PS3 vs 360 multiplats

Most perform the same.

Yet the PS3 version may sometimes require 1-4 gigs of installation where as the 360 version doesnt, and requires maybe a couple megabytes to save your game.

A mandatory install to get roughly the same performance as the 360 counterpart says something.............

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance and decreases loading times

Most perform the same.

Yet the PS3 version may sometimes require 1-4 gigs of installation where as the 360 version doesnt, and requires maybe a couple megabytes to save your game.

A mandatory install to get roughly the same performance as the 360 counterpart says something.............

-General_Ram-

 If installs make performance a tiny bit better and take space of the blu-ray laser fine for me!

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the only reason the ps3 needs the mandatory installs is because the blu ray drive only reads at 2x. I personally hate that it has to install, but I guess it's no big deal.

That being said though, I never buy multiplatform games for my ps3 that I have any intention of playing online with.

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance en decreases loading times

killerfist

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

[QUOTE="killerfist"]

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance en decreases loading times

-General_Ram-

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

Yeah and when NXE comes around my 360 hard drive is gonna be drained just as fast

[QUOTE="killerfist"]

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance en decreases loading times

-General_Ram-

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

I'm not really sure you can hold blu ray at fault here. There's nothing wrong with the format, it was just a very poor design decision when Sony concieved of the ps3's architecture to have a drive that reads at such a slow speed. As much as I love my 360, I do believe that Blu Ray is a necessary step forward for videogames as they become larger and their budgets increase.

[QUOTE="killerfist"]

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance en decreases loading times

-General_Ram-

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

I have a feeling that they included a BluRay player way too fast. They should've waited for them to get cheaper (faster).

When I unwrap a game, I want to play it. I don't want to wait 3-5 minutes(average) for the game to install.

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance en decreases loading times

Animal-Mother

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

Yeah and when NXE comes around my 360 hard drive is gonna be drained just as fast

yes. but its an option.

PS3 forces you. And if you need the space and are forced to delete some installs, your forced to re-install if you want to return to that game. With 360, it runs no matter what you do.

Im trying to prove a point that PS3 gives you an unecessary hastle.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]

 

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

-General_Ram-

Yeah and when NXE comes around my 360 hard drive is gonna be drained just as fast

yes. but its an option.

PS3 forces you. And if you need the space and are forced to delete some installs, your forced to re-install if you want to return to that game. With 360, it runs no matter what you do.

Im trying to prove a point that PS3 gives you an unecessary hastle.

very true. I agree. Can't argue that. Good point

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance en decreases loading times

Animal-Mother

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

Yeah and when NXE comes around my 360 hard drive is gonna be drained just as fast

That doesn't make any sense, most of 360 owners say an advantage of having a 360 is that you just put the disc and start playing, without having to install anything (which i agree completely). But everyone is so wet with the release of the install feature that is going to be released.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]

 

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

JKusanagi

Yeah and when NXE comes around my 360 hard drive is gonna be drained just as fast

That doesn't make any sense, most of 360 owners say an advantage of having a 360 is that you just put the disc and start playing, without having to install anything (which i agree completely). But everyone is so wet with the release of the install feature that is going to be released.

See i welcome the installs. If it's gonna take stress of my system and make its life a bit longer bring it on. Everyone else is saying installs are stupid, but will see when NXE comes how much they'll welcome the install feature

Most perform the same.

Yet the PS3 version may sometimes require 1-4 gigs of installation where as the 360 version doesnt, and requires maybe a couple megabytes to save your game.

A mandatory install to get roughly the same performance as the 360 counterpart says something.............

-General_Ram-

All that matters is if i want to play the game...I can!

[QUOTE="JKusanagi"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Yeah and when NXE comes around my 360 hard drive is gonna be drained just as fast

Animal-Mother

That doesn't make any sense, most of 360 owners say an advantage of having a 360 is that you just put the disc and start playing, without having to install anything (which i agree completely). But everyone is so wet with the release of the install feature that is going to be released.

See i welcome the installs. If it's gonna take stress of my system and make its life a bit longer bring it on. Everyone else is saying installs are stupid, but will see when NXE comes how much they'll welcome the install feature

yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="killerfist"]

has been discussed before

the Ps3 uses the HDD because the BluRay drive isn't capable to read all the data that fast from the disc itself. It increases performance en decreases loading times

Animal-Mother

even so. The PS3 basically drains your hardrive at a considerable faster pace then 360. And that claim says something about the "value" of bluray in a console.

Yeah and when NXE comes around my 360 hard drive is gonna be drained just as fast

but you can always choose not to

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="JKusanagi"]

That doesn't make any sense, most of 360 owners say an advantage of having a 360 is that you just put the disc and start playing, without having to install anything (which i agree completely). But everyone is so wet with the release of the install feature that is going to be released.

