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#1 nosedive7
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I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?
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#2 Tiefster
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You just don't make up new hardware in a year you know. I know it seems like this works with PC hardware manufacturers but it doesn't work with consoles. Sony just didn't throw a 7900 in PS3 and say "good luck!" they had it specially designed by nVidia and while it may equal the power of a 7800 or 7900 it's architecture is different and it is designed to work in a different way that your standard PC graphics card (working with the cell etc.)

Blu Ray was a good decision anyway. It won the format war because of PS3 probably. It already is a great gaming machine to those who like the games on it.
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#3 horrowhip
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You just don't make up new hardware in a year you know. I know it seems like this works with PC hardware manufacturers but it doesn't work with consoles. Sony just didn't throw a 7900 in PS3 and say "good luck!" they had it specially designed by nVidia and while it may equal the power of a 7800 or 7900 it's architecture is different and it is designed to work in a different way that your standard PC graphics card (working with the cell etc.)

Blu Ray was a good decision anyway. It won the format war because of PS3 probably. It already is a great gaming machine to those who like the games on it.
Tiefster

actually... that is fairly wrong.

Sony sort of panicked late in development when they realized the original plan of having 2 of the early version full Cell Processors wasn't going to work(The Cell was originally an out-of-order, 7 SPU's open with the one CPU core for general stuff(sort of like now. Only now, several cores are blocked off and is in-order), and higher bandwidth through the entire Cell. They were going to put two of these side by side in the PS3. GPU wasn't needed because of SPU's. Cost and the fact that it was nearly impossible to program for made these plans go down in flames). So, late in development, Sony freaked and called up nVidia to get them a GPU to work with the Cell which would act as their CPU. nVidia took the GeForce 7800 and literally put it in the PS3 with a couple bandwidth and memory modifications so that it could be accessed easier by the Cell. But it IS literally the 7800. It works the exact same way aside from some different bandwidth so that it isn't a pain to access using the Cell. But fundamentally it is the same as the GeForce 7800.

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Yeah they definitely should've used an 8000 series core and made it 1GB RAM since it was delayed anyways.
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I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?nosedive7

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

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#6 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?EmperorSupreme

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?blackice1983

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

weren't you one of the lemmings saying you were ready to pick up the new xbox in 2010?

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#10 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?blackice1983

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

Which features would those be? Since I've had my PS3 they've added a whole bunch more to the system than they've dropped. Including PSP remote play, new Blu-ray firmware, upscaling for DVD, Home is in the works, improved the network quite a bit, improved the store, etc... Unless you are talking about BC, guess what the PS2 is still out there if you want it unlike the Xbox and the 80gb does BC and gives you 20gb more of space + a game for $100 less than the 60gb cost.

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#11 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?thrones

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

Someone thinking 360 is the best gaming system.

2 times as many AA plus titles and a larger online community

buh buh no country for old men is on blu-ray. please

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#12 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?blackice1983

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

Someone thinking 360 is the best gaming system.

2 times as many AA plus titles and a larger online community

buh buh no country for old men is on blu-ray. please

PC. PC is the best gaming system.

Several more AA+ plus titles, larger online community.

buh buh gears of sausagefest is on 360. Come on.

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#13 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?killadread

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

weren't you one of the lemmings saying you were ready to pick up the new xbox in 2010?

trick please

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[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?EmperorSupreme

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.



Fanboy FTL,and trolling much?
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#15 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?thrones

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

Someone thinking 360 is the best gaming system.

2 times as many AA plus titles and a larger online community

buh buh no country for old men is on blu-ray. please

PC. PC is the best gaming system.

Several more AA+ plus titles, larger online community.

buh buh gears of sausagefest is on 360. Come on.

cows hiding behind the pc again

i thought we were talking about consoles here

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If they used an 8800 and 1 gig of ram... it would have cost a lot of money.
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#17 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?MojondeVACA

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.



Fanboy FTL,and trolling much?

