PS3 vs. 360 graphics debate should end already. 360 has won. REVISED?

Lets look at this on the FLIP SIDE.

Mass Effect says NO!!!

Gears Of War 1 says NO Gears Of War 2 will say H*LL NO!!!

Fable 2 from what we have seen utterly destroys Uncharted.

Hmmm Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone:roll: You'd be a fool to say that game does not look incredible.

PS3 has not even beat PDZ textures as of yet. And PDZ is a 360 launch game.

So please PS3 has won NOTHING.

Oh and wait PGR4 why yes does not have as nice of car models. But PGR4 has WAY WAY better environment graphics.

Again PS3 has won NOTHING PERIOD.

Joke thread? Fable 2 looks average graphically at best, even the art work pics posted don't look special...looks like Hard To Be A God really...

Joke thread? Fable 2 looks average graphically at best, even the art work pics posted don't look special...looks like Hard To Be A God really...

Andrew_Xavier

Have you even watched the HD developer video on Marketplace. The graphics are SICK. Are you kidding me:roll:

lets end this...

I WIN, don't stoop to their level

Lets look at this on the FLIP SIDE.

Mass Effect says NO!!!

Gears Of War 1 says NO Gears Of War 2 will say H*LL NO!!!

Fable 2 from what we have seen utterly destroys Uncharted.

Hmmm Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone:roll: You'd be a fool to say that game does look incredible.

PS3 has not even beat PDZ textures as of yet. And PDZ is a 360 launch game.

So please PS3 has won NOTHING.

Oh and wait PGR4 why yes does not have as nice of car models. But PGR4 has WAY WAY better environment graphics.

Again PS3 has won NOTHING PERIOD.

Eddie_Munster08

This doesnt work at all......

1. Fable 2 does NOT look better than Uncharted.
2. Ninja Gaiden 2 while smooth and fluid is not even in the top 5. I have Sigma for PS3 and theyre similar...I wouldnt consider Sigma top 5 even on the PS3 library.
3. Oblivion beats PDZ textures.....PDZ is just an overuse of bumpmapping....nothing really spectacular.
4. PGR4 over an unfinished GT5? No just no. maybe you should look at the PGR4 vs GT5P London comparison again.

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Lets look at this on the FLIP SIDE.

Mass Effect says NO!!!

Gears Of War 1 says NO Gears Of War 2 will say H*LL NO!!!

Fable 2 from what we have seen utterly destroys Uncharted.

Hmmm Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone:roll: You'd be a fool to say that game does look incredible.

PS3 has not even beat PDZ textures as of yet. And PDZ is a 360 launch game.

So please PS3 has won NOTHING.

Oh and wait PGR4 why yes does not have as nice of car models. But PGR4 has WAY WAY better environment graphics.

Again PS3 has won NOTHING PERIOD.

Uptown

This doesnt work at all......

1. Fable 2 does NOT look better than Uncharted.
2. Ninja Gaiden 2 while smooth and fluid is not even in the top 5. I have Sigma for PS3 and theyre similar...I wouldnt consider Sigma top 5 even on the PS3 library.
3. Oblivion beats PDZ textures.....PDZ is just an overuse of bumpmapping....nothing really spectacular.
4. PGR4 over an unfinished GT5? No just no. maybe you should look at the PGR4 vs GT5P London comparison again.

NG2 kills Sigma And go watch a decent HD video of Fable 2 on Market place on a nice HD tv. It kills Uncharted. Or at worst is as good or better then uncharted. Mass Effect again really this game does not get mention enough but most of the graphics in that game kill all PS3 games. I see no one wants to touch Gears 2 becuase we all know the graphics king is ah coming;)

[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Lets look at this on the FLIP SIDE.

Mass Effect says NO!!!

Gears Of War 1 says NO Gears Of War 2 will say H*LL NO!!!

Fable 2 from what we have seen utterly destroys Uncharted.

Hmmm Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone:roll: You'd be a fool to say that game does look incredible.

