@AM-Gamer The gtaV shots I posted demolish any SS shots. Witcher3 PC also demolishes SS. SS is fighting for 4th place with modded Watchdogs/Skyrim.
You lost.
Yet nobody seems to agree with you.
You must have skipped NydaDC, Krelian, 04dcarrera, QuadKnight, and Delta posts.....you're more blind than I thought. The screenshots speak for themselves.
The only person to agree with you that SS>GTAV was a low post troll account (BobRossPerm). SS is at 4/5th place for open world gfx, i'll give you that.
@AM-Gamer The gtaV shots I posted demolish any SS shots. Witcher3 PC also demolishes SS. SS is fighting for 4th place with modded Watchdogs/Skyrim.
You lost.
Yet nobody seems to agree with you.
on contrary, no one agrees with you, you are delusional enough to think the ps4 can produce better graphics than pcs 3-4 times or more stronger. That is a fact, feel free to continue being delusional.
@Krelian-co: Because 3x more powerful makes games automatically look better. By your definition Pac man will look better then any console game if the PC that runs it is more powerful.
@Krelian-co: Because 3x more powerful makes games automatically look better. By your definition Pac man will look better then any console game if the PC that runs it is more powerful.
@delta3074: Sure it does. I said they looked exactly alike he said they looked NOTHING alike. And you attacked me not him.
How can I admit anything to someone who can't even spell admit? And you are talking about reading comprehension?
Talking with you is Akin to having your brains smashed out with a very large hammer, Again you missed the entire point of my initial post or any thereafter.
'I said they looked exactly alike he said they looked NOTHING alike. And you attacked me not him.'
i attacked you because you contradicted yourself, he did not Contradict himself
Spelling=/=reading comprehension, reading Comprehension is understanding what is written, you kept claiming and are still claiming i was backing up his argument, i was not and nothing in my post would even imply that so you obviously did not understand what i was writing or even the Context i was writing in.
I only have a problem spelling on keyboards because i type too fast and don't check what i am writing, it has nothing to do with not knowing how a word is Spelt.
I have an A level in English literature, my spelling is perfect when i am not typing.
One last time lets see if you get it
The SOLE PURPOSE of my original post was to POINT OUT YOUR BLATANT CONTRADICTION not to back up his argument or debunk yours.
Basically, you are an idiot for defeating your own argument in your own post, you admitted DC adds AA in photo mode so therefore it cannot look EXACTLY the same in photo mode as it does in game
I cannot believe it took this long and you are still missing the entire point of my first post.
Anyway, Reply with whatever, i won't be reading it, i cannot be bothered talking with someone who doesn't even seem to understand the entire point of what i am saying.
And infamous SS is NOT the king of open world games, not even close, get real.
I will address your Skyrim comment first.....
Didn't you say you were just a console gamer? And now you are telling me how great modded Skyrim looks? Please stfu with your mindless garbage. Skyrim mods add outstanding textures and some nice lighting , it still has that horribly outdated geometry with low poly environments and character models. That's not to mention the god awful animations but you wouldn't know that right?
You then said Jankrop has not contradicted himself but I did so therefore you decided to attack me. This is a public forum so when you take the topic at hand and only decide to address one person that would generally be accepted as you are taking the other persons side. That's not even counting the fact he has contradicted himself several times in this thread actually. He went on to trash cows for posting photo mode bull-shots without HUD's and then precedes to post nothing but Hudless GTA and FC4 pics. Funny you haven't made a peep yet you wanted to attack me over the term "exactly" so now lets address you.
If you have a A level in literature you would know spelt is not the correct word it's spelled. Don't criticize people for not being able to understand words with more then four letters and then precede to misspell a word with 5 letters. Don't talk about how you don't have the time to be bothered with spell checking because you type so fast when you have over 18 thousand post in a gaming forum and have the time to respond to me time and time again with illiterate drivel. I personally don' t care about your ability to type or spell as I don't try to personally insult someone over meaningless things. People respond in these forums with Hyperbole and I tend to do the same( System wars will drag you down to that level) but if were going to call people out on there intelligence at least learn to type and spell...... ok Sunshine?
@Heirren Resized gifs...really? What is this...2004?
Can you post in-gameplay (direct feeds with HUD) shots of SS that look better than GTAV-4k-Ultra? The ones you guys post have 100% blurred out backgrounds because only the character models are decent in that game.
Face it, GTAV looks better overall. Look I know second place sucks, but you're going to have to admit PC has better gfx.
@Jankarcop: 8.0 is poor now? And GTA V and modded skyrim did you really just mention those two? Infamous SS dumps all over those so if Infamous looks like shit those other games must be unplayable. The photo mode doesn't add assets on either of those games so the massive differences you see that don't exist is hilarious.
Or your just a delusional troll which I'm going to go with the latter.
This thread is full off bellends.... stop posting photo mode shots.... they're bullshit.....
I've played I:SS and in places it can look so bad..... it has it's moments of beauty but it's to inconsistent to be considered an over all good looking game.
You exposed an old account which has the same name congratulations, your investigation skills are top class.