Poster said "no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3." Which I'm showing they did. I think Sony did good with their extra year. That's not trolling welcome to system wars level 1.

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#18 thrones
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cows hiding behind the pc again

i thought we were talking about consoles here

blackice1983

Where was it suggested I was a cow? Closer to Hermit than anything else.

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#19 MojondeVACA
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?EmperorSupreme

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.



Fanboy FTL,and trolling much?

Poster said "no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3." Which I'm showing they did. I think Sony did good with their extra year. That's not trolling welcome to system wars level 1.



You qualified perfect for the cows/trolls at systemwars.com,im sure they will receive you there with open arms.
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#21 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Poster said "no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3." Which I'm showing they did. I think Sony did good with their extra year. That's not trolling welcome to system wars level 1.

MojondeVACA



You qualified perfect for the cows/trolls at systemwars.com,im sure they will receive you there with open arms.

Typical level 1 poster, nothing added to the thread.. Just going to call me names and hide behind your keyboard. I hope you didn't create a new account just to harrass me.

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#22 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]

cows hiding behind the pc again

i thought we were talking about consoles here

thrones

Where was it suggested I was a cow? Closer to Hermit than anything else.

probably because its was a disscussion about the ps3 and 360 and you radomly bring up the pc when a started talking about the games on the 360

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#23 MojondeVACA
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Poster said "no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3." Which I'm showing they did. I think Sony did good with their extra year. That's not trolling welcome to system wars level 1.

EmperorSupreme



You qualified perfect for the cows/trolls at systemwars.com,im sure they will receive you there with open arms.

Typical level 1 poster, nothing added to the thread.. Just going to call me names and hide behind your keyboard. I hope you didn't create a new account just to harrass me.



Hmm not, i just got bored of systemwars.com, i wanna take at look of this ''systemwars'',harrass you? you take the internetz so serious dude.having bigger level and more post doesn't change the facts that u're a fanboy.
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#26 gdp72
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stop doing those stupid faces their not funny.pro-nathan-07

X1,000,000! Plus I don't understand why people defend the system that has only proven to do one thing better which is breaking. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what console that is!:P

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Hmm not, i just got bored of systemwars.com, i wanna take at look of this ''systemwars'',harrass you? you take the internetz so serious dude.having bigger level and more post doesn't change the facts that u're a fanboy.
MojondeVACA

Lesson 1 - post about the topic, calling people fanboys, trolls, cows, lemmings, hermits, etc.. adds nothing to discussion. Almost everyone in this forum is a fanboy of sorts that's why it's called systemwars.

You might want to read this link when you get a chance:

System Wars Welcome and Information

"When posting, it's important to remain on discussion about the systems or games being debated, rather than discussing the people who play them. Name calling, insults, derogatory statement, or belittling of another poster is considered trolling. It's a good idea to make sure the purpose of each post is to debate ideas, rather than to attack..."

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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?EmperorSupreme

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.



Fanboy FTL,and trolling much?

Poster said "no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3." Which I'm showing they did. I think Sony did good with their extra year. That's not trolling welcome to system wars level 1.

Uh, they didn't add anything to the PS3 durring that year, they DELAYED the PS3 because of the Bluray diodes.

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Go ahead and report me, u can't counter back what i just said, the best way is just to cry to the moderators.
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#30 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?Nagidar

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.



Fanboy FTL,and trolling much?

Poster said "no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3." Which I'm showing they did. I think Sony did good with their extra year. That's not trolling welcome to system wars level 1.

Uh, they didn't add anything to the PS3 durring that year, they DELAYED the PS3 because of the Bluray diodes.

Did Nintendo DELAY the Wii as well? I don't think so.

I thought it was common knowledge that MS jumped this generation early by releasing the X360 a year early. Infact the original Xbox was only around 4 years.

