PS3 "Closest" To Expressing Square Enix's Vision

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#1 mohammadnb
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Look what Square Enix character creator Tetsuya Nomura say :

" t's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination. "

Big Shock

that prove FFXIII will be exclusive for PS3

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-47867.aspx

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#2 Stonin
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Look what Square Enix character creator Tetsuya Nomura say :

" t's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination. "

Big Shock

that prove FFXIII will be exclusive for PS3

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-47867.aspx

mohammadnb

Yeah big shock, another guy working on the PS3 says the PS3 is the greatest. It's almost as if his job depends on it or something :roll:.

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#3 karicha9
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Don't they mean "it's about how much FMV we can put in a game"?
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#4 Stonin
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Don't they mean "it's about how much FMV we can put in a game"?karicha9

I lol'd.

Also, isn't this the same company that only yesterday were talking about how it would be possible to port FFXIII if they wanted to? Wish these devs would get their facts straight ;).

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[QUOTE="karicha9"]Don't they mean "it's about how much FMV we can put in a game"?Stonin

I lol'd.

Also, isn't this the same company that only yesterday were talking about how it would be possible to port FFXIII if they wanted to? Wish these devs would get their facts straight ;).

"Final Fantasy XIII" may refer to the game FFXIII or the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.

I think the series will expand to other platforms, but the game FFXIII (and Versus XIII) will remain exclusive to PS3.

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#6 Kinitari
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Geez people get angry at dev's when they -barely- praise the Ps3.
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#7 S1xSh0t
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this is getting boring
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#8 Blue-Sky
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I can almost garuantee you that Tetsuya Nomura has never touched a 360 dev kit. My point? Developer quotes are worth a grain of salt for exclusive games, because every characteristic of that title is designed for one platform.

Now, when a dev single outs one platform for a multiplatform game....

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Look what Square Enix character creator Tetsuya Nomura say :

" t's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination. "

Big Shock

that prove FFXIII will be exclusive for PS3

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-47867.aspx

mohammadnb

Nomura's overrated. He'll always live in the shadow of Amano, and he'll never reach the same levels of acclaim as his predecessor.

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#10 Bread_or_Decide
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Ummm..wow bashing SE and FFXIII. This Sony hate is getting out of hand. Its like your not even allowed to like the PS3. Good grief get a life people.
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#11 Elviathan
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Sony probably paid them to say that.
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#12 -MoOkS-
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Read between the lines. What they are actually saying is that ps3 is the most powerful console and no other console can come close to what they invision ( especially the 360 )
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#13 Kinitari
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Ummm..wow bashing SE and FFXIII. This Sony hate is getting out of hand. Its like your not even allowed to like the PS3. Good grief get a life people.Bread_or_Decide

I'm saying.

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#14 akif22
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Don't they mean "it's about how much FMV we can put in a game"?karicha9

lol, yeah

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#15 choasgod
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Please Please Please ...

Tetsuya Noruma is talking about Final Fantasy Verses XIII and the character designs in FInal Fantasy XIII as those are the projects he is involved in at the moment.

I also believe this is more of an indictator as to where Kingdom Hearts 3 will go ... i mean Tetsuya Noruma LOVES the PS3 and i do believe that he will choose a platform which he thinks is seperior to the competiton and one he has experience with when creating KH3 !


EDIT: Ohh yea note how he says its not just about graphics but stuff like movement - well that my friends means he loves the CELL ...
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#16 TDLlama
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Didn't the CEO of SquareEnix bash the 360 and PS3 about having "too many specs" and needing "a deep knowledge of gaming?" It seems there's a difference of opinion even within SE.
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#17 smarties00
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So where are the games? 2008?
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#18 Riki101
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t's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination COUGH HARCH ARHC how come xbox was closer then ps2 wow *** developers FTL
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Don't they mean "it's about how much FMV we can put in a game"?karicha9
Rofl,its about time some one filled those 60 gigs full of worthless hd videos
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Is it really that much of a surprise? Square loves those bloated production costs.
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#21 NobuoMusicMaker
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Let's get this straight.

SquareEnix devs loves PS3.

SquareEnix head hates PS3 because he's a tool.

Wada has no credibility forcing his devs to work on systems they don't want to.

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Translation: Our imaginations are limited, as our brains are tiny at Square Enix.

Look, this isn't a PS3 bash, as far as I am concerned I hope the PS3 does well, gets good games etc. I may buy one in the future.