Different country, different timing of posts but that doesn't fit with your sad world.
Yeah i'm sure your not..hahaha
So because we signed up in the same year, have similar names, support the same console we are the same person. Yet when someone clearly points out it cant be cos they are in different countries and the timings of postings means one of them would have to get up in the middle of the night to post and the names are totally different (had tdkmillsy probably since before you where born) you still argue the point.
That about sums up all your posts on here. Sad, pathetic and often completely wrong but why would that stop you.
Drive Club and Infamous' graphics are so over hyped by fakeboys. Drive Club doesn't look impressive at all. Infamous is not even full open world. Its city is small and feels dead. Have no day and night cycles and a lot of scenes don't even feature dynamic shadows. The Order 1886 on other hand is a tiny room simulator. Games like Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed: Unity and Unreal Tournament make these games look like last gen indie games.
@Heirren Resized gifs...really? What is this...2004?
Can you post in-gameplay (direct feeds with HUD) shots of SS that look better than GTAV-4k-Ultra? The ones you guys post have 100% blurred out backgrounds because only the character models are decent in that game.
Face it, GTAV looks better overall. Look I know second place sucks, but you're going to have to admit PC has better gfx.
Infamous does look better. Not just the lighting but the animation demolishes GTA5 easily.
Yeah, SS was the first game to impress me this gen, though not as much as Gears last gen.
Certain things like LOD and AF will be better on GTAV simply because it's on PC but everything else is no contest. That said it's not a generational difference between the two, the hardware leap this gen just wasn't big enough.
You have to take into account how much more GTA V is doing when comparing it to SS, in terms of NCPs, traffic and the weather cycles. The only victory for Infamous is character models and particle effects. I found traversing the lifeless, empty city extremely boring.
Another game easy to shoot down is The Order. Compare screens of that with the indoor environments of, say, AC Unity at ultra on PC and the latter looks just as aesthetically pleasing, with less blur, plus it's a huge open-world rendition of French Revolution era Paris, as opposed to a corridor-simulator. I will concede that The Order's character models are outstanding but that's not really surprising or that impressive given the fact they take up a larger than usual amount of the poly-count.
To elaborate on my previous post regarding characters models and graphics in general, a trend I've noticed with next-gen console games is that they often only focus on near details. So, you get very good character models and reasonable closeup environments but everything in the distance is a blurry mess, if you can see it at all. Obviously it's partly because console gamers sit further away from their screens, so if developers have to make graphical sacrifices, it'll usually be in that area, but most gamers play on huge TVs so it's still very noticeable.
A good example is the new Final Fantasy. The characters models, despite looking like a ridiculous emo J-pop band, are excellent but the distance detail is horribly off-putting for me, with a hideous, unnatural blur effect everywhere you look. If it was on PC it would be crystal clear and much better for it but unfortunately the PS4 just wouldn't be able to handle that. I'd actually prefer less detail on characters if it meant having a clearer image and better draw distance overall but the reality is, the next-gen consoles are just extremely inconsistent graphically because the hardware is so underwhelming.
@scatteh316: Look at all the non HuD shots from hermits lmao. Someone posted high quality gifs and it's still not good enough for you stupid trolls.
GTA V looks like shit in comparison get over it.
PC games don't have "photo mode" so it doesn't matter if there is a HUD or not, what you see is what you get, use your head. Even games which are not even necessarily new anymore still look good on PC, everything looks good on PC and that is the point...
It is also the animation. The lighting overall is more consistent in Infamous. Landscapes at a distance always look good. The detail scales, just like character models. The biggest issue with GTA5 visually is the contrast betweent the detail of scenes and characters up close with stiff Halo 2esque animation.
infamous SS looks and play like garbage for PC standards.
So much bullshit and lies..
@RyviusARC said:
That looks worse than GTA V......a last gen game.
lol Hermit again pretending Infamous look bad..
You have to be a pretty insecure person pretend Infamous look bad,you can argue other games run at higher resolution and higher frames but the level of fidelity in Infamous is quite great.
infamous SS looks and play like garbage for PC standards.
So much bullshit and lies..
@RyviusARC said:
That looks worse than GTA V......a last gen game.
lol Hermit again pretending Infamous look bad..
You have to be a pretty insecure person pretend Infamous look bad,you can argue other games run at higher resolution and higher frames but the level of fidelity in Infamous is quite great.
why doesn't sony put it on pc tho, it used to be like ps3 games didn't have problems but now all the ps4 versions are 30 fps or low res like 900p why isn't these games on pc u can do 60 fps now a days u can do 4k res
u can do all this stuff tormentos why doesn't sony let these games shine? these games deserve better than ps4 they deserve to be on the platform they were made on imo
So because we signed up in the same year, have similar names, support the same console we are the same person. Yet when someone clearly points out it cant be cos they are in different countries and the timings of postings means one of them would have to get up in the middle of the night to post and the names are totally different (had tdkmillsy probably since before you where born) you still argue the point.
That about sums up all your posts on here. Sad, pathetic and often completely wrong but why would that stop you.
