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#1 dilmos
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I am obvously a huge fan of the Wii.  I have also owned at one time or another all PS's and both Xbox's.

Now the question I am wondering is this:

How come PS3 fanboys only compare themselves to the 360, and never bring up the Wii??

It is painfully obvious that the Wii is kicking and taking, so I think, since they can't argue numbers, they would rather just argue graphics and features with a system that is more expensive than the Wii, namely their arch rival 360.

So just to make it fair, I was wondering if some of the PS3 fanboys can tell me why you choose not to compare yourselves to the system that came out about the same time and is outselling your system 4-1?

Do you accept the fact the gameplay>graphics and avoid the truth, or are you just trying to justify a $600 dvd player?  Tell me, if you can, why you do not think the Wii is a real gaming console?

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I've seen three reasons People fear the Wii (I did not make that up, I've seen it said.) The graphics whores who can't stand simple fun The three minigame compilations on the Wii represent the WHOLE library to them.
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#3 Teuf_
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 Nintendo themselves said that the Wii isn't supposed to compete with the 360 and the PS3, didn't they?  So why should we compare them? :?
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#4 DrCoCoPiMp
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Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?
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#5 game_masta14
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Because half of the time 360 fanboys compare PS3 games to theirs and it wouldn't be a fair comparison to compare PS3 games to Wii games. It's like comparing GeoW to Resistance which is stupid on so many different levels. The only Wii to PS3 game comparison I can make is Excite Truck to Motorstorm but thats it.
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#6 Solid-CELL
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lol...your post reminds me of when i traded my Wii for a 360.

and to answer your question....umm actually...Nintendo answered it for ya a long time ago....the Wii is being targeted to a different audience than the 360 and Ps3...sorry dude...loneliness in system wars must suck

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#7 Flame1
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 the wii is more of a less deep, small game console.
the ps3 and 360 are going in another direction.
besides most people are either getting the wii in ADDITION to one of the other 2.

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Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?DrCoCoPiMp


Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.
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I am obvously a huge fan of the Wii. I have also owned at one time or another all PS's and both Xbox's.

Now the question I am wondering is this:

How come PS3 fanboys only compare themselves to the 360, and never bring up the Wii??

It is painfully obvious that the Wii is kicking and taking, so I think, since they can't argue numbers, they would rather just argue graphics and features with a system that is more expensive than the Wii, namely their arch rival 360.

So just to make it fair, I was wondering if some of the PS3 fanboys can tell me why you choose not to compare yourselves to the system that came out about the same time and is outselling your system 4-1?

Do you accept the fact the gameplay>graphics and avoid the truth, or are you just trying to justify a $600 dvd player? Tell me, if you can, why you do not think the Wii is a real gaming console?

dilmos
because last gen graphics are not all that interesting to talk about... and great console sale numbers have nothing to do with a console being good.
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#10 Sgt_Hale
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Not many people take the Wii seriously as a next gen console and no one is really threatened by it. It's cool for people that don't have hdtv's yet I suppose, but most ppl will have at least one hdtv by 2009 b/c the prices will be comparable to regular t.v.'s today within another year or so... By that time even most wii owners will have at least one of the other consoles. That's why those are the two consoles that are compared to each other.
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[QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?MaxxxReebo


Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.
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Why? Because cows and lemmings don't see wii as a threat. Well lemmings do, they're just scared so instead they pick on whatever is weakest at the moment(PS3).
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#13 2largeadults
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No one said the Wii isn't a real gaming console. It isn't a real next-gen gaming console. I wanted high definition graphics and I bought the two consoles that could provide that for me. I leave it to the kids to play motion-activated, graphically-inadequate games.
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[QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?Sgt_Hale


Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.



Only because most haven't played the games yet. There's a few real gems in the library so far. And as time goes on and the sales rack up, support only grows.
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?MaxxxReebo


Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.



Only because most haven't played the games yet. There's a few real gems in the library so far. And as time goes on and the sales rack up, support only grows.



