PS3 will win in both sales and games by the end of this gen. (2012-2013?)

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#1 gtawoof
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I honestly think it'll happen. The Wii will continue to sell at a high pace right now, for about a year longer depending on what they have in store at E3 maybe 2.

By that time I see PS3's price becoming 300$ or less, which will fuel many PS2 owners that havent gotten a next-gen system to get one now. I also see PS3 having the best exclusives by then. I predict Wii will have trouble with 3rd party support this entire gen, it wont get better and they'll have to rely on 1st party games the entire time. I doubt you'll see another Mario, we'll see another Zelda, and maybe Starfox and Donkey Kong, the rest are niche games.

PS3's 3rd party support for exclusives will grow more and more, due to the amount of people who own the system rising as the price lowers and more games arrive. I also think Sony will start paying for exclusives more and more as of now if they havent already.

Now you could say but the Wii and 360 will also have a price drop by the time PS3 comes out. With the Wii, I think whoever wants one, will get one within the next year or so, or already has one. After that I just dont see the Wii lasting, technology-wise.

As for the 360, by the time 360 has a price drop, PS3 will be the big name. I feel like the PS3 is just getting started in 2008, Sony has only shown very few games compared to whats expected to release on the platform (When you think about it MGS4 is only 1 heavy hitter PS3 has released, in a swarm of many to come). All of 360's heavy hitters have come out (i know this is an old argument let me continue). Lately all i've seen from Microsoft is the buying of a bunch of RPG's. The way Microsoft is doing things are the spend spend spend way. They kept thinking of now and not the future. The 360 launched with overhyped mediocre stuff while people waited for the big guns in 07'. The big guns were released (literally since almost all were shooters) and now Microsoft is realizing you need more then shooters to win this race, so now they're buying up all the RPG's ...ok and if that doesnt work? Buy up all the strategy games?. It doesnt work like that, Sony is the most well rounded company reputation and game-wise imo. All of their previous consoles has had the widest variety and I think the same will happen this gen.

I'd list games/franchises expected to release exclusively on PS3, but I dont want to make this long post an already longer one. Oh and *Flameshield up*.

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Well.... all i can say is. I dont agree with your opinion.
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I firmly believe the Wii will remain on top in sales, followed eventually by the PS3 and then the 360.
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CNET shares your opinion
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#5 Flamingo121
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I honestly don't think so. I mean, the PS3 is pretty far behind, it's sales would really have to jump for it to surpass the Wii. But I fully agree with the Wii currently having weak third-party support (who knows about the future) and the PS3 having good exclusives. (Metal Gear Solid 4 pwns by the way ) but we'll see. I do think the PS3's sales will improve greatly though, and I think it stands a good chance of surpassing the PS3, but there are just too many people buying the Wii. (lord knows why. aside from a few steller titles, that I myself love, (Twilight, Mario, Metroid, No More Heroes) the games on display are pathetic) whatver. i'm going to sleep lol.

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I think it will be close on sales with the Wii

but games?

I dont think the ps3 can catch up on the games of the 360

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#8 ClawKiller
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Well, MS haveo nly seemed to have ended one big franchise with Halo 3, and have lots of other franchises just starting up or continunig, like the Gears Trilogy and Mass Effect Trilogy. Part of your argument is invalid.
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I honestly think it'll happen. The Wii will continue to sell at a high pace right now, for about a year longer depending on what they have in store at E3 maybe 2.

Based on what? The same was said in its launh. "it will only sell that good on chrismas", "it will only sell that good for 6 months", "it won't be selling at that rate more than a year".

By that time I see PS3's price becoming 300$ or less, which will fuel many PS2 owners that havent gotten a next-gen system to get one now. I also see PS3 having the best exclusives by then. I predict Wii will have trouble with 3rd party support this entire gen, it wont get better and they'll have to rely on 1st party games the entire time. I doubt you'll see another Mario, we'll see another Zelda, and maybe Starfox and Donkey Kong, the rest are niche games.

