PS3 sales as good as 360.

I dont understand why bash PS3's sales. Lets not forget 360 has a FULL year headstart and now sell at 28 mill sold which is released 4 years ago. while ps3 sales at 21 mil. which is 3 years ago, based on that figure, ps3 average per year is 7 million, the same with 360. So minus the headstart, PS3 is still more or less the same figure as 360.. And that number of sales is good considering PS3 is the most expensive console on the market and the crisis experience by some nations. And yet, they still havent released theyre flagship franchise which is the GT series (although released a prologue but that game is not the full ver.) . Which has a if not the same or much more fanbase than halo. And with the brightest and the most strongest exclusive, PS3 is slowly gaining ground, its just that PS3 needs a price cut. Then it would sell like pancakes. Your thoughts?

year head start and the ridiculous launch price of the ps3 contributes to it's sales. I would imagine the ps3 picking up alot if it got a good price cut like £199 in the uk, but that will not happen for a while.

I saved this wonderful quote for threads just like this:

Did you ever see the movie Rocky? In the end, Rocky didn't win. What was his accomplishment? He went 10 rounds with the best. The movie wasn't celebrating mediocrity, it was celebrating excelling far beyond expectations. And now PS3, which had been deemed this generation's certain victor even before launch is in 3rd place, while the scrappy underdog has cemented a place in front of them.

If PS3 was celebrating a small lead, it would be celebrating mediocrity. But for a player like MS, who had to split 30% marketshare with Nintendo last generation, it's a victory.

Anonymouse

:)

The 360 has increased its lead by about 2 million units since the PS3 launched, which indicates that the year head start was not the only factor, since if that was the case, then there would have been no growth to the gap.SpruceCaboose

well any link?? because last time i heard they sold pretty even in world wide sales last year. Dont give me any NPD sales as we all know its for NA number only.

NPD March 2008 - Xbox 360: 262,000. PS3: 257,000.

NPD March 2009 - one year later - Xbox 360: 330,000 (THAT'S +). PlayStation 3: 218,000 (LOL, THAT'S MINUS, -).

Sorry, PS3 is going downwards. :cry:

I dont understand why bash PS3's sales. Lets not forget 360 has a FULL year headstart and now sell at 28 mill sold which is released 4 years ago. while ps3 sales at 21 mil. which is 3 years ago, based on that figure, ps3 average per year is 7 million, the same with 360. So minus the headstart, PS3 is still more or less the same figure as 360.. And that number of sales is good considering PS3 is the most expensive console on the market and the crisis experience by some nations. And yet, they still havent released theyre flagship franchise which is the GT series (although released a prologue but that game is not the full ver.) . Which has a if not the same or much more fanbase than halo. And with the brightest and the most strongest exclusive, PS3 is slowly gaining ground, its just that PS3 needs a price cut. Then it would sell like pancakes. Your thoughts?

___gamemaster__

Well, like it or not, the year headstart counts, so accept it and move on. The 360 had a 1-year headstart on another console as well, too. How's that working out for them?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]The 360 has increased its lead by about 2 million units since the PS3 launched, which indicates that the year head start was not the only factor, since if that was the case, then there would have been no growth to the gap.___gamemaster__

well any link?? because last time i heard they sold pretty even in world wide sales last year. Dont give me any NPD sales as we all know its for NA number only.

NPD March 2008 - Xbox 360: 262,000. PS3: 257,000.

NPD March 2009 - one year later - Xbox 360: 330,000 (THAT'S +). PlayStation 3: 218,000 (LOL, THAT'S MINUS, -).

Sorry, PS3 is going downwards. :cry:

TheNewspaper

oh another NPD numbers.. :x

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]The 360 has increased its lead by about 2 million units since the PS3 launched, which indicates that the year head start was not the only factor, since if that was the case, then there would have been no growth to the gap.SpruceCaboose

well any link?? because last time i heard they sold pretty even in world wide sales last year. Dont give me any NPD sales as we all know its for NA number only.

yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.

