PS3 OWNERS!!!! Are you getting Playstation move?

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

Does the Nav sudport 3D mapping, i mean can you emulate holding a shield and sword witha stick and Nav, or do you need two sticks like we saw in many demos ?

mysterj

But can it do depth mapping ?

If it did, why is the Move stick and the camera to track it even needed at all ?

Right now no. Just can't justify paying all that extra money for motion contols. I never bought the Wii Motion Plus for the Wii as the games I have bought don't use it at all. Unless I see a game I really want that the contols are implemented well I don't see me even thinking about it.

[QUOTE="mysterj"][QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

Does the Nav sudport 3D mapping, i mean can you emulate holding a shield and sword witha stick and Nav, or do you need two sticks like we saw in many demos ?

a_simple_gamer

But can it do depth mapping ?

If it did, why is the Move stick and the camera to track it even needed at all ?

Alex Evans from Media Molecule did this as a "free time" project in 2007 and posted it on the Mm blog.

I might since it's a proven concept and Sony seems to be going for more than just shovelware. I shall have to try it first though and it's going to need to impress me.

Otherwise, I'll file it in my fail cabinet along with Kinect.

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="mysterj"] The shield thing works, basically everything that's done on the wii can be done on Move.shinrabanshou

But can it do depth mapping ?

If it did, why is the Move stick and the camera to track it even needed at all ?

Alex Evans from Media Molecule did this as a "free time" project in 2007 and posted it on the Mm blog.

Then why Kinect is the only one that does full 3D body mapping ?

Yes eventually. I've enjoyed some Wii games, so I already know that kind of control system can work well. It will be great being able to experience it with the PS3.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

But can it do depth mapping ?

If it did, why is the Move stick and the camera to track it even needed at all ?

a_simple_gamer

Alex Evans from Media Molecule did this as a "free time" project in 2007 and posted it on the Mm blog.

Then why Kinect is the only one that does full 3D body mapping ?

The fact that PSEye doesn't do depth mapping doesn't mean that Kinect isn't simply an improved iteration of an old idea.

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

Then why Kinect is the only one that does full 3D body mapping ?

shinrabanshou

The fact that PSEye doesn't do depth mapping doesn't mean that Kinect isn't simply an improved iteration of an old idea.

You can use a controller with Kinect and still have full 3D body mapping

Exactly as you can use a PS3 controller (or Nav) with Move, only in Move case you dont get full 3D body mapping or multiple gamer support

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

Then why Kinect is the only one that does full 3D body mapping ?

a_simple_gamer

The fact that PSEye doesn't do depth mapping doesn't mean that Kinect isn't simply an improved iteration of an old idea.

You can use a controller with Kinect and still have full 3D body mapping

Exactly as you can use a PS3 controller (or Nav) with Move, only in Move case you dont get full 3D body mapping or multiple gamer support

The PSEye and Move can map an upper body in 3D, which will likely suffice for most games anyway. Particularly those that are "sitting compatible" because its, you know, sitting compatible and all.

They can both support "multiple gamers."

Except Move can support 4 active players. Kinect can only support 2 active players.

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]Because neither Nintendo nor Sony decided to go that route. Because having no controller has inherent limitations. Because it's unnecessary for the type of software that's been shown for any motion control game so far.

The fact that PSEye doesn't do depth mapping doesn't mean that Kinect isn't simply an improved iteration of an old idea.

shinrabanshou

You can use a controller with Kinect and still have full 3D body mapping

Exactly as you can use a PS3 controller (or Nav) with Move, only in Move case you dont get full 3D body mapping or multiple gamer support

The PSEye and Move can map an upper body in 3D, which will likely suffice for most games anyway. Particularly those that are "sitting compatible" because its, you know, sitting compatible and all.

They can both support "multiple gamers."

Except Move can support 4 active players. Kinect can only support 2 active players.

You mean Move does not work then?

Because Move uses the controller instead of Nav if you want

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/16/move-navigation-controller-can-be-replaced-by-dualshock/

Move cant map the body in 3D, can only map the Move stick in 3D, meaning you will need two sticks to map two hands (as shown in many many move videos) and will still not map your true motion, just the move sticks

Kinect can map your exact motion for the whole body in full 3D and without holding anything, and still can use the controller in one hand for movement

You mean Move does not work then?

Because Move uses the controller instead of Nav if you want

a_simple_gamer

You can use the left side of the DS3 in place of the Navigational controller, but it will be cumbersome.

Using the left side of the 360 pad will be equally cumbersome and induce lateral dissonance if one is trying to avoid initiating motion control on the left side of the body.

Nice sidestep on your whole repeated lying thing with the 3D mapping for 6 players, though.

[QUOTE="a_simple_gamer"]

You mean Move does not work then?

Because Move uses the controller instead of Nav if you want

shinrabanshou

You can use the left side of the DS3 in place of the Navigational controller, but it will be cumbersome.

Using the left side of the 360 pad will be equally cumbersome and induce lateral dissonance if one is trying to avoid initiating motion control on the left side of the body.

You see a problem, i dont

The only fact here is that Sony themselves confirmed you may use a pad in the left hand

So, i will just do the same with Kinect

I dont see any problem too, i can easilyl hold 360 pad in left hand myself and it is sure better than holding a pad AND a Move stick with PS3

I probably will get move, but I will definitely will not get Kinect.

probably yea, i liked the idea of the Wii but i found no games that interest me on the Wii, PSMove is gonna solve that problem i guess.

thejakel11225

Yea, until now. stil, I was just was so excited for what I though would be total motion control but that was not the case. And why did it take Nintendo so long for Wii Plus. They should have come out with that 2 years ago. Sony already had it out so its nothing new.

SO now Games will be Wii and PS3, then Xbox 360 and PS3. I just hope the years Sony spent on developing this pays off. Seems like there are still some problems with it. They could add something that better tracks movement ... I know it will add more money to an already expensive device but better to get it right and have people save than not. maybe like Wii motion plus it will come out later.

Not planning on it.

I can see it being popular with girls, and they using it for motion controls. :roll: