I was thinking about this the other day. So the 80 GB PS3 costs $400. That includes built in wireless and a Blueray player. The 360 Elite costs $400 but does not include a Blueray player or built in wireless. I have a PS3 right now which I payed $400 for but if I wanted the same experience on the 360 I would have to spend either $300 or $400 for a 360, $100 for a wireless adapter, and $60 for XBL? Thats alot more then then the PS3. Why don't people realize this? I really wish I could get a 360, I just can't afford it....
PS3 too costly?
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People know this you're very late.
I've seen people go as far to make graphs on it.
Anyway, it really depends on what you want.
If you want a 360 with no wireless and no blueray like me your doing just fine.
Wow I've never seen this arguement on system wars. Good show! Give the readers something fresh.I was thinking about this the other day. So the 80 GB PS3 costs $400. That includes built in wireless and a Blueray player. The 360 Elite costs $400 but does not include a Blueray player or built in wireless. I have a PS3 right now which I payed $400 for but if I wanted the same experience on the 360 I would have to spend either $300 or $400 for a 360, $100 for a wireless adapter, and $60 for XBL? Thats alot more then then the PS3. Why don't people realize this? I really wish I could get a 360, I just can't afford it....
chaz53132
^^^ sarcasm?
I wish this whole "list all the 360 and PS3 prices to compare and show the 360 is more expensive" threads would just get permanently stickied.
They are just made so frequently. I wonder what the actual number is, of how many of these threads are made.
I actually didn't think that - over here everyone gets an xbox because they're cheaper. Hero paid £300 for his PS3 and his 360 elite would have cost him £200 brand new (he actually won it in a competition but I've checked Game online for prices). Plus his PS3 actually broke after less than 2 years and because that's pretty rare, Sony wanted to charge him £100 for repairs bringing the grand total of 2 years gaming to £400 + games he bought.
I've always favoured PS3 over 360 in terms of what I want, but in cost I'd say a 360 is affordable whereas PS3 is something I'd only be able to afford one I'm in full-time work, hence the fact that the 360 community is made up of kids and the PS3 of adults.
when you tally it up PS3 works out cheaper in the long run
People in here will say that a PS3 at $100 - $200more is way TOO MUCH.. However paying $50 for XBL yearly is really CHEAP... thats how (lack of) logic works in SW..
Considering one gets a console and probably uses it for 3 - 5 yrs, $200 more once is not that muchwhen you're also getting a nice Blu-ray player + better/reliable hardware..
(its important though that we dont dare to include XBL costs / HDD costs with the Arcade model, cause fanboys will get highly pissed.. They love XBL games and buy/play them, they love exclusive / timed exclusive DLC for games and buy/play them, they also love playing online on the 'superior' XBL service, however somehow they dont require HDD to store such games/DLC or pay anything to play online, fanboys seem to get everything for free so an Xbox 360 Arcade model is enough to enjoy every aspect of HD gaming & features/functions on offer:P )
People in here will say that a PS3 at $100 - $200more is way TOO MUCH.. However paying $50 for XBL yearly is really CHEAP... thats how (lack of) logic works in SW..
Considering one gets a console and probably uses it for 3 - 5 yrs, $200 more once is not that muchwhen you're also getting a nice Blu-ray player + better/reliable hardware..
(its important though that we dont dare to include XBL costs / HDD costs with the Arcade model, cause fanboys will get highly pissed.. They love XBL games and buy/play them, they love exclusive / timed exclusive DLC for games and buy/play them, they also love playing online on the 'superior' XBL service, however somehow they dont require HDD to store such games/DLC or pay anything to play online, fanboys seem to get everything for free so an Xbox 360 Arcade model is enough to enjoy every aspect of HD gaming & features/functions on offer:P )
Malta_1980
This is very true and you explained it very well. To get the same experience on my 360 as I do on my PS3 (but without the blu-ray player of course), I had to spend much more than $200.
People in here will say that a PS3 at $100 - $200more is way TOO MUCH.. However paying $50 for XBL yearly is really CHEAP... thats how (lack of) logic works in SW..
Considering one gets a console and probably uses it for 3 - 5 yrs, $200 more once is not that muchwhen you're also getting a nice Blu-ray player + better/reliable hardware..