No, 360 outsells the PS3 every single month. The 6 million gap of 2006 is now 8 million. Even if they were on pair, how would it be good? Didnt PS2 sold about 6 times more than the original Xbox? :P

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

well any link?? because last time i heard they sold pretty even in world wide sales last year. Dont give me any NPD sales as we all know its for NA number only.

___gamemaster__

yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.

EDIT: They are not using VGChartz finally, but they are using PR numbers for both, neither of which are the same as sales to consumers.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] I am using vgchartz numbers since that seems to be about the best that we can do, and is the number that everyone seems to use (after all, that is where it seems like you got your numbers in the OP).SpruceCaboose

yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.

theyre both unreliable though :lol: btw numbers in both site is pretty much the same though..

No, 360 outsells the PS3 every single month. The 6 million gap of 2006 is now 8 million. Even if they were on pair, how would it be good? Didnt PS2 sold about 6 times more than the original Xbox? :P

PAL360

yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.___gamemaster__

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] I am using vgchartz numbers since that seems to be about the best that we can do, and is the number that everyone seems to use (after all, that is where it seems like you got your numbers in the OP).SpruceCaboose

yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.

Oh, the pain!! Truly set himself up for fail on that one:lol:

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.

bez2083

Oh, the pain!! Truly set himself up for fail on that one:lol:

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

No, 360 outsells the PS3 every single month. The 6 million gap of 2006 is now 8 million. Even if they were on pair, how would it be good? Didnt PS2 sold about 6 times more than the original Xbox? :P

Rhubarb9

believed 360 is close on the limit though.. thy have cut the price and put out they're major exclusive but in ps3 they even have cut they're price and most major exclusive and system seller like GT is even not yet released. Imagine if they cut price and released GT5 at the same time.

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.IronBass

fixed.

Figured I'd spice up your post. :P

But yeah, I really dislike NPD season. System Wars get less intelligent than usual.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.

___gamemaster__

theyre both unreliable though :lol: btw numbers in both site is pretty much the same though..

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And Wiki is even worse than VGChartz. Not only does it use VGChartz as a source, its also editable by anyone at any time.Synthetic_NinJI

Oh, the pain!! Truly set himself up for fail on that one:lol:

Yeah, I had just joined. Good times back then.

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.IronBass

I didnt say i didnt use vgchartz as based on figures, i just though he'l give us a more reliable source than vgchartz and wiki. because he's claiming the gap has widen while it shows clearly that the're pretty much the same on both site..

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] And Wiki is even worse than VGChartz. Not only does it use VGChartz as a source, its also editable by anyone at any time.SpruceCaboose

theyre both unreliable though :lol: btw numbers in both site is pretty much the same though..

MS said?? yeah right.. :lol:

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

theyre both unreliable though :lol: btw numbers in both site is pretty much the same though..

___gamemaster__

MS said?? yeah right.. :lol:

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

theyre both unreliable though :lol: btw numbers in both site is pretty much the same though..

MS said?? yeah right.. :lol:

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]yeah VGCHARTZ :lol: btw used wikipedia though.. well according to wiki, 360 sold 28 mil as of jan 5 09, while ps3 sold 21.3 mils as of dec 31 08.___gamemaster__

I didnt say i didnt use vgchartz as based on figures, i just though he'l give us a more reliable source than vgchartz and wiki. because he's claiming the gap has widen while it shows clearly that the're pretty much the same on both site..

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]The 360 has increased its lead by about 2 million units since the PS3 launched, which indicates that the year head start was not the only factor, since if that was the case, then there would have been no growth to the gap.SpruceCaboose

well any link?? because last time i heard they sold pretty even in world wide sales last year. Dont give me any NPD sales as we all know its for NA number only.

Didn't the PS3 outsell the 360 in 2007? And in 2008 they sold exactly the same amount. So it's slightly decreased the gap but it's still millions behind.Floppy_Jim

No they're not. :|

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[QUOTE="IronBass"] You laugh at VG Chartz but you are using Wikipedia? The irony is strong.SpruceCaboose

I didnt say i didnt use vgchartz as based on figures, i just though he'l give us a more reliable source than vgchartz and wiki. because he's claiming the gap has widen while it shows clearly that the're pretty much the same on both site..