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#31 EmperorSupreme
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Go ahead and report me, u can't counter back what i just said, the best way is just to cry to the moderators.MojondeVACA

Why would I report you?? I don't care, I'm actually trying to just help you out. MODS here are strict nobody needs to report anybody trust me. You'll find out all on your own :lol:

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#32 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?EmperorSupreme

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.



Fanboy FTL,and trolling much?

Poster said "no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3." Which I'm showing they did. I think Sony did good with their extra year. That's not trolling welcome to system wars level 1.

Uh, they didn't add anything to the PS3 durring that year, they DELAYED the PS3 because of the Bluray diodes.

Did Nintendo DELAY the Wii as well? I don't think so.

I thought it was common knowledge that MS jumped this generation early by releasing the X360 a year early. Infact the original Xbox was only around 4 years.

WTF are you talking about, I didn't even mention MS or Nintendo, its a fact SONY delayed the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, I didn't even bring the other consoles into this.

Reading comprehension FTL!

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#34 EmperorSupreme
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Did Nintendo DELAY the Wii as well? I don't think so.

I thought it was common knowledge that MS jumped this generation early by releasing the X360 a year early. Infact the original Xbox was only around 4 years.

Nagidar

WTF are you talking about, I didn't even mention MS or Nintendo, its a fact SONY delayed the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, I didn't even bring the other consoles into this.

If it was up to Sony you'd still be playing PS2 and PS3 would just be coming out.

Sony had to actually rush the PS3 to production because MS launched early. Did you forget that PS3 wasn't actually due for another 2 years after X360 launched?? The original specification for PS3 was 2 cell processors and more SPEs per processor. It was when MS announced the X360 early launch that Sony had to drastically change the original specifications of the PS3.

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#35 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Did Nintendo DELAY the Wii as well? I don't think so.

I thought it was common knowledge that MS jumped this generation early by releasing the X360 a year early. Infact the original Xbox was only around 4 years.

EmperorSupreme

WTF are you talking about, I didn't even mention MS or Nintendo, its a fact SONY delayed the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, I didn't even bring the other consoles into this.

If it was up to Sony you'd still be playing PS2 and PS3 would just be coming out.

Sony had to actually rush the PS3 to production because MS launched early. Did you forget that PS3 wasn't actually due for another 2 years after X360 launched?? The original specification for PS3 was 2 cell processors and more SPEs per processor. It was when MS announced the X360 early launch that Sony had to drastically change the original specifications of the PS3.

Oh really? Link? Because I remember SONY delaying the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, and even IF your scenario was true, how does that make SONY look? Chasing MS to get their console out the gate? If anything, your scenario makes SONY look worse.

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#36 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Did Nintendo DELAY the Wii as well? I don't think so.

I thought it was common knowledge that MS jumped this generation early by releasing the X360 a year early. Infact the original Xbox was only around 4 years.

EmperorSupreme

WTF are you talking about, I didn't even mention MS or Nintendo, its a fact SONY delayed the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, I didn't even bring the other consoles into this.

If it was up to Sony you'd still be playing PS2 and PS3 would just be coming out.

Sony had to actually rush the PS3 to production because MS launched early. Did you forget that PS3 wasn't actually due for another 2 years after X360 launched?? The original specification for PS3 was 2 cell processors and more SPEs per processor. It was when MS announced the X360 early launch that Sony had to drastically change the original specifications of the PS3.

thats not the reason, the reason they released early was because they couldn't do it, harrowwhip pointed it out that it was near to impossible for them to do that, and not have a system that was impossible to code for, and cost 2000 dollars or more. dont blame 360 for the ps3's inferiority.