About the 3tn party support... the same was said about the DS, an dyou see now. We have no prove that the PS3 will have the best exclusives. Almost every great game is coming multiplat, and MS has already some great exclusives.

PS3's 3rd party support for exclusives will grow more and more, due to the amount of people who own the system rising as the price lowers and more games arrive. I also think Sony will start paying for exclusives more and more as of now if they havent already.

Speculation.

Now you could say but the Wii and 360 will also have a price drop by the time PS3 comes out. With the Wii, I think whoever wants one, will get one within the next year or so, or already has one. After that I just dont see the Wii lasting, technology-wise.

The same could have be said about the DS, and it is still the most sold console every month.

As for the 360, by the time 360 has a price drop, PS3 will be the big name. I feel like the PS3 is just getting started in 2008, Sony has only shown very few games compared to whats expected to release on the platform (When you think about it MGS4 is only 1 heavy hitter PS3 has released, in a swarm of many to come). All of 360's heavy hitters have come out (i know this is an old argument let me continue). Lately all i've seen from Microsoft is the buying of a bunch of RPG's. The way Microsoft is doing things are the spend spend spend way. They kept thinking of now and not the future. The 360 launched with overhyped mediocre stuff while people waited for the big guns in 07'. The big guns were released (literally since almost all were shooters) and now Microsoft is realizing you need more then shooters to win this race, so now they're buying up all the RPG's ...ok and if that doesnt work? Buy up all the strategy games?. It doesnt work like that, Sony is the most well rounded company reputation and game-wise imo. All of their previous consoles has had the widest variety and I think the same will happen this gen.

You ask "what if it doesn work?" for Microsoft, but I ask, "what if it doesn't work for Sony"?

I'd list games/franchises expected to release exclusively on PS3, but I dont want to make this long post an already longer one. Oh and *Flameshield up*.

There are also some very good for both 360 and Wii.

You tried to sound objective, but in the very end was another pseudo-analist fanboy post. A shake of some facts, a lot of speculation, and even more wishful thoughts. I'm not sayin' the PS3 won't win, I'm saying that nothing seems to indicate that.

Yes, the PS3 will become stronger, but that doesn't mean that the 360 or the Wii won't.

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This really all depends of a lot of "ifs". The 360 doesn't show you games, two to three years in advance. (except for Allen Wake.) By the time 2012 and 2013 come around the XBOX will have it's new system out. Also if what Microsoft says is to be believed the new Jasper chip will solve the RROD, which imo, is what is holding 360 sales back.
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#11 dabear
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CNET shares your opinionRotaryRX7

No it doesn't. CNet believes the Wii will win, followed by the 360, then the PS3. You are confusing CNet's editorial vs the article about what DFC Intelligence predicted.

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Wait so this is like thinking once the 4th qtr in a football game is over and you technically lose......your team stays on the field to try to score another touchdown when they should just prepare for the next game?

If you think they'll start winning this war in 2012-2013 that's kind of funny.....won't the next Nintendo and Xbox be out by then? So if they win it's because the other companies have moved on to the next gen. In other words.....you win by default because the compeition is no longer on the field?

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#13 colmusterd28
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Call me bold, but at this point I don't thing it can win at games... The 360 goes toe to toe in all 3rd party support at this point and quite frankly, 360 exclusives are well, better than ps3 (opinion I know) not to mention the massive JRPG support 360 is now getting... once you get past GT5, MGS4 and FF13 you have what? I'd take a Forza 3, Spinter Cell and Mass Effect 2 to that stack anyday...

As far as sales... who knows? I know a couple things though... wii sells great (mission accomplished) 360 planted itself as a legitimate contender for the xbox brand and is currantly ahead of a console that had 100+ million install base last gen. (mission accomplished) PS3 has struggled, lost massive market share to both competition and has consistantly let down users with half implemented online service ,all be it free and lackluster exclusive games... (mission failed)

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My crystal ball dissagrees.