Havent you read my post? i clearly said the're averaging almost the same sales every year. at around 7 mill per year.. so looking at that value ps3 doesnt look like its trailing from a big lead considering its price tag.. Its all because of the headstart..

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

I didnt say i didnt use vgchartz as based on figures, i just though he'l give us a more reliable source than vgchartz and wiki. because he's claiming the gap has widen while it shows clearly that the're pretty much the same on both site..

___gamemaster__

Havent you read my post? i clearly said the're averaging almost the same sales every year. at around 7 mill per year.. so looking at that value ps3 doesnt look like its trailing from a big lead considering its price tag.. Its all because of the headstart..

I dont understand why bash PS3's sales. Lets not forget 360 has a FULL year headstart and now sell at 28 mill sold which is released 4 years ago. while ps3 sales at 21 mil. which is 3 years ago, based on that figure, ps3 average per year is 7 million, the same with 360. So minus the headstart, PS3 is still more or less the same figure as 360.. And that number of sales is good considering PS3 is the most expensive console on the market and the crisis experience by some nations. And yet, they still havent released theyre flagship franchise which is the GT series (although released a prologue but that game is not the full ver.) . Which has a if not the same or much more fanbase than halo. And with the brightest and the most strongest exclusive, PS3 is slowly gaining ground, its just that PS3 needs a price cut. Then it would sell like pancakes. Your thoughts?

___gamemaster__

360 is at 30 million + now, the gap is 8 million, and given 360 outsells PS3 almost 2:1 monthly, will be 10.000.000 by 2009 end

360 may have that headstart, but PS3 had the 120.000.000 PS2 users, which is rather 100000x more important if you ask me, and Sony REALLY made a world of mistakes not managing to tap on that PS2 crowed almost at all

Also the PS3 sales were good because 1. all those that were eager to jump to PS3 from PS2 did so, 2. It was a new system 3. Got a HUGE price cut as soon as it was released, from 600$ to just 400$ !!!!

Even worst, 360 price cut has been for less than a year, so it is now that PS3 will start really struggling, now that 360 has the price to ousell it huge, like it did this holiday in a huge huge way, and keeps doing monthly

So, PS3 is going from bad to worst, sells less and less and big name games seem to have zero or even ... negative impact to its sales, while 360 is doing better and better and has a huge lineup of vast titles, which is really unbeatable, since it totally replaces PC and you can have nearly all PC games and console exlusives for half the PS3 price !!!!! And BC on top !!!

So, it is either Sony drops to 250$ at the very least, or slowly die and next gen become what Wii is today to make up the losses

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] No, VGChartz had the 360 at abou 5.3 million units sold at the time the PS3 launched. Now the gap is about 8 million units. That is a growth of the gap. Synthetic_NinJI

Havent you read my post? i clearly said the're averaging almost the same sales every year. at around 7 mill per year.. so looking at that value ps3 doesnt look like its trailing from a big lead considering its price tag.. Its all because of the headstart..

they sold pretty even last year,, and 07 is no exceptions either.

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

Havent you read my post? i clearly said the're averaging almost the same sales every year. at around 7 mill per year.. so looking at that value ps3 doesnt look like its trailing from a big lead considering its price tag.. Its all because of the headstart..

___gamemaster__

they sold pretty even last year,, and 07 is no exceptions either.

