Ps3 vs Xbox 360 from a technical perspective (only people with common sense please!!)?

My main question would be, how far off are each consoles from a technical perspective?

My analysis:
ps3 has 7 cores, however, they all operate much slower than each of the 3 cores of the X360.

My experience from this: Computers that have 2 fast cores can outperform 4 to 6 core processors that clock at lower speeds.

Ps3 has half the video memory of an X360, but is well able to run games that seem very high end, such as the uncharted iterations, however, MS confessed that they deliberately did not supply the tools required to their first party developers to achieve the best of the X360

My experience: I understand what the X360 and ps3 can do when the specifications are compared to a pc, however, a pc with the SAME gpu and cpu would actually perform worse when optimized similarly to the X360 and ps3. Doing further research, i discovered that the developers take much longer to design a first party exclusive for the ps3 than a pc due to special rendering of the engines. Without the special rendering techniques executed, graphics, physics, particle effects, post processing and etc, will look significantly worse than rendered engine. I learned that the X360 is also capable of this. The halo iterations (bungie), unreal engine 3 also used special rendering techniques to pick up the settings but from research and learnt even games like gears of war, only require about 50% of the max power of the X360. I imagined if the X360 were to receive the same tools that sony generously supplied to its developers, the games will look and run as good as the X360.

FOR YOU FANBOYS: Through careful research, bluray does not have ONE SINGLE EFFECT on the quality of game. Did you notice crysis on the pc is distributed by a DVD and not a bluray? I KNOW A GAMING PC ANNIHILATES A X360 AND PS3, I HAVE A GAMING PC

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Additional DetailsI am currently a Math and Computer engineering major as a freshman. I am still taking many introductory ****s, so please forgive me if any of the info i stated is incorrect, however, this is from careful research and experience

31 minutes ago

:roll: oh dear lord this again, ahhhh ripps my hair out :cry:

PS3 has 1 core, and 8 spes. 1 disabled, and 1 for the OS, leaving 6 for games. They arent full cores, and are single threaded

360 has 3, full cores, each are dual threaded.

The reason PS3 multiplats suffer and why 3rd party games suffer is because the game code has to be broken up in chunks, and instructions given to each SPE. Needless to say, this isnt easy, and has different results on different games. Usually, devs just tone down effects, shadows, assets in game, etc to get a steady framerate.

360 is more PC based, and dev friendly They are pretty much equal in the end. Sonys first party devs are the difference. MS doesnt have devs that push the hardware other than Epic, which is 3rd party.

Here is the best analysis you are going to get right here. Even though its old, the tech inside the consoles havent changed, so its still relevant. Keep in mind that this is written by PC nerds, so they know about the tech, just not about developing on the consoles first hand.

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/

And this by John Carmack, another tech geek who is well known in the world of game tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3Lv3Pd3Uk

Bluray has no advantage? Crysis has repetative locations, animations, enemies etc. Bluray wouldv'e helped right there.

Yes, this is very good, thank you. I knew that from the beginning that both systems are nearly twins, just different casings and developers lol

yes we get it x360 has more power it just happens that some of the ps3 exclusives look a lot better

You got to be joking.........bluray does not do **** when it comes to quailty. Games can be compressed and uncompressed when installed, and viola, a overlysized and polished game lay upon your eyes.

Bluray has no advantage? Crysis has repetative locations, animations, enemies etc. Bluray wouldv'e helped right there.

Pray_to_me

PS3 has 1 core, and 8 spes. 1 disabled, and 1 for the OS, leaving 6 for games. They arent full cores, and are single threaded

360 has 3, full cores, each are dual threaded.

The reason PS3 multiplats suffer and why 3rd party games suffer is because the game code has to be broken up in chunks, and instructions given to each SPE. Needless to say, this isnt easy, and has different results on different games. Usually, devs just tone down effects, shadows, assets in game, etc to get a steady framerate.

360 is more PC based, and dev friendly They are pretty much equal in the end. Sonys first party devs are the difference. MS doesnt have devs that push the hardware other than Epic, which is 3rd party.

Here is the best analysis you are going to get right here. Even though its old, the tech inside the consoles havent changed, so its still relevant. Keep in mind that this is written by PC nerds, so they know about the tech, just not about developing on the consoles first hand.

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/

And this by John Carmack, another tech geek who is well known in the world of game tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3Lv3Pd3Uk

navyguy21

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Bluray has no advantage? Crysis has repetative locations, animations, enemies etc. Bluray wouldv'e helped right there.

navyguy21

All those "big" games you listed are just a lot of compy-paste. It's unique assets that take up space.

All ive learnt from this thread is: how to steal in skyrim, dam that's funky i wonder if i can use 3 bowls on that dude.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Bluray has no advantage? Crysis has repetative locations, animations, enemies etc. Bluray wouldv'e helped right there.

Pray_to_me

All those "big" games you listed are just a lot of compy-paste. It's unique assets that take up space.

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] It is a minor advantage, which is negated by multi disc games, and mandatory installs on PS3. Some of the biggest games this gen are on a single disc. Namely Just Cause 2, Skyrim, Fallout, GTA, etc. Crysis is the way it is because of consoles in General. Crysis 1 on PC is 1 disc so your argument is full of holes.navyguy21

All those "big" games you listed are just a lot of compy-paste. It's unique assets that take up space.

If disk space is irelevant then why don't we go back to CDs? Or floppy disks? The diskspace is irrelevant thing has been a MS fanboy talkingpoint since 2005. Somehow Ms convince thier loony fanbace that a 360 is worth the same as a PS3 even though it's straddled with an ancient 90's tech DVD drive.

