PS4 must win the console war for gaming world to survive

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#1 ihsanqueen
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Just imagine this:

if Xbox One won the console war, then there's high probability that next gen MS will use DRM restriction for their Xbox Two

if Nintendo WiiU won the console war, then there's high probability thatnext gen Nintendo will use shitty-spec for their console and then we won't get near-PC-experience on console anymore

But if PS4 win the war, then MS and Nintendo will surely reflect on their mistakes, and try to do something better next gen, that's why if you're a gamer you want PS4 to win the console war

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#2 legalize82
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dont worry they will
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#3 clyde46
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There is always PC gaming.
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#4 Heil68
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Sony has already won me over with the PS4 and by golly that's all that matters.
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#5 legalize82
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Sony has already won me over with the PS4 and by golly that's all that matters. Heil68
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#6 Bigboi500
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Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

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#7 ihsanqueen
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There is always PC gaming. clyde46
The sad truth about PC gaming is although it's the best for gamers, it's not the best for developers because of the piracy Many multiplatform title sold higher on console version than PC, that's why Rockstar didn't make RDR and GTA V PC version If PC all we have, then developers will think twice to make high-budget game because it will less profitable to only release game on PC
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#8 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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dont worry they willlegalize82

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]There is always PC gaming. ihsanqueen
The sad truth about PC gaming is although it's the best for gamers, it's not the best for developers because of the piracy Many multiplatform title sold higher on console version than PC, that's why Rockstar didn't make RDR and GTA V PC version If PC all we have, then developers will think twice to make high-budget game because it will less profitable to only release game on PC

Steam says hello. Plus devs make more money out of PC gaming compared to consoles. Also, where is your proof about the PC version of GTA5?
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#10 ihsanqueen
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Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

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I don't mean if PS4 win then Nintendo and MS will bankrupt for god's sake... Do you like the direction gaming world take after the Wii won? Casual games and motion sensor everywhere
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#11 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

ihsanqueen

I don't mean if PS4 win then Nintendo and MS will bankrupt for god's sake... Do you like the direction gaming world take after the Wii won? Casual games and motion sensor everywhere

The casual revolution started with PSone. Blame Sony for that trend.

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#12 ihsanqueen
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[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="clyde46"] [QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="clyde46"]There is always PC gaming. clyde46
The sad truth about PC gaming is although it's the best for gamers, it's not the best for developers because of the piracy Many multiplatform title sold higher on console version than PC, that's why Rockstar didn't make RDR and GTA V PC version If PC all we have, then developers will think twice to make high-budget game because it will less profitable to only release game on PC

Steam says hello. Plus devs make more money out of PC gaming compared to consoles. Also, where is your proof about the PC version of GTA5?

No they don't, you've gotta admit some multiplatform titles sells better on PS360 than PC

Rockstar still hasn't confirmed that they making the PC version, so where's your proof that there's GTA V PC version? Although if there is, it'll be released on 2014 after the PS360 versions

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#13 TheRealBigRich
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Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

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This Also don't think that if Sony believed that it DRM would work that they wouldn't implement it as they also said they would not charge for playing multiplayer games online as well. Lets say in 10 years they want to make a new console and wanted to put DRM in the new xbox and received the same backlash why would they go through with it if they didn't this time.
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#14 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]There is always PC gaming. ihsanqueen
The sad truth about PC gaming is although it's the best for gamers, it's not the best for developers because of the piracy Many multiplatform title sold higher on console version than PC, that's why Rockstar didn't make RDR and GTA V PC version If PC all we have, then developers will think twice to make high-budget game because it will less profitable to only release game on PC

You're basing your argument on RDR, s single game?

I say single because GTA V will come to the PC, like all the previous GTA games... and before you start with claims like "RDR proves R* doesn't care about the PC", I'll remind you of LA Noire and Max Payne 3, two recent R* games which both came to the PC.

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#15 ihsanqueen
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[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

Bigboi500

I don't mean if PS4 win then Nintendo and MS will bankrupt for god's sake... Do you like the direction gaming world take after the Wii won? Casual games and motion sensor everywhere

The casual revolution started with PSone. Blame Sony for that trend.

