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#1 GarchomPro
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What im talking about is, the 360 has sold about 10-12 million Consoles in almost 2 years. PS3 on the other hand has sold 5-6 million Consoles, according to Kaz Hiarai and TGS 2007 with a lack of games and a high price.

http://www.psu.com/Sony-announces-latest-PlayStation-sales-figures--a0001368-p0.php

Now lets look at the situation.

If The PS3 can sell that much with the difficulties and challenges it has faced what happens when the 40 gig for 399.99 is released?
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Notice how PS3's big titles havent been released yet? All the system sellers are set to release this fall/holiday season and mostly into 2008. Thers no denying games such as GT 5, or MGS4, FF 13 are system sellers. (yes MGS4 is a system seller, the franchise has sold over 20 million copies, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Franchises )

And im not alone on this http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=102370 Some are Predicting a jump to 16.5 million by March 2008. The PS3 will pass the 360 in sales, its just a matter of time and get the games out. Expect the 360 to be in 3rd place by December 2008

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#2 shiram
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i guess we just need to wait, right?
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#3 GarchomPro
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i guess we just need to wait, right?shiram


I didnt know im not allowed to predict stuff.
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#4 shiram
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predictions means we have to wait to see if they come true, right?

in all honesty, i would hope for the ps3 to rise up and meet its high standard to was set by past generations
but seeing Sony stumble and fail so many times, its hard not to feel like taking a jab at them and their cockiness

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#5 RonnieLottinSF
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No, but I'm sure Sony will make just enough to claim they did, even if they aren't selling.

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the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sony
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No one really knows. We'll have to just wait and see. We're used to waiting though.;)
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#8 rhaigun
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No, but I'm sure Sony will make just enough to claim they did, even if they aren't selling.

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If they cut the price yet again, they'll lose even more money.
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the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyParadiddleFill


I said December 2008
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#10 Just_Osmo
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I still want to see the proff it will be 399.99.

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the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyParadiddleFill

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyTimstuff

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.



And MS also spent billions on extended warranty. They have yet to see a profit from hardware.
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyTimstuff

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

didnt sony have a price drop this summer as well? yet everyone is saying that there could be another price drop by the holidays, and im sure microsoft knows this and doesnt want to lose its price point advantage

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyTimstuff

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

Sony just had a price cut and they're about to introduce another SKU with wifi and a 40GB HDD for another $100 less. Anything is possible and likely. This gen it's a messy battle.

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#15 GarchomPro
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyParadiddleFill

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

didnt sony have a price drop this summer as well? yet everyone is saying that there could be another price drop by the holidays, and im sure microsoft knows this and doesnt want to lose its price point advantage



MS has lost enough on consoles. I doubt they would want to lose any more. But sony on the other hand has profit coming form PS2 and PSP still
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyGarchomPro

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.



And MS also spent billions on extended warranty. They have yet to see a profit from hardware.

yet sony is still losing money on ps3 if they drop the price they will be losing so much money that it would take a really long time to recover. And microsoft makes money on other things like software and online

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#17 Ontain
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who cares? will it ever outsell the 360 in total? that's the only question that matters.
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyParadiddleFill

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.



And MS also spent billions on extended warranty. They have yet to see a profit from hardware.

yet sony is still losing money on ps3 if they drop the price they will be losing so much money that it would take a really long time to recover. And microsoft makes money on other things like software and online

and sony makes money in other areas too. you forget that ps1/ps2 were also sold at a loss the first years of their gen.:roll:
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#19 ff7isnumbaone
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No, but I'm sure Sony will make just enough to claim they did, even if they aren't selling.

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yea just like how ps2 didn't sell. yay! i see your point.

