PS3/XBOX vs 6 year old gaming PC?

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

PC

it depend how much and how good that PC was when it was first purchased.

2011 - 6 = 2005

You could still own a computer with an amazing graphics card. So PC.

We're talking about the same hardware that is in use in consoles right now, minus the performance advantages of fixed hardware.

So consoles would perform better, but that isn't really saying anything.

2011 - 6 = 2005

You could still own a computer with an amazing graphics card. So PC.

UC3Drake

7800 GTX was the best card on the market in 2005, and it was incredibly expensive.... and i would imagine it falls below the minimum requirements for alot of recent games.

I'd say that the number of gamers with a PC in Nov. 2005 that could out perform the 360's capabilities was minuscule. :P

I think performance would be about the same. You'd be playing today's games at sub 720p on a 2005 high end PC, just like you do with the consoles.

BUT

Unlike a console, you can always upgrade a PC. For like $80 you could turn that 2005 PC into somethign that performs BETTER than modern consoles.

So if your frame rate in Crysis 2 is dropping to 20-25 fps from time to time even though it's rendering the game at just barely 720p with low rez textures, small amount of dynamic lights, etc, on a console you're stuck. Can't do nothing about it.

On the PC $80 nets you 1680x1050, higher rez textures, more dynamic lights/better quality shadows and shaders and a solid 30 fps+. And of course Star Crfat II, Shogun 2, Witcher 2, Diablo 3, and all the rest of the cool PC exclusives + mods.

And it's a PC, it's not just a game box. You can do all your other PC related things with it.

So, yeah, I'd dake a 2005 gaming rig over a console any day.

Hell, That's exactly what I did do. I had an old 2005 PC. I upgraded the CPU and GPU and tossed in a TV tuner for like $180. Now it's my Home Theater PC. It records all my HD shows, holds my entire DVD/Blu-Ray library, streams netflix, hulu, youtube, etc, and transcodes and streams my audio and video entertainment accross the internet. Of course it also plays games at 1080p on my HD TV.

You can't do that with a console.

Back in 2006 I had a QX6700, 4GB ram, 8800GTX and this old pc still play multiplats better than 360/ps3. Of course i have upgraded many times since then but that is a different story.

Back in 2006 I had a QX6700, 4GB ram, 8800GTX and this old pc still play multiplats better than 360/ps3. Of course i have upgraded many times since then but that is a different story.

MK-Professor

How much did that cost back then?

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Back in 2006 I had a QX6700, 4GB ram, 8800GTX and this old pc still play multiplats better than 360/ps3. Of course i have upgraded many times since then but that is a different story.

hiiijack

How much did that cost back then?

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

I have a 6 year old mid-range pc here. Pentium 4 3.0, 1.5gb. Recently upgraded it with a 65 euro HD5670 and it now runs a lot of games very decently.

Runs Resident Evil 5 @ 30fps @ 1680*1050, which is better than my PS3 i believe. It can also run Stalker COP, albeit with lowered detail, it runs into trouble with cpu heavy games though. Haven't really tried newer games on it seeing as i have a new pc for that.

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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Back in 2006 I had a QX6700, 4GB ram, 8800GTX and this old pc still play multiplats better than 360/ps3. Of course i have upgraded many times since then but that is a different story.

VanDammFan

How much did that cost back then?

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

Thats what I was thinking.. Can we compare a 2005 $400 dollar pc to the 360? I really don't have a clue about pc costs.

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[QUOTE="hiiijack"]

How much did that cost back then?

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

Thats what I was thinking.. Can we compare a 2005 $400 dollar pc to the 360? I really don't have a clue about pc costs.

lol how many 6 year old xboxes are there? :Pblue_hazy_basic

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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Back in 2006 I had a QX6700, 4GB ram, 8800GTX and this old pc still play multiplats better than 360/ps3. Of course i have upgraded many times since then but that is a different story.

VanDammFan

How much did that cost back then?

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

8800GTX for 200-300 bucks? i wish, the card came out at the tail end of 2006 and i bought one too... it cost $600.

lol how many 6 year old xboxes are there? :Pblue_hazy_basic

lol nice one

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

blue_hazy_basic

Thats what I was thinking.. Can we compare a 2005 $400 dollar pc to the 360? I really don't have a clue about pc costs.

Solid points, but how much was a comparable pc in 2005?

