PS3 motions controls are more practical and hardcore than Natal..

After researching both natal and PS3 motion controls coming out and watching multiple vids.. The PS3 motion controls definitley seem more practical and more made for Hardcore gamers.. I could totally see using the PS3 motion controls for shooters and action games especially like God of war 3.. Even though its motion controls its not something that will tire you out after 15 minutes of play unlike Natal which looks like a majority of the games will require full body movement..

I can see clearly how PS3 motion controls would work for shooters and adventure games but Natal just doesnt look like it would work whatsoever for shooters and more hardcore games.. And I also dont care for the idea of another add on to add to my clutter of electronics where my consoles are.. honestly the Natal attachment just seems kind of big and looks like it would take up good space. I say overall if your a Wii casual gamer then natal is for you.. if you want cool motion controls but want to stay true to more hardcore games then PS3 motion controls is where its at.

The use of the phrase "motion control", and "hardcore" in one sentence is an oxymoron.

Edit- Also, Natal was never designed for the "hardcore" action-adventure, and shooter genres. It was designed for more simple things, such as arcade games, racers (not simulation, like Forza or GT), and most important of all fighting games. I can't imagine Natal being used for anything except a good unrealistic cartoon racer, or martial arts game.

Also, the motion control is not just the only feature. It also includes items that can be used in normal games, such as scanning and voice recognition. Imagine giving call-outs to other players in a tactical shooter, or NFL game. People do not need to wear a headset also when using Natal.

I know right now RE5:Alternative edition is a PSWand exclusive.

I don't care about Natal or Wand, but in practice, having a wand is better, using my memories of my Wii vs. Eyetoy.

That being said, it will come down to Marketing and Exclusive game support. We will have to see.

The PS3 for instance is only a great console, because it has software for users to see it's greatness. If the PS3 had no games, it would be useless. Same for Wii and 360.

Natal and PSWand will come down to the users and push and games.

"Practical?" Maybe, if at all. "More hardcore?" Oh lord, please don't start this.

The use of the phrase "motion control", and "hardcore" in one sentence is an oxymoron.

siddhu33

Both will be ****

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The use of the phrase "motion control", and "hardcore" in one sentence is an oxymoron.

Kennysolidsnake

Yes, it would be great, but items such as movement in 3D-Space will need a d-pad/analog stick. Also, many gamers are gymnasts in their wrists, not their arms.

We all know why these products are being released. It's not just for more types of games. It's to get parents who think about what to get their kids for Christmas/Birthday to consider alternative games consoles than the Wii (Which we all know is aimed mainly at the "casual" demographic).

I know right now RE5:Alternative edition is a PSWand exclusive.

I don't care about Natal or Wand, but in practice, having a wand is better, using my memories of my Wii vs. Eyetoy.

That being said, it will come down to Marketing and Exclusive game support. We will have to see.

The PS3 for instance is only a great console, because it has software for users to see it's greatness. If the PS3 had no games, it would be useless. Same for Wii and 360.

Natal and PSWand will come down to the users and push and games.

SolidTy

I don't know how well a push the PSWand will actually get (looking at Sony's marketing push, and quotes from their PR team), but I am sure that Microsoft will spend more money to feed a continent on natal.

The only thing that I am really worried about, is the "PSP Scenario", where spin-off's are created which are arguably worse than their original games (With Exception of GoW- Chains of Olympus and GTA- Chinatows Wars).

I guess we will have to see.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

The use of the phrase "motion control", and "hardcore" in one sentence is an oxymoron.

Kennysolidsnake

Was it pressing buttons that made those games great in the first place, or was it the actual game? Motion controls take the focus out of the game and put them on the controls. And ultimately, they're just going to be dumbed down for motion. It's not beneficial.

The amount of people that talk about the upcoming motion devices by Sony and Microsoft as if they had already played them never ceases to amaze me. I say we wait for their release before stating how one is better or more practical than the other.

Noting beats the light gun and power glove from the NES :P

The wand + camera is a decent idea, with a lot of flexibility to bend into diffent genre needs. Problem is, I've never seen Sony put a lot of support behind any alternative controller they have released before, and I don't think this will be any different.

NATAL may not be as well suited to play all genres equally well, but I can definitely see MS putting a ton of support behind it.

Both are too expensive, too impractical and too late imo.

But I thought motion controls were casual related? Oh dear, is this a special exemption?

Uhm. I can see the logic behind that statement (RE5 EE > whatever Natal has showed until this point), but we still need to wait and see what kind and how much support each one get.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

The use of the phrase "motion control", and "hardcore" in one sentence is an oxymoron.

Kennysolidsnake

Ps3 motion controls aren't unique they are done via software instead of the body, its 2 wands that are tracked, this can be done on natal *and done better*

The use of the phrase "motion control", and "hardcore" in one sentence is an oxymoron.

siddhu33

Agreed.

Edit- Also, Natal was never designed for the "hardcore" action-adventure, and shooter genres. It was designed for more simple things, such as arcade games, racers (not simulation, like Forza or GT), and most important of all fighting games. I can't imagine Natal being used for anything except a good unrealistic cartoon racer, or martial arts game.

Also, the motion control is not just the only feature. It also includes items that can be used in normal games, such as scanning and voice recognition. Imagine giving call-outs to other players in a tactical shooter, or NFL game. People do not need to wear a headset also when using Natal.

siddhu33

Double agreed. I can't imagine something like Natal being comprehensive and responsive enough to be able to play more fast-paced, unforgiving games.

I never thought I would see the day that the words "hardcore" and "motion control" are in the same sentence.

Im more interested in Natal because it requires no use of a d***o looking peripheral, If I wanted that I'd just get a wii :|

After researching both natal and PS3 motion controls coming out and watching multiple vids.. The PS3 motion controls definitley seem more practical and more made for Hardcore gamers.. I could totally see using the PS3 motion controls for shooters and action games especially like God of war 3.. Even though its motion controls its not something that will tire you out after 15 minutes of play unlike Natal which looks like a majority of the games will require full body movement..

I can see clearly how PS3 motion controls would work for shooters and adventure games but Natal just doesnt look like it would work whatsoever for shooters and more hardcore games.. And I also dont care for the idea of another add on to add to my clutter of electronics where my consoles are.. honestly the Natal attachment just seems kind of big and looks like it would take up good space. I say overall if your a Wii casual gamer then natal is for you.. if you want cool motion controls but want to stay true to more hardcore games then PS3 motion controls is where its at.

Both are too expensive, too impractical and too late imo.

KungfuKitten

I don't think we have a price on either yet, do we?

This>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Natal and Balls-on-a-stick

true, i've been using motion controls on warhawk and hawx

Im more interested in Natal because it requires no use of a d***o looking peripheral, If I wanted that I'd just get a wii :|

scarface_dm

lol we are not discussing the wii

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Im more interested in Natal because it requires no use of a d***o looking peripheral, If I wanted that I'd just get a wii :|

sk8erPWNZOR

lol we are not discussing the wii

Neither is he, he's saying if he wants a controller like the wii, he'd just get a controller, or basicly NATAL not having a controller > pswand which is a d***o with a light up head.