If you are going to speculate you should at least have a little bit of something to base it on.

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Wait so this is like thinking once the 4th qtr in a football game is over and you technically lose......your team stays on the field to try to score another touchdown when they should just prepare for the next game?

If you think they'll start winning this war in 2012-2013 that's kind of funny.....won't the next Nintendo and Xbox be out by then? So if they win it's because the other companies have moved on to the next gen. In other words.....you win by default because the compeition is no longer on the field?

darthogre
Interesting point... I don't know whether or not the PS3 will over take the 360 in sales. What I do know is that it won't happen in 08, regardless of how many sony Fanboys post that in SW....
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Call me bold, but at this point I don't thing it can win at games... The 360 goes toe to toe in all 3rd party support at this point and quite frankly, 360 exclusives are well, better than ps3 (opinion I know) not to mention the massive JRPG support 360 is now getting... once you get past GT5, MGS4 and FF13 you have what? I'd take a Forza 3, Spinter Cell and Mass Effect 2 to that stack anyday...

As far as sales... who knows? I know a couple things though... wii sells great (mission accomplished) 360 planted itself as a legitimate contender for the xbox brand and is currantly ahead of a console that had 100+ million install base last gen. (mission accomplished) PS3 has struggled, lost massive market share to both competition and has consistantly let down users with half implemented online service ,all be it free and lackluster exclusive games... (mission failed)

colmusterd28

You honestly would take Splinter Cell over MGS?

The original ME wasn't even AAA but you would take the sequal over FF13....based off what exactly? It being an Xbox exclusive?

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Based on what? The same was said in its launh. "it will only sell that good on chrismas", "it will only sell that good for 6 months", "it won't be selling at that rate more than a year".

About the 3tn party support... the same was said about the DS, an dyou see now. We have no prove that the PS3 will have the best exclusives. Almost every great game is coming multiplat, and MS has already some great exclusives.

Speculation.

The same could have be said about the DS, and it is still the most sold console every month.

You ask "what if it doesn work?" for Microsoft, but I ask, "what if it doesn't work for Sony"?

There are also some very good for both 360 and Wii.

You tried to sound objective, but in the very end was another pseudo-analist fanboy post. A shake of some facts, a lot of speculation, and even more wishful thoughts. I'm not sayin' the PS3 won't win, I'm saying that nothing seems to indicate that.

Yes, the PS3 will become stronger, but that doesn't mean that the 360 or the Wii won't.
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^It was all my opinion, i didnt mean to sound like it was fact, my bad if it came across that way. I'll answer 1 by 1 though at your comments.

1. I dont consider DS a console, or in the race with 360/Wii/PS3, at all.

2. You're right that many people have said the Wii will only sell for this long or that long, but I wasnt one of them, because I knew they had another Zelda to be released, more 1st party titles etc. But as of now, I dont know what other 1st party titles other then Zelda, Starfox, or Donkey Kong, can release within the next 2 years ...ones that are huge games for the company, and not niche titles from SNES or random ones that have a bunch of Mii models as main characters.

3. As for strategies working for Sony/Microsoft, how can Sony's strategy NOT work? Blu Ray is supposedly being adapted at a faster rate then DVD was at its time. Many games have yet to be shown. Games will become much more progressive as the years go on, and Microsoft still has a group of people without a hardrive, Microsoft will have to make games hardrive-manditory if they expect to get the same quality as a game like MGS4, and doing that will cut out all the arcade users, potentially making them angry enough to buy a PS3.