Solid points, but how much was a comparable pc in 2005?

hiiijack

More than the cots of a 360. Console manufacturers receive massive discounts in a number of areas (bulk orders and contractual partnerships with GPU developers) and thus the costs are significantly lowered. With PC you are buying through retail after considerable markups.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="hiiijack"]

Thats what I was thinking.. Can we compare a 2005 $400 dollar pc to the 360? I really don't have a clue about pc costs.

Solid points, but how much was a comparable pc in 2005?

You can SLI a 7800 GTX for increased performance so PC.:D

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

charlesdarwin55

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

blackace

Just like the consoles can't play exclusive PC titles :? I don't understand the relevance of your point.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

Thats what I was thinking.. Can we compare a 2005 $400 dollar pc to the 360? I really don't have a clue about pc costs.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="hiiijack"]

Thats what I was thinking.. Can we compare a 2005 $400 dollar pc to the 360? I really don't have a clue about pc costs.

Vadamee

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

Thats what I was thinking.. Can we compare a 2005 $400 dollar pc to the 360? I really don't have a clue about pc costs.

[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Well with 6 yrs of xbox live & 6 years of more expensive games (at say 1 game a month) I reckon thats about $1000 right there - not including the original hardware or the HDTV you need to play it on to get the most out of it .... Oh look thats $200 more that I paid for my brand new gaming rig and monitor! :oblue_hazy_basic

is it even a real point? the HDTV nonsense aside.... you are assuming you will be buying 12 games a year and have xbox live active every single day for six years. with those assumptions you are not saying pc is "cheaper", all you are saying is it WOULD be cheaper if you gamed under certain conditions.

since we are up to this, should i include $15 a month fee for six years to the pc's price for a WoW subscription?

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

charlesdarwin55

PC all the way.

- If I want more RAM I can always get it

- If I want a better Video card I can get it

- If I want to mod my games I can do it

- If a part breaks on my PC I can fix it

With consoles if you want better looking games or you want to upgrade you are SOL, you have to buy a new console. If your console breaks you are also SOL.

what about comparing a $600 2005 PC vs a $600 PS3. and bby $600 2005 PC that does not count the monitor.

what about comparing a $600 2005 PC vs a $600 PS3. and bby $600 2005 PC that does not count the monitor.

rawr89

I dont want to get into this argument again..I mean...debate...BUT I dont care what anyone says...YOU HAVE TO FIGURE THE PRICE OF A MONITOR INTO A PC..JUST LIKE if you build your own, you have to add the price of an OS at some point. EVERYONE I know has some kind of a tv and that tv may or may not have a way to use a pc on it..SO a monitor is ALWAYS 100% of the time figured into STARTING out with a PC..NOW if you upgrade your pc later on, you already have the monitor so no need in adding it again..You have it already..

THIS is just the way it works...People have tvs...NOT everyone has a monitor OR a tv that can "with ease" be used as a pc monitor.

Realistically no one would have a 6 year old PC that could take on a console right now. First even an super 3l33t PC from that time would only be owned by a few, and second that PC was probably already in a graveyard like a little more than 5 years ago, replaced by another super 3l33t PC. Second even those 7900GTX on SLI can't do much with their level of optimization nowadays and also the whole thing would almost flop by looking at the price of a console and the price of the PC.

Third the amount of people that have a six year old console is also as laughable as the 360 with the whole RROD thing. If we go for something more realistic like the age of a PS3, which a launch unit is highly more likely to still function compared to a 360. The High end Geforce 8 series still gives as good if not better than consoles performance up to this point.

I dont want to get into this argument again..I mean...debate...BUT I dont care what anyone says...YOU HAVE TO FIGURE THE PRICE OF A MONITOR INTO A PC..JUST LIKE if you build your own, you have to add the price of an OS at some point. EVERYONE I know has some kind of a tv and that tv may or may not have a way to use a pc on it..SO a monitor is ALWAYS 100% of the time figured into STARTING out with a PC..NOW if you upgrade your pc later on, you already have the monitor so no need in adding it again..You have it already..

THIS is just the way it works...People have tvs...NOT everyone has a monitor OR a tv that can "with ease" be used as a pc monitor.

VanDammFan

Done and done. You can hook up your PC to an SDTV (God knows why you would want to), just like you can hook up a console to a SDTV. Hence, we don't include the cost of either.