(its important though that we dont dare to include XBL costs / HDD costs with the Arcade model, cause fanboys will get highly pissed.. They love XBL games and buy/play them, they love exclusive / timed exclusive DLC for games and buy/play them, they also love playing online on the 'superior' XBL service, however somehow they dont require HDD to store such games/DLC or pay anything to play online, fanboys seem to get everything for free so an Xbox 360 Arcade model is enough to enjoy every aspect of HD gaming & features/functions on offer:P )
Pretty much what i was thinking, nicely put.[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
People in here will say that a PS3 at $100 - $200more is way TOO MUCH.. However paying $50 for XBL yearly is really CHEAP... thats how (lack of) logic works in SW..
Considering one gets a console and probably uses it for 3 - 5 yrs, $200 more once is not that muchwhen you're also getting a nice Blu-ray player + better/reliable hardware..
(its important though that we dont dare to include XBL costs / HDD costs with the Arcade model, cause fanboys will get highly pissed.. They love XBL games and buy/play them, they love exclusive / timed exclusive DLC for games and buy/play them, they also love playing online on the 'superior' XBL service, however somehow they dont require HDD to store such games/DLC or pay anything to play online, fanboys seem to get everything for free so an Xbox 360 Arcade model is enough to enjoy every aspect of HD gaming & features/functions on offer:P )
KratosTwin
This is very true and you explained it very well. To get the same experience on my 360 as I do on my PS3 (but without the blu-ray player of course), I had to spend much more than $200.
thanks :)
also notice i didnt even mention the many other multimedia functions + WiFI PS3 offers straight out of the box cause they dont relate directly to gaming.. still though there are nice extra features on offer..
I would like to get a 360 aswell, but for the price I might aswell get another ps3. That way I could have a extra bluray player for my bedroom. I mean heck after xblg the ps3 is only $50 more. Plus I would like to have what ever I do get for the bedroom, but then I would have to get a adaptor for the wifi for the 360 and then adding that ruins the whole idea of getting a 360. Much less the non existant 1st party devs for true exclusives for the 360 just makes me not get over the fact I would be getting a 360 literally for a handful of games if that many.
So I think I'll just get another ps3 for the bedroom, free online, wifi built in since my router is in the den, can share my existing downloadable content, bluray player, amoung other things for a mere $50 more.
What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
I would like to get a 360 aswell, but for the price I might aswell get another ps3. That way I could have a extra bluray player for my bedroom. I mean heck after xblg the ps3 is only $50 more. Plus I would like to have what ever I do get for the bedroom, but then I would have to get a adaptor for the wifi for the 360 and then adding that ruins the whole idea of getting a 360. Much less the non existant 1st party devs for true exclusives for the 360 just makes me not get over the fact I would be getting a 360 literally for a handful of games if that many.
So I think I'll just get another ps3 for the bedroom, free online, wifi built in since my router is in the den, can share my existing downloadable content, bluray player, amoung other things for a mere $50 more.
GreyFoXX4
With the amount of time you spend slamming on the 360, just quit trying to delude anyone into thinking you are not a Sony fanboy....
1. Already have Blu Ray player on PC.
2. Router is 2 feet away from Xbox 360.
3. Have paid no more than $30 for Xbox Live 12 Month Subsciptions.
shawn7324
Case in point. You can totally shred TC's paper thin argument. Sony fanboys are just desperate because they can't face the reality that nobody wants there system...
What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
MizFitAwesome
Dude you need to open you eyes and read my previous posts.. Wifi & Blu-ray are not needed to play games however an HDD & XBL online fees are needed if you want to play online & download XBL games / DLC.. Now add XBL costs + HDD + controller batteries /batt charge unitand you tell me after 3 yrs whether or not you spent $200 less on the Arcade model compared to PS3..
its a FACT that a $199 Arcade model doesnt (REPEAT DOESNT) give you the full Gaming Experience.. you cannot play online unless paying for XBL and you cannot enjoy the XBL games / DLC (GTa4, Fable2, Fallout etc etc) or else map packs for the likes of (Halo3, Geow2, COD4, WAW etc etc) unless you buy an HDD.. Didnt fanboys say that they get consoles for gaming, so why loose on such important aspects of gaming????