But this is a bash of some self-indulgent turd weasel with too much personal angst or some such thing. Do turds like this even think about what they are saying?

The PS3 is the machine closest to being able to express our imagination? What shlock. Or what a pitiful imagination. Take the PS3 and add a better GPU...would that be better to express his imagination? Who doesn't think that PS4 would be better than PS3. That next months Cell2 would be better than this months Cell. Does anyone not believe that high end PC gaming platforms are as good or better than the PS3? And if you don't think so, are you naive enough to believe that PCs won't surpass the PS3 in 6 months, or a year, or, etc.

So is this turds imagination limited to the next six months? Does he have too much personal creative angst keeping him up at night? Or should he simply head to the john to take a large dump? Wherein he might find his next brilliant statement to make.

Again, this post isn't aimed at Sony, or the PS3. It's aimed at aself indulgent turd. You can find them everywhere.

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Ummm..wow bashing SE and FFXIII. This Sony hate is getting out of hand. Its like your not even allowed to like the PS3. Good grief get a life people.Bread_or_Decide

Lol, this is really funny.

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Square-Enix is annoying... they like to flip flop. One minute innovation is their vision, and they support Nintendo, next minute they are supporting the "mighty" PS3.
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Someone has a wet nose...
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#26 Eddie-Vedder
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LOL at lemmings every single dev(and there have been a lot of them) have said the ps3 is a better console and they always say somehting like right hes credible... Take a hint guys...
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#27 Rosencrantz
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[QUOTE="mohammadnb"]

Look what Square Enix character creator Tetsuya Nomura say :

" t's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination. "

Big Shock

that prove FFXIII will be exclusive for PS3

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-47867.aspx

Stonin

Yeah big shock, another guy working on the PS3 says the PS3 is the greatest. It's almost as if his job depends on it or something :roll:.

His job doesn't depend on it. Squarenix is their own company and are making games for all three consoles.

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#28 ni6htmare01
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All these SE bashing will not happened if they say OMG MS360 is teh1337 !!1111!!!!
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#29 Vandalvideo
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SE's dream is selling to the least common denominator? They sure are strange.
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#30 AtomicLightbulb
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You shouldn't say "Square Enix's" Vision - you should mention the specific developer. Let's recall that but a few days ago, the President of Square Enix was hialing the Wii as "teh pwnzer.''
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#31 Redfingers
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Translation: Our imaginations are limited, as our brains are tiny at Square Enix.

Look, this isn't a PS3 bash, as far as I am concerned I hope the PS3 does well, gets good games etc. I may buy one in the future.

But this is a bash of some self-indulgent turd weasel with too much personal angst or some such thing. Do turds like this even think about what they are saying?

The PS3 is the machine closest to being able to express our imagination? What shlock. Or what a pitiful imagination. Take the PS3 and add a better GPU...would that be better to express his imagination? Who doesn't think that PS4 would be better than PS3. That next months Cell2 would be better than this months Cell. Does anyone not believe that high end PC gaming platforms are as good or better than the PS3? And if you don't think so, are you naive enough to believe that PCs won't surpass the PS3 in 6 months, or a year, or, etc.

So is this turds imagination limited to the next six months? Does he have too much personal creative angst keeping him up at night? Or should he simply head to the john to take a large dump? Wherein he might find his next brilliant statement to make.

Again, this post isn't aimed at Sony, or the PS3. It's aimed at aself indulgent turd. You can find them everywhere.

SUD123456

I don't think he's referring to the PC platform, where, really, just about anything is possible, and no one denies this. The thing is, Square Enix is simply a traditionally console developer....not only that, they're a traditionally Playstation (as of the last 6 or 7 iterations) developer.

So I don't even think PC crossed his mind. Get over it, dude. You've got a breadth of awesome games to love on the PC platform. Dark Crusade, Neverwinter Nights, Medieval Total War, the now discontinued Spore, Crysis, UT3, Red Orchestra, etcetera.

Plus, the reason he's probably interested in consoles above the PC platform probably has something to do with the standardized medium. A lot of PC games simply don't look as good as many console games ATM (now, if you're cranking it around an 8800, there's a different story, and, believe me, I still think CSS outdoes a HUGE number of console games, including Gears, at max settings, but....GTHD and Motorstorm leave me nothing but speechless) because they have to encompass that all-important low-end PC spectra for maximum sales.

