Ps4 beats xbone 4 to 1 in China!!!

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#1 sovkhan
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As if NPD for november was not enough, the last numbers from Zhugeex, backed by industry sources confirmed that Sony has sold in 410k to China mainland.

Not that the number is impressive by itself, but compared to 100k shipped by Ms, one can easily say that China favors ps4.

Which destroys any narrative such as China gonna save the box!!! at least for the silly enough to come up with such an absurd idea.

https://zhugeex.com/

So the only region where the xbone seem to be doing fine are NA and UK!!!

And that it's major problem, since to stay relevant in these regions Xbone will focuse on what Murica likes, thus making it less attractive to the rest of the world.

Or if you look at on another stand point, what is it that make microsoft consoles irrelevant WW except from the regions mentioned before.

What do you think about it folks??

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#2 MonsieurX
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Breaking news: Microsoft console is not popular in Asia

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"Not that the number is impressive by itself, but compared to 100k shipped by Ms, one can easily say that China favors ps4." I'll call you Capt. Obvious for this one, this isn't news cause we all know MS sells like crap in Asian markets.

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#4 Howmakewood
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Well you obviously want to focus on the markets where you potentially make money, that is NA and EU, Japan is out of reach for non Japanese company that's obvious. Chinese paying for games/xbl? dont think so. I doubt south america has huge amount of people paying for online either and same with africa.

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I remember when lems said China would save the Xbone because Chinese people hate the Japanese and the PS4 is Japanese. Poor fools, I tried to warn them lol.

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@MonsieurX said:

Breaking news: Microsoft console is not popular in Asia

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#7 sovkhan
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@BigShotSmoov007

I hear that, but you seem to forget that China is mainly pc.

My question is if Ms keep focusing on its main markets, isn't it a bad startegy in the long run?

Or Isn't Ms helping Sony by bringing the fight to its home turf instead of going global?:

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#8 sovkhan
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@quadknight said:

I remember when lems said China would save the Xbone because Chinese people hate the Japanese and the PS4 is Japanese. Poor fools, I tried to warn them lol.

That was one of the silliest idea ever...

What i'm trying to say here, is by limiting competition to only 2 countries, Ms helps Sony.

Sony will find it easier to counter Ms moves since they are limited and predictable.

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@sovkhan: Just wait till Nintendo breaks in, i think theyll set China on fire.

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I used to live in China. Gaming is totally different there, you really have no idea.

First of all, you buy modded consoles. Period. You buy modded consoles with custom software and usually a hard drive of pirated games. When you want new games you go to a bootleg market and get burned copies of whatever is big at the moment.

Your console hasn't been cracked for modding yet? It's gonna fail in that market. Nobody wants to buy legit games. They cost the same as here, but China is a country where people make less money and things are generally less expensive. You pay 600 kuai for a game (about 100$) and that could be your cell phone, internet and food bills for the entire month. Instead, you pay 100 kuai or less for games at markets.

But most people don't due that because you can build a PC easily and cheaply in China. Most people play on PC if they're not playing on mobiles which is a way bigger market. I really wish I had thought ahead before I moved back and gotten some parts. I wouldn't get major components from knockoff markets but there's a lot of stuff they make fakes of that are of comparable quality to the real thing for a fraction of the price. I've got a knockoff Kingston flash drive that's 256 gigs and it cost me a converted 5$ or so. As long as you're good at haggling stuff costs peanuts.

Also, 410k or 100k sold, that's really sad. China has 1.7 billion people. That's five times the size of the United States, and it sold a fraction of what gets sold in the US, resulting in sales per-capita that are drastically below even what the Wii U launched at.

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@sovkhan said:

@BigShotSmoov007

I hear that, but you seem to forget that China is mainly pc.

My question is if Ms keep focusing on its main markets, isn't it a bad startegy in the long run?

Or Isn't Ms helping Sony by bringing the fight to its home turf instead of going global?:

Yean but NOTHING Xbox sells in Asian markets. Yeah MS will probably keep trying cause they have to in a small degree but they know they not making a dent over there.