but if you're happy to spend $60 on Halo3, Geow2& many othersjust for the (6 - 8 hrs) sp campaign and not for the countless hours of online fun, then goodluck to you :)
maybe the reason for the bad sales are not price related, it could be... game related. but if you want to think about it in terms of price the cheapest xbox is 199 not 300, and you dont need a wireless adapterI was thinking about this the other day. So the 80 GB PS3 costs $400. That includes built in wireless and a Blueray player. The 360 Elite costs $400 but does not include a Blueray player or built in wireless. I have a PS3 right now which I payed $400 for but if I wanted the same experience on the 360 I would have to spend either $300 or $400 for a 360, $100 for a wireless adapter, and $60 for XBL? Thats alot more then then the PS3. Why don't people realize this? I really wish I could get a 360, I just can't afford it....
chaz53132
1. Already have Blu Ray player on PC. - so you did pay an X mount of money to get a Blu-ray player...
2. Router is 2 feet away from Xbox 360. - and what that makes suddenly WiFi useless?
3. Have paid no more than $30 for Xbox Live 12 Month Subsciptions. - so you planned to play XBL only for 12 months then stop?
shawn7324
Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360?What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
MizFitAwesome
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
Malta_1980
Dude you need to open you eyes and read my previous posts.. Wifi & Blu-ray are not needed to play games however an HDD & XBL online fees are needed if you want to play online & download XBL games / DLC.. Now add XBL costs + HDD + controller batteries /batt charge unitand you tell me after 3 yrs whether or not you spent $200 less on the Arcade model compared to PS3..
its a FACT that a $199 Arcade model doesnt (REPEAT DOESNT) give you the full Gaming Experience.. you cannot play online unless paying for XBL and you cannot enjoy the XBL games / DLC (GTa4, Fable2, Fallout etc etc) or else map packs for the likes of (Halo3, Geow2, COD4, WAW etc etc)..
but if you're happy to spend $60 on Halo3, Geow2& many othersjust for the (6 - 8 hrs) sp campaign and not for the countless hours of online fun, then goodluck to you :)
Not everyone in the world is buy an Arcade model so your argument is fail...
[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
MizFitAwesome
Dude you need to open you eyes and read my previous posts.. Wifi & Blu-ray are not needed to play games however an HDD & XBL online fees are needed if you want to play online & download XBL games / DLC.. Now add XBL costs + HDD + controller batteries /batt charge unitand you tell me after 3 yrs whether or not you spent $200 less on the Arcade model compared to PS3..
its a FACT that a $199 Arcade model doesnt (REPEAT DOESNT) give you the full Gaming Experience.. you cannot play online unless paying for XBL and you cannot enjoy the XBL games / DLC (GTa4, Fable2, Fallout etc etc) or else map packs for the likes of (Halo3, Geow2, COD4, WAW etc etc)..
but if you're happy to spend $60 on Halo3, Geow2& many othersjust for the (6 - 8 hrs) sp campaign and not for the countless hours of online fun, then goodluck to you :)
Not everyone in the world is buy an Arcade model so your argument is fail...
you just made my point valid, not everyone buys an arcade model for a very good reason :)
if the arcade model was enough to experience anything (repeat ANYTHING)gaming related then there would be no use for the other (more expensive) SKU's...
you're just blinded with your hate towards PS3 and have no valid arguments..
PC came with Blu Ray player, Use ethernet cable to hook up 360, & have been on Xbox Live since 2006.[QUOTE="shawn7324"]
1. Already have Blu Ray player on PC. - so you did pay an X mount of money to get a Blu-ray player...
2. Router is 2 feet away from Xbox 360. - and what that makes suddenly WiFi useless?
3. Have paid no more than $30 for Xbox Live 12 Month Subsciptions. - so you planned to play XBL only for 12 months then stop?
Malta_1980
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360?What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
GreyFoXX4
Um, wired connection is faster and most people don't care what games are coming as long as they get games. Want to continue or just accept your loss?
[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]PC came with Blu Ray player, Use ethernet cable to hook up 360, & have been on Xbox Live since 2006.[QUOTE="shawn7324"]
1. Already have Blu Ray player on PC. - so you did pay an X mount of money to get a Blu-ray player...
2. Router is 2 feet away from Xbox 360. - and what that makes suddenly WiFi useless?
3. Have paid no more than $30 for Xbox Live 12 Month Subsciptions. - so you planned to play XBL only for 12 months then stop?
shawn7324
so you're telling me you bought a PC and gave you the Blu-ray player for free?? guess you paid for it too. am i right?