Oh come on. You can't really say the Wii has been getting AAA-quality third-party support lately. It's been getting mostly PS2 ports and games with graphics worse than the GameCube.
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For 2 reasons. First the Wii is not in direct competition like the 360 and PS3 are. The Wii is being targeted almost purely to casuals with all its minigame based games and extremely simple games (not to say it doesn't have complex games). Much like the DS, Nintendo has been putting more effort into attracting non gamers. Second is that until the Wii proves it has staying power I don't think it can compete with the 360 and PS3 in the long run. I see the Wii much like 3D movies, when they first came out they were seen as revolutionary and were extremely popular but now 3D movies are relegated to imax movies at museums and the odd disney movie.
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#17 xboxshenron
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the wii to me seems like a Gamecube with motion sensing, nothing more
no new better graphics, nothing new to bring
PS3 and 360 is where the next generation is really at
the Wii may be hot right now, but come 2008, people will start to see that they are paying 250 dollars for a system that is just a Gamecube with motion sensing that cant even play DVDs
the winner of this war is going to be between 360 and PS3
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I am obvously a huge fan of the Wii. I have also owned at one time or another all PS's and both Xbox's.

Now the question I am wondering is this:

How come PS3 fanboys only compare themselves to the 360, and never bring up the Wii??

It is painfully obvious that the Wii is kicking and taking, so I think, since they can't argue numbers, they would rather just argue graphics and features with a system that is more expensive than the Wii, namely their arch rival 360.

So just to make it fair, I was wondering if some of the PS3 fanboys can tell me why you choose not to compare yourselves to the system that came out about the same time and is outselling your system 4-1?

Do you accept the fact the gameplay>graphics and avoid the truth, or are you just trying to justify a $600 dvd player? Tell me, if you can, why you do not think the Wii is a real gaming console?

dilmos
Because whenever a game is compared it always turns into a big mess. Cows say the graphics are better on the PS3 and the sheep say the gameplay will be better on the Wii (Which is not a given lately). It's also not a question of just graphics and gameplay (Which again can be better on the PS3). What about physics, ai, downloadable content, and audio? So then we get into the Wii is less expensive. Yes, it is less expensive but also hindered in many ways. You get what you pay for. So in conclusion, the Wii is great for a lot of people but not everyone.
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[QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?Teufelhuhn


Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.



Only because most haven't played the games yet. There's a few real gems in the library so far. And as time goes on and the sales rack up, support only grows.



Oh come on. You can't really say the Wii has been getting AAA-quality third-party support lately. It's been getting mostly PS2 ports and games with graphics worse than the GameCube.



Honest question: If a game is not a AAA title, does it cease to be fun?

I sincerely hope you answered "No" to that. That being said, some of the games on Wii are unexpectedly fun. Elebits, WiiSports, Rayman, Sonic... these aren't AAA titles, but they're just fun and kind of came out of no where.
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Because Nintendo even said the Wii is not meant to be compared
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As a Wii owner I see why they're not compared. While they are direct competition in the simplest of descriptions (despite what Nintendo states), they really don't offer (at this time) the same style of gaming experience.

PS3 and Xbox 360 are a really good comparison game style wise.

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#22 Giancar
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Wii isn´t in the same league as the ps3 or 360.... Selling like crazy, yes...but not my cup of tea...
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#23 dilmos
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So the basic answers I get are:

1. Graphics

2. Sells numbers don't count

3. Doesn't matter

Wii, 360, & PS3 are all 3 consoles. PERIOD.

Wii is selling more, 360 has more games, and PS3 can not stand to be in last place after a few years on top.  That is the bottom line.  360 should not be in this comparison because it has been out for over a year, but instead of slashing out at the real competition, you ignore the Wii, and dream up new ways to compare yourself to the 360.