PS3 has not even beat PDZ textures as of yet. And PDZ is a 360 launch game.

So please PS3 has won NOTHING.

Oh and wait PGR4 why yes does not have as nice of car models. But PGR4 has WAY WAY better environment graphics.

Again PS3 has won NOTHING PERIOD.

Eddie_Munster08

This doesnt work at all......

1. Fable 2 does NOT look better than Uncharted.
2. Ninja Gaiden 2 while smooth and fluid is not even in the top 5. I have Sigma for PS3 and theyre similar...I wouldnt consider Sigma top 5 even on the PS3 library.
3. Oblivion beats PDZ textures.....PDZ is just an overuse of bumpmapping....nothing really spectacular.
4. PGR4 over an unfinished GT5? No just no. maybe you should look at the PGR4 vs GT5P London comparison again.

NG2 kills Sigma And go watch a decent HD video of Fable 2 on Market place on a nice HD tv. It kills Uncharted. Or at worst is as good or better then uncharted. Mass Effect again really this game does not get mention enough but most of the graphics in that game kill all PS3 games. I see no one wants to touch Gears 2 becuase we all know the graphics king is ah coming;)

I've watched the fable 2 video on my hd, the same one I've played uncharted one, uncharted looks vastly superior, fable 2 looks average.

If any X360 game is going to beat Uncharted graphically, it's going to be Mass Effect 2, the first was spectacular.

[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Lets look at this on the FLIP SIDE.

Mass Effect says NO!!!

Gears Of War 1 says NO Gears Of War 2 will say H*LL NO!!!

Fable 2 from what we have seen utterly destroys Uncharted.

Hmmm Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone:roll: You'd be a fool to say that game does look incredible.

PS3 has not even beat PDZ textures as of yet. And PDZ is a 360 launch game.

So please PS3 has won NOTHING.

Oh and wait PGR4 why yes does not have as nice of car models. But PGR4 has WAY WAY better environment graphics.

Again PS3 has won NOTHING PERIOD.

Eddie_Munster08

This doesnt work at all......

1. Fable 2 does NOT look better than Uncharted.
2. Ninja Gaiden 2 while smooth and fluid is not even in the top 5. I have Sigma for PS3 and theyre similar...I wouldnt consider Sigma top 5 even on the PS3 library.
3. Oblivion beats PDZ textures.....PDZ is just an overuse of bumpmapping....nothing really spectacular.
4. PGR4 over an unfinished GT5? No just no. maybe you should look at the PGR4 vs GT5P London comparison again.

NG2 kills Sigma And go watch a decent HD video of Fable 2 on Market place on a nice HD tv. It kills Uncharted. Or at worst is as good or better then uncharted. Mass Effect again really this game does not get mention enough but most of the graphics in that game kill all PS3 games. I see no one wants to touch Gears 2 becuase we all know the graphics king is ah coming;)

That's right, it's ah coming. Not ah here.

i'm gonna post what i posted in the last thread:

does anyone else here think that the difference is negligible?

That's your opinion... personally I feel like Ps3 has superior graphics...

Uncharted / Ratchet&Clank / GT5P / Heavenly sword are just an example why I think they are superior, keeping in mind that 3 of these games came out with the 1st wave of PS3 titles, meaning devs were still getting used to the PS3's architecture...

But everyone has the right to express his opinion so its fine with me that many believe that Xbox360 has better graphic capabilities...

PSN ID: anubis1980

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Lets look at this on the FLIP SIDE.

Mass Effect says NO!!!

Gears Of War 1 says NO Gears Of War 2 will say H*LL NO!!!

Fable 2 from what we have seen utterly destroys Uncharted.

Hmmm Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone:roll: You'd be a fool to say that game does look incredible.

PS3 has not even beat PDZ textures as of yet. And PDZ is a 360 launch game.

So please PS3 has won NOTHING.

Oh and wait PGR4 why yes does not have as nice of car models. But PGR4 has WAY WAY better environment graphics.

