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#1 Philosoma
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Virtual prizes are a more tangible version of XBL's achievement points. 3D avatars realized in PSHome make Nintendo's Miis look shallow. - GDC07

WHY?

Because of PSHome's Trophy System that awards players achievement trophies ranging from figurines, artwork, clothing, and costumes - PS3 will become the best home of all multiplats. Also, specific games and blu-ray movies only need to be used on your PS3 to unlock a certain trophy.

ADVANTAGE:

Already, players spend hours unlocking Xbox Achievement Points for rank and pride within the online community. But points are just that; they represent a number, not experiences. People competing over "who has the larger number" should be a thing of the past.

Imagine completing a PSHome Achievement to unlock a dragon statue from Lair or a GTAIV sweatshirt for your PSHome avatar - the possibilities transcend mere points.

Who needs a Gamer Tag when you have a personalized PSHome Hall of Fame? Uploading videos/pictures from the harddrive and being able to put them in TVs/showcases is a huge step in showing all of the people who visit your Hall of Fame what kind of gamer you are.

FREE:

PSHome is free to download and use. For XBL you have to pay. Both PSHome and XBL have advertisements and online gaming - yet PSHome is free.

If you want to buy designer brand clothes, furniture, or a bigger apartment the options are available for you to make premium purchases but the service, avatar creation, apartment and hall of fame space is free.

You could designate your apartment to be your SOCOM clan hall, full of pics from your harddrive and videos on your TVs of your clan's deathmatches. Or... you could decorate your apartment to be a Final Fantasy shrine, and fill it full of Final Fantasy pictures and videos while playing uploaded Final Fantasy music - then give private invitation to your friends or other Final Fantasy fans.

This is a great approach to community, from hardcore to casuals, and it's only in beta so we can expect the evolution of PSHome to get even better.

DISADVANTAGE:

Unlike XBL, in PSHome you have to go through the lobby system in order to join games or make private games. As a subscriber to XBL, which I think is simple to use and fast, PSHome might be a bit slow in it's game matching. This is an area that Sony needs to work on so that when games like Warhawk come out, people can just login to PSN and play.

Unlike Miis, in PSHome our avatars don't seem to be used in any games - yet. Sony should recognize that people like to use their avatars in games, just like the Miis, and perhaps in future development, we can see our PSHome avatars used in products like SingStar or whatever.

CONCLUSION:

PS3 owners had nothing like Miis or XBL until PSHome was announced.

PS3 really needed PSHome, not only for an online gaming interface, but something to compete against the 360's point system and the Wii's Miis. Sony really played its secret card well and PSHome has heads turning - let's hope it's an ace.

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Phil Harrison interview -

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2185
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How do you explain a game such as Virtua Tennis 3 from Sega that has no online play for the PS3 but has online play on the 360. Also Tony Hawk's Project 8 - No online for PS3 but "Xbox Live support really make the Xbox 360 version stand out" says GS.

PSN is free to the users but not the developers so it will always have less games online.

PSHome has less features than XBL but is presented in a virtual 3d world. I prefer to look at someone through my xbox live cam while playing a game such as BB2 and talk to them. I was playing co-op GEoW today with my Brother on XBL, the PS3 is years away from providing an experience like this.

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Just one problem. You pay for xbox live online play for a simple reason. Sony doesn't set up servers that allow players to connect with eachother (unless we're talking about first-party titles, naturally). So in every other game, the developer, or publisher, has to set up servers that will allow players to connect. Hence the lobby system. Because you can't put it in as a standard function unless every developer/publisher agrees to use the same setup. And that's a hassle to get done (ever see EA & Ubi agree on something? I sure don't) Basically what this means is that you'll see more games with online enabled on the Xbox 360 than on the PS3, and you will definitly see this in multiplats. This is how Xbox360 one ups the PS3.... and honestly, the "Home" thing isn't anything more than a way to make people forget about the lack of titles that make the invested 600,- worth it.
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I love The Sims.
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How do you explain a game such as Virtua Tennis 3 from Sega that has no online play for the PS3 but has online play on the 360. Also Tony Hawk's Project 8 - No online for PS3 but "Xbox Live support really make the Xbox 360 version stand out" says GS.