4. As for the "almost every great game coming is multiplat" i'm mad you're making me do this but ok:

These are whats expected to come out and be exclusive, i'm not saying they will be, but as of now i'd imagine they would be:

Socom: Confrontation
Little Big Planet
Motorstorm 2
Resistance 2
The Agency
Killzone 2
Gran Turismo 5
Afrika
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Final Fantasy XIII
Heavy Rain (from the people who made Indigo Prophecy, this is my 2nd most anticipated game)
Infamous
L.A. Noire (Produced by Rockstar, a 40s sandbox Detective thriller in Los Angeles, this is instant win since im a huge fan of Noir films)
God of War 3
Untitled Rockstar PS3 Exclusive
Tekken 6
Team ICO Project (play Shadow of the Collosus if anybody doubts/doesnt know about Team ICO)
PS3 Twisted Metal
Socom 4

I'd like someone to correct me right now if i'm wrong, but here's what I know about 360 + Wii's upcoming games:

360
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1. Splinter Cell: Conviction
2. Alan Wake (also on PC which i'll be getting it on)
3. Gears of War 2
4. A bunch of RPG's
5. The rest of the Mass Effect trilogy (also will go on PC most likely)


Wii
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1. New Zelda
2. Potentially a new Star Fox and/or Donkey Kong
3. More casual stuff
4. I predict some kind of expansions for WiiFit or something.
5. Niche games with weird names that nobodys ever heard of/cares about.

Also to the guy who said they'll start winning at 2012, i didnt say that, i said when 2012-2013 hits, PS3 will have won.

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

Call me bold, but at this point I don't thing it can win at games... The 360 goes toe to toe in all 3rd party support at this point and quite frankly, 360 exclusives are well, better than ps3 (opinion I know) not to mention the massive JRPG support 360 is now getting... once you get past GT5, MGS4 and FF13 you have what? I'd take a Forza 3, Spinter Cell and Mass Effect 2 to that stack anyday...

As far as sales... who knows? I know a couple things though... wii sells great (mission accomplished) 360 planted itself as a legitimate contender for the xbox brand and is currantly ahead of a console that had 100+ million install base last gen. (mission accomplished) PS3 has struggled, lost massive market share to both competition and has consistantly let down users with half implemented online service ,all be it free and lackluster exclusive games... (mission failed)

darthogre

You honestly would take Splinter Cell over MGS?

The original ME wasn't even AAA but you would take the sequal over FF13....based off what exactly? It being an Xbox exclusive?

Nope, no one is saying that MGS is worst than Splinter Cell, we are just saying we also have a very good stealth game.

The original ME is a AAA (gamerankings) just like Uncharted is. Which will be better, ME 2 or FF13, no one knows.

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

Call me bold, but at this point I don't thing it can win at games... The 360 goes toe to toe in all 3rd party support at this point and quite frankly, 360 exclusives are well, better than ps3 (opinion I know) not to mention the massive JRPG support 360 is now getting... once you get past GT5, MGS4 and FF13 you have what? I'd take a Forza 3, Spinter Cell and Mass Effect 2 to that stack anyday...

As far as sales... who knows? I know a couple things though... wii sells great (mission accomplished) 360 planted itself as a legitimate contender for the xbox brand and is currantly ahead of a console that had 100+ million install base last gen. (mission accomplished) PS3 has struggled, lost massive market share to both competition and has consistantly let down users with half implemented online service ,all be it free and lackluster exclusive games... (mission failed)

darthogre

You honestly would take Splinter Cell over MGS?

The original ME wasn't even AAA but you would take the sequal over FF13....based off what exactly? It being an Xbox exclusive?

Yes, I would absolutly take Mass Effect 2 over FF13... based off, well for one, story alone was outstanding, It was also the most replayable rpgs ever made. It was a blast from front to back. By the way, don't play it up like the FF series has been this unstopable AAA force for the pasat few years. Its been good, not great.

The bigger point, which unfortuanatly you missed, is that even with heavy hitters starting to trickle out for ps3, the 360 has just as many bullets left as well...

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Not all of Xbox's Best Games are out yet: Gears of War II, HALO Wars, and the Force Unleashed are due out for the holidays.