Gears 2 sold 1.3 million in US alone first week

Now i wonder what kind of developer would avoid making a 360 title and make a PS3 exclusive, it is really puzzling and really bad for developers that will be lost if they sell so low, like say KZ2 developers

I dont understand why bash PS3's sales. Lets not forget 360 has a FULL year headstart and now sell at 28 mill sold which is released 4 years ago. while ps3 sales at 21 mil. which is 3 years ago, based on that figure, ps3 average per year is 7 million, the same with 360. So minus the headstart, PS3 is still more or less the same figure as 360.. And that number of sales is good considering PS3 is the most expensive console on the market and the crisis experience by some nations. And yet, they still havent released theyre flagship franchise which is the GT series (although released a prologue but that game is not the full ver.) . Which has a if not the same or much more fanbase than halo. And with the brightest and the most strongest exclusive, PS3 is slowly gaining ground, its just that PS3 needs a price cut. Then it would sell like pancakes. Your thoughts?

___gamemaster__

i find it interesting how Sony fans always mention the fact the PS3 is also a bluray player when comparing the features of the 360 and PS3, yet never seem to mention it when talking about sales. The PS3 was the cheapest bluray player on the market for a considerable portion of its life so far, if not still the cheapest. Which means it should be picking up a large amount of sales from this market aswell as the gaming market. If you take this into consideration, its sales just arent good compared to the 360, no matter how you try to spin it. Also during the 360s so called 'head-start' it had to compete with the PS2 aswell as the fact people knew the PS3 was coming.

Now i wonder what kind of developer would avoid making a 360 title and make a PS3 exclusive, it is really puzzling and really bad for developers that will be lost if they sell so low, like say KZ2 developers

obamanian

comming from the one who claims fable 2 has better graphics than killzone 2, and lost oddysey compared to FFXIII? :lol:

The 360 has increased its lead by about 2 million units since the PS3 launched, which indicates that the year head start was not the only factor, since if that was the case, then there would have been no growth to the gap.SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]The 360 has increased its lead by about 2 million units since the PS3 launched, which indicates that the year head start was not the only factor, since if that was the case, then there would have been no growth to the gap.Animal-Mother

The one year headstart means nothing. The Wii came out within days of the PS3 and it's outselling everything. People need to stop using that excuse.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]The 360 has increased its lead by about 2 million units since the PS3 launched, which indicates that the year head start was not the only factor, since if that was the case, then there would have been no growth to the gap.Synthetic_NinJI

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I think Broken systems and Having to buy other ones contribute a bit as well. I've had to buy 2 360's, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has had to.Animal-Mother

Consider that your own fault. If my 360 broke and they wanted me to pay out more than the actual console costs I'd kick up a royal riot and if i didn't get it resolved I'd never buy one of their consoles ever again and I'd make sure they knew it.

You'd be surprised how far being a royal pain in the behind can get you if you just remain persistent.

It's also a crappy excuse because while some people are silly enough to buy a console again after it broke think of all the consumers put off from buying it. Far outweighs the pros if you ask me.

With that said, I never knew a year head start was illegal why is it being used as an excuse to defend a console who had a 10 year head start in the console world and can't even go toe to toe with the new comer?

I know before this gen Started I expected the PS3 to already have a lead on the 360 right now.waynehead895

And so did most people. At the very least, no one expected the PS3 to be staring the very real possibility of losing over 50% of the PS2's marketshare :)

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] Why would you buy another one if you can get another one for free.CreepyBacon

Consider that your own fault. If my 360 broke and they wanted me to pay out more than the actual console costs I'd kick up a royal riot and if i didn't get it resolved I'd never buy one of their consoles ever again and I'd make sure they knew it.

You'd be surprised how far being a royal pain in the behind can get you if you just remain persistent.

It's also a crappy excuse because while some people are silly enough to buy a console again after it broke think of all the consumers put off from buying it. Far outweighs the pros if you ask me.

With that said, I never knew a year head start was illegal why is it being used as an excuse to defend a console who had a 10 year head start in the console world and can't even go toe to toe with the new comer?

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Now i wonder what kind of developer would avoid making a 360 title and make a PS3 exclusive, it is really puzzling and really bad for developers that will be lost if they sell so low, like say KZ2 developers

___gamemaster__

comming from the one who claims fable 2 has better graphics than killzone 2, and lost oddysey compared to FFXIII? :lol:

You mean someone that proved it is that way, and not a single person has answered why it is not that way, meaning i am 100% right