WiFi as i said previously is not essential for gaming, its an option which should you change to it on Ps3 is already set up with built in WIFI while 360 you have to spend extra money.. you've been on XBL since 2006 so you didnt spend just $30, you already spent over $90 just for an online service others offer for free..
[QUOTE="shawn7324"]
1. Already have Blu Ray player on PC.
2. Router is 2 feet away from Xbox 360.
3. Have paid no more than $30 for Xbox Live 12 Month Subsciptions.
MizFitAwesome
Case in point. You can totally shred TC's paper thin argument. Sony fanboys are just desperate because they can't face the reality that nobody wants there system...
LOL, MS is literally having to give the 360 ($200 360) away to hold back sales for the ps3. Good try though. I promise, once a price drop comes for the ps3 it is going to out sale the 360 to 1/4 to 1/2 more in sales. So 200,000 360's will be 250-300,000 ps3's sold. Mark my words and thats a light esitimate.[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360? Not sure what your talking about man, I watch my Blu Ray on PC through my Sony LCD HDTV.What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
GreyFoXX4
Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360?[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
MizFitAwesome
Um, wired connection is faster and most people don't care what games are coming as long as they get games. Want to continue or just accept your loss?
Lmao, people don't care about what games but really care about the .000001 ms difference between hardline and wifi? Dude I've used wifi for atleast 2 years on pc and there is literally NO difference that joe blow is going to see. Maybe for pros and maybe a person that feels better knowing its hardline is the only people it actually helps. But for normal gaming wifi is definitly acceptable, don't act like your a pro or something you just play on the 360 dude lol.
No.
It's this simple. THE XBOX IS CHEAPER. See?
None of the "if you want the same experiance" garbage. That's essentaily saying a skateboard is more expensive then a bike, cause to turn it into a bike it costs extra.
The consoles are not, and never will be the same. Neither will the experiance, no matter how much money you put into it.
If i want the Xbox Experiance on the PS3, how am i to do that? Pay sony to make PSN good? Then make them purchase Halo?
Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360?GreyFoXX4
Um, wired connection is faster and most people don't care what games are coming as long as they get games. Want to continue or just accept your loss?
Lmao, people don't care about what games but really care about the .000001 ms difference between hardline and wifi? Dude I've used wifi for atleast 2 years on pc and there is literally NO difference that joe blow is going to see. Maybe for pros and maybe a person that feels better knowing its hardline is the only people it actually helps. But for normal gaming wifi is definitly acceptable, don't act like your a pro or something you just play on the 360 dude lol. Yes, there is alto of difference, especially whilst gaming online. Its seems 9/10 of your posts are just nonsense. You can't stream to yout 500inch plasma, from your PC? And you said he was in the stone age ... Fact is, and the customer has decided. The PS3 is too expensive. No one cares if it contains teh cell and Blu-ray. It could be lined with gold, no one opens it and cares.[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360? Not sure what your talking about man, I watch my Blu Ray on PC through my Sony LCD HDTV. In my orginal post you would see that I was talking about having a bluray player in my bedroom. So since my pc is in the den it does me no good. But having playon on my pc I can stream to my new ps3 in the bedroom to watch netflix, youtube, hulu, watch my movies off of my pc aswell at chk out my music and pictures. Aswell as having basically the best if not the best bluray player on the market in my room and oh did I mention the games I can play on the ps3 aswell lol.What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
shawn7324
Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360?[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
MizFitAwesome
Um, wired connection is faster and most people don't care what games are coming as long as they get games. Want to continue or just accept your loss?
Did you just say that people don't care what game they buy as long as they buy a game? WTF. :S Do you want to accept that you make no sense at all and that you are also being a fanboy? Though i agree that wired connection is faster, and even more stable - but as mentioned before, your regular person isn't going to notice."look at how cheap the ps3 is" says all the guys that had to buy rumble for $55 a bluetooth headset for $50 and hi-def cables for $30....
btw, idk why i bothered to respond here, i don't judge what people do with the money they earn, it's theirs and they can spend it how they like...i guess i just like pointing out hypocrites.