PSN is free to the users but not the developers so it will always have less games online.

PSHome has less features than XBL but is presented in a virtual 3d world. I prefer to look at someone through my xbox live cam while playing a game such as BB2 and talk to them. I was playing co-op GEoW today with my Brother on XBL, the PS3 is years away from providing an experience like this.

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1. Sega is cheap and lazy. 2. It's Virtua Tennis 3. Don't lie about PSHome having less features than the XBL. It cleary has what XBL has and more.
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I'm gonna hang in Home all day and talk to cool people like the TC
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[QUOTE="Philosoma"]Also, specific games and blu-ray movies only need to be used on your PS3 to unlock a certain trophy.

Hang on, movies can be used to unlock things as well?
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yes i think i so..look what i find..lol..i know it to early to compare but ps3 home looks more sweeter..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgVndZg7-aM
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ADVANTAGE:

Already, players spend hours unlocking Xbox Achievement Points for rank and pride within the online community. But points are just that; they represent a number, not experiences. People competing over "who has the larger number" should be a thing of the past.

Imagine completing a PSHome Achievement to unlock a dragon statue from Lair or a GTAIV sweatshirt for your PSHome avatar - the possibilities transcend mere points.

Who needs a Gamer Tag when you have a personalized PSHome Hall of Fame? Uploading videos/pictures from the harddrive and being able to put them in TVs/showcases is a huge step in showing all of the people who visit your Hall of Fame what kind of gamer you are.

FREE:

PSHome is free to download and use. For XBL you have to pay. Both PSHome and XBL have advertisements and online gaming - yet PSHome is free.

If you want to buy designer brand clothes, furniture, or a bigger apartment the options are available for you to make premium purchases but the service, avatar creation, apartment and hall of fame space is free.

You could designate your apartment to be your SOCOM clan hall, full of pics from your harddrive and videos on your TVs of your clan's deathmatches. Or... you could decorate your apartment to be a Final Fantasy shrine, and fill it full of Final Fantasy pictures and videos while playing uploaded Final Fantasy music - then give private invitation to your friends or other Final Fantasy fans.

This is a great approach to community, from hardcore to casuals, and it's only in beta so we can expect the evolution of PSHome to get even better.
Philosoma

1.  IMO Achivements were never about bragging rights or trophys, but about extending the life of a game.  It's a way for developers to say, "Hey, Mr. Hardcore, lets see you do this."  It's about challenging yourself as a gamer, not showing off.  Also, MS has talked about adding real value to achivements; you could, for example, get prizes, free stuff on the marketplace, games, etc. 

2.  Gamertags, game demos, game trailers and videos, achivements, voice chat, video chat, the marketplace, are all free to use and explore.  And Home offers nothing XBL doesn't, as far as i've seen.

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[QUOTE="lazerluke"]

How do you explain a game such as Virtua Tennis 3 from Sega that has no online play for the PS3 but has online play on the 360. Also Tony Hawk's Project 8 - No online for PS3 but "Xbox Live support really make the Xbox 360 version stand out" says GS.

PSN is free to the users but not the developers so it will always have less games online.

PSHome has less features than XBL but is presented in a virtual 3d world. I prefer to look at someone through my xbox live cam while playing a game such as BB2 and talk to them. I was playing co-op GEoW today with my Brother on XBL, the PS3 is years away from providing an experience like this.

shungokustasu

1. Sega is cheap and lazy. 2. It's Virtua Tennis 3. Don't lie about PSHome having less features than the XBL. It cleary has what XBL has and more.

No, Sony is CHEAP & LAZY. It doesn't have everything XBox Live has. It's getting better, but it still far, far from Xbox Live, even with Home. You guys can't even play online against gamers in U.K. & Japan regions. Where as, almost ever XBox 360 game will be online, many of Sony's game won't even have any online support because developers don't want to foot the bill with extra expenses. M$ provides developers with a cheap online solution, whereas Sony doesn't. That's the main difference.

