PS3 Vs Xbox 360 Elite: Breakdown of production costs

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#1 xxThyLordxx
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#2 xxThyLordxx
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it cost Sony $840 to  make a PS3 and they sell it for $600

it cost MS $323 to make an Elite X360 and they sell it for $480

it cost Nintendo $200 to make a Wii and they sell it for $200.

yet they call us cows. 

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Yeah PS3 is a sweet package if you really look at the end-result numbers - now it just needs the games man 8)
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it cost Sony $840 to  make a PS3 and they sell it for $600

it cost MS $323 to make an Elite X360 and they sell it for $480

it cost Nintendo $200 to make a Wii and they sell it for $200.

yet they call us cows. 

xxThyLordxx

This is my main reason why i admire and respect sony. However MS milks lemmings and they completely deny it and after all the 360 problems are way higher than the Wii + Ps3 problems combined together. And the milkage goes on with the Elite, XBL ...etc

But still lemmings deny that but in the END the people with most benefits are Cows they get something that costs 840$ for only 600$

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#5 frans636
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The ps3's 60GB HDD costs 54$,

the 360's 120HDD costs 43$ ??????

*Edit* That must be the 360 pro version not elite,

because it says retail price is 400$.

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#6 xxThyLordxx
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The ps3's 60GB HDD costs 54$,

the 360's 120HDD costs 43$ ???????

frans636

and MS charges lemmings $180 for it. 

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#7 Supafly1
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The ps3's 60GB HDD costs 54$,

the 360's 120HDD costs 43$ ???????

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Lol :D 

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#8 Ultimas_Blade
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No matter how you spin it, the PS3 still costs $600, an unsustainable pricepoint which many are people are not incline to even consider it let alone purchase it.  Sony would have keep its iron grip on the market if it was just $200 cheaper.  They should have bit the bullet, it would have saved them in the end.
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#9 mmirza23
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No matter how you spin it, the PS3 still costs $600, an unsustainable pricepoint which many are people are not incline to even consider it let alone purchase it.  Sony would have keep its iron grip on the market if it was just $200 cheaper.  They should have bit the bullet, it would have saved them in the end.Ultimas_Blade
you talk as if this generation is already over...
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#10 6matt6
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sony only made it $600 because they knew if they sold it for more they would flop badly.

saying nintendo and MS milk their fanboys because they are doing what any buisness does and that is 'try and make profit.' is plain dumb.

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]No matter how you spin it, the PS3 still costs $600, an unsustainable pricepoint which many are people are not incline to even consider it let alone purchase it.  Sony would have keep its iron grip on the market if it was just $200 cheaper.  They should have bit the bullet, it would have saved them in the end.mmirza23
you talk as if this generation is already over...

I can see what you're saying, but I mean the PS3 would be stomping the living **** out of the 360 and possibly the Wii in sales if they had done that one thing.
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#12 gromit007
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You can only sell at a loss for so long.

What in the world could that $150 for other materials be? Is that some 4D space rental fee or something?:)

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I do believe that site messed up. The Elite does not retail for $399, the Premium does.
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I do believe that site messed up. The Elite does not retail for $399, the Premium does.InsaneBasura

just a typo. 

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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]I do believe that site messed up. The Elite does not retail for $399, the Premium does.xxThyLordxx

just a typo. 

ORLY? I think the credibility takes a hit if they can't get one of the most funadamental parts of the article right (ie the flipping cost!!!). Besides MS, Nintendo and Sony are businesses. Wait for it ... they are supposed to make a profit!!! The crazy Ken business model doesn't work and thats why he got fired.

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[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]I do believe that site messed up. The Elite does not retail for $399, the Premium does.blue_hazy_basic

just a typo. 

ORLY? I think the credibility takes a hit if they can't get one of the most funadamental parts of the article right (ie the flipping cost!!!). Besides MS, Nintendo and Sony are businesses. Wait for it ... they are supposed to make a profit!!! The crazy Ken business model doesn't work and thats why he got fired.

he got promoted to a different area of the company, so yeah watch what you say.

and yeah i dont think those numbers are accurate, i think they mean premium and ps3 doesnt cost that much to make anymore, the diodes re getting cheaper and manufacturing and removal of ps2 chips and soon they will switch to smaller ps3 chips. that looks like data from last year.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]I do believe that site messed up. The Elite does not retail for $399, the Premium does.Jack-Napier

just a typo. 

ORLY? I think the credibility takes a hit if they can't get one of the most funadamental parts of the article right (ie the flipping cost!!!). Besides MS, Nintendo and Sony are businesses. Wait for it ... they are supposed to make a profit!!! The crazy Ken business model doesn't work and thats why he got fired.

he got promoted to a different area of the company, so yeah watch what you say.

and yeah i dont think those numbers are accurate, i think they mean premium and ps3 doesnt cost that much to make anymore, the diodes re getting cheaper and manufacturing and removal of ps2 chips and soon they will switch to smaller ps3 chips. that looks like data from last year.

Ummm no he didn't, he offically "retired" so maybe you should check your facts eh?

