PS3 will undoubtedly win this gen
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All of the companies got their sales without any of the franchise games coming out, assuming that you don't count the Wii port of Zelda. None of the companies have played their 'big cards' yet.
If anything, Sony is in a worse position for doing so - they've lost more exclusives than any of the other companies, and the longer they wait, the more they lose.
Your paragraph or two explaining how the ps3 will undoubtedly win this gen leaves me in doubt.
Is that an auto fail?
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4 million sold without it's major games is impressive if you ask me. PS3 is getting beat on unfairly I think. And for a $600 system that is not bad in sales. PhoebusFlowsTrue but a lot of it is JUST the Sony name. I mean take Playstation out of this and pretend is just some new console...do you think it would sell four million with no worth while, an opinion obviously, games? Personally I don't see it.
Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Gogeta199
So you're saying Dead Rising was more anticipated than Motorstorm or Resistance? Please. March was supposed to be the month that would catapult the PS3 into serious contention, and they got...Nothing. And what cards has MS played, so far? Gears of War doesn't count as a "card", because it was no more an existing IP than either of the two PS3 games previously mentioned. I'm not saying the PS3 won't sell better; it'd be hard not to, but I don't think that means the PS3 is going to be kicking anyone's @ss any time soon. If we're both being honest, the 360 still probably has the edge in the coming months of this year (especially considering that Assassin's Creed and GTA IV will almost surely sell better for the 360 due to the much larger install base), and if Halo 3 sells as expected and games like Mass Effect and Blue Dragon do well, I think we'll still see a lot of 3rd party devs eagerly cranking out titles for the 360, which will turn the tide even more against Sony.
4 million sold without it's major games is impressive if you ask me. PS3 is getting beat on unfairly I think. And for a $600 system that is not bad in sales. PhoebusFlowsWhen you take into account the BR player, hype and brand loyalty not really, at least not anymore. At the start the sales were very impressive, but now that Sony's marketing can't hide the fact the PS3 isn't much (if at all)better than the 360 and that they have next to nothing game-wise we're seeing just how poorly designed the whole PS3 project was.
If Sony drops the price to $499 or even $450, then it's going to give them a huge sales boost with all the games coming out. They'll have to be very strategic about when they do it though.Timstuff
Sure Microsoft won't drop the price of the 360 to counter. The PS3 is in the worst postion in a price war by being the most expensive and it will always be the most expensive system.
Sigma will be released this month and LAIR next month, in August they will release about 20 games on that month alone. Let's see what the nay-sayers say then.WalterPaladines
Ok, I think you missed the OP's point entirely. What he is saying is that the PS3's sales are amazing for its current situation. The Console is $600 USD and has absolutly none of its big guns or long standing games present yet, and it has already done 4 million units WW, that is pretty damn good if you ask me. It truly shows the power the Playstation brand has generated. What Sony needs to do is tap into that 100 million user fanbase they had last gen by releasing the next gen installments of games PS and PS2 owners have come to love and treasure. A Ninja Gaiden remake (a game that has never been on PS platforms before) and a new IPfrom Factor 5 are not going to reel in the numbers that God of War III, GT5, FFXIII, and MGS4 can, because PS fans have come to appreciate these games on the PS and PS2.
Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Gogeta199
Yeah I totally agree with u. This is what alot of ppl who say the ps3 will fail dont seem to see, that the ps3 even with its very high price tag, and none of the games that were successful titles on the ps1 and ps2 havent even come to play and yet ppl are saying the ps3 is dead already. All sony needs to do is drop the price of the ps3 and bring out a few of there big guns and u will start seeing ps3's fly off the shelves. I know there are still millions of ppl still waiting to get there hands on a ps3, if they werent then the xbox 360 would have already have sold around 20 million consoles by now with the library they have of games. I look for this holiday season for a big turn around from sony and start there march from there vs the competition, and that is when u will see the real battle start.
Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Gogeta199
:lol: not with a 600 price tag
b2. they already have nice try cow
b3. or beacsue sony got cocky....
b4. just like psp?
ill beg you never mad another thread like this again
[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]4 million sold without it's major games is impressive if you ask me. PS3 is getting beat on unfairly I think. And for a $600 system that is not bad in sales. duncanvkTrue but a lot of it is JUST the Sony name. I mean take Playstation out of this and pretend is just some new console...do you think it would sell four million with no worth while, an opinion obviously, games? Personally I don't see it.
if this was true. n64, cube should have won it didnt.
[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]4 million sold without it's major games is impressive if you ask me. PS3 is getting beat on unfairly I think. And for a $600 system that is not bad in sales. pundogWhen you take into account the BR player, hype and brand loyalty not really, at least not anymore. At the start the sales were very impressive, but now that Sony's marketing can't hide the fact the PS3 isn't much (if at all)better than the 360 and that they have next to nothing game-wise we're seeing just how poorly designed the whole PS3 project was.