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Home sounds time consuming. I want a quick simple interface that displays the information I want but doesn't take time and focus away from the actual games.
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Home sounds time consuming. I want a quick simple interface that displays the information I want but doesn't take time and focus away from the actual games. Sir_Graham

The Ps3 has more than games on the plate. Ps3 owners can play pool and bowl in Home and do little dances in front of each other. Can you do little dances in front of other people on XBL, no? Didn't think so!

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[QUOTE="Sir_Graham"]Home sounds time consuming. I want a quick simple interface that displays the information I want but doesn't take time and focus away from the actual games. PS3_HOME_ALONE

The Ps3 has more than games on the plate. Ps3 owners can play pool and bowl in Home and do little dances in front of each other. Can you do little dances in front of other people on XBL, no? Didn't think so!

:lol:

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Good post.
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[QUOTE="Philosoma"]

Virtual prizes are a more tangible version of XBL's achievement points. 3D avatars realized in PSHome make Nintendo's Miis look shallow. - GDC07

WHY?

Because of PSHome's Trophy System that awards players achievement trophies ranging from figurines, artwork, clothing, and costumes - PS3 will become the best home of all multiplats. Also, specific games and blu-ray movies only need to be used on your PS3 to unlock a certain trophy.

ADVANTAGE:

Already, players spend hours unlocking Xbox Achievement Points for rank and pride within the online community. But points are just that; they represent a number, not experiences. People competing over "who has the larger number" should be a thing of the past.

Imagine completing a PSHome Achievement to unlock a dragon statue from Lair or a GTAIV sweatshirt for your PSHome avatar - the possibilities transcend mere points.

Who needs a Gamer Tag when you have a personalized PSHome Hall of Fame? Uploading videos/pictures from the harddrive and being able to put them in TVs/showcases is a huge step in showing all of the people who visit your Hall of Fame what kind of gamer you are.

FREE:

PSHome is free to download and use. For XBL you have to pay. Both PSHome and XBL have advertisements and online gaming - yet PSHome is free.

If you want to buy designer brand clothes, furniture, or a bigger apartment the options are available for you to make premium purchases but the service, avatar creation, apartment and hall of fame space is free.

You could designate your apartment to be your SOCOM clan hall, full of pics from your harddrive and videos on your TVs of your clan's deathmatches. Or... you could decorate your apartment to be a Final Fantasy shrine, and fill it full of Final Fantasy pictures and videos while playing uploaded Final Fantasy music - then give private invitation to your friends or other Final Fantasy fans.

This is a great approach to community, from hardcore to casuals, and it's only in beta so we can expect the evolution of PSHome to get even better.

DISADVANTAGE:

Unlike XBL, in PSHome you have to go through the lobby system in order to join games or make private games. As a subscriber to XBL, which I think is simple to use and fast, PSHome might be a bit slow in it's game matching. This is an area that Sony needs to work on so that when games like Warhawk come out, people can just login to PSN and play.

Unlike Miis, in PSHome our avatars don't seem to be used in any games - yet. Sony should recognize that people like to use their avatars in games, just like the Miis, and perhaps in future development, we can see our PSHome avatars used in products like SingStar or whatever.

CONCLUSION:

PS3 owners had nothing like Miis or XBL until PSHome was announced.

PS3 really needed PSHome, not only for an online gaming interface, but something to compete against the 360's point system and the Wii's Miis. Sony really played its secret card well and PSHome has heads turning - let's hope it's an ace.

-Philosoma

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MS will be MS and top this. Seriously though. MS will kill competition if they add something similar to this on live.
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Well said, and wow at some of the responses.

Anything to bash a free, excellent service hey?

Anyway, it's nice to know Sony are working hard to get the best online on their system for free. I know there are microtransactions available but the basic service is free and should be a good way for 3rd parties to get revenue from advertising their games in their lobbies and in turn allow us to decide what game we should get next.

When Home launches, Sony will officially have the best online of all of this gen's systems...and it's free.
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Well said, and wow at some of the responses.

Anything to bash a free, excellent service hey?

Anyway, it's nice to know Sony are working hard to get the best online on their system for free. I know there are microtransactions available but the basic service is free and should be a good way for 3rd parties to get revenue from advertising their games in their lobbies and in turn allow us to decide what game we should get next.

