PS3 Vs 360 Vs Wii Library

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]When your list of A+ exclusives for the year = Alan Wake and Crackdown 2, then yes 100% = a lot of 360 games flopping.

not when it's two games. :|

100% is a considerable degree or extent. But I guess if the argument is that 2 is not enough to constitute a lot, then KevinbutlerVP's original statement should be modified to "ALL 360 exclusives (that were hyped as A+) have flopped recently (this year).

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

not when it's two games. :|

100% is a considerable degree or extent. But I guess if the argument is that 2 is not enough to constitute a lot, then KevinbutlerVP's original statement should be modified to "ALL 360 exclusives (that were hyped as A+) have flopped recently (this year).

yes. why would you even support the incorrect of the two statements?

100% is a considerable degree or extent. But I guess if the argument is that 2 is not enough to constitute a lot, then KevinbutlerVP's original statement should be modified to "ALL 360 exclusives (that were hyped as A+) have flopped recently (this year).ianuilliam

Wait Cracdown 2 is a flop? First one got a 7, this one got a 7... Seems about average?locopatho

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

alan wake and crackdown 2 = a lot?

h575309

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]From Meriam Webster: a lot1: to a considerable degree or extent

100% is a considerable degree or extent. But I guess if the argument is that 2 is not enough to constitute a lot, then KevinbutlerVP's original statement should be modified to "ALL 360 exclusives (that were hyped as A+) have flopped recently (this year).

KevinButlerVP

yes. why would you even support the incorrect of the two statements?

because two is not a lot. :|

how is saying a lot incorrect if all 360 exclusives have floppedKevinButlerVP

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

not when it's two games. :|

CaseyWegner

100% is a considerable degree or extent. But I guess if the argument is that 2 is not enough to constitute a lot, then KevinbutlerVP's original statement should be modified to "ALL 360 exclusives (that were hyped as A+) have flopped recently (this year).

yes. why would you even support the incorrect of the two statements?

K lets take a vote. Should i Add Wii to this??

based on the difinition from Miriam Websterianuilliam

K lets take a vote. Should i Add Wii to this??

rangegear

Btw, the Oxford definition of "a lot" is:

a large number or amount; a great deal.

Two games don't fit that definiton, at all ;)

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] how is saying a lot incorrect if all 360 exclusives have floppedIronBass

Btw, the Oxford definition of "a lot" is: a large number or amount; a great deal. Two games don't fit that definiton, at all ;)IronBass

Exactly!

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]From Meriam Webster: a lot1: to a considerable degree or extent

100% is a considerable degree or extent. But I guess if the argument is that 2 is not enough to constitute a lot, then KevinbutlerVP's original statement should be modified to "ALL 360 exclusives (that were hyped as A+) have flopped recently (this year).

ianuilliam

yes. why would you even support the incorrect of the two statements?

the definition you pulled is an adverb though. :?

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] don't forget Ninety Nine Nights 2, and yeah in a short period of time a lot of 360 exclusives have floppedrangegear

[QUOTE="rangegear"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Half your list of 360 titles arent exclusive.

Silverbond

That doesn't make them exclusive.

But feel free to argue your point.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] how is saying a lot incorrect if all 360 exclusives have floppedKevinButlerVP

that's not how it works. two is not a lot no matter how you try to spin it.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] yeah, lots of 360 exclusives have flopped recentlyIronBass

And N3 2, its a lot when 3 out of like 5 exclusive games flop

[QUOTE="rangegear"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] The libraries are nearly identical so far this year, and the PS3 has hardly had an amazing year so far.h575309

What about 2011? Twisted Metal, Killzone 3, inFamous 2?

since 2/2 360 exclusives have flopped in 2010 (recently) that is a lot. if 2/10 exclusives flopped that is not a lot. It can have to do with the number of exlusives not flopped, to the number of exclusives floppedKevinButlerVP

A lot means " a large number or amount", two games are neither a large number nor a large amount of games.

And N3 2, its a lot when 3 out of like 5 exclusive games flopsvenus97

[QUOTE="svenus97"]And N3 2, its a lot when 3 out of like 5 exclusive games flopIronBass

Half my friends had no idea what demo i was playing when i was playing it.

