PS3 Will catch Wii's in Sales IF...

People decide to upgrade to the PS3. Its pretty much common sense that PS2 owners Will buy a PS3, they are not going to downgrade to the Wii.

I know for a fact, Casual Gamers love GRAPHICS, I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type) And dont' reply "Yea, your town equals the whole world :roll:" thats usually the first step denial. I live in a city of about 600,000 people, sure its not a whole lot compared to countries, but I know alot of casual gamers, and all they talk about is Gears of War, Call of Duty, Socom, my point? They love violent games, they love shooting games, and some that I have acquaintances with love RPG's such as Final Fantasy. Most of my pals are PS2 gamers, and play Socom online, and are waiting for Socom to purchase a PS3, not one ever thought about the Wii.

I mean come on who wants to play Bloombox, Ninjabread man, seriously if I wanted to play those type of games, I would have bought a portable system. This is a console, we dont need so much shovelware, Sure it might sell, mostly from kids, Although it helps Nintendo, and Wii fans have a orgasm over alot of sales. "Wooo we sold 700,00 consoles!" yea, good for you, but where are the games that you guys say there are? Wii Fit? Bloom box? The Dog Island? Come on! I have only seen 5 Wii games worth playing, Super Smash, Metroid, Super Mario and No more Heroes. And Wii fans, please, dont list games that I have never heard of, and dont list games like Ninjabread man, Wii Ware, Wii Fit, because those games..is a really embarassing list, maybe not to you, but to alot of casual gamers I know, (yes I know my city doesnt equal to Japan)

The PS3 has games coming up like Metal Gear Solid(proven to sell over a million copies, and alot of people will buy this game with a PS3), Killzone 2(I have a friend waiting for this game, and dont even say its a flop, not to millions of other people), Socom(I play PS2 online, and there are more than 10,000 players online daily, Alot of them waiting to buy a PS3), Gran Turismo (need I say more?) LittleBigPlanet(yes, its a platformer that most of you will say is boring, I could say Super Mario is boring, but who am I? Im not a sheep, I cant say anything bad about the Wii, because I will get modded..again.), Grand Theft Auto VI(Definate power seller), Final Fantasy (eh, it wont come out this year, but it will help boost sales), God Of War III (wont come out this year but will boost sales)

what I am trying to say is Kaz Harai is right, the playstation will regain its lead, maybe not this year, maybe not next year, but it eventually will, and dont even think about saying "Just wait LULZ :lol:" I think that has to be the most supidest thing to say, no offense, since so many people get offended here. Playstation will regain the lead, maybe not soon, but it will. Wii is going to slow down once they see more games like Wii Dance.

This is perhaps the worst argument ever about this.

The PS3 will regain the lead if everyone with a Wii buys a PS3?

Why stop there? Why not just "The PS3 will sell the most units once everyone who buys a lightbulb also buys a PS3"

It would make just as much sense.

This is perhaps the worst argument ever about this.

The PS3 will regain the lead if everyone with a Wii buys a PS3?

Why stop there? Why not just "The PS3 will sell the most units once everyone who buys a lightbulb also buys a PS3"

It would make just as much sense.

Jaysonguy

Maybe im illiterate or that doesnt make sense. I said PS2 owners Will buy a PS3, A playstation console gamer upgrades to another Playstation console, Where in my little arguement did I say Wii gamers will buy a PS3? I said that PS2 gamers Will not buy a Wii that some of you have claimed.

I'd say that's simply a mix of wishful thinking and fanboyism you've cooked up there.ithilgore2006

What he said.

This is perhaps the worst argument ever about this.

The PS3 will regain the lead if everyone with a Wii buys a PS3?

Why stop there? Why not just "The PS3 will sell the most units once everyone who buys a lightbulb also buys a PS3"

It would make just as much sense.

Jaysonguy

*thumbs up*

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

This is perhaps the worst argument ever about this.

The PS3 will regain the lead if everyone with a Wii buys a PS3?

