PS3 sold more than 360... X1 has no chance at beating PS4

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#1 drakekratos
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Yes its true. PS3 came back and eventually surpassed 360's sales. 

 

Despite being released a year later in North America

Despite being released a year and a half later in Europe

Despite being $600 at Launch and getting a lot of bad press

Despite PSN taking a long time to get to respectable levels

Despite being more difficult to develop on

Despite having a controller that many disliked

Despite having a weak exclusive lineup for the first 2 years

Despite releasing at the same time as Wii, which had all the hype and media

 

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Now this time around PS4 wont just beat Xbox One, it will destroy it in sales.

 

PS4 and X1 are releasing at the same time

PS4 will be $100 cheaper

PS4 is significantly stronger and easy to develop on, therefore will have better versions of every multiplat game

PS4 UI and online service are on par with XBL

PS4 controller is hugely improved, and possibly better than the X1 controller.

PS4 has stronger franchises that PS3 didnt have back in 2006 (The Last of Us, Uncharted, Infamous, LBP)

PS4 won't have to worry about Wii U at all

 

 

Just think about it for a minute. If 360 couldnt even beat PS3 despite the huge head start and price advantage, there is NO WAY Xbox One has a chance at beating PS4. 

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#2 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Man, you take this shit way too seriously.
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#3 freedomfreak
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It's okay, man. We've all been there. Just breathe.
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#4 Jonwh18
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PS4 ..... lol

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#5 Silverbond
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You stop caring about these things when you get older.

We're all gonna make it, brah.

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#6 Newhopes
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You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

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#7 drakekratos
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You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

Newhopes
ugh, what? This makes no sense/
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#8 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

drakekratos
ugh, what? This makes no sense/

Sony doesn't report PS3 numbers anymore. They repeat 'PlayStation consoles' (PS3+PS2) sales.
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#9 always_explicit
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You REALLY REALLY need something else to think about.

I think even pathetic is too insufficient a word to describe your dedication to belittling a competitive product.

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#10 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

drakekratos
ugh, what? This makes no sense/

He meant inflated its quite obvious.
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#11 R3FURBISHED
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Haven't the 360 and PS3 sold damn near identical amounts?

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#12 drakekratos
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="Newhopes"]

You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

always_explicit
ugh, what? This makes no sense/

He meant inflated its quite obvious.

So now we're debating if PS3 really sold more than 360? I thought this was common knowledge now...
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#13 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="drakekratos"] ugh, what? This makes no sense/

He meant inflated its quite obvious.

So now we're debating if PS3 really sold more than 360? I thought this was common knowledge now...

Only in Sony Land. There are no official numbers for PS3, none since late 2010, all we have are estimates by outside, third party agencies. When Sony gives me its numbers, I will willingly concede the PS3 sold more than Xbox 360, but until then, nope. Also, lol at fighting for second place. It's pathetic how the mighty have fallen.
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#14 heretrix
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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="drakekratos"] ugh, what? This makes no sense/ drakekratos
He meant inflated its quite obvious.

So now we're debating if PS3 really sold more than 360? I thought this was common knowledge now...

It only took them the entire generation and happened when it really doesn't mean anything.

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#15 AtariKidX
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PS3........have won.SDC......:cool:
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#16 ninjapirate2000
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lol

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#17 heretrix
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PS3........have won.SDC......:cool:AtariKidX

SDC? Sad dumb Cows?

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#18 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="always_explicit"] He meant inflated its quite obvious.charizard1605
So now we're debating if PS3 really sold more than 360? I thought this was common knowledge now...

Only in Sony Land. There are no official numbers for PS3, none since late 2010, all we have are estimates by outside, third party agencies. When Sony gives me its numbers, I will willingly concede the PS3 sold more than Xbox 360, but until then, nope. Also, lol at fighting for second place. It's pathetic how the mighty have fallen.

#charizard4lemking2013 :cool:

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#19 Newhopes
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="Newhopes"]

You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

always_explicit

ugh, what? This makes no sense/

He meant inflated its quite obvious.

 

Shouldn't type and play WOT at the same time.....

 

Since 2010 Sony has lumped PS2/PS3 and PSP/Vita sales together and at that time PS2 was still selling 3.5-4m units a year, you can bet if the PS3 had surpassed the 360 Sony would have let us know that by know.

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#20 blackace
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Yes its true. PS3 came back and eventually surpassed 360's sales. 

 

Despite being released a year later in North America

Despite being released a year and a half later in Europe

Despite being $600 at Launch and getting a lot of bad press

Despite PSN taking a long time to get to respectable levels

Despite being more difficult to develop on

Despite having a controller that many disliked

Despite having a weak exclusive lineup for the first 2 years

Despite releasing at the same time as Wii, which had all the hype and media

 

__________________________________________________________

 

Now this time around PS4 wont just beat Xbox One, it will destroy it in sales.

 

PS4 and X1 are releasing at the same time

PS4 will be $100 cheaper

PS4 is significantly stronger and easy to develop on, therefore will have better versions of every multiplat game

PS4 UI and online service are on par with XBL

PS4 controller is hugely improved, and possibly better than the X1 controller.