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#20 shiram
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyGarchomPro

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

didnt sony have a price drop this summer as well? yet everyone is saying that there could be another price drop by the holidays, and im sure microsoft knows this and doesnt want to lose its price point advantage



MS has lost enough on consoles. I doubt they would want to lose any more. But sony on the other hand has profit coming form PS2 and PSP still

well the news on gamespot was that they had to sell a branch of the company to aid its video games division
i wouldnt say sony is ringing in the dough with its gaming division right now

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#21 RonnieLottinSF
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Even if MS has a price drop, don't expect anything major. $25 at the most. They already have the momentum going into the holidays and that will continue at the price point they have now meaning they will see a profit for Q3 and Q4 putting them pretty much in the black which is where they want to be. They have the gaming lineup and now 360 sales are sky rocketing. No need to change things until early 2008. Then MS will probably have a nice $50 price drop to try and continue to momentum from late 2007.

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#22 RonnieLottinSF
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[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

No, but I'm sure Sony will make just enough to claim they did, even if they aren't selling.

ff7isnumbaone

yea just like how ps2 didn't sell. yay! i see your point.

Why would you bring the PS2 into a PS3/360 discussion? Oh wait. You think this gen has something to do with last gen. Go away cow and come back when you want to talk about the present and not the past.

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyTimstuff

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

Sony is going to drop the price of its hardware by 200$ inside 10 months of consoles release

The 360 has dropped 50$ in price 1.5 years after its release.MS is in a position to drop the price anytime it wants.

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#24 GarchomPro
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyParadiddleFill

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.



And MS also spent billions on extended warranty. They have yet to see a profit from hardware.

yet sony is still losing money on ps3 if they drop the price they will be losing so much money that it would take a really long time to recover. And microsoft makes money on other things like software and online



And Sony makes money on PS2, PSP, Tv's, Home Electronics and all the other things they make.
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyGarchomPro

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.



And MS also spent billions on extended warranty. They have yet to see a profit from hardware.

yet sony is still losing money on ps3 if they drop the price they will be losing so much money that it would take a really long time to recover. And microsoft makes money on other things like software and online



And Sony makes money on PS2, PSP, Tv's, Home Electronics and all the other things they make.

That is great and all, but the division that houses the PS3, PS2, PSP, etc lost around 2 billion last year and they expect to lose another billion or so for next year.

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonywhocares4peace

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

Sony is going to drop the price of its hardware by 200$ inside 10 months of consoles release

The 360 has dropped 50$ in price 1.5 years after its release.MS is in a position to drop the price anytime it wants.

MS actually didn't have the first price drop for the 360 until 21 months of the console being on the market which is the longest run in console history with out a price drop (PS2 held the record at 19 months).

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sales will definately pick up when the price goes to 399, but that won't put it down to mass appeal levels either. the ps2 was successful because it had the madden gta crowd. most of those guys still haven't bought a next gen console yet, although i'm willing to bet some of them just jumped on board with xbox with halo. there just isn't a clear winner right now. (besides Wii, but to me thats not the same market.)

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And Sony makes money on PS2, PSP, Tv's, Home Electronics and all the other things they make.

That is great and all, but the division that houses the PS3, PS2, PSP, etc lost around 2 billion last year and they expect to lose another billion or so for next year.

also microsoft makes money from software and online plus there OS

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So defending the PS3 by saying the PS3 is an overpriced system with few games, but its still selling because of brand loyalty apparantly.
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#30 RonnieLottinSF
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ParadiddleFill



And Sony makes money on PS2, PSP, Tv's, Home Electronics and all the other things they make.

That is great and all, but the division that houses the PS3, PS2, PSP, etc lost around 2 billion last year and they expect to lose another billion or so for next year.

also microsoft makes money from software and online plus there OS

Yep. Even though MS lost 1.8 billion last year on EDD or whatever that division is that houses the 360, they still netted 15 billion and had 51 billion in revenue which I believe is more than what Sony and Nintendo pulled in combined. They expect those numbers to go up next year (estimates I believe are 56 billion in revenue, 17 to 18 billion in net profit).