Why stop there? Why not just "The PS3 will sell the most units once everyone who buys a lightbulb also buys a PS3"

It would make just as much sense.

CWEBB04z

Maybe im illiterate or that doesnt make sense. I said PS2 owners Will buy a PS3, A playstation console gamer upgrades to another Playstation console, Where in my little arguement did I say Wii gamers will buy a PS3? I said that PS2 gamers Will not buy a Wii that some of you have claimed.

Oh you meant upgrading from last gen not upgrading from Wii to PS3?

Well that makes a bit more sense until you got to the part where casuals love graphics which is wrong times about the highest number you're thinking of right now.

Honestly that's also where I stopped reading since you're too far wrong to go right (even defining that "upgrade" remark)

With that, good luck with this thread

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

This is perhaps the worst argument ever about this.

The PS3 will regain the lead if everyone with a Wii buys a PS3?

Why stop there? Why not just "The PS3 will sell the most units once everyone who buys a lightbulb also buys a PS3"

It would make just as much sense.

CWEBB04z

Maybe im illiterate or that doesnt make sense. I said PS2 owners Will buy a PS3, A playstation console gamer upgrades to another Playstation console, Where in my little arguement did I say Wii gamers will buy a PS3? I said that PS2 gamers Will not buy a Wii that some of you have claimed.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

This is perhaps the worst argument ever about this.

The PS3 will regain the lead if everyone with a Wii buys a PS3?

Why stop there? Why not just "The PS3 will sell the most units once everyone who buys a lightbulb also buys a PS3"

It would make just as much sense.

Jaysonguy

Maybe im illiterate or that doesnt make sense. I said PS2 owners Will buy a PS3, A playstation console gamer upgrades to another Playstation console, Where in my little arguement did I say Wii gamers will buy a PS3? I said that PS2 gamers Will not buy a Wii that some of you have claimed.

Oh you meant upgrading from last gen not upgrading from Wii to PS3?

Well that makes a bit more sense until you got to the part where casuals love graphics which is wrong times about the highest number you're thinking of right now.

Honestly that's also where I stopped reading since you're too far wrong to go right (even defining that "upgrade" remark)

With that, good luck with this thread

eh, Im going to get bashed by alot of Wii gamers. But what the heck, gamespot isnt my life.

haha no it wotn. The PS3 bombed and anyone who knows anything about games is buying a PC or 360 insteadmicki_free

haha you have a sense of humor I see, that was hilarious, well maybe not that funny. PS3 did not bomb, it surpassed 10 million sales, Many claimed it wouldnt, and No I have no proof, my memory tells me that it is a fact. a PC? I have a PC...for Internet, and other purposes, I dont want to play PC games. Xbox360? my brother has gone through 4 360's, he even sold his last 360 on ebay, and it croaked on the buyer, Hehas given up on the 360, and is advancing to the PS3/PC platform.

EDIT: Well goshdarn, I double posted...well I'll be my mothers uncle, Im going to get a moderation..

I mean come on who wants to play Bloombox, Ninjabread man, seriously if I wanted to play those type of games, I would have bought a portable system. This is a console, we dont need so much shovelware, Sure it might sell, mostly from kids, Although it helps Nintendo, and Wii fans have a orgasm over alot of sales. "Wooo we sold 700,00 consoles!" yea, good for you, but where are the games that you guys say there are? Wii Fit? Bloom box? The Dog Island? Come on! I have only seen 5 Wii games worth playing, Super Smash, Metroid, Super Mario and No more Heroes. And Wii fans, please, dont list games that I have never heard of, and dont list games like Ninjabread man, Wii Ware, Wii Fit, because those games..is a really embarassing list, maybe not to you, but to alot of casual gamers I know, (yes I know my city doesnt equal to Japan)

CWEBB04z

The PS3 needs to first outsell the Wii. It's selling more recently, but the gap between the PS3 and Wiii continues to grow.