In terms of Microsoft buying up RPG licences, I have to ask why isn't Sony doing the same after all wasn't it RPGs that put the original Playstation on the map so where are the PS3's RPGs like Final Fantasy, Arcadia, and Kingdom Hearts Games? These weren't fly by night games, they were the Playstation's Killer Apps, so where are the PS3 versons?

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I dont think the PS3 will pass the wii but i do think it will pass the 360
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Nope, no one is saying that MGS is worst than Splinter Cell, we are just saying we also have a very good stealth game.

The original ME is a AAA (gamerankings) just like Uncharted is. Which will be better, ME 2 or FF13, no one knows.

IronBass

But ahhhh, he said Xbox has better exclusives (in his opinion) and listed those three. How is that not saying MGS is worse than Splinter Cell? How is that not saying FF13 is worse than ME? I won't even go to the GT5 comment, based on previous I'm not sure why he think that would be worse than Forza 3.

So we are using gamerankings.....well why not metacritics then? How about we use IGN? My point is here on this forum it's not a AAA game, like Uncharted. The moment we start using different sites it throws out all the rules of system wars. ME was a great game but I'd choose the FF series over it in a heart beat. My problem with his post is the opinion of X360 exclusives being better was based on the very fact they are exclusive to X360. Nothing more.

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well ps3 better start picking up sales in order for it to outsell the Wii. I dont believe there has been a single month yet where the ps3 has outsold the wii world-wide.
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Not all of Xbox's Best Games are out yet: Gears of War II, HALO Wars, and the Force Unleashed are due out for the holidays.

In terms of Microsoft buying up RPG licences, I have to ask why isn't Sony doing the same after all wasn't it RPGs that put the original Playstation on the map so where are the PS3's RPGs like Final Fantasy, Arcadia, and Kingdom Hearts Games? These weren't fly by night games, they were the Playstation's Killer Apps, so where are the PS3 versons?

snakes3425

Why would Force Unleashed be a plus for X360? you realise it's even coming out on the PS2 right....not to mention Wii, PS3, and handhelds.

Who says Sony isn't buy RPG licences.......you really think Sony didn't pay anything for the FF game? Who knows if Sony is trying to buy the KH3 game. All I know is Sony seems to be buying exclusives from 3rd parties......they are just delayed as usual (like MGS4 was delayed for almost a year).

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well ps3 better start picking up sales in order for it to outsell the Wii. I dont believe there has been a single month yet where the ps3 has outsold the wii world-wide. ogvampire

There is a slight chance that it will happen this month, because of MGS4. Although I have been seeing PS3s sitting on store shelves where I live but that could be an isolated incedent.

Even if it does I doubt that it will outsell the wii next month.

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That's not what you think will happen, that is what you really hope will happen, for some unfathomable reason.
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]well ps3 better start picking up sales in order for it to outsell the Wii. I dont believe there has been a single month yet where the ps3 has outsold the wii world-wide. laughingman42

There is a slight chance that it will happen this month, because of MGS4. Although I have been seeing PS3s sitting on store shelves where I live but that could be an isolated incedent.

Even if it does I doubt that it will outsell the wii next month.

yeah, Europe is getting SSBB soon, that should boost Wii sales once more

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Why would the Wii stop selling? There's no reason for it.

Think about why the Wii is selling. Is it because it's technologically current? No. Is it because it has the best games? No. It's because it's easy to use and accessible, and it has a lot of hype around it.

So why would a shortfall in games cause it to stop selling, when it was selling out before with nothing more than Zelda to its name? Why would it being behind the times in terms of tech cause problems, when it was never current?

The Wii is going to sell, and sell, and keep selling, and at the end of the generation, it'll be number one in sales, whatever the game situation is.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Based on what? The same was said in its launh. "it will only sell that good on chrismas", "it will only sell that good for 6 months", "it won't be selling at that rate more than a year".

About the 3tn party support... the same was said about the DS, an dyou see now. We have no prove that the PS3 will have the best exclusives. Almost every great game is coming multiplat, and MS has already some great exclusives.

