PS3 won't outsell the 360 or Wii again in November

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#1 Firelore29
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Everyone is claiming that this price drop is going to fix all of Sony's problems. Sony themselves have bosted that sales increased 192% since the price drop. Lets work the numbers here:

October NPD

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3 - 184k

Now you have to understand that to begin with you always have a big spike in sales in November.But just for the sake of argument lets just assume the sales numbers stay exactly the same except the PS3's increasednumbers:

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3- 354k

The PS3is doomed for the remainder of 2007 and at least a few months into 2008.

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#2 ChinoJamesKeene
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lol ok.
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#3 Eponique
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Wii will sell over a million in November, quote me :D
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#4 revolution2k6
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wow that was scientific :roll: face it ps3 is doing a lil better, stop being a fanboy and except it instead of bringing it down over and over.

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#5 Eponique
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wow that was scientific :roll: face it ps3 is doing a lil better, stop being a fanboy and except it instead of bringing it down over and over.

revolution2k6

Sony said PS3 sales increased 192%. So it's plausible.

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#6 ball_of_air
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Oh noez!!!1! The PS3 will sell almost 500k in November, it's sooooooooo doomed.:roll:
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#7 kingfire11
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just waits for the NPD numbers, but I think it will sell better this month at least.
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#8 topps
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Everyone is claiming that this price drop is going to fix all of Sony's problems. Sony themselves have bosted that sales increased 192% since the price drop. Lets work the numbers here:

October NPD

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3 - 184k

Now you have to understand that to begin with you always have a big spike in sales in November.But just for the sake of argument lets just assume the sales numbers stay exactly the same except the PS3's increasednumbers:

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3- 354k

The PS3is doomed for the remainder of 2007 and at least a few months into 2008.

Firelore29

eventhough i don't think the ps3 will beat the 360 or the Wii you gotta redo your math. you just calcuated the increase but didn't add it to the base amount. so its 354 + 184. 100% increase is double, 192% is almost triple. That's a little more than 500k, I think last year xbox 360 sold that amount in nov. The Wii's biggest problem is they can't make enough. They won't sell a million if they can't make a million consoles.

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I agree the PS3 was not even able to sell more then the 360 last Nov according to NPD and the PS3 launched then. So why would the PS3 sell more now when the 360 still has the best game libary.

I am sure some will say price cut but you have to remember the PS3 is still the most expensive console out.

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#10 bigLLL
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not in America but ps3 will have another massive boom with white knight story in japanand will outsell the 360 world wide for the rest of the year.
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#11 Shadow2k6
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I agree the PS3 was not even able to sell more then the 360 last Nov according to NPD and the PS3 launched then. So why would the PS3 sell more now when the 360 still has the best game libary.

I am sure some will say price cut but you have to remember the PS3 is still the most expensive console out.

Eltroz

Maybe because when the PS3 launched last year it was towards the end of the month and the 360 was out since 2005 so it had that whole month to come up with sales while PS3 only had a percentage of that month to come up with sales.

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#12 aldarrak
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I came from the future:

November:

NDS 1.3M
Wii 1.3M
360 900K
PSP 700K
PS2 450K
PS3 400K

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#13 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

I agree the PS3 was not even able to sell more then the 360 last Nov according to NPD and the PS3 launched then. So why would the PS3 sell more now when the 360 still has the best game libary.

I am sure some will say price cut but you have to remember the PS3 is still the most expensive console out.

Shadow2k6

Maybe because when the PS3 launched last year it was towards the end of the month and the 360 was out since 2005 so it had that whole month to come up with sales while PS3 only had a percentage of that month to come up with sales.

Ok you do not like Nov even though the PS3 had a launch on that month and launches are supposed to be huge selles. How about the month after in Dec. In Dec according to NPD the 360 sold 1,100,00 consoles and the PS3 sold 491k. That is only 2 weeks after the PS3 launch with all that HUGE PS2 hype and the 360 still more then doubled the PS3. I mean come on the PS3 was not able to sell more then the 360 even when the system launched.

Also do not give the year head start excuse. The hype for PS3 at launch was crazy. On Ebay PS3 went for $4,000 at PS3 launch. It is more a factor that the gamers know that the 360 is a better console. It is also the reason why PS3 has never sold more then the 360 on NPD ever.

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#14 raynimrod
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Lol @ your maths TC. 192% increase of 184k is 537.28k.... lol!
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#15 Shadow2k6
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[QUOTE="Shadow2k6"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

I agree the PS3 was not even able to sell more then the 360 last Nov according to NPD and the PS3 launched then. So why would the PS3 sell more now when the 360 still has the best game libary.

I am sure some will say price cut but you have to remember the PS3 is still the most expensive console out.

Eltroz

Maybe because when the PS3 launched last year it was towards the end of the month and the 360 was out since 2005 so it had that whole month to come up with sales while PS3 only had a percentage of that month to come up with sales.