[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360?GreyFoXX4Not sure what your talking about man, I watch my Blu Ray on PC through my Sony LCD HDTV. In my orginal post you would see that I was talking about having a bluray player in my bedroom. So since my pc is in the den it does me no good. But having playon on my pc I can stream to my new ps3 in the bedroom to watch netflix, youtube, hulu, watch my movies off of my pc aswell at chk out my music and pictures. Aswell as having basically the best if not the best bluray player on the market in my room and oh did I mention the games I can play on the ps3 aswell lol. You cows are thinking of this using a System Wars mindset. How many people in REAL LIFE care about all thses things? If i were to ask my mum, sister, cousin, grandmother,brother what blu-ray was, would they even know? What makes you think they're willing to shell out extra for a console that has this magic blu ray? Maybe for the "hardcore" gamer, who wants to watch hi def movies, and is too lazy to switch disks, the PS3 is perfect. To everyone else ... yeaaaah
[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]Lmao, people don't care about what games but really care about the .000001 ms difference between hardline and wifi? Dude I've used wifi for atleast 2 years on pc and there is literally NO difference that joe blow is going to see. Maybe for pros and maybe a person that feels better knowing its hardline is the only people it actually helps. But for normal gaming wifi is definitly acceptable, don't act like your a pro or something you just play on the 360 dude lol. Yes, there is alto of difference, especially whilst gaming online. Its seems 9/10 of your posts are just nonsense. You can't stream to yout 500inch plasma, from your PC? And you said he was in the stone age ... Fact is, and the customer has decided. The PS3 is too expensive. No one cares if it contains teh cell and Blu-ray. It could be lined with gold, no one opens it and cares.Um, wired connection is faster and most people don't care what games are coming as long as they get games. Want to continue or just accept your loss?
-Snooze-
You talking about streaming bluray content? But yet think theres alot of difference in gaming online using wifi? Geez get yall stories straight please.
And experience xbl on psn how that can be done? Geez make it free thats how lol.
Oh man yea why not get a standalone bluray player for $100 less than a ps3 :roll: While I'm at it I might as well watch my bluray's on my pc on a 22" screen instead of my 50" Sammy plasma :roll: And oh yea I forgot I'm in the midevil ages where wireless routers don't exist and why do I need something that everyone else doesn't need :roll: And losing every argument so badly? Hows those new ip's coming for the 360?GreyFoXX4
Um, wired connection is faster and most people don't care what games are coming as long as they get games. Want to continue or just accept your loss?
Did you just say that people don't care what game they buy as long as they buy a game? WTF. :S Do you want to accept that you make no sense at all and that you are also being a fanboy? Though i agree that wired connection is faster, and even more stable - but as mentioned before, your regular person isn't going to notice. He said most gamers, you know, the "evil casual" ones don't care what agmes are "ccoming" out. As in they don't patroll the internet for news on X game. They just see whats in the shop and buy it if it suits them. Most gamers dont care for new IP's Obviously Ps3 owners don't either, judging by the poor sales.[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]
What's funny about threads like this is how you Sony fanboys continue to presume that EVERY gamer in the world NEEDS wifi and wants Bluray and 'multimedia' functions. Surprse people, there are consumers out there that see through Sony's marketing overhype. If someone wants Bluray so bad, why not either buy a player for their PC or get a stand alone?
Seriously, can you guys even try to come up with a better argument, since you are losing every argument so badly?
MizFitAwesome
Dude you need to open you eyes and read my previous posts.. Wifi & Blu-ray are not needed to play games however an HDD & XBL online fees are needed if you want to play online & download XBL games / DLC.. Now add XBL costs + HDD + controller batteries /batt charge unitand you tell me after 3 yrs whether or not you spent $200 less on the Arcade model compared to PS3..
its a FACT that a $199 Arcade model doesnt (REPEAT DOESNT) give you the full Gaming Experience.. you cannot play online unless paying for XBL and you cannot enjoy the XBL games / DLC (GTa4, Fable2, Fallout etc etc) or else map packs for the likes of (Halo3, Geow2, COD4, WAW etc etc)..
but if you're happy to spend $60 on Halo3, Geow2& many othersjust for the (6 - 8 hrs) sp campaign and not for the countless hours of online fun, then goodluck to you :)
Not everyone in the world is buy an Arcade model so your argument is fail...