Speculation.

The same could have be said about the DS, and it is still the most sold console every month.

You ask "what if it doesn work?" for Microsoft, but I ask, "what if it doesn't work for Sony"?

There are also some very good for both 360 and Wii.

You tried to sound objective, but in the very end was another pseudo-analist fanboy post. A shake of some facts, a lot of speculation, and even more wishful thoughts. I'm not sayin' the PS3 won't win, I'm saying that nothing seems to indicate that.

Yes, the PS3 will become stronger, but that doesn't mean that the 360 or the Wii won't.
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^It was all my opinion, i didnt mean to sound like it was fact, my bad if it came across that way. I'll answer 1 by 1 though at your comments.

1. I dont consider DS a console, or in the race with 360/Wii/PS3, at all.

Neither do I, I just used it as an example why not necessary all the people who want a Wii have already got it.

2. You're right that many people have said the Wii will only sell for this long or that long, but I wasnt one of them, because I knew they had another Zelda to be released, more 1st party titles etc. But as of now, I dont know what other 1st party titles other then Zelda, Starfox, or Donkey Kong, can release within the next 2 years ...ones that are huge games for the company, and not niche titles from SNES or random ones that have a bunch of Mii models as main characters.

Well, more first party games for sure. Enough to make it fans happy.

3. As for strategies working for Sony/Microsoft, how can Sony's strategy NOT work? Blu Ray is supposedly being adapted at a faster rate then DVD was at its time. Many games have yet to be shown. Games will become much more progressive as the years go on, and Microsoft still has a group of people without a hardrive, Microsoft will have to make games hardrive-manditory if they expect to get the same quality as a game like MGS4, and doing that will cut out all the arcade users, potentially making them angry enough to buy a PS3.

Actually, there are so many people saying that the Blue ray isn't addapting that good as people saying it is. Will Blue-Ray work for Sony? No one knows. The betamax and the UMD didn't.

4. As for the "almost every great game coming is multiplat" i'm mad you're making me do this but ok:

These are whats expected to come out and be exclusive, i'm not saying they will be, but as of now i'd imagine they would be:

Socom: Confrontation
Little Big Planet
Motorstorm 2
Resistance 2
The Agency
Killzone 2
Gran Turismo 5
Afrika
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Final Fantasy XIII
Heavy Rain (from the people who made Indigo Prophecy, this is my 2nd most anticipated game)
Infamous
L.A. Noire (Produced by Rockstar, a 40s sandbox Detective thriller in Los Angeles, this is instant win since im a huge fan of Noir films)
God of War 3
Untitled Rockstar PS3 Exclusive
Tekken 6
Team ICO Project (play Shadow of the Collosus if anybody doubts/doesnt know about Team ICO)
PS3 Twisted Metal
Socom 4

Nice list, I've never said the PS3 isn't getting good games. I'd add White Knight Story, of Level 5.

360
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What I'm expecting:

Gears 2, Banjo, Halo Wars, The Last Remnant (timed exclusive), Infinite Undescover, Star Ocean, Fable 2, Too Human, Forza 3 (later), and Mass Effect 2/3, Splinter Cell Conviction, Next Bungie project and more, and tons of great multiplats like RE5, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Enough to have every 360 owner happy and to call new public. Add to that some excellent games that already ame out (you know, Halo 3, Gears, ME etc).

Yeah, there are good games coming for the PS3, but the 360 has also enough of them.



Wii
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1. New Zelda
2. Potentially a new Star Fox and/or Donkey Kong
3. More casual stuff
4. I predict some kind of expansions for WiiFit or something.
5. Niche games with weird names that nobodys ever heard of/cares about.

Also to the guy who said they'll start winning at 2012, i didnt say that, i said when 2012-2013 hits, PS3 will have won.