No, although PSone get many casual games they still got Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Chrono Cross, etc. Wii on the other hand while got some amazing exclusives such as SMG, LoZ:SS, all the other games are just casual garbages such as Wii Fit, Babysitter XXXXX, Pony XXXXX, Family XXXXX etc
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#16 jun_aka_pekto
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The gaming world will survive regardless. Many people just want to play games, DRM or no DRM and used games or no used games.

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#18 SecretPolice
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Redonkulous...

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#19 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"] I don't mean if PS4 win then Nintendo and MS will bankrupt for god's sake... Do you like the direction gaming world take after the Wii won? Casual games and motion sensor everywhereihsanqueen

The casual revolution started with PSone. Blame Sony for that trend.

No, although PSone get many casual games they still got Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, Chrono Cross, etc. Wii on the other hand while got some amazing exclusives such as SMG, LoZ:SS, all the other games are just casual garbages such as Wii Fit, Babysitter XXXXX, Pony XXXXX, Family XXXXX etc

"all other games.." what are you talking about? There are lots of great Wii games, besides all the shovelware and other than first party titles. Do you even own a Wii?

The fact remains that Sony, not Nintendo, started the casual game surge.

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#21 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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ITT: TC is full of shit

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#22 James161324
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Nope, but i highly doubt we will have another gen of consoles anyway 

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Plus devs make more money out of PC gaming compared to consoles.clyde46

Prove it

Besides a couple of franchises thats bullsh!t. Everyone knows consoles is where the money is at. You barelly see any dev market their PC version of a multiplat to the public, even if its the better version

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#24 Far_RockNYC
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Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

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#25 kuraimen
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Lems will no doubt try to destroy gaming since they care more about m$ than gaming. So remember to expose them for the filthy scum they are.
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#26 James161324
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Plus devs make more money out of PC gaming compared to consoles.Vatusus

Prove it

Besides a couple of franchises thats bullsh!t. Everyone knows consoles is where the money is at. You barelly see any dev market their PC version to the public, even if its the better version

They don't need to market their games on pc. Pc gamers are informed gamers, with consoles you have to blow millions on ads for most of the causuals to know whats up. I think he is refering to profit margins. The margins on pc crap all over the margins on consoles. 

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#27 tdkmillsy
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Don't talk tosh, Digital content is the future, (as it is for movies and music now), Microsoft jumped the gun but in next gen digital downloads will be the normal way of getting games and DRM will be in place already (as it is now for Digital games). Microsoft will then introduce the cool features they tried to do this time and Sony will copy.
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#28 Douevenlift_bro
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This is true and thus, SDC.

Ps4 will win

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[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

Bigboi500

I don't mean if PS4 win then Nintendo and MS will bankrupt for god's sake... Do you like the direction gaming world take after the Wii won? Casual games and motion sensor everywhere

The casual revolution started with PSone. Blame Sony for that trend.

Eh.. No.

Nintendo has been casual long before there was Playstation dammit. Playstation actually made it cool to game, Nintendo was that thing you bought your kids.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"] I don't mean if PS4 win then Nintendo and MS will bankrupt for god's sake... Do you like the direction gaming world take after the Wii won? Casual games and motion sensor everywhereDouevenlift_bro

The casual revolution started with PSone. Blame Sony for that trend.

Eh.. No.

Nintendo has been casual long before there was Playstation dammit. Playstation actually made it cool to game, Nintendo was that thing you bought your kids.

No.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Plus devs make more money out of PC gaming compared to consoles.Vatusus

Prove it

Besides a couple of franchises thats bullsh!t. Everyone knows consoles is where the money is at. You barelly see any dev market their PC version of a multiplat to the public, even if its the better version

Developers get more money on PC per each copy sold unlike on consoles in which they must give part of the money to the retailer, the console manufacturer and other costs like transport. Example, for each game EA sells in Origin they get 100% profit there.
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#32 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Yeah no.. For gaming to survive you want no clear winner.. You want as much competition as possible.. I find it pretty amusing that your this ignorant to think that Sony or any of the big companies would not use DRM and numerous other things if they could.. They would..
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#34 YearoftheSnake5
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near-PC-experience on console anymore

ihsanqueen

I stopped at this. If you want a PC experience, get a damn PC rather than some watered down console imitation.