When Home launches, Sony will officially have the best online of all of this gen's systems...and it's free.
the-very-best

You forgot to talk about the little dances people can do in front of each other with Home

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MS will be MS and top this. Seriously though. MS will kill competition if they add something similar to this on live.
texasfight54


Sony have topped the competition and they've done so making it free for consumers.

I am looking forward to seeing how MS/Nintendo respond, because they need to.
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Well said, and wow at some of the responses.

Anything to bash a free, excellent service hey?

Anyway, it's nice to know Sony are working hard to get the best online on their system for free. I know there are microtransactions available but the basic service is free and should be a good way for 3rd parties to get revenue from advertising their games in their lobbies and in turn allow us to decide what game we should get next.

When Home launches, Sony will officially have the best online of all of this gen's systems...and it's free.
PS3_HOME_ALONE

You forgot to talk about the little dances people can do in front of each other with Home

lmao fakeboy?

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[QUOTE="texasfight54"]
MS will be MS and top this. Seriously though. MS will kill competition if they add something similar to this on live.
the-very-best


Sony have topped the competition and they've done so making it free for consumers.

I am looking forward to seeing how MS/Nintendo respond, because they need to.

I feel like a broken record, but here goes...

Gamertags, game demos, game trailers and videos, achivements, voice chat, video chat, the marketplace, are all free to use and explore. 

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Gaming is about playing FUN games with FUN gameplay; not about getting virtual prizes to justify your time playing games. The focus of gaming should be the ACT itself, not the consequence (getting some stupid trophey/item/achievement). Think about that for awhile. If the gaming industry becomes overtaken by this "we need to reward people for playing" attitude then the entire POINT of gaming, to have a GOOD time enjoying the gameplay, becomes moot. And thats just stupid.
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="texasfight54"]
MS will be MS and top this. Seriously though. MS will kill competition if they add something similar to this on live.
StephenKing_1



Sony have topped the competition and they've done so making it free for consumers.

I am looking forward to seeing how MS/Nintendo respond, because they need to.

I feel like a broken record, but here goes...

Gamertags, game demos, game trailers and videos, achivements, voice chat, video chat, the marketplace, are all free to use and explore.

I know that. :|
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[QUOTE="MaTT2011"]Gaming is about playing FUN games with FUN gameplay; not about getting virtual prizes to justify your time playing games. The focus of gaming should be the ACT itself, not the consequence (getting some stupid trophey/item/achievement). Think about that for awhile. If the gaming industry becomes overtaken by this "we need to reward people for playing" attitude then the entire POINT of gaming, to have a GOOD time enjoying the gameplay, becomes moot. And thats just stupid.



A sense of achievement comes from being rewarded by trophies etc.

Nothing wrong with that. Nobody is forcing you to dedicate your life to the game and get every trophy possible.
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[QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="texasfight54"]
MS will be MS and top this. Seriously though. MS will kill competition if they add something similar to this on live.
the-very-best



Sony have topped the competition and they've done so making it free for consumers.

I am looking forward to seeing how MS/Nintendo respond, because they need to.

I feel like a broken record, but here goes...

Gamertags, game demos, game trailers and videos, achivements, voice chat, video chat, the marketplace, are all free to use and explore.

I know that. :|

If that's true, then why do you keep boasting about Home being free? Toppling the competition? etc

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="texasfight54"]
MS will be MS and top this. Seriously though. MS will kill competition if they add something similar to this on live.
StephenKing_1



Sony have topped the competition and they've done so making it free for consumers.

I am looking forward to seeing how MS/Nintendo respond, because they need to.

I feel like a broken record, but here goes...

Gamertags, game demos, game trailers and videos, achivements, voice chat, video chat, the marketplace, are all free to use and explore.

I know that. :|

If that's true, then why do you keep boasting about Home being free? Toppling the competition? etc



PSHome is free. PSN is free.