Think UT3: they said that their graphics are being shaped around the capabilities of the Xbox 360. They said that's not necessarily a bad thing, because they have to consider low-end PCs. That's always a concern. Last time I checked, quad-cores are still $1000 friggin' dollars or more, and I just saw a PC advertised in my Game Informer for $6000. Admittedly a rip-off, but it's a step up from the $5000 PC I saw in Game Informer just a few months prior.

Still, for every UT3 there's a Crysis (which is still being optimized for low-end hardware...the only thing that's going to push hardware sales is A) just how phenomenally scaleable the game is and B) how shockingly unbelievable the game looks maxed. Similar story with Alan Wake, which is going to be AMAZING on a high-end PC. But scaleability is an art form, and no doubt pisses many developers off. Alan Wake, according to the devs, just would not be playable on a single core processor. Weak. Again, not bashing the medium, as I love games like Dark Crusade and Company of Heroes more than practically any console game, but I can see where the Square Enix guy is coming from.

What was he referring to? Specifically, he was probably referring to the standard hard drive and the Blu Ray drive. Think about it. Kojima is all over the Blu Ray drive, as are Insomniac, Naughty Dog, and Factor 5. The guys who love to push pixels and fill DVDs with content are screaming about it. (this isn't an issue with PC, but that's why I included what I said above) Of COURSE Square Enix would pick the PS3 over the 360! Steaming, caching, hard drive+Blu Ray drive is probably the Square Enix wet dream. They're going to be able to have worlds as detailed as they could possibly want, with as much content as they could possibly want, from sound to FMV to worlds to bosses to character models to textures....streaming, if they want, all of it, according to Naughty Dog.

Blu Ray and the HDD are mind expansion and imagination expansion tools, not inhibitors. Remember, Bioware had to concern themselves within the confines of a SINGLE DVD! Compression, compression, where art thou. Imagination doesn't have to deal with technological limitations. That's why people speak of the PS3 as if it's removing a burden off their shoulders, from the Little Big Planet devs to the Lair devs to the Naughty Dog devs.

Plus, I'm sure he sees the potential for greatness in the Cell, which has proven to be a spectacular tool.

Unless he wants to make another Blue Dragon...3 something DVDs...very nice. Not to say the game isn't attractive though, it's just kind of a friggin' pain.

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Developer: I like developing for PS3!

Lemmings and Sheep: You're an IDIOT! We don't even program, but we know that you're WRONG!

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Developer: I like developing for PS3!

Lemmings and Sheep: You're an IDIOT! We don't even program, but we know that you're WRONG!

Timstuff

LOL

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Square-Enix is annoying... they like to flip flop. One minute innovation is their vision, and they support Nintendo, next minute they are supporting the "mighty" PS3.REVOLUTIONfreak

They never supported Nintendo....at least not since the CD format crashed onto the scene.

Simply: they see vision and innovation in the PS3 hardware. Even the Sega Rally Revo developer called it an "innovative" piece of hardware. Have you seen the crap this thing can do? It's remarkable. Not only that, it's a remarkable design. Add that to the Sixaxis, PSN, downloadable content, user-created content, standard HDD, and Blu Ray, you can DEFINITELY see where these guys are coming from.

Innovation...pah. If that's what you call literally taking the Gamecube hardware and putting it in a new box with a cute new controller....whatever. The only people managing to "innovate" on Nintendo's innovative new console are Nintendo themselves. When's the last time you saw a decent third-party game? Rayman? Pah.

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Developer: I like developing for PS3!

Lemmings and Sheep: You're an IDIOT! We don't even program, but we know that you're WRONG!

Timstuff

Developer: I like developing for PS3!

Cows: See? I told you all! Lemmings and Sheep are IDIOTS! We don't even program, but we know that they're WRONG!

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#36 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="mohammadnb"]

Look what Square Enix character creator Tetsuya Nomura say :

" t's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination. "

Big Shock

that prove FFXIII will be exclusive for PS3

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-47867.aspx

Stonin

Yeah big shock, another guy working on the PS3 says the PS3 is the greatest. It's almost as if his job depends on it or something :roll:.

It's a 3rd party dev.....they can take those games anywhere they want. I doubt his job is on the line.

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#37 Redfingers
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Developer: I like developing for PS3!

Lemmings and Sheep: You're an IDIOT! We don't even program, but we know that you're WRONG!

karicha9

Developer: I like developing for PS3!

Cows: See? I told you all! Lemmings and Sheep are IDIOTS! We don't even program, but we know that they're WRONG!

