buddy. What you are referring to is Sony's policy on buying games. You are allowed up to 5 activations of a game onto 5 seperate systems.

Thirdly, if you did any research on this at all, which I'm assuming you haven't, Xbox has a couuple of 3D enabled as well. These games ALSO require a beefed up television with a special pair of shutter glasses.

It's kinda funny how people come here to make the Playstation look bad and their first comments are how they were SO loyal to Sony years ago. It's almost like that them look less like fanboys and more like informed debaters. The truth of the matter is these posts are a dime a dozen. Each of the people who post incoherent crap like this don't know what their talking about.

Aw silly TC...your first mistake was making a thread saying anything wrong about the PS3 here on Cowspot. You just don't do that. (shakes head, and walks away before the real stampede hits)

Aw silly TC...your first mistake was making a thread saying anything wrong about the PS3 here on Cowspot. You just don't do that. (shakes head, and walks away before the real stampede hits)

coasterguy65

That's not the point.

The point is both systems have differences.

If the TC is so impressed with his Xbox maybe he should be playing it ... you know ... in stead of coming to a forum to put down people who own the Xbox's competing platform.

These threads are just annoying. Some people just can't let things be and enjoy what they enjoy. Instead, they have to validate their purchase by putting others down.

[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

PS3 losing the war lol wut?

How many exclusives xbox has so far this year? Still 0 xD

PS3 has around 10 and tons more coming

Crimsader

Yep NPD sales only counts

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Aw silly TC...your first mistake was making a thread saying anything wrong about the PS3 here on Cowspot. You just don't do that. (shakes head, and walks away before the real stampede hits)

jbc7343

That's not the point.

The point is both systems have differences.

If the TC is so impressed with his Xbox maybe he should be playing it ... you know ... in stead of coming to a forum to put down people who own the Xbox's competing platform.

These threads are just annoying. Some people just can't let things be and enjoy what they enjoy. Instead, they have to validate their purchase by putting others down.

[QUOTE="thechad123"]

PS3:

Con:

-System updates every friggin month. If you hadn't played in two months, updates take up to half an hour.

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

-Play Station Move. A money whoring move. Requires a bundle of move wands, remote, cameras. Some games provide 3D. but that means a whole new TV set (2000), and Glasses (200 per pair)

jbc7343

It's kinda funny how people come here to make the Playstation look bad and their first comments are how they were SO loyal to Sony years ago. It's almost like that them look less like fanboys and more like informed debaters. The truth of the matter is these posts are a dime a dozen. Each of the people who post incoherent crap like this don't know what their talking about.

Agree :)

Nah, the war is still raging.

One things for sure though this gen. MS have risen to prominence ans Sony have fallen from grace. So sony fails regardless.

Never seen one of these threads before. I like how almost all of your arguments are either opinion, flat out made up (Purchased PSN games don't expire after 1 year, that's juts the "free" ones with PSN+), or in a few cases probably even backwards if you are going to generalize. (i.e. XBOX is for mature gamers, but PSN is for 12 year olds :|).

PS3 has pretty much been the big winner this gen.TheMoreYouOwn

How did you work that out?

PS3

Pro:

As PS3 getting Cheaper more exclusive games arrives but a little "move" Exclusive games arrives

360

Pro:

As 360 getting Cheaper more Kinect exclusives arrives but a little exclusive games arrives

free online is a pro? i have psn and can tell you that it is not. please sony take my money and fix psn.

anyway the ps3 has made an amazing comeback overall from the utter joke it was for the first 2.5 years.

The stupidity of society for choosing the 360 is mind-boggling. How could anyone stand for paying a fee to play games you own? That is a blatant rip-off cash in. And people fall for it. I mean, thats stealing your money. You do them a favor and buy their product, the actual console. Then you go out and support the industry and buy the games. And then you have a fee to actually enjoy it online? I have to hand it to Microsoft, they are genius for getting away with ripping off every single customer and they have probably made a crap load of money. People shouldn't be supporting companies like this. Every company is out to make money but don't let them blatantly rip you off.