PS4 has stronger franchises that PS3 didnt have back in 2006 (The Last of Us, Uncharted, Infamous, LBP)

PS4 won't have to worry about Wii U at all

 

 

Just think about it for a minute. If 360 couldnt even beat PS3 despite the huge head start and price advantage, there is NO WAY Xbox One has a chance at beating PS4. 

drakekratos

LMAO @ drakekratos bias delusion threads.

whining.gif

 

Whaa..whaa.whaaaaa!! PS3 won!! Whaaa..whaaa.whaaaa!!! PS4 is better. :lol: Get a life.

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#21 drakekratos
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Nobody is whining. Just stating facts.
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#22 UnbiasedPoster
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So true. Xbox had their one chance and they failed. I guess that is what happens when you don't have any quality exclusive first parties who can consistently deliver over a whole gen.
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#23 lundy86_4
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Man, you take this shit way too seriously.charizard1605

It's okay, man. We've all been there. Just breathe.freedomfreak

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#24 RR360DD
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PS3 still last bro :(
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#25 Kaz_Son
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:cool: SDC. M$ never stood a chance.
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#26 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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PS1 + PS2 were bought by casual gamers and every single kid wanted one. The XBox was for the hardcore with games like counterstrike 1.6, Unreal, Rainbow six: raven shield . Did you really expect the 360 to outsell the PS3? The sad thing is that it actually did.
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#27 JohnF111
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Just think, Sony made the Xbox One what it is today, so in reality the two are now more closely matched than ever, same CPU, same amount of RAM, same features and same old battle. They'll be fairly close 2 years into the gen.
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#28 Ribnarak
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people are probably not going to take you seriously TC. BUT i think you raise some valid points. PS4 launching at the same time as the xboxone and at a better price is HUGE. Sony consoles do well around the world. and LOL. i dont know if anyones tried this but write xboxone and right click to correct its mistake. the suggestion i get is "moneybox" . made me lol.

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#29 lostrib
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what are the official numbers for each?

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#30 jman1553
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It's pathetic how the mighty have fallen.

Please don't turn this into a Wii U thread.
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#31 RR360DD
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what are the official numbers for each?

lostrib

Heres a detailed breakdown from myself cool.gif

FY11

PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million

FY12

PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million

Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.

Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).

Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.

FY13 Q1

PS3 sales - 1.1 million

Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"

PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopped shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.

Therefore .....

PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.

360 is at 78.2 million.

cool.gif

That was at the start of the summer.

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#32 danjammer69
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You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

Newhopes
Do you know what infatuated means? Because you are WAY off.
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#33 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

danjammer69

Do you know what infatuated means? Because you are WAY off.

lol

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Despite having a controller that many disliked

drakekratos

 

Ps3 controller is the best except for the triggers.

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#35 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

You do know the PS3 numbers have been vastly infatuated by having PS2 sale added don't you?

danjammer69
Do you know what infatuated means? Because you are WAY off.

He's a rabid lemming. You're expecting way too much of him
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Man, you take this shit way too seriously.charizard1605

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

what are the official numbers for each?

RR360DD

Heres a detailed breakdown from myself cool.gif

FY11

PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million

FY12

PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million

Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.

Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).

Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.

FY13 Q1

PS3 sales - 1.1 million

Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"

PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopped shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.

Therefore .....

PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.

360 is at 78.2 million.

cool.gif

That was at the start of the summer.

thats not too bad for the ps3 considering it was out a year later and almost 1.5 years after the 360. not bad at all actually . and what about failed 360s (are those counted as well, since im sure a lot of people had to replace their 360s). I know YLOD problems but they werent as bad as 360s RROD ( i believe)
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#38 Demonjoe93
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Going by this logic, does this mean the Wii-U is going to sale the most? The Wii did come in first after all.

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[QUOTE="drakekratos"] 

Despite having a controller that many disliked

gamerdude970

 

Ps3 controller is the best except for the triggers.

i love the ps3 controller . the 360 one is comfy but i personally like the dpad and the placements of the analogs
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#40 Caseytappy
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Nobody is whining. Just stating facts. drakekratos

 

Facts without any stats to prove = drivel !

 

You could always try Lulzchartz to back you up but who cares :lol:

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#42 ninjapirate2000
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Wii sold more than both. 

/thread

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#43 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

what are the official numbers for each?

Ribnarak

Heres a detailed breakdown from myself cool.gif

FY11

PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million

FY12

PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million

Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.

Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).

Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.

FY13 Q1

PS3 sales - 1.1 million

Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"

PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopped shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.

Therefore .....

PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.

360 is at 78.2 million.

cool.gif

That was at the start of the summer.

thats not too bad for the ps3 considering it was out a year later and almost 1.5 years after the 360. not bad at all actually . and what about failed 360s (are those counted as well, since im sure a lot of people had to replace their 360s). I know YLOD problems but they werent as bad as 360s RROD ( i believe)

Its pretty bad when compared to Sonys dominance in the generation before.