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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]well ps3 better start picking up sales in order for it to outsell the Wii. I dont believe there has been a single month yet where the ps3 has outsold the wii world-wide. laughingman42

There is a slight chance that it will happen this month, because of MGS4. Although I have been seeing PS3s sitting on store shelves where I live but that could be an isolated incedent.

Even if it does I doubt that it will outsell the wii next month.

Yeah it's the same where I live, although the MSG4 bundles are all gone.

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I disagree for many reasons.

1- The Wii is jumping out ahead and could be at like what 40 million plus by the end of the year. So if it sells at that rate next year it is at 60 million, while PS3 is barely over 25.....It won't catch up

2- The 360 is ahead of it for this year and sells far more software. No way third parties start making exclusives for PS3. There are barely any now outside of FF 13 and MGS 4.

3- PC has a huge amount of exclusives. No way it ever catches up to that number>

4- The xbox 360 has games on the way as well. Microsoft is more agressive with spending money for exclusives as well.

If anything PS3 might beat 360 in sales thats it. In games it can barely beat the Wii in a year it has MGS 4. And the rest of 08 seems to favor 360 and PC more than PS3 again.

Oh and big guns are gone?

Banjo is not a shooter

Neither is Viva Pinata 2

neither is Fable 2

And neither was Bioshock, Mass Effect, Forza 2, PGR 4, Dead Rising, Saints Row(many of the 360s exclusives from 06 and 07)

I mean your entire post was full of so much ignorance....

It isn't like the Wii is going to just stop selling.

It isn't like Microsoft will suddenly stop getting exclusives for its consoles

It isn't like the PC will suddenly suck.

IF everything needs to be a killer app to matter.

PS3 only has 3 on the way.

GT 5, FF 13, and God of War 3.

Little Big Planet has potential.

So what else

Resistance 2, Tekken 6, WHite Knight aren't killer apps. Sure to sell 1 million but so is the next Forza and Fable, but those obviousaly by your logic aren't killer apps.
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The PS3 has been getting jolly-stomped by the Wii for 2 years now... non-stop. You can hold up the magic shield of "it's my opinion!" if you want, but I for one would want to see some small sign somewhere at some point that the PS3 could stop getting it's arse kicked monthly, let alone break even, let alone take the LEAD, let alone close the gap with the Wii, and finally, let alone actually win this gen, before I would make such a bold prediction public.

If a baseball team had beaten another 100 times in a row, and it was never even close, would you actually honestly think that the losing team would break the streak? You might hope it in your little heart, you might bet on it because of the potential for a long-odds payoff, but would you actually believe it? Would you bet on it if the odds were 2-1?

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#33 thegame1980
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Well.... all i can say is. I dont agree with your opinion.angelkimne

Couldn't have said it better.

I think this guy is REALLY looking deep into his magic 8 ball, but I don't foresee any of this coming to light.

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hahahaha cows still in denial
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It would take well over 5 years for the PS3 to catch up to the Wii in sales and that's with the PS3 outselling the Wii by 50k every week. Considering it's still being outsold by the Wii and the Wii has a price cut in it's future, there is about a 0% chance the PS3 will ever catch the Wii in sales.
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In gameinformer they said that the new xbox and nintendo system were do out by 2010 while the the ps3 would last 'til 2012. So ya, ps3 could outsell those, after the new systems come out.
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In gameinformer they said that the new xbox and nintendo system were do out by 2010 while the the ps3 would last 'til 2012. So ya, ps3 could outsell those, after the new systems come out.Headshot27

in 2 years? that doesnt sound believable to me

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Based on what? The same was said in its launh. "it will only sell that good on chrismas", "it will only sell that good for 6 months", "it won't be selling at that rate more than a year".

About the 3tn party support... the same was said about the DS, an dyou see now. We have no prove that the PS3 will have the best exclusives. Almost every great game is coming multiplat, and MS has already some great exclusives.

Speculation.

The same could have be said about the DS, and it is still the most sold console every month.