-General_Ram-

See i welcome the installs. If it's gonna take stress of my system and make its life a bit longer bring it on. Everyone else is saying installs are stupid, but will see when NXE comes how much they'll welcome the install feature

yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

The installations are a huge pain imo.killerfist

[QUOTE="killerfist"]The installations are a huge pain imo.RuinedMachine

yeah, seriously

I

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

See i welcome the installs. If it's gonna take stress of my system and make its life a bit longer bring it on. Everyone else is saying installs are stupid, but will see when NXE comes how much they'll welcome the install feature

LosDaddie

yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

SONY isn't forcing the installs on us either, Developers are.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]

yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.

Nagidar

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

SONY isn't forcing the installs on us either, Developers are.

devs do it BECAUSE of sony.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

 

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

-General_Ram-

SONY isn't forcing the installs on us either, Developers are.

devs do it BECAUSE of sony.

Question when the optional installs roll around is it for every game, or games from Date X on?

Installs mean shorter load times and maybe an slight increase in performance.

Blu-ray isn't fas enough to stream, all ps3's have HDD, installs take about 10 min(at most), they don't bother me :P 

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

-General_Ram-

SONY isn't forcing the installs on us either, Developers are.

devs do it BECAUSE of sony.

Devs do it because they choose to, Uncharted had no load times and no install, that says something.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

 

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

-General_Ram-

SONY isn't forcing the installs on us either, Developers are.

devs do it BECAUSE of sony.

I think some devs can make light installs or none if they try , hence burnout paradise :P 

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

SONY isn't forcing the installs on us either, Developers are.

Animal-Mother

devs do it BECAUSE of sony.

Question when the optional installs roll around is it for every game, or games from Date X on?

every game, even from 05.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

 

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

-General_Ram-

SONY isn't forcing the installs on us either, Developers are.

devs do it BECAUSE of sony.

Because Sony forces installs on all developers, right? *looks at 1st party game with forced installs* Hmmmmmm. I guess R2 is it, the rest of the 1st parties were optional if memory serves.

every game, even from 05.

-General_Ram-

Really?

Well, Dead Space and Mirror's Edge have no installs and they are exactly the ssme on both consoles which is a good sign.Floppy_Jim

Yeah and burnout paradise and uncharted, it seems that many games that have the ps3 as the lead platform don't really need installs, anything is possible if devs try :)

I like how some people play it down when a supposed "future proof" console forces installs where a competing format doesnt. -General_Ram-

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"] I like how some people play it down when a supposed "future proof" console forces installs where a competing format doesnt. RuinedMachine

That was my question.

I like how some people play it down when a supposed "future proof" console forces installs where a competing format doesnt. -General_Ram-

360 multiplats >>>>> PS3 multiplats

- When the PS3 is the main platform they look identical but when the 360 is main platform all of us know what happens

- Instalations on PS3 versions is the only way to make them look closer

- (IMO) 360 controller is better

- Live is better than PSN

- When the PS3 is the main platform they look identical but when the 360 is main platform all of us know what happensPAL360

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

 

 

See i welcome the installs. If it's gonna take stress of my system and make its life a bit longer bring it on. Everyone else is saying installs are stupid, but will see when NXE comes how much they'll welcome the install feature

LosDaddie

yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

GTA IV and Mass Effect.

That's about it.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]- When the PS3 is the main platform they look identical but when the 360 is main platform all of us know what happensRuinedMachine

Well....an expensive PC can play the best versions of course.

The most expensive console cant do better than the chiepper one. Thats my point

I like how some people play it down when a supposed "future proof" console forces installs where a competing format doesnt. -General_Ram-

[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

See i welcome the installs. If it's gonna take stress of my system and make its life a bit longer bring it on. Everyone else is saying installs are stupid, but will see when NXE comes how much they'll welcome the install feature

LosDaddie

yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

Since you seem to like your OPTION. OPTIONAL or NOT is the same thing if you're going to use it anyways dumba##. There are only 2 choices: You like installs or you don't. All the games that have mandatory install on PS3 is because of the lenght of the loading without it or to help with performance, games that you would probably use that option.

So, it makes no point for you to mention that 100% OPTIONAL if you're going to use it anyways. I can go with the installation process and when i'm done, delete that data and keep my save file for further uses as every 360 owner probably will do with heavy games.

Also, some games offer 100% OPTIONAL installs on PS3 too, and you don't have to install 9 GB you will on 360, just a part, like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Soul Calibur IV. I personally don't like installs, i'll buy a 360 to play multiplatform games that have mandatory installs on PS3, but if it's not mandatory, i'll go buy it for PS3 if there's online gaming to play free

I can only think of a handful of games it will noticeably benefit.

GTA IV and Mass Effect.

That's about it.

EuroMafia

I don't think I will use it very often that's for sure.

I hate those installations on the Ps3. Its really my ony problem with the console

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]

yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.

JKusanagi

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

Since you seem to like your OPTION. OPTIONAL or NOT is the same thing if you're going to use it anyways dumba##. There are only 2 choices: You like installs or you don't. All the games that have mandatory install on PS3 is because of the lenght of the loading without it or to help with performance, games that you would probably use that option.