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Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wide
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Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideGarchomPro

:lol:

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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the only way that the ps3 can surpass the 360 in sales by 08 is if they 360 just stops selling altogether. So far the 360 has outsold the ps3 almost everymonth since its launch. And im also sure that by the time the ps3 has another price drop the 360 will also see one as well to put it in the200 dollar range which means game over for sonyGarchomPro

MS just had a price drop this summer so I doubt there will be another significant one anytime soon.

didnt sony have a price drop this summer as well? yet everyone is saying that there could be another price drop by the holidays, and im sure microsoft knows this and doesnt want to lose its price point advantage



MS has lost enough on consoles. I doubt they would want to lose any more. But sony on the other hand has profit coming form PS2 and PSP still

Cuz Microsoft isn't seeing profits anywhere else. The 360 is in a place in its lifecycle where it's SUPPOSED to start experiencing price cuts. The fact that the PS3 has already had one cut and is considering another is....PATHETIC. To spin it any other way is purely blind fanboyism. They're contemplating another cut because the Wii is kicking their butt in Japan and the 360 is kicking their butt everywhere else.

And no, the PS3 is NOT outselling the 360 anywhere in the world other than Japan. The 50K that the PS3 outsells the 360 in Japan doesn't come close to countering the fact that the 360 is outselling the PS3 in the US by 100K units, Europe by 50K units or more, Australia by 10K or more...

The gap widens, my friend. The more Sony spins, the more they stay in last place.

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When it does happen, I wonder what all the lemmings will say. "Meh, sales don't matter" :lol:.
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Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideGarchomPro

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)

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When it does happen, I wonder what all the lemmings will say. "Meh, sales don't matter" :lol:.EvilZero86

Yes, but 10 years from now (when the PS3 finally catches up) who will be here on SW to give a crap?

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i guess we just need to wait, right?shiram

Over used, ignorant lemming reply, #158. Using "wait" against a PS3 supporter instead of using anything with thought to counter claims. ITS FRIGGIN YEAR ONE FOR PS3 PEOPLE!!! Holy crap this gets old.

How long did lemmings "wait" for GeoW? How long did lemmings "wait" for Bioshock? How long did lemmings "wait" for Halo 3? Get a grip, hater. Waiting is the name of the game for movies, music, and video games. Things take time. especially the launch of new technologies.

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Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideGarchomPro

only if 360 just roles over and dies....

that won't happen by next Christmas, 360's price will probably be down by $100 from where its at now. the ps3 price cut combined with good games will only get it up to 360 levels. it will have to pass the 360 by a great margin to catch up. another point is how much this price cut will hurt ps3 as it is.

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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world widejaysin1414

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)



Well sucks for 360 owners then.. and think of it this way.

360 in a 2 year period with tons of games and a lower price has sold 10-12 million world wide.
PS3 in 1 year period with lack of games and the highest price has sold 5-6 million world wide.

So a low price + system selling games = Sales

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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideRonnieLottinSF

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#41 Skellington27
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[QUOTE="jaysin1414"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideGarchomPro

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)



Well sucks for 360 owners then.. and think of it this way.

360 in a 2 year period with tons of games and a lower price has sold 10-12 million world wide.
PS3 in 1 year period with lack of games and the highest price has sold 5-6 million world wide.

So a low price + system selling games = Sales

That seems like a reasonable conclusion, but we will just have to wait and see. Its to early to be declaring winners.

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#42 Hihatrider87
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[QUOTE="jaysin1414"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideGarchomPro

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)



Well sucks for 360 owners then.. and think of it this way.

360 in a 2 year period with tons of games and a lower price has sold 10-12 million world wide.
PS3 in 1 year period with lack of games and the highest price has sold 5-6 million world wide.

So a low price + system selling games = Sales

they are selling at the same pace, whIch is only because of 360's horrible performance in Japan. for 18-30 westerngamers, there isn't a better console to own then the 360 IMO. if you only like japanese devs, then i could understand your frustration.

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#43 RonnieLottinSF
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The Japanese are giving up on consoles. Go look at the last 2 months sales for that region for reference. The DS alone has out sold the Wii, PS3, 360, PS2 and GCN combined for the last 2 months. The last 2 weeks for consoles has been borderline dead in that region and seems to only be getting worse. MS concentrating more on Europe than Japan could win it for them considering those facts because much like Australia and NA, Europe also buys consoles, unlike Japan.
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#44 GarchomPro
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="jaysin1414"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideHihatrider87

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)



Well sucks for 360 owners then.. and think of it this way.