Wow, i can say the same kind of comment towards your first post in this thread. Not everyone wouldn't want a built in Blu-ray player! I'll make you a bet, that even those people that bought a PS3 for just the games will at least buy some Blu-ray movies, so they can watch on there PS3. Didn't you ever watch DVD's on your PS2? Even when you most likely had a DVD player as well (If this doesn't apply to you, then I am still sure it would apply to many other people).[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="shawn7324"] Not sure what your talking about man, I watch my Blu Ray on PC through my Sony LCD HDTV.-Snooze-In my orginal post you would see that I was talking about having a bluray player in my bedroom. So since my pc is in the den it does me no good. But having playon on my pc I can stream to my new ps3 in the bedroom to watch netflix, youtube, hulu, watch my movies off of my pc aswell at chk out my music and pictures. Aswell as having basically the best if not the best bluray player on the market in my room and oh did I mention the games I can play on the ps3 aswell lol. You cows are thinking of this using a System Wars mindset. How many people in REAL LIFE care about all thses things? If i were to ask my mum, sister, cousin, grandmother,brother what blu-ray was, would they even know? What makes you think they're willing to shell out extra for a console that has this magic blu ray? Maybe for the "hardcore" gamer, who wants to watch hi def movies, and is too lazy to switch disks, the PS3 is perfect. To everyone else ... yeaaaah I know my cousins know about it, but my mum (wth) and grandmother don't know what a ps3 nor a 360 is, so whats your point lol.
[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]Did you just say that people don't care what game they buy as long as they buy a game? WTF. :S Do you want to accept that you make no sense at all and that you are also being a fanboy? Though i agree that wired connection is faster, and even more stable - but as mentioned before, your regular person isn't going to notice. He said most gamers, you know, the "evil casual" ones don't care what agmes are "ccoming" out. As in they don't patroll the internet for news on X game. They just see whats in the shop and buy it if it suits them. Most gamers dont care for new IP's Obviously Ps3 owners don't either, judging by the poor sales.Um, wired connection is faster and most people don't care what games are coming as long as they get games. Want to continue or just accept your loss?
-Snooze-
Even casual gamers decide over games, they don't just go up to a game and go "I want it, lets go buy" without even reading the back to find out the story or features. Casual's care about what games they buy, and you don't need to be a hardcore gamer to go to a website and just read a review, or go and ask a friend if a game is good or not.
Yea, PS3 owners don't care about games as well, haha - that is funny. :P
[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]
Dude you need to open you eyes and read my previous posts.. Wifi & Blu-ray are not needed to play games however an HDD & XBL online fees are needed if you want to play online & download XBL games / DLC.. Now add XBL costs + HDD + controller batteries /batt charge unitand you tell me after 3 yrs whether or not you spent $200 less on the Arcade model compared to PS3..
its a FACT that a $199 Arcade model doesnt (REPEAT DOESNT) give you the full Gaming Experience.. you cannot play online unless paying for XBL and you cannot enjoy the XBL games / DLC (GTa4, Fable2, Fallout etc etc) or else map packs for the likes of (Halo3, Geow2, COD4, WAW etc etc)..
but if you're happy to spend $60 on Halo3, Geow2& many othersjust for the (6 - 8 hrs) sp campaign and not for the countless hours of online fun, then goodluck to you :)
Not everyone in the world is buy an Arcade model so your argument is fail...
Wow, i can say the same kind of comment towards your first post in this thread. Not everyone wouldn't want a built in Blu-ray player! I'll make you a bet, that even those people that bought a PS3 for just the games will at least buy some Blu-ray movies, so they can watch on there PS3. Didn't you ever watch DVD's on your PS2? Even when you most likely had a DVD player as well (If this doesn't apply to you, then I am still sure it would apply to many other people). Yeah, they MAY use the blu-ray player once, just 'cause it's there. However i'm sure if you gave them the choice of PS3 without the abiltiy to play movies, but for $100 less, then they'd pick that.He said most gamers, you know, the "evil casual" ones don't care what agmes are "ccoming" out. As in they don't patroll the internet for news on X game. They just see whats in the shop and buy it if it suits them. Most gamers dont care for new IP's Obviously Ps3 owners don't either, judging by the poor sales.[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="mgs_freak91"] Did you just say that people don't care what game they buy as long as they buy a game? WTF. :S Do you want to accept that you make no sense at all and that you are also being a fanboy? Though i agree that wired connection is faster, and even more stable - but as mentioned before, your regular person isn't going to notice.mgs_freak91
Even casual gamers decide over games, they don't just go up to a game and go "I want it, lets go buy" without even reading the back to find out the story or features. Casual's care about what games they buy, and you don't need to be a hardcore gamer to go to a website and just read a review, or go and ask a friend if a game is good or not.