Oh please there is a lot of ways to fake your location..hahaha
You know what they say if it look like shit smell like shit and taste like shit damn it most be shit.
Yes, the PS4 has OK graphics just like the X1, the PC has the best, everyone should know that, it's just plain common sense. My PS4 is getting dusty and new games worth playing,
So because we signed up in the same year, have similar names, support the same console we are the same person. Yet when someone clearly points out it cant be cos they are in different countries and the timings of postings means one of them would have to get up in the middle of the night to post and the names are totally different (had tdkmillsy probably since before you where born) you still argue the point.
That about sums up all your posts on here. Sad, pathetic and often completely wrong but why would that stop you.
Oh please there is a lot of ways to fake your location..hahaha
You know what they say if it look like shit smell like shit and taste like shit damn it most be shit.
Yay another example of not excepting the facts when they are staring at you in the face.
I suppose I set my alarm clock for early hours so I can get up and post on these forums as TTBoy. Some of us have better things to do, unlike you.
And I bet even now you wont admit you are wrong, the only person talking shit here is you, but that's nothing new.
Yes, the PS4 has OK graphics just like the X1, the PC has the best, everyone should know that, it's just plain common sense. My PS4 is getting dusty and new games worth playing,
These things do not create the graphics. Artists and designers create the graphics. Sony is willing to front the money to pay for talented people, often times. These people, and as a benefit of consoles, have the time to create such things within a set paradigm. A good artist can create more with less, than that of an amateur one. There are a select few Playstation 4 games that rival most pc games.
He went on to trash cows for posting photo mode bull-shots without HUD's and then precedes to post nothing but Hudless GTA and FC4 pics.
Personally, I think PS4 games do look good. But, as for HUD-less games, does the PS4 allow gameplay with no HUD like on the PC? For example, GTA V PC has options for no UI as do FC4.
@nyadc: If all those games look good to you on PC then Infamous SS along with other top tier console games should look better. The vast majority of the titles you posted were last gen ports with extra effects. That doesn't put them abo've anything on consoles. That's my point!
I'm not claiming the PS4 is more powerful then PC , if you took infamous SS and it ran on a 980 lvl GPU it would look even better and run better on PC. But these last gen ports don't look better then games built for next gen consoles. Geometry, lighting, animations, mods and IQ settings only do so much.
And here we go again with Ronvalecia school of hypocrisy.
They only hypocrisy comes from you.
So a 1.6 Ghz CPU can a drive a 7850OC to 30FPS but some how an 1.75GHz one can't drive 30 on a 7770.?
Metro dev already gave some reasons for XBO's higher CPU usage than PS4 e.g. dependency tracking.
From http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-alien-isolation-face-off
In comparison, both consoles target 30fps as the target frame-rate, although neither manages to solidly stick to it under load. Performance is mostly stable on PS4 with frame-rates incurring a light drop in combat, but the action remains v-synced at all times, so we never encounter any tearing. The main distraction comes in the form of brief freezes throughout the game, which temporarily sees frame-times languishing in the 200-460ms area, depending on the length of the pause.
Neither consoles sustained 30 fps as the minimum frame rate. You created an argument from fictional basis.
That quote you make from metro developer is debunked by him self on that same article you fool,He stated that was on the MONO driver period on the crappy mono drive and he him self not only state that MS had tools to work around the problem but also that they have a DX12 like API already but Metro developer didn't have time to use it,what fu** up the game you idiot was the fact that it was a game made for 5 platforms period.
He did NOT debunk himself you fool. You missed the question includes "low overhead" calls you stupid cow.
Digital Foundry: To what extent will DX12 prove useful on Xbox One? Isn't there already a >>>>>> LOW CPU overhead <<<<<<<<< there in addressing the GPU?
Oles Shishkovstov: No, it's important. All the dependency tracking takes a huge slice of CPU power. And if we are talking about the multi-threaded command buffer chunks generation - the DX11 model was essentially a 'flop', while DX12 should be the right one.
That is funny because Project cars developer claims to have split rendering over several cores something you people claim is not happening..hahaha
You attempted to use Killzone Shadow Fall's workload screenshot that shown single CPU draw submission you clown.
Project Cars developer's claims was for PS4 nothing for XBO.
Current XBO has one async compute context and one immediate rendering context.
DX12 expands XBO's Async context and removes deferred context multithreading to serialisation to immediate rendering context.
Again, XBO DX11.X is beyond PC's DX11.2 but falls short of DX12 i.e. XBO's DX11.X is a half baked API.
am waiting for you to explain to me why that gap is 97% when the PS4 GPU isn't 97% stronger than the xbox one CPU...hahahaaa
Again,
1. You created an argument from fictional basis.
2. DX12 expands XBO's Async context (from a single context) and removes deferred context multithreading to serialisation to immediate rendering context.
3. XBO DX11.X is beyond PC's DX11.2 but falls short of DX12 i.e. XBO's DX11.X is a half baked API.
4. Ubisoft shows XBO is being gimped by it's current API.
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