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I didn't think it was possible for awhile. But the more I think about it, this seems likely. When Halo 3 arrived, a vast majority of people holding out on a 360 finally bought one. There aren't a lot of people waiting to buy a 360 now because the megahits have already released. Most people who wanted a Halo game bought a 360. Most people who wanted Gears of War got a 360. Most people who wanted the "big" racing sims Forza 2 and 3 bought a 360. Same with Mass Effect. There isn't really one huge title coming soon making people wait to buy a 360.

Now, with PS3, I'm sure a lot of people are holding out on buying one until GOW 3, FFXIII, GT5 release. Those games will be huge sellers and I bet there are a lot of people waiting on PS3 until those release. Yes, I know FFXIII is coming to 360 also, but in Japan you can bet the PS3 version will smoke 360 in sales and that PS3 sales will have a big increase as well.

2010 has games that will automatically make PS3 have a sales increase. The same does not appear to hold true for 360. I don't see a sales increase happening.

Natal needs to be a huge hit and Microsoft needs to lower the price of 360 again soon to maintain the lead. Otherwise, I think PS3 will surpass it.

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#2 _Cadbury_
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I agree.Things are looking up for Sony, they've really come a long way since the ps3s launch
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#3 oajlu
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then 360 starts as 1st in this gen, but finish at the last place....

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#4 James161324
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Not going to happen and since when is japan a big enough market to consider it a big whoop. it like 10 percent of all video game sales if even that.

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#5 jakarai
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I said this years ago...
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#6 dream431ca
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Microsoft has a horrible strategic plan when it comes to releasing games. I think the term is "Don't put all your eggs in one basket". Basically, don't release all your big games close to each other. Spread them out during the lifetime of the console.

I agree with the OP that Natal has to do good for MS to stand any chance in 2010.

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#7 reyad-u
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I'm sure sales of 360 will jump once Reach launches. Not to mention all those owners of banned 360s will buy a new one.
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#8 dream431ca
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I'm sure sales of 360 will jump once Reach launches. Not to mention all those owners of banned 360s will buy a new one.reyad-u

I'm pretty sure, Reach is going to have little to no impact on sales, as most people who want a Halo game, bought a 360 when Halo 3 came out.

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#9 ogvampire
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i still dont think so. MS seems to be making sure it stays ahead of the ps3. considering ms makes money off of each system sold, i dont see why they wont lower the price if the ps3 sales come close

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#10 DoomZaW
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We will just have to wait and see, who knows, maybe natal may actually be a success :P

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#11 kolkov01
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If project natal does not deliver then I don't see much hope for the 360 in terms of staying ahead of the PS3
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#12 kolkov01
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Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I said this years ago...jakarai
Yeah but you'll say anything that favours the PS3
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#13 sikanderahmed
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maybe *snif* maybe

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if they drop the price of the arcade another 50-100$ it might get a big boost

a 99$ 360and its game over

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#15 DeadEndPanda
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ps3, xbox360 stop fighting in the back seat, the wii is driving

just had to :P

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#16 DoomZaW
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ps3, xbox360 stop fighting in the back seat, the wii is driving

just had to :P

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You guys just take all the fun out of SW :P, just kidding, nice one :D

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#17 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="reyad-u"]I'm sure sales of 360 will jump once Reach launches. Not to mention all those owners of banned 360s will buy a new one.dream431ca

I'm pretty sure, Reach is going to have little to no impact on sales, as most people who want a Halo game, bought a 360 when Halo 3 came out.

I think odst might actually have a longterm negative impact on sales. I know a lot of people who felt like they got burned on that purchase after they finished it. Word of mouth spreads.

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#18 Racer850
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MS will lower the price if the PS3 starts to gain
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#19 reyad-u
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="reyad-u"]I'm sure sales of 360 will jump once Reach launches. Not to mention all those owners of banned 360s will buy a new one.topgunmv

I'm pretty sure, Reach is going to have little to no impact on sales, as most people who want a Halo game, bought a 360 when Halo 3 came out.