PS2 upgraders are casual (120 million owners is an indicator of a casual audience) and will probably upgrade to the Wii.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I mean come on who wants to play Bloombox, Ninjabread man, seriously if I wanted to play those type of games, I would have bought a portable system. This is a console, we dont need so much shovelware, Sure it might sell, mostly from kids, Although it helps Nintendo, and Wii fans have a orgasm over alot of sales. "Wooo we sold 700,00 consoles!" yea, good for you, but where are the games that you guys say there are? Wii Fit? Bloom box? The Dog Island? Come on! I have only seen 5 Wii games worth playing, Super Smash, Metroid, Super Mario and No more Heroes. And Wii fans, please, dont list games that I have never heard of, and dont list games like Ninjabread man, Wii Ware, Wii Fit, because those games..is a really embarassing list, maybe not to you, but to alot of casual gamers I know, (yes I know my city doesnt equal to Japan)

lolfiretruck

Oh yea, I made up all the games, The Dog island doesnt exist (Darn gamespot searches..It came up as a Wii game), I made up the fact that Wii gamers get excited over Wii selling 700,00 consoles, yep, I making it up guys, I lost this arguement here.

haha you have a sense of humor I see, that was hilarious, well maybe not that funny. PS3 did not bomb, it surpassed 10 million sales, Many claimed it wouldnt, and No I have no proof, my memory tells me that it is a fact.

CWEBB04z

10 million is impressive?

a PC? I have a PC...for Internet, and other purposes, I dont want to play PC games. Xbox360? my brother has gone through 4 360's, he even sold his last 360 on ebay, and it croaked on the buyer, Hehas given up on the 360, and is advancing to the PS3/PC platform.

CWEBB04z

it's the price you apy for superior games, and the PC is very good if you get it upgraded. Far better than the PS3 in fact, tha's why cows keep going on about how they can play 360 games on the PC in order to defend their rubbish consle

EDIT: Well goshdarn, I double posted...well I'll be my mothers uncle, Im going to get a moderation..

CWEBB04z

it's an easy mistake to make don't worry about it

:lol:

If

We know it won't happen, infact nothing looks like it's gonna pass the Wii at the moment.

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

CWEBB04z

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

haha you have a sense of humor I see, that was hilarious, well maybe not that funny. PS3 did not bomb, it surpassed 10 million sales, Many claimed it wouldnt, and No I have no proof, my memory tells me that it is a fact.

micki_free

10 million is impressive?

a PC? I have a PC...for Internet, and other purposes, I dont want to play PC games. Xbox360? my brother has gone through 4 360's, he even sold his last 360 on ebay, and it croaked on the buyer, Hehas given up on the 360, and is advancing to the PS3/PC platform.

CWEBB04z

it's the price you apy for superior games, and the PC is very good if you get it upgraded. Far better than the PS3 in fact, tha's why cows keep going on about how they can play 360 games on the PC in order to defend their rubbish consle

EDIT: Well goshdarn, I double posted...well I'll be my mothers uncle, Im going to get a moderation..

CWEBB04z

it's an easy mistake to make don't worry about it

10 million is considering people in system wars kept stating that the PS3 wouldnt sell over 10 million because its over $400.

The PC upgraded is very good, but Im not spending $200 for a graphic card, and Im not going to play Halo or Gears of War on the PC because...I dont like those games. Those "cows" you speak of probably are just pulling statments out of there rear end. and the PS3 isnt rubbish, I like it, and so do millions of other people.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Oh you meant upgrading from last gen not upgrading from Wii to PS3?

Well that makes a bit more sense until you got to the part where casuals love graphics which is wrong times about the highest number you're thinking of right now.

Honestly that's also where I stopped reading since you're too far wrong to go right (even defining that "upgrade" remark)

With that, good luck with this thread

CWEBB04z

eh, Im going to get bashed by alot of Wii gamers. But what the heck, gamespot isnt my life.