Eventually Sony are going to top the competition. I really think XBL price should be reduced now. I think Wii's service is fine though as it's safe for all to use.
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The Poll is now up, sorry guys, I think that when I first posted this behemoth, it broke gamespot's forums ; ; sorry! Please Poll! And thanks for the responses, I'll get to reading them right away!
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[QUOTE="lazerluke"]

How do you explain a game such as Virtua Tennis 3 from Sega that has no online play for the PS3 but has online play on the 360. Also Tony Hawk's Project 8 - No online for PS3 but "Xbox Live support really make the Xbox 360 version stand out" says GS.

PSN is free to the users but not the developers so it will always have less games online.

PSHome has less features than XBL but is presented in a virtual 3d world. I prefer to look at someone through my xbox live cam while playing a game such as BB2 and talk to them. I was playing co-op GEoW today with my Brother on XBL, the PS3 is years away from providing an experience like this.

shungokustasu
1. Sega is cheap and lazy. 2. It's Virtua Tennis 3. Don't lie about PSHome having less features than the XBL. It cleary has what XBL has and more.



I'm gonna ask this again for the 80th time because I never get an answer and I still don't know the answer. Does PSN have cross game messaging, universal friends list, cross game invites, and a unified friends list?
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I'm gonna ask this again for the 80th time because I never get an answer and I still don't know the answer. Does PSN have cross game messaging, universal friends list, cross game invites, and a unified friends list?
Blackbond


I'm not quite sure if Sony's already done it but Unified Buddy List, Arcade/demos, cross game invites and multi tasking are confirmed by Sony to be added onto PSN either in March or a very near future update.
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#31 Philosoma
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[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]Just one problem. You pay for xbox live online play for a simple reason. Sony doesn't set up servers that allow players to connect with eachother (unless we're talking about first-party titles, naturally). So in every other game, the developer, or publisher, has to set up servers that will allow players to connect. Hence the lobby system. Because you can't put it in as a standard function unless every developer/publisher agrees to use the same setup. And that's a hassle to get done (ever see EA & Ubi agree on something? I sure don't) Basically what this means is that you'll see more games with online enabled on the Xbox 360 than on the PS3, and you will definitly see this in multiplats. This is how Xbox360 one ups the PS3.... and honestly, the "Home" thing isn't anything more than a way to make people forget about the lack of titles that make the invested 600,- worth it.



Well, I think as all things that Sony does, they are looking at the market from the view of Sony and not the developers lol. Having a reliable system like XBL would be great, but maybe Sony can't do that because of the costs and they don't want to turn away people with a monthly fee - remember, PS3 has only been out for roughly 4 months, so they have a lot to copy and improve.

I agree you in that, yeah, we spent 600$ on this thing, we must be optimistic for PSHome.
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yes! yes!....lets all thank nintendo and microsoft for inspiring sony for coming up with the home idea....they were very late gathering ideas*cough*.....seriously, sony has no brain at all....when 360 came out it was all ready and prepared with the achievement system and xbox live equiped.....sony came out with nothing innovative at all, the sixaxis is lame compared to rumble and blu-ray is just a poor excuse to advertise the product which damaged the launch.....nintendo and microsoft owns alot of the credit for sony comming up with the home idea and they opened sonys eyes for relising how bad their online system was compared to live.... 
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the great thing about FREE online is that half the games wont be online and wen they r will probably just be cut off because developers cant be bothered forking out money to keep them online.
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#34 Timesplitter14
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I didn't expect poll results to be so good...
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#35 StephenKing_1
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[QUOTE="StephenKing_1"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="texasfight54"]
MS will be MS and top this. Seriously though. MS will kill competition if they add something similar to this on live.
the-very-best



Sony have topped the competition and they've done so making it free for consumers.

I am looking forward to seeing how MS/Nintendo respond, because they need to.

I feel like a broken record, but here goes...

Gamertags, game demos, game trailers and videos, achivements, voice chat, video chat, the marketplace, are all free to use and explore.

I know that. :|

If that's true, then why do you keep boasting about Home being free? Toppling the competition? etc



PSHome is free. PSN is free.

Eventually Sony are going to top the competition. I really think XBL price should be reduced now. I think Wii's service is fine though as it's safe for all to use.

Why would MS reduce the price?  They have over 6 million people more than willing to pay for their service, and the number is only growing, not shrinking. 