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To be honest I would like to know a lot more about how they came up with those figures.
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#20 GIJesse77
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good thing my xbox 360 pro package only cost me 200.
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#21 TekkenMaster606
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Didn't you hear? The hardware means nothing apparently. Being a fan of a well constructed machine that packs loads of technical features makes you some kind of tech geek, not a gamer. Well, according to one particular group of fanboys...
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This source is so wrong... According to this atricle the price to make a ps3 HAS INCREASED.

$60 chasis? WTF (wasn't it $20 in the last article)

$54 for a 60 gig HDD and $43 for a 120 gig HDD??? why does the 60 gig cost way more, and why is it more expensive then the cost breakdown of when the ps3 launched.

$150 for "OTHER COMPONENTS".... WHAT OTHER COMPONENTS? they already listed everything. I cannot name a single thing they forgot... its not like adding the ps2 chip is still an expense.

And apparently ps3's are assembled by rich white guys whereas the 360 is made by starving people in a 3rd world country cause the ps3 costs 7 times as much to put together for some reason.

I SERIOUSLY doubt the credibility of this article, especially since there was already a cost breakdown of the ps3 and it differs GREATLY from this one.

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#23 Private_Vegas
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Oh no... people are paying more for something than it costs to produce....... that never happens anywhere else in the real world.

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#24 ragrdoll21
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This source is so wrong... According to this atricle the price to make a ps3 HAS INCREASED.

$60 chasis? WTF (wasn't it $20 in the last article)

$54 for a 60 gig HDD and $43 for a 120 gig HDD??? why does the 60 gig cost way more, and why is it more expensive then the cost breakdown of when the ps3 launched.

$150 for "OTHER COMPONENTS".... WHAT OTHER COMPONENTS? they already listed everything. I cannot name a single thing they forgot... its not like adding the ps2 chip is still an expense.

And apparently ps3's are assembled by rich white guys whereas the 360 is made by starving people in a 3rd world country cause the ps3 costs 7 times as much to put together for some reason.

I SERIOUSLY doubt the credibility of this article, especially since there was already a cost breakdown of the ps3 and it differs GREATLY from this one.

deadlypencil
The other PS3 cost break down was the same (total) before.The 360 numbers have changed and I don't think M$ is making money off of the 360 yet.
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#25 MikeE21286
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The thing about really expensive tech is that it comes down in price lots faster than medium range to low range tech.  That's why expect a PS3 price drop before the 360 price drop IMO.

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#26 ragrdoll21
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Oh no... people are paying more for something than it costs to produce....... that never happens anywhere else in the real world.

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I really don't care but if it were Sony,the haters would've blown this thread up to 300 post right now and that's a fact.:(
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#27 HuusAsking
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To be honest I would like to know a lot more about how they came up with those figures.cakeorrdeath
According to one of the articles I read, most of the the figures are based on a survey of wholesalers and the prices for their components (based on business-standard bulk purchases). Now, these prices may be subject to change--but likely only for the lower since Sony can streamline its manufacturing process and Microsoft (as owner in toto of the 360 IP) can shop around for cheaper providers, foundries, etc.
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#28 HuusAsking
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The thing about really expensive tech is that it comes down in price lots faster than medium range to low range tech.  That's why expect a PS3 price drop before the 360 price drop IMO.

MikeE21286
That's not really true, especially for really new technology like BluRay. It took about five years for DVD to really take off, and it had no real competition. The big factors are mainstream acceptance and economies of scale. BluRay has yet to reach either milestone. Meanwhile, many of the 360's components are already at the commodity level (sorta like genericized drugs), enabling Microsoft to shop around for cheaper prices.
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#29 mismajor99
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All the more reason fanboys should HOPE that these companies are still around next generation, and at each others throats. If it wasn't for competition people would be paying above the cost of each console and the companies wouldn't be worrying about penetrating living rooms around the world.

If MS's current and past behavior are any indication, if they are the only console company around(As Nintendo isn't really competing on the same field), they will corner the market just as they have in the PC world, which is plain ugly, and why MS makes so much money to begin with. There's nothing worse than monopolistic behavior, I don't care what your favorite console is, it's bad bad bad for the consumer.

Here's to hoping there's steep competition, otherwise, you all better invest in vaseline.........

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#30 Fusible
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360 has been out for about 18 months. It get to a point where eventually a product out for awhile starts to see a profit. This is that point for it to be doing so. PS3 has been out for 6 months, so it isn't going to be out of the red for awhile. This is how the market works, geez the fanboys are the biggest spinners of all time. Twist the truth wont ya.

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#31 Amnesiacx
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This source is so wrong... According to this atricle the price to make a ps3 HAS INCREASED.

$60 chasis? WTF (wasn't it $20 in the last article)

$54 for a 60 gig HDD and $43 for a 120 gig HDD??? why does the 60 gig cost way more, and why is it more expensive then the cost breakdown of when the ps3 launched.

$150 for "OTHER COMPONENTS".... WHAT OTHER COMPONENTS? they already listed everything. I cannot name a single thing they forgot... its not like adding the ps2 chip is still an expense.

And apparently ps3's are assembled by rich white guys whereas the 360 is made by starving people in a 3rd world country cause the ps3 costs 7 times as much to put together for some reason.

I SERIOUSLY doubt the credibility of this article, especially since there was already a cost breakdown of the ps3 and it differs GREATLY from this one.

deadlypencil

Uhhh..no

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#32 Eddie-Vedder
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And they say Sony milks us cows... amazing.