It has lost in games for sure, and now lost in graphics by a huge margin

But still has blu ray advantage

The stupidity of society for choosing the 360 is mind-boggling. How could anyone stand for paying a fee to play games you own? That is a blatant rip-off cash in. And people fall for it. I mean, thats stealing your money. You do them a favor and buy their product, the actual console. Then you go out and support the industry and buy the games. And then you have a fee to actually enjoy it online? I have to hand it to Microsoft, they are genius for getting away with ripping off every single customer and they have probably made a crap load of money. People shouldn't be supporting companies like this. Every company is out to make money but don't let them blatantly rip you off.

Drakan11

It's hard to believe that you're a Sony fan when all your opinions are so biased against it. Fakeboy ftl?

[QUOTE="Drakan11"]

The stupidity of society for choosing the 360 is mind-boggling. How could anyone stand for paying a fee to play games you own? That is a blatant rip-off cash in. And people fall for it. I mean, thats stealing your money. You do them a favor and buy their product, the actual console. Then you go out and support the industry and buy the games. And then you have a fee to actually enjoy it online? I have to hand it to Microsoft, they are genius for getting away with ripping off every single customer and they have probably made a crap load of money. People shouldn't be supporting companies like this. Every company is out to make money but don't let them blatantly rip you off.

_SWAG_

i can make more money i cannot make more lifeforce.

maybe that is a goofy way to see it but it is the way things are.

the new test drive had a 30 min 600 meg dl (and separate additional 10 min install) and a 2 gig manditory hdd install when i went to my buddys house to play it. we actually sat through 2 tv shows while it did it's thing.

when my 360 version came in it had a 2 meg 15 second install and the game fired up and i played it.

i'm at the point of begging sony to charge for psn just so it's not such a bad experience.

my time >>> money.

-(A triple con) some PS3 downloadable games actually only sell you license. Aftera year, they make you rebuy the game or delete it.

Having had my PS3 for going on 3 years now, I've never ran into this, please elaborate.

i dont know about losing the war TC. if by losing you mean Last place in hardware sales for a 5th year in a row, Software sales That PALE in comparison to 360, PS Move outsold by Kinnect 13 to 1 and the latest CRYSIS 2 whooping.....then YES.

but thats just relative to the observer.

On the contrary, I feel that the PS3 is the only console that is a must have right now if you're a gamer. Besides the obvious pros of the system Sony seems to have more respect for the hardcore gamers than Microsoft and ESPECIALLY Nintendo.

Well thats probably the stupidest excuse I have ever heard to defend being ripped off. There is nothing making you wait for it. Go read the dictionary. Go do a few pushups. Go eat a healthy meal. Go outside and talk to a girl. Go study something. You can better your life in some way in 30 minutes instead of sitting there and watching the screen and claiming it is sucking away life force. The people these days......and don't act like vidoe games are not wasting your time. I love games but I am not going to pretend I am making the best use of my time. At the very least, I try not to throw money away for this hobby, unlike others. Drakan11

if i have budgeted some time to waste i expect to be able to sit down and waste them not make my decision then find out i have to change my plans because the game system has a different use for my time.

i like to play things on my terms not put the disc in and find something to do for the next half hour or longer.

edit: btw, http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/02/06/;)

i dont know about losing the war TC. if by losing you mean Last place in hardware sales for a 5th year in a row, Software sales That PALE in comparison to 360, PS Move outsold by Kinnect 13 to 1 and the latest CRYSIS 2 whooping.....then YES.

but thats just relative to the observer.

bryn8150

Because, you know sales mean everything, and that's why Black Ops is obviously the best game ever.:roll:

[QUOTE="Drakan11"]Well thats probably the stupidest excuse I have ever heard to defend being ripped off. There is nothing making you wait for it. Go read the dictionary. Go do a few pushups. Go eat a healthy meal. Go outside and talk to a girl. Go study something. You can better your life in some way in 30 minutes instead of sitting there and watching the screen and claiming it is sucking away life force. The people these days......and don't act like vidoe games are not wasting your time. I love games but I am not going to pretend I am making the best use of my time. At the very least, I try not to throw money away for this hobby, unlike others. Riverwolf007

if i have budgeted some time to waste i expect to be able to sit down and waste them not make my decision then find out i have to change my plans because the game system has a different use for my time.

i like to play things on my terms not put the disc in and find something to do for the next half hour or longer.

edit: btw, http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/02/06/;)