The thread is PS3 vs 360..vashkey

Clearly, you weren't here when I made that post.

The title was changed from "Exclusives" to "Library".

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] yeah, lots of 360 exclusives have flopped recentlysvenus97

And N3 2, its a lot when 3 out of like 5 exclusive games flop

[QUOTE="vashkey"]The thread is PS3 vs 360..Silverbond

Clearly, you weren't here when I made that ost.

The title was changed fromm "Exclusives" to "Library".

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="rangegear"]Im glad you said so far! But God of war 3 is one of the best.

What about 2011? Twisted Metal, Killzone 3, inFamous 2?

For just excusives, I'd have to go with the Wii. For overall library, the PS3 just edges it of those listed. Overall, though, I think the DS has the best library.

Im putting Wii on here now.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Because two games are not a lot. You can force the defintion to fit that stament, but it would be too forced for it to be correct.CaseyWegner

that's not how it works. two is not a lot no matter how you try to spin it.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] since 2/2 360 exclusives have flopped in 2010 (recently) that is a lot. if 2/10 exclusives flopped that is not a lot. It can have to do with the number of exlusives not flopped, to the number of exclusives floppedKevinButlerVP

that's not how it works. two is not a lot no matter how you try to spin it.

okay. when a situation like this arises it's a good sign that you might just be wrong and need to find a different word or phrase. "a lot" is clearly not the right thing to use here.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] since 2/2 360 exclusives have flopped in 2010 (recently) that is a lot. if 2/10 exclusives flopped that is not a lot. It can have to do with the number of exlusives not flopped, to the number of exclusives floppedKevinButlerVP

that's not how it works. two is not a lot no matter how you try to spin it.

I honestly think it's pretty ridiculous people call games that score an 8.5/10 a flop. I don't care if it didn't meet some supposed expectations, it still scored well. And counting Ninety Nine Nights 2? Who honestly expected that game to do well? Even counting Crackdown 2 as a flop doesn't seem all that reasonable when most people thought at the highest it'd get like an 8. I didn't very high expectations. The word flop means something significantly under performs from it's expectations. a .5 difference is no significant.vashkey

a flop here means a game that didn't meet its hype. no need to bring in outside definitions.

I honestly think it's pretty ridiculous people call games that score an 8.5/10 a flop. I don't care if it didn't meet some supposed expectations, it still scored well. And counting Ninety Nine Nights 2? Who honestly expected that game to do well? Even counting Crackdown 2 as a flop doesn't seem all that reasonable when most people thought at the highest it'd get like an 8. I didn't very high expectations. The word flop means something significantly under performs from it's expectations. a .5 difference is no significant.vashkey

I can't describe how much I agree with you (especially when people kept calling Heavy Rain a flop, that drove me crazy at the time). The textbook definition of flop is: "a complete and utter failure". But don't be expecting logic on SW, it will only lead to trouble.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]I honestly think it's pretty ridiculous people call games that score an 8.5/10 a flop. I don't care if it didn't meet some supposed expectations, it still scored well. And counting Ninety Nine Nights 2? Who honestly expected that game to do well? Even counting Crackdown 2 as a flop doesn't seem all that reasonable when most people thought at the highest it'd get like an 8. I didn't very high expectations. The word flop means something significantly under performs from it's expectations. a .5 difference is no significant.calvinsora

I can't describe how much I agree with you (especially when people kept calling Heavy Rain a flop, that drove me crazy at the time). The textbook definition of flop is: "a complete and utter failure". But don't be expecting logic on SW, it will only lead to trouble.