You ask "what if it doesn work?" for Microsoft, but I ask, "what if it doesn't work for Sony"?

There are also some very good for both 360 and Wii.

You tried to sound objective, but in the very end was another pseudo-analist fanboy post. A shake of some facts, a lot of speculation, and even more wishful thoughts. I'm not sayin' the PS3 won't win, I'm saying that nothing seems to indicate that.

Yes, the PS3 will become stronger, but that doesn't mean that the 360 or the Wii won't.
shadyd1717

^It was all my opinion, i didnt mean to sound like it was fact, my bad if it came across that way. I'll answer 1 by 1 though at your comments.

1. I dont consider DS a console, or in the race with 360/Wii/PS3, at all.

2. You're right that many people have said the Wii will only sell for this long or that long, but I wasnt one of them, because I knew they had another Zelda to be released, more 1st party titles etc. But as of now, I dont know what other 1st party titles other then Zelda, Starfox, or Donkey Kong, can release within the next 2 years ...ones that are huge games for the company, and not niche titles from SNES or random ones that have a bunch of Mii models as main characters.

3. As for strategies working for Sony/Microsoft, how can Sony's strategy NOT work? Blu Ray is supposedly being adapted at a faster rate then DVD was at its time. Many games have yet to be shown. Games will become much more progressive as the years go on, and Microsoft still has a group of people without a hardrive, Microsoft will have to make games hardrive-manditory if they expect to get the same quality as a game like MGS4, and doing that will cut out all the arcade users, potentially making them angry enough to buy a PS3.

4. As for the "almost every great game coming is multiplat" i'm mad you're making me do this but ok:

These are whats expected to come out and be exclusive, i'm not saying they will be, but as of now i'd imagine they would be:

Socom: Confrontation
Little Big Planet
Motorstorm 2
Resistance 2
The Agency
Killzone 2
Gran Turismo 5
Afrika
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Final Fantasy XIII
Heavy Rain (from the people who made Indigo Prophecy, this is my 2nd most anticipated game)
Infamous
L.A. Noire (Produced by Rockstar, a 40s sandbox Detective thriller in Los Angeles, this is instant win since im a huge fan of Noir films)
God of War 3
Untitled Rockstar PS3 Exclusive
Tekken 6
Team ICO Project (play Shadow of the Collosus if anybody doubts/doesnt know about Team ICO)
PS3 Twisted Metal
Socom 4

I'd like someone to correct me right now if i'm wrong, but here's what I know about 360 + Wii's upcoming games:

360
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1. Splinter Cell: Conviction
2. Alan Wake (also on PC which i'll be getting it on)
3. Gears of War 2
4. A bunch of RPG's
5. The rest of the Mass Effect trilogy (also will go on PC most likely)


Wii
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1. New Zelda
2. Potentially a new Star Fox and/or Donkey Kong
3. More casual stuff
4. I predict some kind of expansions for WiiFit or something.
5. Niche games with weird names that nobodys ever heard of/cares about.

Also to the guy who said they'll start winning at 2012, i didnt say that, i said when 2012-2013 hits, PS3 will have won.

The wii has a few games coming out.

We love golf, Mario super sluggers, Harvest moon: tree of tranquility, De blob, Simcity creator, Wario land: shake it, Rygar: the battle of argus, My sims kingdom, Mega man 9, Sadness, The conduit, Coraline, Madworld, 100 bullets, Disaster: day of crisis, Untittled factor 5 project, Untittled Zelda project, Spyborgs, Tecmo Bowl: kick off, Untittled Silicon knights psychological thriller project, Tales of symphonia: dawn of the new world, Fragile, Blast works, Gyrostarr, Legend of sayuki, Monster hunter 3, Harvest moon magical melody, Deadly creatures, Wii music orchestra, Project H.A.M.M.E.R., Sword of legendia, Oboro muramasa youtoden, A new beginning, Stongbad's cool game for attractive people and Arc rise fantasia.