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#35 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"] I don't mean if PS4 win then Nintendo and MS will bankrupt for god's sake... Do you like the direction gaming world take after the Wii won? Casual games and motion sensor everywhereDouevenlift_bro

The casual revolution started with PSone. Blame Sony for that trend.

Eh.. No.

Nintendo has been casual long before there was Playstation dammit. Playstation actually made it cool to game, Nintendo was that thing you bought your kids.

Your discriptions of "cool" and "kiddie" have nothing to do with what is casual and core, but more to do with your biased pre-conceptions as a biased fanboy.

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#36 insanegame377
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Wii-U will have had a year's head start by the time PS4 and Xbox One launch but is currently flopping, so can't see it making much of an impact on the next generation. That would make it a clear battle between Sony and Microsoft for superemacy, this generation saw no clear winner between 360 and PS3 and next generation could quite easily be the same. Xbox has it's hardcore fans that will stay loyal to the console but then so does Playstation,.It's all going to be a matter of which console's exclusives you prefer, and whether Microsoft's new features for the Xbox One appeal to you. I don't see it as PS4 having to win the console war for gaming to survive personally, and in fact it's probably better if there isn't a clear winner, otherwise all the consoles could potentially just become clones of one other. It's better to have a range of consoles that appeal to different audiences.
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Plus devs make more money out of PC gaming compared to consoles.James161324

Prove it

Besides a couple of franchises thats bullsh!t. Everyone knows consoles is where the money is at. You barelly see any dev market their PC version to the public, even if its the better version

They don't need to market their games on pc. Pc gamers are informed gamers, with consoles you have to blow millions on ads for most of the causuals to know whats up. I think he is refering to profit margins. The margins on pc crap all over the margins on consoles.

^

This. I was going to respond but you pretty much stated word for word what I was going to.

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#38 clr84651
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There is always PC gaming. clyde46

What gamers need is PlayStations & PC.

Nintendo & MS are crappy for different reasons.They are bad for the console gamers. 

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Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

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Wii didn't win this gen, Genius. come out of that stupid pretentious dimension where people still pretend nintendo is relevant.
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#40 Miroku32
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]There is always PC gaming. clr84651

What gamers need is PlayStations & PC.

Nintendo & MS are crappy for different reasons.They are bad for the console gamers. 

Nintendo exclusives are way better than Sony's exclusives.
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#41 gago-gago
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Nope, Sony gaming products failed before and gaming is still fine.
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#42 messedupworld
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Gaming would stagnate.
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#43 Michael0134567
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Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

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Yup.
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#44 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Wii won this gen, yet PS4 and Xbox One still exist. Thread fail/

wasted_wiisdom

Wii didn't win this gen, Genius. come out of that stupid pretentious dimension where people still pretend nintendo is relevant.

This is the first generation in a long time I've ever seen someone claim that a platform "didn't win" when it has the largest installed base by a landslide. Wii did win...

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#45 Rage010101
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Thread creator is full of horseshit.  Only one platform that is stable and works regardless of how the consoles are failing... PC sends its regards.

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#46 j_assassin
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if sony playstation fails, I'll game on pc.... unless m$ change its ways and focus more on games of different varieties , and if they produce more quality games not just shooters and online shooters
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#47 Puckhog04
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Thread creator is full of horseshit. Only one platform that is stable and works regardless of how the consoles are failing... PC sends its regards.

Rage010101

;)

You damn skippy.

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#48 AD216
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sony needs this gen because if they dnt, they may go bankrupt. that's why they r running through hoops right now.

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if Nintendo WiiU won the console war, then there's high probability thatnext gen Nintendo will use shitty-spec for their console and then we won't get near-PC-experience on console anymoreihsanqueen
Chances are, Nintendo won't make their next console too powerfule either way, because hell, why would they. Oh, and the Wii outsold the 360 and the PS3 by a massive margin this gen, but the PS4 and the Xbox One are still using pretty high specs. That's some questionable logic you've used there.
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#50 AmazonTreeBoa
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I really see this next gen as my last gen with consoles. I believe after this coming gen, I will stick to just PC and not bother with buying a console to go with it. So really, I couldn't care less who wins. They all lost in my book because they lost my interest in dealing with the shit storm that will be coming after this coming gen is over and the next after it starts.