Again PS3 has won NOTHING PERIOD.

Andrew_Xavier

This doesnt work at all......

1. Fable 2 does NOT look better than Uncharted.
2. Ninja Gaiden 2 while smooth and fluid is not even in the top 5. I have Sigma for PS3 and theyre similar...I wouldnt consider Sigma top 5 even on the PS3 library.
3. Oblivion beats PDZ textures.....PDZ is just an overuse of bumpmapping....nothing really spectacular.
4. PGR4 over an unfinished GT5? No just no. maybe you should look at the PGR4 vs GT5P London comparison again.

NG2 kills Sigma And go watch a decent HD video of Fable 2 on Market place on a nice HD tv. It kills Uncharted. Or at worst is as good or better then uncharted. Mass Effect again really this game does not get mention enough but most of the graphics in that game kill all PS3 games. I see no one wants to touch Gears 2 becuase we all know the graphics king is ah coming;)

I've watched the fable 2 video on my hd, the same one I've played uncharted one, uncharted looks vastly superior, fable 2 looks average.

If any X360 game is going to beat Uncharted graphically, it's going to be Mass Effect 2, the first was spectacular.

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Lets look at this on the FLIP SIDE.

Mass Effect says NO!!!

Gears Of War 1 says NO Gears Of War 2 will say H*LL NO!!!

Fable 2 from what we have seen utterly destroys Uncharted.

Hmmm Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone:roll: You'd be a fool to say that game does look incredible.

PS3 has not even beat PDZ textures as of yet. And PDZ is a 360 launch game.

So please PS3 has won NOTHING.

Oh and wait PGR4 why yes does not have as nice of car models. But PGR4 has WAY WAY better environment graphics.

Again PS3 has won NOTHING PERIOD.

Andrew_Xavier

This doesnt work at all......

1. Fable 2 does NOT look better than Uncharted.
2. Ninja Gaiden 2 while smooth and fluid is not even in the top 5. I have Sigma for PS3 and theyre similar...I wouldnt consider Sigma top 5 even on the PS3 library.
3. Oblivion beats PDZ textures.....PDZ is just an overuse of bumpmapping....nothing really spectacular.
4. PGR4 over an unfinished GT5? No just no. maybe you should look at the PGR4 vs GT5P London comparison again.

NG2 kills Sigma And go watch a decent HD video of Fable 2 on Market place on a nice HD tv. It kills Uncharted. Or at worst is as good or better then uncharted. Mass Effect again really this game does not get mention enough but most of the graphics in that game kill all PS3 games. I see no one wants to touch Gears 2 becuase we all know the graphics king is ah coming;)

I've watched the fable 2 video on my hd, the same one I've played uncharted one, uncharted looks vastly superior, fable 2 looks average.

If any X360 game is going to beat Uncharted graphically, it's going to be Mass Effect 2, the first was spectacular.

I have a very similar anxiety when it comes to Mass Effect 2, as compared to back when I was waiting for Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars: Return of the Jedi. I want to dive back into that world in a most fanatical way. :D

Sorry, I know its a bit off topic, but you went and mentioned the game, and I got a bit anxious there. ;)

i'm gonna post what i posted in the last thread:

does anyone else here think that the difference is negligible?

clone01

I do!!! Really let's stop this. Multiplats look identical on ps3/360 (burnout paradise) Beside good graphics does not mean good game. Unless you're a brainwashed fanboy

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Eddie_Munster08

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Andrew_Xavier

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

I mean be honestly if this looks ave to you. Then what do you have a modded PS3 with quad SLI RSX in it?

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Andrew_Xavier

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

Anybody hyping Fable2 for graphics is going to be disappointed. Actually there is a good chance the whole game is going to disappoint. Molyneux hasn't made a good game since Populous.

because i like posting screenshots:crunchUK

Of course pick the absalute worst trashyiest screen shot you can find and post it. Like we have not seen this attemped a BILLION TIMES.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

EmperorSupreme

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

Anybody hyping Fable2 for graphics is going to be disappointed. Actually there is a good chance the whole game is going to disappoint. Molyneux hasn't made a good game since Populous.