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[QUOTE="Vadamee"] Except we're talking about hardware and not accessories which have nothing to do with its ability to play games. Also, you can hook your console up to monitors just as you can hook your PC up to TVs so the point is moot.alfredooo

is it even a real point? the HDTV nonsense aside.... you are assuming you will be buying 12 games a year and have xbox live active every single day for six years. with those assumptions you are not saying pc is "cheaper", all you are saying is it WOULD be cheaper if you gamed under certain conditions.

since we are up to this, should i include $15 a month fee for six years to the pc's price for a WoW subscription?

I said NOT including the costs of the xbox or the tv (see again NOT and remember this is 2005 when most people didn't have HDTV's) I was comparing the cost of owning a PC vs a 360 for those 6 years. So while the initial cost is higher, the long term benefits balance that out. As for the assumptions, I would say MOST (see I said MOST) gamers on here that own a 360 have Live, and that MOST people would buy at least 1 game every 30 or days or so.

So for the person quoted I compared a reasonable cost of the 360 vs a PC.

EDIT glitchspot buried my post

Console > 6 year old PC, unless that PC cost about $2500 6 years ago - or of course if you've upgraded it - but that means you've poured more money into hardware just to keep up with games. If it's the same PC you spent $500 for 6 years ago then you probably can't do jack @#%^ on it right now as far as games are concerned. For old games you can keep up with consoles just fine, but new games might not even be supported on older PC hardware - whereas they are more and more being optimized for consoles. Especially since most computers then and now get sold with integrated graphics not everyone has the max GPU of the time, not everyone has a dedicated GPU at all.

Obviously in the last couple years the bang for the buck has shifted more in the PC's favor, each year that goes on now without a new console the PC market looks better and better. Even a cheapass like me sees value in spending $500-700 on a PC that will do 1080P games across the board. In the past I just played whatever games my PC could (but I played original Half like and original Counter-Strike just fine 10 years ago).But this year I'll be building a PC specifically for Battlefield 3 to make sure I play it at 1080P or more and with DX11.

When the next gen of consoles comes out it is highly like that the "value proposition" will be temporarily shifted back in the consoles favor, that is assuming Sony/MS learn their lesson and release at better price point. Remember that they usually sell the hardware as a "loss leader".

Price per performance, consoles would have probably been the better choice back in 2005. Now even cheap $500-$600 computers can smoke any console and not by just a little but a LOOOOOONG shot.

You can SLI a 7800 GTX for increased performance so PC.:D

mitu123

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

charlesdarwin55

My 2 years old laptop does not even start Crysis 2 and my 1 year old PC (700$)runs it in 5-25fps

So, xbox 360 beats anything less than a super PC today

As for a 6 yo PC, i doubt it can even install Crysis 2, as for running it ....

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[QUOTE="hiiijack"]

How much did that cost back then?

markinthedark

The OS alone cost at least 100$..The video card probably 200$-250$...RAM I would say 100$..So far we're up there pretty good..still have case,ROM,motherboard,PSU,processor,ect ect..

8800GTX for 200-300 bucks? i wish, the card came out at the tail end of 2006 and i bought one too... it cost $600.

Unless he got a used one a really good deal from someone did 8800GTX did not cost him 250-300... That card kept its $500-600 price tag for a very long time going all the way till 2008 you could still sell them for about $250-300 used. And that CPU is a $600 CPU if im correct.

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

killzoneded

My 2 years old laptop does not even start Crysis 2 and my 1 year old PC (700$)runs it in 5-25fps

So, xbox 360 beats anything less than a super PC today

As for a 6 yo PC, i doubt it can even install Crysis 2, as for running it ....

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

killzoneded

My 2 years old laptop does not even start Crysis 2 and my 1 year old PC (700$)runs it in 5-25fps

So, xbox 360 beats anything less than a super PC today

As for a 6 yo PC, i doubt it can even install Crysis 2, as for running it ....

My 2 years old laptop does not even start Crysis 2 and my 1 year old PC (700$)runs it in 5-25fps

So, xbox 360 beats anything less than a super PC today

As for a 6 yo PC, i doubt it can even install Crysis 2, as for running it ....

killzoneded

What are the specs of your 1 year old PC? I fully expect you not to answer.

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

So what is better; powerful 6 year old PC or PS3/Xbox?

killzoneded

My 2 years old laptop does not even start Crysis 2 and my 1 year old PC (700$)runs it in 5-25fps

So, xbox 360 beats anything less than a super PC today

As for a 6 yo PC, i doubt it can even install Crysis 2, as for running it ....

And who honestly uses laptops for gaming?