I think odst might actually have a longterm negative impact on sales. I know a lot of people who felt like they got burned on that purchase after they finished it. Word of mouth spreads.

You would think that sales would be poor because of the RROD, afterall word of mouth spreads.
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I'm sure sales of 360 will jump once Reach launches. Not to mention all those owners of banned 360s will buy a new one.reyad-u

I'm pretty sure, Reach is going to have little to no impact on sales, as most people who want a Halo game, bought a 360 when Halo 3 came out.

I think odst might actually have a longterm negative impact on sales. I know a lot of people who felt like they got burned on that purchase after they finished it. Word of mouth spreads.

There certainly wasn't much of an impact from the people "burned" by buying Halo 3.
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#21 Kashiwaba
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First: FFXIII is PS3 exclusive in Japan.
2nd: Japan is more than 20% of the WW market so no its not 10%.

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#22 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I'm pretty sure, Reach is going to have little to no impact on sales, as most people who want a Halo game, bought a 360 when Halo 3 came out.

SpiritOfFire117

I think odst might actually have a longterm negative impact on sales. I know a lot of people who felt like they got burned on that purchase after they finished it. Word of mouth spreads.

There certainly wasn't much of an impact from the people "burned" by buying Halo 3.

Because nobody felt burned buying halo 3.

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#23 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I'm pretty sure, Reach is going to have little to no impact on sales, as most people who want a Halo game, bought a 360 when Halo 3 came out.

reyad-u

I think odst might actually have a longterm negative impact on sales. I know a lot of people who felt like they got burned on that purchase after they finished it. Word of mouth spreads.

You would think that sales would be poor because of the RROD, afterall word of mouth spreads.

RROD is covered by a warranty. There's no get your money back if this game sucks clause.

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I didn't think it was possible for awhile. But the more I think about it, this seems likely. When Halo 3 arrived, a vast majority of people holding out on a 360 finally bought one. There aren't a lot of people waiting to buy a 360 now because the megahits have already released. Most people who wanted a Halo game bought a 360. Most people who wanted Gears of War got a 360. Most people who wanted the "big" racing sims Forza 2 and 3 bought a 360. Same with Mass Effect. There isn't really one huge title coming soon making people wait to buy a 360.

Now, with PS3, I'm sure a lot of people are holding out on buying one until GOW 3, FFXIII, GT5 release. Those games will be huge sellers and I bet there are a lot of people waiting on PS3 until those release. Yes, I know FFXIII is coming to 360 also, but in Japan you can bet the PS3 version will smoke 360 in sales and that PS3 sales will have a big increase as well.

2010 has games that will automatically make PS3 have a sales increase. The same does not appear to hold true for 360. I don't see a sales increase happening.

Natal needs to be a huge hit and Microsoft needs to lower the price of 360 again soon to maintain the lead. Otherwise, I think PS3 will surpass it.

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You are absolutly right.. If Black friday numbers are anything to go by it looks like the true fight now is between the PS3 and Wii, I think the PS3 will have a huge uphill battle to overtake the Wii in total worldwide sales.. I think the PS3 will continue to outsell the 360 for a very long time if not permanent.. I just dont see any catalyst that will drive 360 sales higher.. I mean the PS3 even put up a fight against the Wii selling only less than 90,000 units than the wii on black friday and the PS3 is $100.00 more expensive. I
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#25 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I think odst might actually have a longterm negative impact on sales. I know a lot of people who felt like they got burned on that purchase after they finished it. Word of mouth spreads.

There certainly wasn't much of an impact from the people "burned" by buying Halo 3.

Because nobody felt burned buying halo 3.

Nobody? And what about the camp that liked ODST? Word of mouth works in that direction as well.
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#26 Jake145222
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I highly doubt ps3 will pass the 360 in sales. 360 is still selling good. Its not like when that ps3 price drop happened zero 360's were selling. As long as they make a profit they are still in good shape.
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#27 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"] There certainly wasn't much of an impact from the people "burned" by buying Halo 3.SpiritOfFire117

Because nobody felt burned buying halo 3.