No way to know how many PS3s or 360s were rebought. Or how many PS3s were bought as cheap blu ray players. So no point getting into it. Software wise, they're both similar which suggests their install base is also similar.

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#44 CanYouDiglt
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TC still upset the PS3 was last.

Also funny all the Sony fanboys still crying about the year thing. The Wii sold the most and even released a few days after the PS3 so there blows apart the year excuse.

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#45 Sagemode87
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TC still upset the PS3 was last.

Also funny all the Sony fanboys still crying about the year thing. The Wii sold the most and even released a few days after the PS3 so there blows apart the year excuse.

CanYouDiglt

Lol hilarious that Lems can deny 360 being last. PS3 surpassed it last year in December, it's outsold it all year long keep denying though if it makes you feel better. Sad that you need a console to feel self worth. 

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#46 Sagemode87
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TC still upset the PS3 was last.

Also funny all the Sony fanboys still crying about the year thing. The Wii sold the most and even released a few days after the PS3 so there blows apart the year excuse.

CanYouDiglt

Wii was 250, PS3 was 600 during a recession in the States. Keep playing dumb, maybe you're not playing at all. 

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#47 DerekLoffin
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

what are the official numbers for each?

RR360DD

Heres a detailed breakdown from myself cool.gif

FY11

PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million

FY12

PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million

Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.

Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).

Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.

FY13 Q1

PS3 sales - 1.1 million

Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"

PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopped shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.

Therefore .....

PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.

360 is at 78.2 million.

cool.gif

That was at the start of the summer.

Hey, that's not too bad, save one important thing. I just looked at the FY12 report and it never says the unit sales of PS3 were down. It says "Lower sales of PlayStation 3 hardware, due to a strategic price reduction, and of PlayStation 2, due to platform migration, lead to a decrease in sales in the game business." Now, if you interpret sales as unit sales, that makes no sense, and would contradict you that PS2 had no change. However, if you realize the entire thing is talking about the sales in dollars (revenue) in this entire section it makes sense but unfortunately that doesn't say anything as far as the unit sales goes.

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#48 starwolf474
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

what are the official numbers for each?

Ribnarak

Heres a detailed breakdown from myself cool.gif

FY11

PS3 sales - 13.9 million
PS2 sales - 4.1 million

FY12

PS3 / PS2 sales combined - 16.5 million

Sony states in the report that PS3, PSVita and PSP sales were down YoY. No mention of PS2 sales.

Not only does this indicate that the PS3 sold less than 13.9 million, but that the PS2 sold around 4.1 million again (They only stopped shipping it in the last quarter).

Therefore, the PS3 shipped around 12.4 million during FY12, giving it the grand total of 76.3 million (as of March 31st 2013). For reference, the 360 was at 77.2 million.

FY13 Q1

PS3 sales - 1.1 million

Sony state that revenues were flat. "PlayStation 3, 2 and PSP sales are all quoted as being down"

PS2 sales were down (obviously, they stopped shipping in Jan 2013). PS2 sales were not combined with PS3 sales.

Therefore .....

PS3 is currently at 77.4 million.

360 is at 78.2 million.

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That was at the start of the summer.

thats not too bad for the ps3 considering it was out a year later and almost 1.5 years after the 360. not bad at all actually . and what about failed 360s (are those counted as well, since im sure a lot of people had to replace their 360s). I know YLOD problems but they werent as bad as 360s RROD ( i believe)

Considering that the previous generation, PS2 sold 157 million and Xbox sold 24 million, it is very bad. Playstation's sales decreased by more than half this generation while Xbox sold 3 times better than the previous generation. Even if PS3 does eventually manage to sell more than 360, the fact that Sony lost a huge amount of sales this gen and Microsoft gained a huge amount of sales this gen makes Xbox 360 a winner and Playstation 3 a loser. And if you want to get into not counting sales from people that had to re-buy a 360 because of RRoD then you also have to not count the sales of people that bought a PS3 only as a cheap blu-ray player and never used it for gaming.
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#49 CanYouDiglt
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TC still upset the PS3 was last.

Also funny all the Sony fanboys still crying about the year thing. The Wii sold the most and even released a few days after the PS3 so there blows apart the year excuse.

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Wii was 250, PS3 was 600 during a recession in the States. Keep playing dumb, maybe you're not playing at all. 

lmao more excuses on why the PS3 is last. First it was the year and now it is the recession.
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[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

TC still upset the PS3 was last.

Also funny all the Sony fanboys still crying about the year thing. The Wii sold the most and even released a few days after the PS3 so there blows apart the year excuse.

CanYouDiglt

Wii was 250, PS3 was 600 during a recession in the States. Keep playing dumb, maybe you're not playing at all. 

lmao more excuses on why the PS3 is last. First it was the year and now it is the recession.

Man, you're in full damage control mode. Only you and a few lemmings still believe 360 is in 2nd place. It's last place man, just let it go. Nobody cares anyway since this gen is practically over.