He's right though. Most of the time casuals can't even tell what good graphics are. How many millions of gamers last generation though that the PS2 had the best graphics? How many thought that GTA3 was a graphical marvel? Beyond that, the Playstation brand has always had the weakest hardware, yet they've always one (although their presence in the industry has been short so far).

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

mattbbpl

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

so im incoherent? im speaking like "fijdffj fdgjfj fpodf"? I spoke in text english form, I think its pretty legible, and easy to read, or maybe your mind is narrow minded to see what Im trying to point out. A Hardcore gamer loves Mario, not very many Casuals like Mario, they like Halo, Gears Of War, and Call Of duty.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Oh you meant upgrading from last gen not upgrading from Wii to PS3?

Well that makes a bit more sense until you got to the part where casuals love graphics which is wrong times about the highest number you're thinking of right now.

Honestly that's also where I stopped reading since you're too far wrong to go right (even defining that "upgrade" remark)

With that, good luck with this thread

mattbbpl

eh, Im going to get bashed by alot of Wii gamers. But what the heck, gamespot isnt my life.

He's right though. Most of the time casuals can't even tell what good graphics are. How many millions of gamers last generation though that the PS2 had the best graphics? How many thought that GTA3 was a graphical marvel? Beyond that, the Playstation brand has always had the weakest hardware, yet they've always one (although their presence in the industry has been short so far).

Well, Whenever I play Socom online, the majority of them complain how the graphics suck, and are waiting for Socom confrontation, and praising how great its graphics are. Thats what Im basing my graphics department on.

10 million is considering people in system wars kept stating that the PS3 wouldnt sell over 10 million because its over $400.

The PC upgraded is very good, but Im not spending $200 for a graphic card, and Im not going to play Halo or Gears of War on the PC because...I dont like those games. Those "cows" you speak of probably are just pulling statments out of there rear end. and the PS3 isnt rubbish, I like it, and so do millions of other people.

CWEBB04z

10 million seemed like quite a feat with the 600 dollar price tag but i don't think anyone seriously believed that the successor to a 120 million selling console couldn't sell 10 million.

and the PS3 is rubbish compared to the PC and 360 (although as you've rightly pointed out Pc gaming involves a pretty major investment). I'm not going to elaborate on that further because you're obviously of higher stock than the average cow on this forum

I trust you'll reach the same conclusion on your own

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

CWEBB04z

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

so im incoherent? im speaking like "fijdffj fdgjfj fpodf"? I spoke in text english form, I think its pretty legible, and easy to read, or maybe your mind is narrow minded to see what Im trying to point out. A Hardcore gamer loves Mario, not very many Casuals like Mario, they like Halo, Gears Of War, and Call Of duty.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

This is perhaps the worst argument ever about this.

The PS3 will regain the lead if everyone with a Wii buys a PS3?

Why stop there? Why not just "The PS3 will sell the most units once everyone who buys a lightbulb also buys a PS3"

It would make just as much sense.

CWEBB04z

Maybe im illiterate or that doesnt make sense. I said PS2 owners Will buy a PS3, A playstation console gamer upgrades to another Playstation console, Where in my little arguement did I say Wii gamers will buy a PS3? I said that PS2 gamers Will not buy a Wii that some of you have claimed.

Im pretty sure a good number of PS2 owners have already upgraded. Are you trying to say that out of the... 150 million or so consoles sold last generation (nearly 100 million of which were PS2s?) none of those PS2 owners have purchased one of the 60 or so million consoles purchased this gen? Id be willing to bet that atleast a fifth of the PS2 owners from last gen currently own a next gen console, and im pretty sure there aren't 20 million PS3s sold yet...