I agree with you, but just to make it clearer, you ought to just say 100% of A+ 360 exclusives have flopped this year. No arguing that one, and it has the added bonus of actually sounding worse for the 360 than just saying 'a lot'.ianuilliam

Nah, it does not sound bad at all when you know that 100% are two games and that all the hype/flop stuff is an internet forum game that has no relevance outside said game. ;)

[QUOTE="vashkey"]I honestly think it's pretty ridiculous people call games that score an 8.5/10 a flop. I don't care if it didn't meet some supposed expectations, it still scored well. And counting Ninety Nine Nights 2? Who honestly expected that game to do well? Even counting Crackdown 2 as a flop doesn't seem all that reasonable when most people thought at the highest it'd get like an 8. I didn't very high expectations. The word flop means something significantly under performs from it's expectations. a .5 difference is no significant.calvinsora

I can't describe how much I agree with you (especially when people kept calling Heavy Rain a flop, that drove me crazy at the time). The textbook definition of flop is: "a complete and utter failure". But don't be expecting logic on SW, it will only lead to trouble.

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]I honestly think it's pretty ridiculous people call games that score an 8.5/10 a flop. I don't care if it didn't meet some supposed expectations, it still scored well. And counting Ninety Nine Nights 2? Who honestly expected that game to do well? Even counting Crackdown 2 as a flop doesn't seem all that reasonable when most people thought at the highest it'd get like an 8. I didn't very high expectations. The word flop means something significantly under performs from it's expectations. a .5 difference is no significant.charizard1605

I can't describe how much I agree with you (especially when people kept calling Heavy Rain a flop, that drove me crazy at the time). The textbook definition of flop is: "a complete and utter failure". But don't be expecting logic on SW, it will only lead to trouble.

an addendum to the flop rule here is that no AAA game is a flop so mgs4 wouldn't have flopped unless it got an 8.5 or lower.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

that's not how it works. two is not a lot no matter how you try to spin it.

CaseyWegner

okay. when a situation like this arises it's a good sign that you might just be wrong and need to find a different word or phrase. "a lot" is clearly not the right thing to use here.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]

I can't describe how much I agree with you (especially when people kept calling Heavy Rain a flop, that drove me crazy at the time). The textbook definition of flop is: "a complete and utter failure". But don't be expecting logic on SW, it will only lead to trouble.

an addendum to the flop rule here is that no AAA game is a flop so mgs4 wouldn't have flopped unless it got an 8.5 or lower.

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]I honestly think it's pretty ridiculous people call games that score an 8.5/10 a flop. I don't care if it didn't meet some supposed expectations, it still scored well. And counting Ninety Nine Nights 2? Who honestly expected that game to do well? Even counting Crackdown 2 as a flop doesn't seem all that reasonable when most people thought at the highest it'd get like an 8. I didn't very high expectations. The word flop means something significantly under performs from it's expectations. a .5 difference is no significant.rangegear

I can't describe how much I agree with you (especially when people kept calling Heavy Rain a flop, that drove me crazy at the time). The textbook definition of flop is: "a complete and utter failure". But don't be expecting logic on SW, it will only lead to trouble.

Well, I was more speaking about games in the 8.0 to 8.5 region that are called flops. Just doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Indeed, System Wars' definition of the word flop is ridiculous. Going by this definition, MGS4 would have been a flop if it hadn't scored a 10. :? Go figure.charizard1605

an addendum to the flop rule here is that no AAA game is a flop so mgs4 wouldn't have flopped unless it got an 8.5 or lower.

As I see it, the creation of an alternative meaning of a common derogatory word used in media serves only to act as a flamebait and is a cheap way to try and annoy fans of said "flops". Me am annoyed!

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]your right, to make myself more clear I will say %100 of 360 exclusives have floppedIronBass

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] that's the best I can explain it from my point of view, 2 exclusives is not a lot but when you have both of those exlusives flopping with no other exclusives that is a lot because %100 of them flopped and %100 is a great dealKevinButlerVP

okay. when a situation like this arises it's a good sign that you might just be wrong and need to find a different word or phrase. "a lot" is clearly not the right thing to use here.

it's too late. we already know that only means two games so whatever impact you were hoping to have is now lost.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

an addendum to the flop rule here is that no AAA game is a flop so mgs4 wouldn't have flopped unless it got an 8.5 or lower.

As I see it, the creation of an alternative meaning of a common derogatory word used in media serves only to act as a flamebait and is a cheap way to try and annoy fans of said "flops". Me am annoyed!