Ok you do not like Nov even though the PS3 had a launch on that month and launches are supposed to be huge selles. How about the month after in Dec. In Dec according to NPD the 360 sold 1,100,00 consoles and the PS3 sold 491k. That is only 2 weeks after the PS3 launch with all that HUGE PS2 hype and the 360 still more then doubled the PS3. I mean come on the PS3 was not able to sell more then the 360 even when the system launched.

Also do not give the year head start excuse. The hype for PS3 at launch was crazy. On Ebay PS3 went for $4,000 at PS3 launch. It is more a factor that the gamers know that the 360 is a better console. It is also the reason why PS3 has never sold more then the 360 on NPD ever.

Still you can't compare a system that has been out to a system that just launched. Thats like comparing a PS2 to a 360 back in November 2005.In 2005 and 2006 PS2 outsold 360 in November so I fail to see how what i'm saying is a excuse. I'm saying a system that has been out will always sell more then a system which just launched which is true, considering most early adopters are hardcore gamers anyways.

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#16 xboxdevil
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Haven't seen the numbers yet, but Wal-mart's promotion on the PS3 80GB sold a crapload of PS3's nationwide. It was only for the day after Black Friday, but, c'mon, 10 free blu-ray movies with purchase of PS3? That's friggin insane. I know two of my buddies who have done nothing but dog the PS3, went into Wal-mart yesterday and bought one! :lol:
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[QUOTE="Shadow2k6"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

I agree the PS3 was not even able to sell more then the 360 last Nov according to NPD and the PS3 launched then. So why would the PS3 sell more now when the 360 still has the best game libary.

I am sure some will say price cut but you have to remember the PS3 is still the most expensive console out.

Eltroz

Maybe because when the PS3 launched last year it was towards the end of the month and the 360 was out since 2005 so it had that whole month to come up with sales while PS3 only had a percentage of that month to come up with sales.

Ok you do not like Nov even though the PS3 had a launch on that month and launches are supposed to be huge selles. How about the month after in Dec. In Dec according to NPD the 360 sold 1,100,00 consoles and the PS3 sold 491k. That is only 2 weeks after the PS3 launch with all that HUGE PS2 hype and the 360 still more then doubled the PS3. I mean come on the PS3 was not able to sell more then the 360 even when the system launched.

Also do not give the year head start excuse. The hype for PS3 at launch was crazy. On Ebay PS3 went for $4,000 at PS3 launch. It is more a factor that the gamers know that the 360 is a better console. It is also the reason why PS3 has never sold more then the 360 on NPD ever.

Why is 360 the better console?
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#18 Pripyat
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[QUOTE="revolution2k6"]

wow that was scientific :roll: face it ps3 is doing a lil better, stop being a fanboy and except it instead of bringing it down over and over.

Eponique

Sony said PS3 sales increased 192%. So it's plausible.

They said the combined sales of the 40 and 80 GB models had increased by 192% compared to only God knows when, so I guess they're doing pretty bad overall. The PS3 will sell less than 300k during november, maybe even close to 200k.

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#19 jester0815
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I can't say PS3 is doomed for failair yet, but the price drop without the backwards compatibility may shy people away from buying the system. Their exclusive titles are slim to none, and without the DualShock2 the bluetooth controller is awkward. (Yes I know it should be out soon, but that should have been implemented at launch.) I honestly think that sony has priced their system way to high for the average consumer to buy, at launch. Most people don't want to shell out that much money for a system. If the PS3 drops to 299.99 I think I might invest in one, but until then, the sony campaign is struggling to make it in the busy world of counsel gaming. (I do have a PSP and a PS2, which I both bought at launch so I don't think I am being too biased. I decided to get an XBOX360 over the PS3, which was a hard decision, but in all I am happy I made the choice.)
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#21 TREAL_Since
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Everyone is claiming that this price drop is going to fix all of Sony's problems. Sony themselves have bosted that sales increased 192% since the price drop. Lets work the numbers here:

October NPD

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3 - 184k

Now you have to understand that to begin with you always have a big spike in sales in November.But just for the sake of argument lets just assume the sales numbers stay exactly the same except the PS3's increasednumbers:

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3- 354k

The PS3is doomed for the remainder of 2007 and at least a few months into 2008.

Firelore29

Hey, while you're at it give me the winning lottery numbers for Mega Millions. Thank you .

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#22 beerm_basic
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dont let renegade see this thread lol

i cant see the ps3 outselling the 360 or wii for a long time

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#23 MrSickVisionz
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According to Sony fanboys, in 2008 the PS3 will sell 1 million units a month and the Wii and 360 will drop to about 500 units a month.
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#24 wiretoss
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Everyone is claiming that this price drop is going to fix all of Sony's problems. Sony themselves have bosted that sales increased 192% since the price drop. Lets work the numbers here:

October NPD

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3 - 184k

Now you have to understand that to begin with you always have a big spike in sales in November.But just for the sake of argument lets just assume the sales numbers stay exactly the same except the PS3's increasednumbers:

Wii - 519k 360 - 366k PS3- 354k

The PS3is doomed for the remainder of 2007 and at least a few months into 2008.

Firelore29

Wow someone smart. :D