So, it makes no point for you to mention that 100% OPTIONAL if you're going to use it anyways. I can go with the installation process and when i'm done, delete that data and keep my save file for further uses as every 360 owner probably will do with heavy games.

Also, some games offer 100% OPTIONAL installs on PS3 too, and you don't have to install 9 GB you will on 360, just a part, like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Soul Calibur IV. I personally don't like installs, i'll buy a 360 to play multiplatform games that have mandatory installs on PS3, but if it's not mandatory, i'll go buy it for PS3 if there's online gaming to play free

AWW....did I hurt your feelings a bit?? :lol: :lol:

Some PS3 games require you to install to the HDD before the game will boot up and that is not OPTIONAL. No Xbox360 will require an install because the HDD is not mandatory.

FYI: I own both consoles! :D

[QUOTE="JKusanagi"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Yeah, cows seem to miss the point that Xbox360 installs will be 100% OPTIONAL. MS isn't forcing us to install one bit

LosDaddie

Since you seem to like your OPTION. OPTIONAL or NOT is the same thing if you're going to use it anyways dumba##. There are only 2 choices: You like installs or you don't. All the games that have mandatory install on PS3 is because of the lenght of the loading without it or to help with performance, games that you would probably use that option.

So, it makes no point for you to mention that 100% OPTIONAL if you're going to use it anyways. I can go with the installation process and when i'm done, delete that data and keep my save file for further uses as every 360 owner probably will do with heavy games.

Also, some games offer 100% OPTIONAL installs on PS3 too, and you don't have to install 9 GB you will on 360, just a part, like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Soul Calibur IV. I personally don't like installs, i'll buy a 360 to play multiplatform games that have mandatory installs on PS3, but if it's not mandatory, i'll go buy it for PS3 if there's online gaming to play free

AWW....did I hurt your feelings a bit?? :lol: :lol:

Some PS3 games require you to install to the HDD before the game will boot up and that is not OPTIONAL. No Xbox360 will require an install because the HDD is not mandatory.

FYI: I own both consoles! :D

Did you even read? I already know its optional, i wrote that like 10 times and still you didn't get it

Your post made no sense. Just random ramblings.

Who is to say I would use the OPTIONAL install? I will probably rarely ever use it.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="JKusanagi"]

Since you seem to like your OPTION. OPTIONAL or NOT is the same thing if you're going to use it anyways dumba##. There are only 2 choices: You like installs or you don't. All the games that have mandatory install on PS3 is because of the lenght of the loading without it or to help with performance, games that you would probably use that option.

So, it makes no point for you to mention that 100% OPTIONAL if you're going to use it anyways. I can go with the installation process and when i'm done, delete that data and keep my save file for further uses as every 360 owner probably will do with heavy games.

Also, some games offer 100% OPTIONAL installs on PS3 too, and you don't have to install 9 GB you will on 360, just a part, like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Soul Calibur IV. I personally don't like installs, i'll buy a 360 to play multiplatform games that have mandatory installs on PS3, but if it's not mandatory, i'll go buy it for PS3 if there's online gaming to play free

JKusanagi

AWW....did I hurt your feelings a bit?? :lol: :lol:

Some PS3 games require you to install to the HDD before the game will boot up and that is not OPTIONAL. No Xbox360 will require an install because the HDD is not mandatory.

FYI: I own both consoles! :D

Did you even read? I already know its optional, i wrote that like 10 times and still you didn't get it

Uh, i think you're the one who didn't read. Just because the option of ripping 360 games to your hard drive will exist very soon with the new update doesn't refute the fact that it's still an optional feature to implement for those interested in doing it. The PS3 has no such optional feature, which is what he was getting at.

I said that because of the guy who said "yes, me and me people will openly welcome the *option* to install our games.". It's safe to asume that guy is going to use it, right? Why get so wet about an *option* if you will rarelly use it? Its not like "OH YEAH, 360 WILL HAVE OPTIONAL INSTALL!!! I WILL ONLY USE IT IN 1 GAME THOUGH"

The thing is, most of 360 owners see the upcoming feature as a great deal when they say the PS3 sux because you have to install in many games. Optional or not, using it is what it is, an install, and not 450 mb or even 5 gb, its like 7 - 9 GB for the 360 games

oh no!! the installs!!! THE INSTALLLS!!!! what will we dooooo!!!

oh wait....i always install games.

umm....

ummm....

gada recover from that...

mutli disk!!!! MUTLI!!!! DISK !!!!! oh god why!!!

oh wait......

man im really dropping the ball today.....

but on a series note Ram, give it a break already.

Most perform the same.

Yet the PS3 version may sometimes require 1-4 gigs of installation where as the 360 version doesnt, and requires maybe a couple megabytes to save your game.

A mandatory install to get roughly the same performance as the 360 counterpart says something.............

-General_Ram-

instal for quicker load time. Plus i dont get the problem, its a instal, so what if it takes 3gigs, i got like 80 to spare, not to mention i can pay 100 bucks or 50 (off the truck) to get 300gig...

Its different formats and they require different things..it sometimes gets annoying, but i dont mind