Nobody? And what about the camp that liked ODST? Word of mouth works in that direction as well.

Sorry, "most people". Would you like a mathematical formula and several citations to provide proof? I think the fact that a lot of places are offering odst for 40$ (along with forza3) is evidence enough that it isn't selling much past the initial release.

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#28 kolkov01
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I'm pretty sure, Reach is going to have little to no impact on sales, as most people who want a Halo game, bought a 360 when Halo 3 came out.

reyad-u

I think odst might actually have a longterm negative impact on sales. I know a lot of people who felt like they got burned on that purchase after they finished it. Word of mouth spreads.

You would think that sales would be poor because of the RROD, afterall word of mouth spreads.

well we have no idea just how much RROD has affected 360's sales
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#29 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Because nobody felt burned buying halo 3.

Nobody? And what about the camp that liked ODST? Word of mouth works in that direction as well.

Sorry, "most people". Would you like a mathematical formula and several citations to provide proof? I think the fact that a lot of places are offering odst for 40$ (along with forza3) is evidence enough that it isn't selling much past the initial release.

No I just need to pull up another thread. :P Then again I guess "burned" takes a new meaning in regards to price change rather than expectation so I see your point in that respect atleast.
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#30 SPYDER0416
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Natal is the last, best hope for the 360, if it doesn't succeed... lets just say the 360 will do a 180.

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#31 kyacat
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then 360 starts as 1st in this gen, but finish at the last place....

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Don't you mean the wii in first place
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#32 reyad-u
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

then 360 starts as 1st in this gen, but finish at the last place....

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Don't you mean the wii in first place

Well the 360 launched first so technically that was first for a while.
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#33 2mrw
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MS will lower the price if the PS3 starts to gainRacer850
i think you are right, and this is the only appropriate step imo...... but i think this will also have alittle effect, the customers are seeing the value of the PS3 now wz its new price which is very comparbable and in hands of almost everyone now.
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#34 PrimusGears
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at this point I cant take cows seriously. Does the PS3 have momentum? Yes, will it last eternally? No, its a back and forth battle and I suspect the 360 will have a price drop in 2010 and the momument will swing right back to the 360.

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#35 guardofdead
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ps3, xbox360 stop fighting in the back seat, the wii is driving

just had to :P

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haha, but i think its like this. "360, ps3 stop fighting in the back seat" says the Wii from the passenger seat. "ps2 is getting distracted from driving."
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#36 Swift_Boss_A
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I said it before and I'll say it again, 2010 is going to be really interesting in the sales wars. Too bad I'll be busy playing great games like GOW3, Yakuza 3, WKC, FF13, SSF4, The Last Guardian and GT5 to really give a damn about whose winning and losing. I guess one of you guys better PM me to get updated on the sales war.

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#37 Rikusaki
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I agree.Things are looking up for Sony, they've really come a long way since the ps3s launch_Cadbury_
Indeed. And this is just the beginning.
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#38 punkrocker163
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Im interested in seeing how high PS3 sales go when FF13 and GT5 is released in Japan and Europe respectively.
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#39 Shinobi120
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at this point I cant take cows seriously. Does the PS3 have momentum? Yes, will it last eternally? No, its a back and forth battle and I suspect the 360 will have a price drop in 2010 and the monument will swing right back to the 360.

PrimusGears

Exactly. Cows are getting all too cocky. Remember what happened when MGS 4 came out & that the PS3 kept outselling the 360 until MS came out with a price drop.

Ugh, & it gets even more worse here. Just read the comments coming mostly from PS3 fanboys.

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#40 IFBB-PRO
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so if 360 beats ps3 for 18 months in a row its no big deal but if p3 beats 360 for few months then its the end of 360 lol. lets just wait and see until 360 has another real price drop and until then losing out to ps3 by few thousand units every month is no big deal specially when they are up by millions.