[QUOTE="lolfiretruck"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I mean come on who wants to play Bloombox, Ninjabread man, seriously if I wanted to play those type of games, I would have bought a portable system. This is a console, we dont need so much shovelware, Sure it might sell, mostly from kids, Although it helps Nintendo, and Wii fans have a orgasm over alot of sales. "Wooo we sold 700,00 consoles!" yea, good for you, but where are the games that you guys say there are? Wii Fit? Bloom box? The Dog Island? Come on! I have only seen 5 Wii games worth playing, Super Smash, Metroid, Super Mario and No more Heroes. And Wii fans, please, dont list games that I have never heard of, and dont list games like Ninjabread man, Wii Ware, Wii Fit, because those games..is a really embarassing list, maybe not to you, but to alot of casual gamers I know, (yes I know my city doesnt equal to Japan)

CWEBB04z

Oh yea, I made up all the games, The Dog island doesnt exist (Darn gamespot searches..It came up as a Wii game), I made up the fact that Wii gamers get excited over Wii selling 700,00 consoles, yep, I making it up guys, I lost this arguement here.

It's called Boom Blox, not Bloombox, and it, along with most of the Wii library, would not play well on a handheld at all.

All successful consoles get tons of shovelware.

How do you know most shovelware sells to kids?

There are far more than 5 games worth playing, and how come we cannot list games you dont know about even if they're good?

Wii ware isn't a game. You will be able to download games from wiiware similer to xbox live arcade and psn, although the games will probably be better than those found on other consoles because it will be cheaper to develop games and there will be less restrictions.

oh lord. that whole idea of all the ps2 owners waiting to buy a ps3 is obviously wrong.

what are they waiting for? dont tell me games (cause thats not it), price? (nope, had a couple of new sku's), blu-ray (recent articles state that blu-ray sales have NOT increased much since the death of HD-DVD)

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

air_wolf_cubed

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

so im incoherent? im speaking like "fijdffj fdgjfj fpodf"? I spoke in text english form, I think its pretty legible, and easy to read, or maybe your mind is narrow minded to see what Im trying to point out. A Hardcore gamer loves Mario, not very many Casuals like Mario, they like Halo, Gears Of War, and Call Of duty.

360 is mostly made up of Casual population. Wii has casuals, just mostly familes, Like I said alot of kids buy Wii's Well there parents buy it for them.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

CWEBB04z

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

so im incoherent? im speaking like "fijdffj fdgjfj fpodf"? I spoke in text english form, I think its pretty legible, and easy to read, or maybe your mind is narrow minded to see what Im trying to point out. A Hardcore gamer loves Mario, not very many Casuals like Mario, they like Halo, Gears Of War, and Call Of duty.

It's not that your vocabulary or grammar is incorrect, it's just that your argument's structure is ill-formed and unfocused, and your points aren't formed together to make a clear and concise argument.

And Mario is a title that many casuals and hardcores enjoy alike. There are Nintendo titles that have little appeal outside of the hardcore crowd such as the Prime series, but Mario titles aren't among them.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

CWEBB04z

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

so im incoherent? im speaking like "fijdffj fdgjfj fpodf"? I spoke in text english form, I think its pretty legible, and easy to read, or maybe your mind is narrow minded to see what Im trying to point out. A Hardcore gamer loves Mario, not very many Casuals like Mario, they like Halo, Gears Of War, and Call Of duty.

360 is mostly made up of Casual population. Wii has casuals, just mostly familes, Like I said alot of kids buy Wii's Well there parents buy it for them.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Oh you meant upgrading from last gen not upgrading from Wii to PS3?

Well that makes a bit more sense until you got to the part where casuals love graphics which is wrong times about the highest number you're thinking of right now.

Honestly that's also where I stopped reading since you're too far wrong to go right (even defining that "upgrade" remark)

With that, good luck with this thread

CWEBB04z

eh, Im going to get bashed by alot of Wii gamers. But what the heck, gamespot isnt my life.

He's right though. Most of the time casuals can't even tell what good graphics are. How many millions of gamers last generation though that the PS2 had the best graphics? How many thought that GTA3 was a graphical marvel? Beyond that, the Playstation brand has always had the weakest hardware, yet they've always one (although their presence in the industry has been short so far).

Well, Whenever I play Socom online, the majority of them complain how the graphics suck, and are waiting for Socom confrontation, and praising how great its graphics are. Thats what Im basing my graphics department on.