The only real advantage blu ray would have over DVD is memory, as for CDs and before, they have been terminated of use due to the way they process the information

PS3 has 1 core, and 8 spes. 1 disabled, and 1 for the OS, leaving 6 for games. They arent full cores, and are single threaded

360 has 3, full cores, each are dual threaded.

The reason PS3 multiplats suffer and why 3rd party games suffer is because the game code has to be broken up in chunks, and instructions given to each SPE. Needless to say, this isnt easy, and has different results on different games. Usually, devs just tone down effects, shadows, assets in game, etc to get a steady framerate.

360 is more PC based, and dev friendly They are pretty much equal in the end. Sonys first party devs are the difference. MS doesnt have devs that push the hardware other than Epic, which is 3rd party.

Here is the best analysis you are going to get right here. Even though its old, the tech inside the consoles havent changed, so its still relevant. Keep in mind that this is written by PC nerds, so they know about the tech, just not about developing on the consoles first hand.

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/

And this by John Carmack, another tech geek who is well known in the world of game tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3Lv3Pd3Uk

navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

All those "big" games you listed are just a lot of compy-paste. It's unique assets that take up space.

Pray_to_me

If disk space is irelevant then why don't we go back to CDs? Or floppy disks? The diskspace is irrelevant thing has been a MS fanboy talkingpoint since 2005. Somehow Ms convince thier loony fanbace that a 360 is worth the same as a PS3 even though it's straddled with an ancient 90's tech DVD drive.

To take advantage of more storage space, the PS3 would need

1) More RAM

2) Faster Drive

3) Better processor

4) Better GPU

5) First party devs that arent limited by time, and can take the time to create unique assets for every situation.

Fact is, EVERY game reuses assets and textures.

Bluray has no advantage? Crysis has repetative locations, animations, enemies etc. Bluray wouldv'e helped right there.

Pray_to_me

xbox 360 ! FTW !

Ps3's blue ray drive suxs, slower then a standard dvd. and all that space that a blue ray drive holds still don't seperate it from a dvd.

online dling is annoyingly slow.

*my one tech answer* no cross game chat because your system can't even handle that.

games have no mass appeal, meaning your top game was GT5.

no killer games

3rd party looks better on 360. 3rd party >>> 1st party every gen.

ps3 took 2-3 years to get going and was known more as a cheaper blue ray player option then a video game console.

mr. copy cat sony known as the more expensive grown up version of nintendo. I don't view nintendo as anything more then the broke gamer option. the only real war is ps3 xbox 360. Wii is going up against ps2 xbox gamecube 1.

your console is am eye swore, at least when ps4 comes out they can sell ps3 to the george foreman grill company lol.

your marketing a game or system is a mess.

bottom feeders. lol

*FACT TIME* PS3 = Fail ! the almighty ps3 failed to get even half of its fan base from the ps2.

really, who cares what the ps3 has running inside anyway its the games that matter right ? judging by the sales of your games it don't matter much. more people bought the ps3 to watch movies then play games. your system is not known as a game system its known as a blue ray player first, games second.

xbox 360 ! FTW !

Ps3's blue ray drive suxs, slower then a standard dvd. and all that space that a blue ray drive holds still don't seperate it from a dvd.

online dling is annoyingly slow.

*my one tech answer* no cross game chat because your system can't even handle that.

games have no mass appeal, meaning your top game was GT5.

no killer games

3rd party looks better on 360. 3rd party >>> 1st party every gen.

ps3 took 2-3 years to get going and was known more as a cheaper blue ray player option then a video game console.

mr. copy cat sony known as the more expensive grown up version of nintendo. I don't view nintendo as anything more then the broke gamer option. the only real war is ps3 xbox 360. Wii is going up against ps2 xbox gamecube 1.

your console is am eye swore, at least when ps4 comes out they can sell ps3 to the george foreman grill company lol.

your marketing a game or system is a mess.

bottom feeders. lol

*FACT TIME* PS3 = Fail ! the almighty ps3 failed to get even half of its fan base from the ps2.

really, who cares what the ps3 has running inside anyway its the games that matter right ? judging by the sales of your games it don't matter much. more people bought the ps3 to watch movies then play games. your system is not known as a game system its known as a blue ray player first, games second.

JETS-JETS-JETS

Somebody forgot to eat their cheerios before going to school today.

Somebody forgot to eat their cheerios before going to school today.

mysticstryk

mysticstryk

Somebody forgot to eat their cheerios before going to school today.

haven't been in school in a long time but good story any way and gald to see all that posting you done has improved them posting skills

PS3 has 1 core, and 8 spes. 1 disabled, and 1 for the OS, leaving 6 for games. They arent full cores, and are single threaded

360 has 3, full cores, each are dual threaded.

The reason PS3 multiplats suffer and why 3rd party games suffer is because the game code has to be broken up in chunks, and instructions given to each SPE. Needless to say, this isnt easy, and has different results on different games. Usually, devs just tone down effects, shadows, assets in game, etc to get a steady framerate.

360 is more PC based, and dev friendly They are pretty much equal in the end. Sonys first party devs are the difference. MS doesnt have devs that push the hardware other than Epic, which is 3rd party.

Here is the best analysis you are going to get right here. Even though its old, the tech inside the consoles havent changed, so its still relevant. Keep in mind that this is written by PC nerds, so they know about the tech, just not about developing on the consoles first hand.

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/

And this by John Carmack, another tech geek who is well known in the world of game tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3Lv3Pd3Uk

navyguy21

BTW here are the advantages of the ps3 blu-ray player. 1) the cds have more memory. 2)they are apparently harder to scratch then dvds? (although i can't really confirm this as i take pretty good care of mine) and last but most importantly, 3) it will play my planet earth blu rays ;)