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#37 Nagidar
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Oh and heres a link for you. Link
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#38 aaronone
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the 360 was overpriced at launch to and it took them longer to come down in price than the ps3
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#39 Fusible
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="nosedive7"]I would just like to point out that the PS3 launched a year after the 360 as everyone knows. What no one seems to ever bring up is the fact that Sony could have used the extra year to put better tech into the PS3, and at the price it launched at I was expecting the PS3 to be leaps and bounds above the 360. Instead Sony choose to trojan horse blu ray into peoples living rooms at the expense of a better gamming machine. The thing I want to know is why is this acceptable to Sony fans?thrones

Or they could've released a piece of crap like X360 a year early like Microsoft right? No HDMI, No HD-DVD or Blu-ray, No wifi, and horrible reliability. Noisy console, huge power brick, DVD drive that scratched disks, etc... Let's think about what you are saying for a second.

id rather have ms add stuff to the system while the price drops rather than sony dropping features to get prices down but thats just me

someone thinking ps3 is the better gaming system

Someone thinking 360 is the best gaming system.

It's not the best system but has a better library at the moment. We'll see how things turn out, but your right it's not the best system available but is the system with the best current library of games.
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#40 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts
[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Did Nintendo DELAY the Wii as well? I don't think so.

I thought it was common knowledge that MS jumped this generation early by releasing the X360 a year early. Infact the original Xbox was only around 4 years.

Nagidar

WTF are you talking about, I didn't even mention MS or Nintendo, its a fact SONY delayed the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, I didn't even bring the other consoles into this.

If it was up to Sony you'd still be playing PS2 and PS3 would just be coming out.

Sony had to actually rush the PS3 to production because MS launched early. Did you forget that PS3 wasn't actually due for another 2 years after X360 launched?? The original specification for PS3 was 2 cell processors and more SPEs per processor. It was when MS announced the X360 early launch that Sony had to drastically change the original specifications of the PS3.

Oh really? Link? Because I remember SONY delaying the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, and even IF your scenario was true, how does that make SONY look? Chasing MS to get their console out the gate? If anything, your scenario makes SONY look worse.

Well look at what 1 year cost them, how do you think PS2 would compete against X360 for two years. Ask Nintendo what happens if you let the competition goto market first for too long. It's kind've ignorant too suggest Sony should go their own way when competing with Microsoft a company of nearly unlimited funds.

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#41 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

Did Nintendo DELAY the Wii as well? I don't think so.

I thought it was common knowledge that MS jumped this generation early by releasing the X360 a year early. Infact the original Xbox was only around 4 years.

EmperorSupreme

WTF are you talking about, I didn't even mention MS or Nintendo, its a fact SONY delayed the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, I didn't even bring the other consoles into this.

If it was up to Sony you'd still be playing PS2 and PS3 would just be coming out.

Sony had to actually rush the PS3 to production because MS launched early. Did you forget that PS3 wasn't actually due for another 2 years after X360 launched?? The original specification for PS3 was 2 cell processors and more SPEs per processor. It was when MS announced the X360 early launch that Sony had to drastically change the original specifications of the PS3.

Oh really? Link? Because I remember SONY delaying the PS3 due to Bluray Diodes, and even IF your scenario was true, how does that make SONY look? Chasing MS to get their console out the gate? If anything, your scenario makes SONY look worse.

Well look at what 1 year cost them, how do you think PS2 would compete against X360 for two years. Ask Nintendo what happens if you let the competition goto market first for too long. It's kind've ignorant too suggest Sony should go their own way when competing with Microsoft a company of nearly unlimited funds.

Translation: "I can't prove it because he provided a link and I can't, so I'll just make some stuff up to make my lie sound good."

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#42 Pro_wrestler
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You just don't make up new hardware in a year you know. I know it seems like this works with PC hardware manufacturers but it doesn't work with consoles. Sony just didn't throw a 7900 in PS3 and say "good luck!" they had it specially designed by nVidia and while it may equal the power of a 7800 or 7900 it's architecture is different and it is designed to work in a different way that your standard PC graphics card (working with the cell etc.)

Blu Ray was a good decision anyway. It won the format war because of PS3 probably. It already is a great gaming machine to those who like the games on it.
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SIT(Sony, IBM and Toshiba) has been working on the Cell since 2002 I believe.