I am sorry, but MGS4 and FFXIII look much better than anything that is on the 360 or coming to the 360. All the skeptics that are still bagging on the PS3's lack of a power advantage need to take the current situation into consideration. The PS3 has already shown some amazing 1st generation games with Resistance, Motorstorm, VF5 and even theGTHD demo looking amazing for first generation games, on a platform that is significantly harder to develop for than the 360, especially since several fo these games blow the 360's 1st generation games out of the water. MGS4, Uncharted, and FFXIII are going to be the first of Sony's second generation games (FFXIII may even be 3rd gen). With the 360's second gen wraping up this holiday and the PS3's only beginning I think we will see the graphics on the 360 hit the ceiling while the PS3 games just start looking better and better in the future.
My friend just bought a 60gb PS3 plus 2 controllers and Resistance, A basketball game, and another game not sure what it was though, for $500 bucks. Now that's a selling point. The friend he bought it from didn't play his PS3 anymore so that's why he sold it. Now my friend is hardly playing the PS3 he bought, so I'll see if he wants to sell it to me for the same price or lower. This just shows that price is just one of the factors the PS3 is doing so slow. This is waiting.
[QUOTE="Gogeta199"]Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. wavebrid
:lol: not with a 600 price tag
b2. they already have nice try cow
b3. or beacsue sony got cocky....
b4. just like psp?
ill beg you never mad another thread like this again
Actually the PSP has yet to receive a Gran Turismo or God of War game (those are probabaly Sony's biggest 1st party titles). Plus, if you were trying to rag on the PSP's sales, it is actually doing very well right now (beating everything but the Nintendo consoles)and has a very promising future. It definatley has the best handheld game lineupthis year andit is already a very full featured peice of hardware.I think that aslimmer, smaller, redesign with a longer battery lifethisholiday season at $150 couldsend the PSP closer to the DS and Wii in sales (its already outselling everything else).
[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]4 million sold without it's major games is impressive if you ask me. PS3 is getting beat on unfairly I think. And for a $600 system that is not bad in sales. duncanvkTrue but a lot of it is JUST the Sony name. I mean take Playstation out of this and pretend is just some new console...do you think it would sell four million with no worth while, an opinion obviously, games? Personally I don't see it.
Yes, but the pS brand IS there. If they can sell this much on brand alone, what about games + the brand? Or a price drop?
What does MS have besides Halo? GT kills Halo in terms of sales, and then there's MGS and FF left to pick up the pieces. Then when you throw in Tekken, God of War, Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank...well, you get the picture. ;)All of the companies got their sales without any of the franchise games coming out, assuming that you don't count the Wii port of Zelda. None of the companies have played their 'big cards' yet.
If anything, Sony is in a worse position for doing so - they've lost more exclusives than any of the other companies, and the longer they wait, the more they lose.
Planeforger
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="Gogeta199"]Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Devilwillcry
:lol: not with a 600 price tag
b2. they already have nice try cow
b3. or beacsue sony got cocky....
b4. just like psp?
ill beg you never mad another thread like this again
Actually the PSP has yet to receive a Gran Turismo or God of War game (those are probabaly Sony's biggest 1st party titles). Plus, if you were trying to rag on the PSP's sales, it is actually doing very well right now (beating everything but the Nintendo consoles)and has a very promising future. It definatley has the best handheld game lineupthis year andit is already a very full featured peice of hardware.I think that aslimmer, smaller, redesign with a longer battery lifethisholiday season at $150 couldsend the PSP closer to the DS and Wii in sales (its already outselling everything else).
Surprisingly, GoW has been outsold by Socom and J&D, also 1st party. And if we get into 2nd party, it was also beat by R&C.Some of you seem to think gaming consumers are a blind community that will follow the company that gave them their past console forever, without questioning.
The general consumer generally doesn't care if Final Fantasy or Metal Gear is coming for the $600 PS3 (much less titles they never heard about, such as Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, etc.). They may have liked to play them in the PS2, but they know they will get games that will please them just as much on any console - thus judging their new console by it's price and heading for the Wii for innovation or for the 360 for shinier graphics.
One of the main reasons the PS2 sold so well is because it was, in the general consumer's mind, the console of choice. If they wanted a console, they would get the PS2. The Gamecube? Too kiddy. The Xbox? Too hardcore. What sells consoles, more than anything, is public opinion.
Besides, the PS2 owners aren't all sitting patiently, waiting for a price drop on the PS3. If they are waiting for a price drop, they are most likely waiting for a price drop from 360 because, again, in the general public's mind, paying $500 for an entertainment console is almost as outrageous as paying $600 (and I'm implying with this that a $100 price drop would occur, which would wreck Sony gaming's finances).