Forming a conclusion based on such a small sample of anecdotal evidence from such a homogenous group (players of not only one type of game, but one game) is not a good way to conclude anything about tens of millions of people.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

CWEBB04z

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

so im incoherent? im speaking like "fijdffj fdgjfj fpodf"? I spoke in text english form, I think its pretty legible, and easy to read, or maybe your mind is narrow minded to see what Im trying to point out. A Hardcore gamer loves Mario, not very many Casuals like Mario, they like Halo, Gears Of War, and Call Of duty.

360 is mostly made up of Casual population. Wii has casuals, just mostly familes, Like I said alot of kids buy Wii's Well there parents buy it for them.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type)

ithilgore2006

Either your definition of hardcore gamer is too narrow and, frankly, incorrect, or you just don't know a wide variety of hardcore gamers.

Since you basically rambled on into gibberish with no real coherent meaning beyond this point, I'll just end my reply there.

so im incoherent? im speaking like "fijdffj fdgjfj fpodf"? I spoke in text english form, I think its pretty legible, and easy to read, or maybe your mind is narrow minded to see what Im trying to point out. A Hardcore gamer loves Mario, not very many Casuals like Mario, they like Halo, Gears Of War, and Call Of duty.

360 is mostly made up of Casual population. Wii has casuals, just mostly familes, Like I said alot of kids buy Wii's Well there parents buy it for them.

I know. Its amazing what my brain can accomplish!

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Oh you meant upgrading from last gen not upgrading from Wii to PS3?

Well that makes a bit more sense until you got to the part where casuals love graphics which is wrong times about the highest number you're thinking of right now.

Honestly that's also where I stopped reading since you're too far wrong to go right (even defining that "upgrade" remark)

With that, good luck with this thread

mattbbpl

eh, Im going to get bashed by alot of Wii gamers. But what the heck, gamespot isnt my life.

He's right though. Most of the time casuals can't even tell what good graphics are. How many millions of gamers last generation though that the PS2 had the best graphics? How many thought that GTA3 was a graphical marvel? Beyond that, the Playstation brand has always had the weakest hardware, yet they've always one (although their presence in the industry has been short so far).

Well, Whenever I play Socom online, the majority of them complain how the graphics suck, and are waiting for Socom confrontation, and praising how great its graphics are. Thats what Im basing my graphics department on.

Forming a conclusion based on such a small sample of anecdotal evidence from such a homogenous group (players of not only one type of game, but one game) is not a good way to conclude anything about tens of millions of people.

okay, maybe that was a bad source, but it still a source of gamers waiting to buy the game, and console.

I'd say that's simply a mix of wishful thinking and fanboyism you've cooked up there.ithilgore2006

lol

delusional cows are always good for a laugh

you cows keep thinking that the PS3 will catch up......i'll keep on laughing at you as the wii crushes the PS3 in sales month after month

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]I'd say that's simply a mix of wishful thinking and fanboyism you've cooked up there.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

it is a pretty absurd claim.

Well Sony plan to sell the PS3 for ten years in total, so you never know what may happen. The PS2 has had most of its sales with it priced at $200 or less, with a far better game selection than what the PS3 has now. However, the Wii may continue to sell very well for a long, long time to come, making it unrealistic for the PS3 to ever catch up.

How do we know that PS2 owners haven't already bought a Wii or XBox 360? :lol:

The PS3 ie behind the Wii by about 12million units. That is not going to be made up in 2-3 years. Especially if the Wii is still outselling the PS3 by 2:1 every week. The Wii would literally have to stop selling consoles for a couple of years for the PS3 to catch up. The PS3 would have to drop their price to $250 for sales to serious increase. Most like Sony will drop the PS3 to $350 this holiday and then to $300 in the Spring or at the E3 next year. M$ is definitely going to drop their price to $250 (360 Arcade) before the holidays in the U.S.