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#12  Edited By granddogg
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Im starting to think everybody on this board only care about how much a company sales.....Im mean really who gives a rats ass.....I had a ps4 and sold it 2mts ago it was a boring system no good 1st party games(imo).....now i got an xbone and really enjoying it....just enjoy your games man and let wal street worry about sales data..

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#13 sovkhan
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@Big_Red_Button said:

I used to live in China. Gaming is totally different there, you really have no idea.

First of all, you buy modded consoles. Period. You buy modded consoles with custom software and usually a hard drive of pirated games. When you want new games you go to a bootleg market and get burned copies of whatever is big at the moment.

Your console hasn't been cracked for modding yet? It's gonna fail in that market. Nobody wants to buy legit games. They cost the same as here, but China is a country where people make less money and things are generally less expensive. You pay 600 kuai for a game (about 100$) and that could be your cell phone, internet and food bills for the entire month. Instead, you pay 100 kuai or less for games at markets.

But most people don't due that because you can build a PC easily and cheaply in China. Most people play on PC if they're not playing on mobiles which is a way bigger market. I really wish I had thought ahead before I moved back and gotten some parts. I wouldn't get major components from knockoff markets but there's a lot of stuff they make fakes of that are of comparable quality to the real thing for a fraction of the price. I've got a knockoff Kingston flash drive that's 256 gigs and it cost me a converted 5$ or so. As long as you're good at haggling stuff costs peanuts.

Also, 410k or 100k sold, that's really sad. China has 1.7 billion people. That's five times the size of the United States, and it sold a fraction of what gets sold in the US, resulting in sales per-capita that are drastically below even what the Wii U launched at.

I lived in China as well,Beijing and Shenyang city to be precise, and what you say is partly true.

Wealthy Chinese can easily afford any console, and that's alot of people, but the market is mainly pc oriented now.

China is going to be a dominant market that's the very reason why corps invest in there.

The goal is to have a solid business network once the market matures.

So if the sales are kinda poor by now, it's to establish itself as a dominant brand that matters,

In that regard, ps4 is miles ahead.

You must look at it as a long terms plan, not focusing on the present state of the market.

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@granddogg said:

Im starting to think everybody on this board only care about how much a company sales.....Im mean really who gives a rats ass.....I had a ps4 and sold it 2mts ago it was a boring system no good 1st party games(imo).....now i got an xbone and really enjoying it....just enjoy your games man and let wal street worry about sales data..

Millions are enjoying their ps4, just like you dislike it, what's the point?

The thread is about global attraction and strategy more than about sales.

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Newsflash: PS4 destroy Xbone everywhere but the US which is overrun by dudebros.(still beat them though lol)

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@sovkhan said:

As if NPD for november was not enough, the last numbers from Zhugeex, backed by industry sources confirmed that Sony has sold in 410k to China mainland.

Not that the number is impressive by itself, but compared to 100k shipped by Ms, one can easily say that China favors ps4.

Which destroys any narrative such as China gonna save the box!!! at least for the silly enough to come up with such an absurd idea.

https://zhugeex.com/

So the only region where the xbone seem to be doing fine are NA and UK!!!

And that it's major problem, since to stay relevant in these regions Xbone will focuse on what Murica likes, thus making it less attractive to the rest of the world.

Or if you look at on another stand point, what is it that make microsoft consoles irrelevant WW except from the regions mentioned before.

What do you think about it folks??

What the f*ck is wrong with you cows? No breakdown was given. And, the article specifically states:

Sales have been disappointing for the two consoles in China with neither of the two being able to drastically increase the presence of consoles in the country despite the government recently legalising the sale of dedicated gaming systems.

Seriously, get your head out of your ass.

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@MonsieurX: MUST be why lems thought China would save Xbone. Hmmmmmm

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#18  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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Not even past war crimes can stop the ps4.

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#19  Edited By granddogg
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@sovkhan: who said they dont ? I said enjoy your games......and global attra. Dont mean jack.....hell just check out the shake weight.... It just shows people buy shit products because they are told its cool..

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RIP in peace: Chine will save the XBone.

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#21  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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The only thing stopping China from purchasing a ps4 is the escalators gobbling customers up on the way to the store or the building it's located in imploding.