Yea, PS3 owners don't care about games as well, haha - that is funny. :P
Yes they care, however they don't go on the internet to read about previews and count the days till GOD of WAR 3 is released. They'd see it advertsed upon release and buy it. Asking a friend or reading a review isnt the same as waiting for a game to be released. They care about what games are out NOW, or some time this month. Not what new IP is released in 2010. And yes, it's obvious few PS3 owners care about New IP's. Look at the sales. Your opinion and sarcasm do not negate facts.[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="shawn7324"] Not sure what your talking about man, I watch my Blu Ray on PC through my Sony LCD HDTV.-Snooze-In my orginal post you would see that I was talking about having a bluray player in my bedroom. So since my pc is in the den it does me no good. But having playon on my pc I can stream to my new ps3 in the bedroom to watch netflix, youtube, hulu, watch my movies off of my pc aswell at chk out my music and pictures. Aswell as having basically the best if not the best bluray player on the market in my room and oh did I mention the games I can play on the ps3 aswell lol. You cows are thinking of this using a System Wars mindset. How many people in REAL LIFE care about all thses things? If i were to ask my mum, sister, cousin, grandmother,brother what blu-ray was, would they even know? What makes you think they're willing to shell out extra for a console that has this magic blu ray? Maybe for the "hardcore" gamer, who wants to watch hi def movies, and is too lazy to switch disks, the PS3 is perfect. To everyone else ... yeaaaah You don't need to be a hardcore game to watch HD movies :S. My dad went and bought a HD TV, is it because he wants to play games? No. The only game he has ever played is Solitaire (comes on the PC free). Though HD products are more targeted at a specific group, but now a days most things are. In HD's case i would say more around gen X and Y. The only console that is targeted at something more broad would be the Wii - aimed at kids, older people, even those "hardcore" gamers that just want to get mates around the TV and have some fun. With that said, how old are your sister, cousin and brother? Do you really think they won't know what Blu-ray was. Depends on the age, that's my point.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] In my orginal post you would see that I was talking about having a bluray player in my bedroom. So since my pc is in the den it does me no good. But having playon on my pc I can stream to my new ps3 in the bedroom to watch netflix, youtube, hulu, watch my movies off of my pc aswell at chk out my music and pictures. Aswell as having basically the best if not the best bluray player on the market in my room and oh did I mention the games I can play on the ps3 aswell lol.mgs_freak91You cows are thinking of this using a System Wars mindset. How many people in REAL LIFE care about all thses things? If i were to ask my mum, sister, cousin, grandmother,brother what blu-ray was, would they even know? What makes you think they're willing to shell out extra for a console that has this magic blu ray? Maybe for the "hardcore" gamer, who wants to watch hi def movies, and is too lazy to switch disks, the PS3 is perfect. To everyone else ... yeaaaah You don't need to be a hardcore game to watch HD movies :S. My dad went and bought a HD TV, is it because he wants to play games? No. The only game he has ever played is Solitaire (comes on the PC free). Though HD products are more targeted at a specific group, but now a days most things are. In HD's case i would say more around gen X and Y. The only console that is targeted at something more broad would be the Wii - aimed at kids, older people, even those "hardcore" gamers that just want to get mates around the TV and have some fun. With that said, how old are your sister, cousin and brother? Do you really think they won't know what Blu-ray was. Depends on the age, that's my point. I know for a fact they have no idea what Blu-Ray is. They have HD tv's, but they won't see paying over the odds for a blu-ray player a good move. They may watch a movie on it for the simple fact it's there, but as is aid, given the choice, im sure they'd prefer to pay less, and omit that feature.