How do we know that PS2 owners haven't already bought a Wii or XBox 360? :lol:

The PS3 ie behind the Wii by about 12million units. That is not going to be made up in 2-3 years. Especially if the Wii is still outselling the PS3 by 2:1 every week. The Wii would literally have to stop selling consoles for a couple of years for the PS3 to catch up. The PS3 would have to drop their price to $250 for sales to serious increase. Most like Sony will drop the PS3 to $350 this holiday and then to $300 in the Spring or at the E3 next year. M$ is definitely going to drop their price to $250 (360 Arcade) before the holidays in the U.S.

blackace

If MS only drops the price of the Arcade to $250 this year, I will be surprised and disappointed. Isn't it time for a real price cut MS?

Your whole rant here TC pretty much equates to this:

Sony has awesome games coming out.

Nintendo games suck and are for kids.

Sales do not matter when Nintendo sells 700,000.

Yet PS3 will overtake sales soon like the god that is Kaz has said.

You provide your friends as some kind of proof that all casual gamers love graphics and hardcore gamers.

So I ask this, if casual gamers like graphics and hardcore games like SOCOM, Final Fantasy, etc. who in the heck is the Will selling like gangbusters too??

People decide to upgrade to the PS3. Its pretty much common sense that PS2 owners Will buy a PS3, they are not going to downgrade to the Wii.

I know for a fact, Casual Gamers love GRAPHICS, I have not seen one Casual gamer who loves games like Mario (Mario is hardcore Nintendo gamer type) And dont' reply "Yea, your town equals the whole world :roll:" thats usually the first step denial. I live in a city of about 600,000 people, sure its not a whole lot compared to countries, but I know alot of casual gamers, and all they talk about is Gears of War, Call of Duty, Socom, my point? They love violent games, they love shooting games, and some that I have acquaintances with love RPG's such as Final Fantasy. Most of my pals are PS2 gamers, and play Socom online, and are waiting for Socom to purchase a PS3, not one ever thought about the Wii.

I mean come on who wants to play Bloombox, Ninjabread man, seriously if I wanted to play those type of games, I would have bought a portable system. This is a console, we dont need so much shovelware, Sure it might sell, mostly from kids, Although it helps Nintendo, and Wii fans have a orgasm over alot of sales. "Wooo we sold 700,00 consoles!" yea, good for you, but where are the games that you guys say there are? Wii Fit? Bloom box? The Dog Island? Come on! I have only seen 5 Wii games worth playing, Super Smash, Metroid, Super Mario and No more Heroes. And Wii fans, please, dont list games that I have never heard of, and dont list games like Ninjabread man, Wii Ware, Wii Fit, because those games..is a really embarassing list, maybe not to you, but to alot of casual gamers I know, (yes I know my city doesnt equal to Japan)

The PS3 has games coming up like Metal Gear Solid(proven to sell over a million copies, and alot of people will buy this game with a PS3), Killzone 2(I have a friend waiting for this game, and dont even say its a flop, not to millions of other people), Socom(I play PS2 online, and there are more than 10,000 players online daily, Alot of them waiting to buy a PS3), Gran Turismo (need I say more?) LittleBigPlanet(yes, its a platformer that most of you will say is boring, I could say Super Mario is boring, but who am I? Im not a sheep, I cant say anything bad about the Wii, because I will get modded..again.), Grand Theft Auto VI(Definate power seller), Final Fantasy (eh, it wont come out this year, but it will help boost sales), God Of War III (wont come out this year but will boost sales)

what I am trying to say is Kaz Harai is right, the playstation will regain its lead, maybe not this year, maybe not next year, but it eventually will, and dont even think about saying "Just wait LULZ :lol:" I think that has to be the most supidest thing to say, no offense, since so many people get offended here. Playstation will regain the lead, maybe not soon, but it will. Wii is going to slow down once they see more games like Wii Dance.

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Huh? Not in australia. We dont ps3's that can play ps2 games. i WISH i could upgrade but i cant get rid of my ps2