I owned a PS3, and could not justify it's pricetag or it's hype.  The Wii at $250 is now and will remain the more "fun" of the 2.  360 will always be ahead of the game because of the headstart it had, and PS3 will now remain in 3rd because of it's companies opinions of it's customers.  BluRay will not carry this system, and it will go the same route as the laser disc.  Normal everyday people will keep Nintendo on top, while sony pushes another proprietery format (UMD) down the throats of people who can't afford it.  PS2 was brilliant.  Why not concentrate on making the video game player happy?  That is what I think Nintendo is trying and succeeding at doing.  Take note Sony.  Put out a version of the PS3 that doesn't have BluRay, and cut the price.

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As soon as I saw your sig, I decided not to read the fanboy rubbish.
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I've seen three reasons People fear the Wii (I did not make that up, I've seen it said.) The graphics whores who can't stand simple fun The three minigame compilations on the Wii represent the WHOLE library to them.ShakeNBake1491

So ignorance than basically? Yep, thought so.

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I don't pick on Nintendo for the sole fact that I respect them. They are a great company. I ever only owned 2 Nintendo systems. GBA and NES. I really like the GBA... But there is like no games for it that I like.

NES... The best 8 bit system... But they always broke from the way the cartridge was loaded.

I must have gone through 4-5 NES's back in the day.

But I don't hold it against Nintendo. I have had alot of fun... In the end, thats what really matters.

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is outselling your system 4-1? Do you accept the fact the gameplay>graphics and avoid the truth, or are you just trying to justify a $600 dvd player?dilmos
Probably that.
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[QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?Teufelhuhn


Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.



Only because most haven't played the games yet. There's a few real gems in the library so far. And as time goes on and the sales rack up, support only grows.



Oh come on. You can't really say the Wii has been getting AAA-quality third-party support lately. It's been getting mostly PS2 ports and games with graphics worse than the GameCube.

One question (and im not having a go) how many of these games have YOU played? Have you ever looked through the list of Wii games present and future to actually check if there are any you like? A lot of people dont do this, but it does help. I did this a little while ago with all three consoles, and, surprisingly, it was the Wii I wanted the most games for. Followed by the 360 and then the PS3. So all this nonsense about not having AAA quality titles means nothing really, its all subjective opinion. Im not denying there have been games that are below par, but people seem to think that 3rd party support is a bad thing? Its getting as much 3rd party support as the PS2 probably.

The funny thing  is fanboys label it a casuals and non-gamers only console, yet the PS2 was a "casual console" just as much as the Wii is and nearly EVERYONE who labels themselves a hardcore gamer bought one.......

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[QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?Sgt_Hale


Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.

Shouldnt be long till everyone is jealous of the Wii if not already. Its a small example but take Godfather for instance as the Wii version is more liked thanks to its controls even though the PS3 version of course has better visuals.
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Actually, I announced my fanism in the very first sentence.  But I do own a 360 and owned a PS3 for about 1 week.
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?Quofan



Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.



Only because most haven't played the games yet. There's a few real gems in the library so far. And as time goes on and the sales rack up, support only grows.



Oh come on. You can't really say the Wii has been getting AAA-quality third-party support lately. It's been getting mostly PS2 ports and games with graphics worse than the GameCube.

One question (and im not having a go) how many of these games have YOU played? Have you ever looked through the list of Wii games present and future to actually check if there are any you like? A lot of people dont do this, but it does help. I did this a little while ago with all three consoles, and, surprisingly, it was the Wii I wanted the most games for. Followed by the 360 and then the PS3. So all this nonsense about not having AAA quality titles means nothing really, its all subjective opinion. Im not denying there have been games that are below par, but people seem to think that 3rd party support is a bad thing? Its getting as much 3rd party support as the PS2 probably.

The funny thing  is fanboys label it a casuals and non-gamers only console, yet the PS2 was a "casual console" just as much as the Wii is and nearly EVERYONE who labels themselves a hardcore gamer bought one.......