360 in a 2 year period with tons of games and a lower price has sold 10-12 million world wide.
PS3 in 1 year period with lack of games and the highest price has sold 5-6 million world wide.

So a low price + system selling games = Sales

they are selling at the same pace, whIch is only because of 360's horrible performance in Japan. for 18-30 westerngamers, there isn't a better console to own then the 360 IMO. if you only like japanese devs, then i could understand your frustration.



And because PS3's high price and lack of games. but that will be fixed.. you cant fix the 360's failure in Japan
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#45 jaysin1414
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[QUOTE="jaysin1414"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideGarchomPro

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)



Well sucks for 360 owners then.. and think of it this way.

360 in a 2 year period with tons of games and a lower price has sold 10-12 million world wide.
PS3 in 1 year period with lack of games and the highest price has sold 5-6 million world wide.

So a low price + system selling games = Sales

You're crazy if you think the PS3 has sold 6 million units. During E3 Sony themselves admitted it had just reached 4 million units worldwide (and even, that was greeted with healthy skepticism). Since then, every credible source has commented on how poorly its sold...yet you want us to believe it's sold 2 million units since then? Not even close. They're at 4.75 million at best as of today...
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#46 Hitamaru-homia
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Its not it will sell faster,it's jus that sony isn't producing more ps3s. I mean PS3s get sold out every week here. i can say that sony needs to kill there little 10 million goal for june of next year and make it by November. not every ps3 need to be made with love and tinderess pick up the pace.
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#47 jaysin1414
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="jaysin1414"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world wideHihatrider87

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)



Well sucks for 360 owners then.. and think of it this way.

360 in a 2 year period with tons of games and a lower price has sold 10-12 million world wide.
PS3 in 1 year period with lack of games and the highest price has sold 5-6 million world wide.

So a low price + system selling games = Sales

they are selling at the same pace, whIch is only because of 360's horrible performance in Japan. for 18-30 westerngamers, there isn't a better console to own then the 360 IMO. if you only like japanese devs, then i could understand your frustration.

Not true. The 360 is outselling the PS3 by a huge amount in the US. It is also outselling the PS3 in EVERY other region other than Japan.

The PS3 isn't outselling the 360 by enough in Japan to equal the amount that the 360 is outselling the PS3 everywhere else. Not even close...

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#48 Hitamaru-homia
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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"][QUOTE="jaysin1414"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Alright well we can debate here all day.. it will happen. By December 2008 (not exactly that month, but by then) The PS3 will have outsold the 360 world widejaysin1414

Will sell more in the same amount of time on market or will have more units sold to consumers by that time?

Doesn't matter. Either way, you're NUTS! The PS3 has yet to outsell the 360 in the US EVER. It's no longer outselling the 360 anywhere else in the world...other than Japan. Even then, it's not selling enough units in Japan to counter how much ground it's losing everywhere else. The 360 is outselling the PS3 nearly 2:1 in the US, and September - December will be an even larger gap.

The PS3 will catch up the360 18 months after Microsoft launches the 720 (orwhatever the next Xbox will be)



Well sucks for 360 owners then.. and think of it this way.

360 in a 2 year period with tons of games and a lower price has sold 10-12 million world wide.
PS3 in 1 year period with lack of games and the highest price has sold 5-6 million world wide.

So a low price + system selling games = Sales

You're crazy if you think the PS3 has sold 6 million units. During E3 Sony themselves admitted it had just reached 4 million units worldwide (and even, that was greeted with healthy skepticism). Since then, every credible source has commented on how poorly its sold...yet you want us to believe it's sold 2 million units since then? Not even close. They're at 4.75 million at best as of today...

no in Austrailia Jack Trenton confirmed its around 6 million cause he had a chart of all the sony consoles sales,i dont think you was watching the same E3 i was. cause i seen the Sony Conference.

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#49 gigabrowser12
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I'd like to see all consoles with 1 million sales difference, that keeps compition fresh, who agrees?
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#50 gigabrowser12
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Let's just wait untill christmas.

That'l show alot