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#36 Shadow2k6
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I think its a nice addition but not some that the PS3 has to have to be good.  I do think it makes more sense then gamerscore since people have been cheating by "gamesaving" to get gamerscores above 100,000.  However I don't think achievements are that important.
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#37 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'm gonna ask this again for the 80th time because I never get an answer and I still don't know the answer. Does PSN have cross game messaging, universal friends list, cross game invites, and a unified friends list?
the-very-best


I'm not quite sure if Sony's already done it but Unified Buddy List, Arcade/demos, cross game invites and multi tasking are confirmed by Sony to be added onto PSN either in March or a very near future update.



So in other words we don't know when this is coming or how exactly it will work yet people are so quick to say PSN > XBL. That's not very good use of logic. People should just be quiet and wait until PSN shows its stuff instead of mindlessly hyping something that they have no idea how it will be implimented.
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#38 VoodooHak
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Home may actuallly be something that redeems PSN. Sony definitely needed the good news.

But something still bothers me about it.....

I mean, does Sony really address all the weaknesses of PSN with Home?

Since the PS3 is open to the whole internet via its web browser, how does it address network security?
Since it's free, what's to stop a griefer from making a new account every day so you can't keep track of 'em?
How will it be regulated? XBL is part regulated by the community itself, part by actual MS personnel.
Have game invites become standardarized and functional? Or are they still relegated to simple text messages?

And about their achievements..... if it's a new requirement for PS3 games, does that mean 1st year games will be patched for achievements or are early adopters out of luck?

I mean.... Home is a great veneer to their interface, but there are still alot of questions about the core functinality that have to be answered.
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#39 the-very-best
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I didn't expect poll results to be so good...Timesplitter14


It's an excellent, free feature.

I would be surprised if someone thought it was bad. Not only surprised, but I'd probably ignore their future opinions because it doesn't make sense to hate on something like this.

It should be praised and I really want MS to counteract with a price drop for XBL, because I still think it's too expensive. PSN will eventually match it in terms of quality.

As for multiplats I can definitely see GS giving the "best" tag to the PS3 in the future now that Sony pretty much has everything MS has for their online, although since many devs have already claimed that multiplats will be better on the PS3 (Criterion for Burnout 5, FRD for Haze) I expect PS3 to get the "best" tag for all multiplats starting next year as soon as Home is established.
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#40 Shadow2k6
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'm gonna ask this again for the 80th time because I never get an answer and I still don't know the answer. Does PSN have cross game messaging, universal friends list, cross game invites, and a unified friends list?
Blackbond


I'm not quite sure if Sony's already done it but Unified Buddy List, Arcade/demos, cross game invites and multi tasking are confirmed by Sony to be added onto PSN either in March or a very near future update.



So in other words we don't know when this is coming or how exactly it will work yet people are so quick to say PSN > XBL. That's not very good use of logic. People should just be quiet and wait until PSN shows its stuff instead of mindlessly hyping something that they have no idea how it will be implimented.

Some people (fanboys) might be quick to say PSN > XBL but personally some of us know that XBL is the best service for online gaming.  I wish and hope PSN gets to the point where its close to PSN so I get the same experience playing Ratchet and Clank or MGS4 like I do playing Gears of War on 360.

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#41 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'm gonna ask this again for the 80th time because I never get an answer and I still don't know the answer. Does PSN have cross game messaging, universal friends list, cross game invites, and a unified friends list?
Blackbond


I'm not quite sure if Sony's already done it but Unified Buddy List, Arcade/demos, cross game invites and multi tasking are confirmed by Sony to be added onto PSN either in March or a very near future update.



So in other words we don't know when this is coming or how exactly it will work yet people are so quick to say PSN > XBL. That's not very good use of logic. People should just be quiet and wait until PSN shows its stuff instead of mindlessly hyping something that they have no idea how it will be implimented.



I don't think anyone is saying PSN > XBL right now. I'm certainly not.

I'm just saying it will be better in the future especially when PSHome hits since Sony will pretty much have everything MS has for their online, but it will be free.