Mind you that I'm not trying to bash Sony, or the PS3, I'm merely bashing Sony's marketing department.
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[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="Gogeta199"]Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Devilwillcry
:lol: not with a 600 price tag
b2. they already have nice try cow
b3. or beacsue sony got cocky....
b4. just like psp?
ill beg you never mad another thread like this again
Actually the PSP has yet to receive a Gran Turismo or God of War game (those are probabaly Sony's biggest 1st party titles). Plus, if you were trying to rag on the PSP's sales, it is actually doing very well right now (beating everything but the Nintendo consoles)and has a very promising future. It definatley has the best handheld game lineupthis year andit is already a very full featured peice of hardware.I think that aslimmer, smaller, redesign with a longer battery lifethisholiday season at $150 couldsend the PSP closer to the DS and Wii in sales (its already outselling everything else).
again it dosent matter its a flop accdoring to system wars, since cows say it was going to wipe the floor and look what happen.
too bad and outselling everything :? the wii .....
Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Gogeta199
So, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, too human, Two Worlds, Flatout, Elveon,Bioshock, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Ninja Gaiden 2, Alan Wake, Gears of War 2 etc are not big titles for 360 ?
You suggest that apart from Gears and Forza 2 360 gamers want no other games to play of the above ? That is a strange suggestion indeed
Some of you seem to think gaming consumers are a blind community that will follow the company that gave them their past console forever, without questioning.
The general consumer generally doesn't care if Final Fantasy or Metal Gear is coming for the $600 PS3 (much less titles they never heard about, such as Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, etc.). They may have liked to play them in the PS2, but they know they will get games that will please them just as much on any console - thus judging their new console by it's price or heading for the Wii for innovation and for the 360 for shinier graphics.
One of the main reasons the PS2 sold so well is because it was, in the general consumer's mind, the console of choice. If they wanted a console, they would get the PS2. The Gamecube? Too kiddy. The Xbox? Too hardcore. What sells consoles, more than anything, is public opinion.
Besides, the PS2 owners aren't all sitting patiently, waiting for a price drop on the PS3. If they are waiting for a price drop, they are most likely waiting for a price drop from 360 because, again, in the general public's mind, paying $500 for an entertainment console is almost as outrageous as paying $600 (and I'm implying with this that a $100 price drop would occur, which would wreck sony gaming's finances).
Mind you that I'm not trying to bash Sony, or the PS3, I'm merely bashing Sony's marketing department.Rev3nger
Exactly. Great points. I have girl friends who doesn't even play video games but they want the Wii because the Wii is the "IN" thing and the media loves it. Plus with these PS3 ads, sometimes you just wonder wth is Sony thinking.
[QUOTE="Devilwillcry"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="Gogeta199"]Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. makingmusic476
:lol: not with a 600 price tag
b2. they already have nice try cow
b3. or beacsue sony got cocky....
b4. just like psp?
ill beg you never mad another thread like this again
Actually the PSP has yet to receive a Gran Turismo or God of War game (those are probabaly Sony's biggest 1st party titles). Plus, if you were trying to rag on the PSP's sales, it is actually doing very well right now (beating everything but the Nintendo consoles)and has a very promising future. It definatley has the best handheld game lineupthis year andit is already a very full featured peice of hardware.I think that aslimmer, smaller, redesign with a longer battery lifethisholiday season at $150 couldsend the PSP closer to the DS and Wii in sales (its already outselling everything else).
Surprisingly, GoW has been outsold by Socom and J&D, also 1st party. And if we get into 2nd party, it was also beat by R&C.hmm, I did not know that. I have always loved the Ratchet and Jakseries, but I have always felt that it was always outsold by games like GOW. I love em'all either way. I can see SOCOM being more popular. Anybody know how well the first GOW has sold at this point in its life? It has to be around 4mill at this point.
[QUOTE="Devilwillcry"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="Gogeta199"]Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. wavebrid
:lol: not with a 600 price tag
b2. they already have nice try cow
b3. or beacsue sony got cocky....
b4. just like psp?
ill beg you never mad another thread like this again
Actually the PSP has yet to receive a Gran Turismo or God of War game (those are probabaly Sony's biggest 1st party titles). Plus, if you were trying to rag on the PSP's sales, it is actually doing very well right now (beating everything but the Nintendo consoles)and has a very promising future. It definatley has the best handheld game lineupthis year andit is already a very full featured peice of hardware.I think that aslimmer, smaller, redesign with a longer battery lifethisholiday season at $150 couldsend the PSP closer to the DS and Wii in sales (its already outselling everything else).
again it dosent matter its a flop accdoring to system wars, since cows say it was going to wipe the floor and look what happen.
too bad and outselling everything :? the wii .....