Hmm GameSpot scored Fable 8.6 and great. And many others agree. Why yes it did not do everything they wanted do to tech limitations but there is no reason to doubt Fable 2 tech will not be an issue now.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Eddie_Munster08

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

I mean be honestly if this looks ave to you. Then what do you have a modded PS3 with quad SLI RSX in it?

Get a larger version of that image so we can point out its imperfections...its not that impressive of a shot.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

i'm gonna post what i posted in the last thread:

does anyone else here think that the difference is negligible?

kendrene

I do!!! Really let's stop this. Multiplats look identical on ps3/360 (burnout paradise) Beside good graphics does not mean good game. Unless you're a brainwashed fanboy

I fully agree with both of you.

how many times do I have to tell you guys.

IGNORE ANY TOPIC BY EDDIE MUNSTER PLEASE.

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Uptown

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

I mean be honestly if this looks ave to you. Then what do you have a modded PS3 with quad SLI RSX in it?

Get a larger version of that image so we can point out its imperfections...its not that impressive of a shot.

You reaching now buddy.

Let me add that there will be no loading when you go in house and look back out the whole world is still alive and moving and livivng.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Eddie_Munster08

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

Anybody hyping Fable2 for graphics is going to be disappointed. Actually there is a good chance the whole game is going to disappoint. Molyneux hasn't made a good game since Populous.

Hmm GameSpot scored Fable 8.6 and great. And many others agree. Why yes it did not do everything they wanted do to tech limitations but there is no reason to doubt Fable 2 tech will not be an issue now.

Me and all my friends ran out and bought Fable off the original hype. Yes I was a lemming last gen. Fable was a mediocre RPG at best and didn't deliver on 80% of what was promised, all hype no substance. Out of all the people I know that got it nobody put more than 20 hrs into it.

Yeah you're right, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Killzone 2, and Uncharted all have horrible graphics compared to Xbox 360 games, wait... What?!wallpaper42

I never said they look bad? In fact they look great. I'm just saying by no means is the PS3 the graphics king.

[QUOTE="wallpaper42"]Yeah you're right, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Killzone 2, and Uncharted all have horrible graphics compared to Xbox 360 games, wait... What?!Eddie_Munster08

I never said they look bad? In fact they look great. I'm just saying by no means is the PS3 the graphics king.

I'd say they look atleast equal to anything the Xbox 360 has to offer. Probably even a tiny bit better, but not noticable enough to call the PS3 king, so that means the 360 can't be the king either.

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Uptown

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

I mean be honestly if this looks ave to you. Then what do you have a modded PS3 with quad SLI RSX in it?

Get a larger version of that image so we can point out its imperfections...its not that impressive of a shot.

Here's the full page:

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/741361/fable-2/images/fable-2-20080220003908929.html?page=mediaFull

It's not impressive, it looks like The Guild 2 or Hard To Be A God

Don't now say "Well, it's unfinished", because you posted that screenshot as a representation of how it's groundbreaking.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

Joke thread? Fable 2 looks average graphically at best, even the art work pics posted don't look special...looks like Hard To Be A God really...

Eddie_Munster08

Have you even watched the HD developer video on Marketplace. The graphics are SICK. Are you kidding me:roll:

90000 leaves right?

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

Joke thread? Fable 2 looks average graphically at best, even the art work pics posted don't look special...looks like Hard To Be A God really...

Wasdie

Have you even watched the HD developer video on Marketplace. The graphics are SICK. Are you kidding me:roll:

90000 leaves right?

[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Well i find it hard to beleive you. Becuase Fable 2 looks better then just ave? So i'm not sure i can beleive you have seen what i have seen. Anyway. most agree Fable 2 will be a pretty darn good looking game.

Andrew_Xavier

I think fable 2 *could* be a decent game, if molyneux comes through with some of his promises, it still doesn't look spectacular, no one but shaolin would argue that it's a graphical powerhouse.