[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] He said most gamers, you know, the "evil casual" ones don't care what agmes are "ccoming" out. As in they don't patroll the internet for news on X game. They just see whats in the shop and buy it if it suits them. Most gamers dont care for new IP's Obviously Ps3 owners don't either, judging by the poor sales.-Snooze-
Even casual gamers decide over games, they don't just go up to a game and go "I want it, lets go buy" without even reading the back to find out the story or features. Casual's care about what games they buy, and you don't need to be a hardcore gamer to go to a website and just read a review, or go and ask a friend if a game is good or not.
Yea, PS3 owners don't care about games as well, haha - that is funny. :P
Yes they care, however they don't go on the internet to read about previews and count the days till GOD of WAR 3 is released. They'd see it advertsed upon release and buy it. Asking a friend or reading a review isnt the same as waiting for a game to be released. They care about what games are out NOW, or some time this month. Not what new IP is released in 2010. And yes, it's obvious few PS3 owners care about New IP's. Look at the sales. Your opinion and sarcasm do not negate facts. I never said that Casual's count down the days until a game comes out, but they sure don't just pick up a game for the sake of playing one! You don't see it because you are a more general gamer. My sister doesn't play games, she hates all games except Sims. But even then she went and watched a review of the game. She was set after that, I'm not saying that people are not easily convinced. She went and bought it. Hell she even knew that the game was at least coming out in June. My point was that they don't just grab a game and buy - whether they read the back of the case, watch a review, ask a friend or even see an advertisement and check it out, they ALWAYS argue whether to buy it or not. Whether it will satisfy them, whether the game will last till there next POSSIBLE purchase![QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] You cows are thinking of this using a System Wars mindset. How many people in REAL LIFE care about all thses things? If i were to ask my mum, sister, cousin, grandmother,brother what blu-ray was, would they even know? What makes you think they're willing to shell out extra for a console that has this magic blu ray? Maybe for the "hardcore" gamer, who wants to watch hi def movies, and is too lazy to switch disks, the PS3 is perfect. To everyone else ... yeaaaah-Snooze-You don't need to be a hardcore game to watch HD movies :S. My dad went and bought a HD TV, is it because he wants to play games? No. The only game he has ever played is Solitaire (comes on the PC free). Though HD products are more targeted at a specific group, but now a days most things are. In HD's case i would say more around gen X and Y. The only console that is targeted at something more broad would be the Wii - aimed at kids, older people, even those "hardcore" gamers that just want to get mates around the TV and have some fun. With that said, how old are your sister, cousin and brother? Do you really think they won't know what Blu-ray was. Depends on the age, that's my point. I know for a fact they have no idea what Blu-Ray is. They have HD tv's, but they won't see paying over the odds for a blu-ray player a good move. They may watch a movie on it for the simple fact it's there, but as is aid, given the choice, im sure they'd prefer to pay less, and omit that feature. So they know what Blu-ray is? The know it's not something that is worth the price, so they know not to get it? How can you say otherwise if they haven't even heard of the thing? Either way, Blu-ray isn't for the "hardcore" gamers, it's just those that are in touch with technology - therefore those born as gen X or Y. I'm just saying that age is a big part in someone's knowledge, it always has been.
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="mgs_freak91"] You don't need to be a hardcore game to watch HD movies :S. My dad went and bought a HD TV, is it because he wants to play games? No. The only game he has ever played is Solitaire (comes on the PC free). Though HD products are more targeted at a specific group, but now a days most things are. In HD's case i would say more around gen X and Y. The only console that is targeted at something more broad would be the Wii - aimed at kids, older people, even those "hardcore" gamers that just want to get mates around the TV and have some fun. With that said, how old are your sister, cousin and brother? Do you really think they won't know what Blu-ray was. Depends on the age, that's my point.mgs_freak91I know for a fact they have no idea what Blu-Ray is. They have HD tv's, but they won't see paying over the odds for a blu-ray player a good move. They may watch a movie on it for the simple fact it's there, but as is aid, given the choice, im sure they'd prefer to pay less, and omit that feature. So they know what Blu-ray is? The know it's not something that is worth the price, so they know not to get it? How can you say otherwise if they haven't even heard of the thing? Either way, Blu-ray isn't for the "hardcore" gamers, it's just those that are in touch with technology - therefore those born as gen X or Y. I'm just saying that age is a big part in someone's knowledge, it always has been. No they don't know what it is, but paying that much money to watch movies you've already seen with a some visual enhancement isn't practical for most people. So i can safely say they wont be intersted.
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