Plus in couple of years it wont really matter who is winning since it will be about time for new console. The whole point of console war is usually the more console sells the more it makes sures developers making games for it. Not only 360 is selling and sold well but it has highest amount of game attach ratio which developers love.

Microsoft is making money on 360 =makes sures new console in future

Developers make lots of games 360 and make lots of money from 360 crowd = more great games in the future

developers love working on 360 since its easy console to make games for.

combine those 3 together and as a gamer you have nothign to worry about.

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#41 Megaman5364
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I thought Microsoft only made all their money from online????

Ps3 owns > everything anyways

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#42 gamedude234
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Yeah, like the ps3 will be first or second by millions:roll: if the ps3 does manage 2nd, it'll be by a very close margin.

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#43 rook2rook
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i think xbox will still sale well.
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#44 fifamessi
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Now, with PS3, I'm sure a lot of people are holding out on buying one until GOW 3, FFXIII, GT5 release. Those games will be huge sellers and I bet there are a lot of people waiting on PS3 until those release. Yes, I know FFXIII is coming to 360 also, but in Japan you can bet the PS3 version will smoke 360 in sales and that PS3 sales will have a big increase as well.

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yep, exactly, i know 4 people just in my class waiting for one of those 3 games to get a ps3. FFXIII will be insane selling machine especially in japan. GOW will be huge. and GT5, dont really need to explain.

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#45 lhughey
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The PS3 started selling well in response to a price drop. The same for the Wii. The 360 is next up for a healthy price drop, then comes Natal.
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#46 mr-krinkles
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TC had most of the factors, but there are others, too.

1. Project Natal. If that takes off, then 360 is gonna fly far ahead of PS3.

2. M$'s marketing machine. They're gonna go insane with it, especially whe Natal launches.

3. Price wars. We all know that, apart from the Arcade, 360's prices are way inflated (the hard drives, etc.). MS can afford to put the price of even their "Elite" packages WAY below PS3, and they would if need be.

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#47 James161324
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Let me add to the last posts.

plus the amazing year of games the 360 going to have.

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#48 PAL360
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Sony fanboys are acting like 360 is not selling at all. This is not the first time PS3 outsell the 360 and i remember cows claiming that 360 was doomed during 08. What happened next? 360 outsold PS3 for about 10 monthes. Im not saying it will happen again, but was pretty obvious that with a price drop, PS3 would gain some momentum. I still find fantastic that after PS3´s price drop 360 is still selling almost as good!

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I didn't think it was possible for awhile. But the more I think about it, this seems likely. When Halo 3 arrived, a vast majority of people holding out on a 360 finally bought one. There aren't a lot of people waiting to buy a 360 now because the megahits have already released. Most people who wanted a Halo game bought a 360. Most people who wanted Gears of War got a 360. Most people who wanted the "big" racing sims Forza 2 and 3 bought a 360. Same with Mass Effect. There isn't really one huge title coming soon making people wait to buy a 360.

Now, with PS3, I'm sure a lot of people are holding out on buying one until GOW 3, FFXIII, GT5 release. Those games will be huge sellers and I bet there are a lot of people waiting on PS3 until those release. Yes, I know FFXIII is coming to 360 also, but in Japan you can bet the PS3 version will smoke 360 in sales and that PS3 sales will have a big increase as well.

2010 has games that will automatically make PS3 have a sales increase. The same does not appear to hold true for 360. I don't see a sales increase happening.

Natal needs to be a huge hit and Microsoft needs to lower the price of 360 again soon to maintain the lead. Otherwise, I think PS3 will surpass it.

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#50 planbfreak4eva
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I'm sure sales of 360 will jump once Reach launches. Not to mention all those owners of banned 360s will buy a new one.reyad-u
reach will effect slightly, and those 1million banned, what makes u so sure they will buy another 360 and not a ps3?