I mean be honestly if this looks ave to you. Then what do you have a modded PS3 with quad SLI RSX in it?

Get a larger version of that image so we can point out its imperfections...its not that impressive of a shot.

Here's the full page:

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/741361/fable-2/images/fable-2-20080220003908929.html?page=mediaFull

It's not impressive, it looks like The Guild 2 or Hard To Be A God

Don't now say "Well, it's unfinished", because you posted that screenshot as a representation of how it's groundbreaking.

It's going to be about the enviroment and the art****of the graphics. And if you can not cleary see it excels at this then your just IDNO whatever.

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

[QUOTE="wallpaper42"]Yeah you're right, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Killzone 2, and Uncharted all have horrible graphics compared to Xbox 360 games, wait... What?!wallpaper42

I never said they look bad? In fact they look great. I'm just saying by no means is the PS3 the graphics king.

I'd say they look atleast equal to anything the Xbox 360 has to offer. Probably even a tiny bit better, but not noticable enough to call the PS3 king, so that means the 360 can't be the king either.

I pretty much agree with this also. Again i never really said that 360 is King i just said lets look at things on the FLIP SIDE to the other thread. Becuase neither PS3 nor 360 really has a huge leap over the other. They both have ups and downs.

And all i was saying that Gears 2 will have a thing or two to say about this this fall.

That's your opinion... personally I feel like Ps3 has superior graphics...

Uncharted / Ratchet&Clank / GT5P / Heavenly sword are just an example why I think they are superior, keeping in mind that 3 of these games came out with the 1st wave of PS3 titles, meaning devs were still getting used to the PS3's architecture...

But everyone has the right to express his opinion so its fine with me that many believe that Xbox360 has better graphic capabilities...

PSN ID: anubis1980

Malta_1980

Seems like the right time to bring this up:

'Opinions are like a-holes.......everybody's got one, and they're often full of sh*t'

ive said this before a million times

THEY ARE BOTH PRETTY MUCH EQUAL

You forgot to add

'In your opinion'

I seem to have a slight mistake of my reasoning that you appear to have put down these opinions of yours as a cold hard truth.

I can't believe everyone here hasn't realized this is saolin.tekmojo

Hah! I was just about to say, Saolin323 is gone, now time for this guy :P

It's going to be about the enviroment and the art****of the graphics. And if you can not cleary see it excels at this then your just IDNO whatever.

Eddie_Munster08

The art**** is identical to Hard To Be A God, and everyone called HTBAG amateur,
as per the environment, bitmapped ground with a couple bits of grass sticking up and pre-rendered trees that look square? So, it's Oblivion with more bloom? Oblivion when it came out wasn't praised for graphics.

Seems like the right time to bring this up:

'Opinions are like a-holes.......everybody's got one, and they're often full of sh*t'

Neontope

I thought it was "Excuses are like a-holes........." not Opinions.

Anyway, My graphics are better than your graphics.

[QUOTE="Neontope"]

Seems like the right time to bring this up:

'Opinions are like a-holes.......everybody's got one, and they're often full of sh*t'

drufeous

I thought it was "Excuses are like a-holes........." not Opinions.

Anyway, My graphics are better than your graphics.

You see how this vicious circle can be created. :P

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. nvidia > ati. So by that logic PS3 graphics > 360 graphics. I can't make it any more simplistic.hongkingkong

Funny how everyone pretty much agrees the 360 GPU>>>RSX. And all gamesites pretty much say this also. And it's also funny how Nvidia adopted ATI's unified tech. :lol: To bad they did not do it in the RSX. So YUOR WRONG 360GPU>>>RSX

[QUOTE="Neontope"]

Seems like the right time to bring this up:

'Opinions are like a-holes.......everybody's got one, and they're often full of sh*t'

drufeous

I thought it was "Excuses are like a-holes........." not Opinions.

Anyway, My graphics are better than your graphics.