I did not say it was outselling the Wii. But it is outselling everything aside from the Ninty machines.
Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Gogeta199er what? Where's SMG, Zelda Wii, SSBB, Metroid? and their new IPs? where's Mass Effect, lost odyssey, etc?
Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Gogeta199Not u again didn't we chase you outta here....Everyone should check the MassEffect thread to see this ban dodgers ownage....
Some of you seem to think gaming consumers are a blind community that will follow the company that gave them their past console forever, without questioning.
The general consumer generally doesn't care if Final Fantasy or Metal Gear is coming for the $600 PS3 (much less titles they never heard about, such as Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, etc.). They may have liked to play them in the PS2, but they know they will get games that will please them just as much on any console - thus judging their new console by it's price and heading for the Wii for innovation or for the 360 for shinier graphics.
One of the main reasons the PS2 sold so well is because it was, in the general consumer's mind, the console of choice. If they wanted a console, they would get the PS2. The Gamecube? Too kiddy. The Xbox? Too hardcore. What sells consoles, more than anything, is public opinion.
Besides, the PS2 owners aren't all sitting patiently, waiting for a price drop on the PS3. If they are waiting for a price drop, they are most likely waiting for a price drop from 360 because, again, in the general public's mind, paying $500 for an entertainment console is almost as outrageous as paying $600 (and I'm implying with this that a $100 price drop would occur, which would wreck Sony gaming's finances).
Mind you that I'm not trying to bash Sony, or the PS3, I'm merely bashing Sony's marketing department.
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Rev3nger
I agree with alot of what your saying but the difference is, sony brang alot more known franchises with the ps1 and ps2, then microsoft did with the xbox. Even though alot of your statements are good points, fact is, sony brang tons of great games into the industry that appealed to a wider audience, then microsoft did. And to prove my point, whats microsofts strengths? Online right, and even with the 6 million users they have online, that still aint gonna come close to those consumers who dont care about online gaming and to prove my point with that, look at the wii, its about to pass up microsoft and its only been out for almost 7 months. This proves that more ppl rather buy a system that they grew up loving and franchise games is a big part of that, which is why I see sony and nintendo doing the best in these areas because of the strong franchise games they have, and there both not forcing there consumers to play online, they make games that they know there consumers will love no matter if it is online or not, thats the big difference between them. Yes they have online features but like I said, there looking at a wider audience then just online gamers.
Note, do remember, there are alot of ppl who cant afford online and tons of younger kids who prolly will never see online until they get older and almost every nephew and niece I have love video games, so clearly that is an audience microsoft will never have an impact on. Wii has that audience on locked but sony also has tons of games for even that age group, this is the big difference between MS and Sony is, sony looks to make games for every type gamer out there where MS is strictly focusing on online as the key to success. Maybe in 5 years that will be where most of the interest of gaming will follow but right now, there are millions of more ppl who couldnt care less about online then ppl who do care about online, and thats the audience sony and nintendo are trying to get, and so far nintendo has started out stealing alot of that audience. I look for sony to pick up alot of that croud when the holiday season comes, and then u will see this war really has begun when nintendo and sony and microsoft has unleashed some of there big guns.
I think the PS3 has the ability to take a big chunk of the PS2 userbase once the system is way cheaper.7thSINMany will have since moved on to one of the other consoles which will hit that "much cheaper" pricetag a couple years before the PS3 gets there. It'll probably be late 2009 at the earliest for the PS3 to hit "mainstream" adoption pricepoint.
Think about it, PS3 sold almost 4 million systems without any of its franchise games released. Simply put, it hasn't played any of its major cards yet. When these franchises are released, the people who bought ps2 will go to ps3. I'm not saying all of them will convert to ps3, but the majority of them will. All those people will not turn their backs on their favorite franchises just to save 100-200 dollars. 360 and Wii has played some of its major cards already. 360 has releasedGears, Dead Rising, Forza 2, and other games xbox fans wanted to play. Wii has Zelda. PS3 hasn't released any of its big games yet. Sure Resistance and Motorstorm is good, but they came out of nowhere and aren't anticipated games like Sonys finest franchises. I'll look back on these days when everyone thought PS3 was going to fail. These people don't realize that PS3 isn't selling the best it could because Sony still hasn't played any of their major cards. When Sony releases these games, they will win. I beg any PS3 hater to quote me on this. Please quote me. Gogeta199
Reality called. It said STFU.
http://www.nexgenwars.com/
think about it, the cows claim 100 million ps2 users...
where are they now.
the ps3 is dead this gen.
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