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@sovkhan: But 410k sales in China is nothing. When they're playing the long game they want to establish visibility in the market. Selling so few units means that most people won't know anyone that has a PS4, they won't talk about PS4, and they won't care about PS4. It's an earnest attempt and certainly a valid strategy, but any claim of Sony "dominating" is kinda ridiculous. Really, both Sony and Microsoft fell flat on their faces by totally misunderstanding a market that just isn't interested in new consoles.

If you wanna dominate in China, start making phone games. A p2w cash shop Halo game with decent marketing will make more money in China than traditional console Microsoft could release by orders of magnitudes.

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#23  Edited By AgentA-Mi6
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The Xbone can't even beat the PS4 in it's own home territory, would you expect anything else from other countries and continents lol

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#24  Edited By ni6htmare01
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Didn't someone said (I forgot who) that China is going to save the XB1?? lol

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xbox can't win them all. lol

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9:1 in Spain. Well over > 2:1 in other large emerging markets like the Middle East (over one millions sales in that region as of September). Hell it's dominating everywhere everywhere that isn't US or UK, and even there it's still winning handily.

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@howmakewood said:

Japan is out of reach for non Japanese company that's obvious.

Tell that to Apple...

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@ni6htmare01 said:

Didn't someone said (I forgot who) that China is going to save the XB1?? lol

@blackace and probably tymeservesfate/b4x/tigersuperman

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#29  Edited By SonySoldier-_-
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http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/the-xbox-one-is-a-success-in-china-updated-31588968/

It's funny to look at these old system wars threads from over a year ago when lems thought China would be their savior.

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No wonder when it's quickly becoming a F2PStation, P2WStation, AndroidStation and MicrotransactionStation...

It sits well with Chinese peasants who love it all.

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http://kotaku.com/report-microsoft-sells-100-000-xbox-ones-in-china-1642819315 MS sold 100K Xbox Ones in just a few weeks. Posted more than a year ago.

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

No wonder when it's quickly becoming a F2PStation, P2WStation, AndroidStation and MicrotransactionStation...

It sits well with Chinese peasants who love it all.

What's wrong with Android?

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

No wonder when it's quickly becoming a F2PStation, P2WStation, AndroidStation and MicrotransactionStation...

It sits well with Chinese peasants who love it all.

Unfortunate user name. :)

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#35  Edited By RossRichard
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@ni6htmare01 said:

Didn't someone said (I forgot who) that China is going to save the XB1?? lol

That would be Blackace. He wouldn't shut up about it for months. I'm pretty sure Kuu and Tigersuperman were spouting that BS too.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Not even past war crimes can stop the ps4.

Oooh, dat historical reference

+1

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#37 Eikichi-Onizuka
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So PS4 sold 4 consoles in China?

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#38  Edited By cainetao11
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Makes sense. The Xbox is an American product. China has had their hate for Japan but in todays world America is the one that could be spying on Communist china more logically. LOL

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#40  Edited By cainetao11
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@speak_low said:
@cainetao11 said:

Makes sense. The Xbox is an American product. China has had their hate for Japan but in todays world America is the one that could be spying on Communist china more logically. LOL

You and Salting The Fries are like Siamese nutcases. NyaDC is the crazy cherry on top.

McDonald's, KFC, Nike, Coca-Cola, Starbucks, Disney are immensely popular over there. There's this company called APPLE that dominates electronic sales in China. Oh, there's another company called.....MICROSOFT that is the most-used operating system in China, leagues ahead of that small company called Apple. Not to mention the movie industry and how huge American-made films are over there - China is one of the fastest rising markets ever, and they go crazy over American summer releases just like we do here.

Nope, it seems that most of China just doesn't want the Xbox One and prefer the PS4 instead, when looking at their similar price ranges. People always making up excuses for poor sales: Japan hating these people, China hating these people, US and French and Germans despising certain people.......and every time they're proven wrong by simple examples they completely forget about.

LMAO I was laughing so hard when I was trying to word that troll post. You bought in hook line and sinker.

I trade in stocks and a couple are Chinese companies, keep track of foreign markets and most importantly? I don't take this shit THAT seriously. Thank you for replying dude.

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