Yeah, but Lemmings and sheep are totally more credible than cows! If no one here programs but the developer quoted in the OP, do you see the point of sitting here bickering about who knows less about programming?

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#38 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="mohammadnb"]

Look what Square Enix character creator Tetsuya Nomura say :

" t's not just about how pretty the graphics are but more of how much limited amount of movement we can put in one go and how big our imagination and ideas are. The PS3 is the machine that is closest to being able to express our imagination. "

Big Shock

that prove FFXIII will be exclusive for PS3

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-47867.aspx

Stonin

Yeah big shock, another guy working on the PS3 says the PS3 is the greatest. It's almost as if his job depends on it or something :roll:.

you obviously don't know what you're talking about. SE works on all systems and have FF titles and new IPs for them all. Also, they are one of the most efficient companies on delivering quality products, hence they probably know how to tap the consoles to achieve great performance and results. i'd take his words over most devs'.

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Read between the lines. What they are actually saying is that ps3 is the most powerful console and no other console can come close to what they invision ( especially the 360 )-MoOkS-


Now we know who is the famous TwinBlade from system wars , with alt-account.
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#40 karicha9
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Yeah, but Lemmings and sheep are totally more credible than cows! If no one here programs but the developer quoted in the OP, do you see the point of sitting here bickering about who knows less about programming?

Redfingers
You can find a dev quote to say anything you like.
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I just saw a good version of their vision:

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[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"]Square-Enix is annoying... they like to flip flop. One minute innovation is their vision, and they support Nintendo, next minute they are supporting the "mighty" PS3.Redfingers

They never supported Nintendo....at least not since the CD format crashed onto the scene.

Simply: they see vision and innovation in the PS3 hardware. Even the Sega Rally Revo developer called it an "innovative" piece of hardware. Have you seen the crap this thing can do? It's remarkable. Not only that, it's a remarkable design. Add that to the Sixaxis, PSN, downloadable content, user-created content, standard HDD, and Blu Ray, you can DEFINITELY see where these guys are coming from.

Innovation...pah. If that's what you call literally taking the Gamecube hardware and putting it in a new box with a cute new controller....whatever. The only people managing to "innovate" on Nintendo's innovative new console are Nintendo themselves. When's the last time you saw a decent third-party game? Rayman? Pah.

add to that list CGI-streaming, which means you can play while CGIs run at the same moment, maybe at background or whatever (i know most will say that other consoles can do this, but not seamless like the cell's streaming capabilities can provide), the best physics any console can provide and real-time texture modification, with 3D textures added to 3D environment and it's influences affecting those textures in an aleatory way. all things only the PS3 can do, due to it's high floating point peak performance -- and a lot of ppl used to think that served for nothing...:lol:

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#43 Redfingers
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[QUOTE="-MoOkS-"]Read between the lines. What they are actually saying is that ps3 is the most powerful console and no other console can come close to what they invision ( especially the 360 )-wii60-


Now we know who is the famous TwinBlade from system wars , with alt-account.

I have a problem with your post. The problem is that what the developer said can actually be construed as how Mooks interpreted it.a

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#44 justdog11
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If it were so close, why did Sony say the FFXIII series would be the last Squeenix project ever for PS3? Looks more like "We shouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon too soon. We're hating development and realize we chose theconsole with the smallest userbase to severity. But for now all we can do it hype the system up and hope many people buy these games-- then we will focus on Wii, 360, and the handhelds."
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#45 Redfingers
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If it were so close, why did Sony say the FFXIII series would be the last Squeenix project ever for PS3? Looks more like "We shouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon too soon. We're hating development and realize we chose theconsole with the smallest userbase to severity. But for now all we can do it hype the system up and hope many people buy these games-- then we will focus on Wii, 360, and the handhelds."justdog11

Wrong? The Last Remnant, for one thing.

As opposed to what? The literally blank slate for Xbox 360?

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#46 SambaLele
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If it were so close, why did Sony say the FFXIII series would be the last Squeenix project ever for PS3? Looks more like "We shouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon too soon. We're hating development and realize we chose theconsole with the smallest userbase to severity. But for now all we can do it hype the system up and hope many people buy these games-- then we will focus on Wii, 360, and the handhelds."justdog11

you must be sick or being delirious... they never said such a thing, they only said that after FFXIII they would be changing the way they guide their business, focusing more on remakes and new IPs than on new FF titles... with titles coming for various consoles, like Last Remnant for both PS3/360. if anything, that statement only add to the rumour of FFVII being remade for the PS3...