I really doubt Sony won't deliver on this. We all know they need a good online, and they know it too.
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#42 Philosoma
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yes! yes!....lets all thank nintendo and microsoft for inspiring sony for coming up with the home idea....they were very late gathering ideas*cough*.....seriously, sony has no brain at all....when 360 came out it was all ready and prepared with the achievement system and xbox live equiped.....sony came out with nothing innovative at all, the sixaxis is lame compared to rumble and blu-ray is just a poor excuse to advertise the product which damaged the launch.....nintendo and microsoft owns alot of the credit for sony comming up with the home idea and they opened sonys eyes for relising how bad their online system was compared to live.... Yakuza_Pride


I think we should be thankful, Sony is in a rough spot and they need to pull all of the stops to get things right. Sony has a brand power that will sell their PS3 well in Japan, Korea, and China and they can't just give up. You say they copy companies like MS and Nintendo - sure all of these companies are copying something - but really innovating the usage?

Gamer Score? Miis? I use both... they are boring.
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#43 KeyWii
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PSHome looks a lot better than MS and Nintendo offerings.
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#44 the-very-best
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Why would MS reduce the price? They have over 6 million people more than willing to pay for their service, and the number is only growing, not shrinking. StephenKing_1


When Sony matches XBL (or at least gets very close to with PSHome etc) don't you agree MS should drop the price for XBL?

I mean, hypothetically speaking, if Sony matches XBL for their system for free shouldn't MS follow? I think they should, do you disagree?
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#45 ps3-nikita
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You know one of the good things about achievements and gamerscore. It is a guranteed in every game, even if its a xbla game. Call em when Gamergat pics get replaced with home pics. I personally will take scores over a pic of a trophy. I do think stripes and rank are good within some games. To play house not my thing.
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#46 Philosoma
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PSHome looks a lot better than MS and Nintendo offerings.KeyWii


I'm really interested in trophies 8)

This will give devs a chance to advertise their games to gamers inside of an ingame community with their game-logo sweatshirts. I like it!
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#47 Philosoma
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You know one of the good things about achievements and gamerscore. It is a guranteed in every game, even if its a xbla game. Call em when Gamergat pics get replaced with home pics. I personally will take scores over a pic of a trophy. I do think stripes and rank are good within some games. To play house not my thing.ps3-nikita


But think of all of the gamers and casuals that might not think that way. The appeal of MMO-esque virtual life is appealing to more than stereotyped societal outcasts lol.
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#48 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'm gonna ask this again for the 80th time because I never get an answer and I still don't know the answer. Does PSN have cross game messaging, universal friends list, cross game invites, and a unified friends list?
the-very-best


I'm not quite sure if Sony's already done it but Unified Buddy List, Arcade/demos, cross game invites and multi tasking are confirmed by Sony to be added onto PSN either in March or a very near future update.



So in other words we don't know when this is coming or how exactly it will work yet people are so quick to say PSN > XBL. That's not very good use of logic. People should just be quiet and wait until PSN shows its stuff instead of mindlessly hyping something that they have no idea how it will be implimented.



I don't think anyone is saying PSN > XBL right now. I'm certainly not.

I'm just saying it will be better in the future especially when PSHome hits since Sony will pretty much have everything MS has for their online, but it will be free.

I really doubt Sony won't deliver on this. We all know they need a good online, and they know it too.



Are you kidding me man? Tons of cows are saying PSN > XBL even before these updates were even announced lol
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#49 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]PSHome looks a lot better than MS and Nintendo offerings.Philosoma


I'm really interested in trophies 8)

This will give devs a chance to advertise their games to gamers inside of an ingame community with their game-logo sweatshirts. I like it!



But in all practicality, what's the difference between that and an achievement I display on my gamercard?

Will Sony build some kind of web-based connectivity?
Will Sony support community developers the way MS has?
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#50 the-very-best
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Are you kidding me man? Tons of cows are saying PSN > XBL even before these updates were even announced lol
Blackbond


lol, it's just excitement blackbond.

I mean, PSN is looking great now and will eventually match XBL so it's of course got many people excited, including myself of course.

Making it clear though, at the moment XBL > PSN without a doubt.