I would consider myself a hardcore gamer because I have owned EVERY system since Atari before it had a number by it. Video Games are Video Games.
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Actually, I announced my fanism in the very first sentence. But I do own a 360 and owned a PS3 for about 1 week.dilmos
Why a week?
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ps3/360-hardcore, wii-casual & kids
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="MaxxxReebo"][QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"]Why comparing the PS3 to a kiddy console?Quofan



Well, the kiddy console DOES have the larger user base, bigger market share, broader audience, and larger catalog of games with more support from 3rd party developers than the Monolith... so, you're right. It's not fair to the PS3 to compare them.

Throw the word "kiddy" around all you like... because it doesn't change anything.

You're correct on everything except the third party support... which is another reason lems & cows down't make a huge fuss over the Wii. No one is really jealous of the games it's getting.



Only because most haven't played the games yet. There's a few real gems in the library so far. And as time goes on and the sales rack up, support only grows.



Oh come on. You can't really say the Wii has been getting AAA-quality third-party support lately. It's been getting mostly PS2 ports and games with graphics worse than the GameCube.

One question (and im not having a go) how many of these games have YOU played? Have you ever looked through the list of Wii games present and future to actually check if there are any you like? A lot of people dont do this, but it does help. I did this a little while ago with all three consoles, and, surprisingly, it was the Wii I wanted the most games for. Followed by the 360 and then the PS3. So all this nonsense about not having AAA quality titles means nothing really, its all subjective opinion. Im not denying there have been games that are below par, but people seem to think that 3rd party support is a bad thing? Its getting as much 3rd party support as the PS2 probably.

The funny thing  is fanboys label it a casuals and non-gamers only console, yet the PS2 was a "casual console" just as much as the Wii is and nearly EVERYONE who labels themselves a hardcore gamer bought one.......

I myself have a PS2 and patiently waiting to jump on the PS3 and the one thing I don't understand is why people think it's a casual console and the wii has as much support. If anything, Wii has no where NEAR as much third party support as the PS2 so even you couldn't say that considering hte hundreds of games by many different companies. Secondly, the PS2 is NOT a causal/fan boy's only console like the Wii. The PS3 was for EVERYONE. It had games for adults only and games with deep stories that most non-gamers wouldn't bother getting because it looks like it'd take too long to beat. But at the same time it also had kiddie/simple games that nongamers would probuably find more appealing.
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I am obvously a huge fan of the Wii. I have also owned at one time or another all PS's and both Xbox's.

Now the question I am wondering is this:

How come PS3 fanboys only compare themselves to the 360, and never bring up the Wii??

It is painfully obvious that the Wii is kicking and taking, so I think, since they can't argue numbers, they would rather just argue graphics and features with a system that is more expensive than the Wii, namely their arch rival 360.

So just to make it fair, I was wondering if some of the PS3 fanboys can tell me why you choose not to compare yourselves to the system that came out about the same time and is outselling your system 4-1?

Do you accept the fact the gameplay>graphics and avoid the truth, or are you just trying to justify a $600 dvd player? Tell me, if you can, why you do not think the Wii is a real gaming console?

dilmos


What does graphics have to do with gameplay?
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#36 Ravens1995
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the wii to me is a good sytem it has some good games for it.but i don't like fruity games i like shotters and things IMO wii has too much fruty games and needs
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#37 Hman321
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theres nothing to compare
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#38 e20Dylan
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i have a ps3 and i love it more then anything itself and ill never own another xbox again. and hes right people only bring up the xbox or ps3 thing when the wii is winning. but id rather own a wii then a 360 anyday and ill never bash a wii but there is many ways i can bash xbox 360 after working for them. machine is trash

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#39 e20Dylan
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it mainly comes down to the ps3 owners to have to defend the machine that will soon be better then worthless 360 machine. bash now get owned later.
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#40 Erikwutaguy
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Because it is like comparing apples and oranges. Two different things.