**PS4 Sales Surpass 70.6M units, PSVR over 2M** (Haters am cry)

SAN MATEO, Calif., December 7, 2017 – Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) today announced new sales milestones for PlayStation®4 (PS4™) computer entertainment system, PlayStation®VR (PS VR) virtual reality system, and PS4 and PS VR games.

• PS4 has cumulatively sold through more than 70.6M units to consumers worldwide as of December 3, 2017*1.
• More than 617.8 million copies*2 of PS4 games have been sold at retail stores globally and through digital downloads on PlayStation®Store as of December 3, 2017.
• Based on strong momentum of PS4, PS VR cumulatively sold through more than 2M units to consumers worldwide as of December 3, 2017*1.
• 150 titles have been released for PS VR*3, achieving more than 12.2 million copies sold at retail stores globally and through digital downloads on PlayStation Store as of December 3, 2017.

http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2017/171207.html

?? PS4 is a beast!! Amazing sales for PSVR as well, look at that attach rate for PSVR games.

"b....bu.....bu.....but le Kinect!!!1".

One things for certain..... There's a whole lotta buyers remorse going on out there. lol :P

Yup, I feel bad for people that bought an Xbone this Xmas.

:( No games.

wooot wooot

Best console this gen hands down

congrats to Sony on sales, but is 3% of install base buying VR really that good?

@tdkmillsy: when you consider the price yea its good and still gradually headed upwards.

Imagine the kinect starting at 400 cash.

It is when you consider PSVR is a $400 peripheral. When was the last time a $400 peripheral sold this much?

So PS4 sold more than the Switch this year? I'm impress!

Welp seems like Xbox has no chance of catching up this gen

And they never will.

This gen belongs to both PS4 & Switch alone.

The Kinect comparisons are apt. Kinect was wildly successful. Support just fell off the planet when all the hype died out. That's the strange thing about the Kinect. Or maybe not, I mean MS did put the thing in the Xbox one at launch. They didn't realize that Kinect was a nice option for those who wanted it, just not something people would pay a premium for in the box.

So in other words, PSVR should never be bundled with a PlayStation system for an inflated price. If they can manage that, then PSVR will be just fine.

Edited

@indzman: Show off!

Sounds like good damage control for their 3rd place November NPD finish!

I don't even got GTX 1080 ti , nor can ever afford one :(

That's flat out amazing and one hell of a turnaround. They know their fan-base well

Me too. They sold 20.6 million units since this time last year and 10 million since June.

It's selling like hotcakes. Xbone doesn't stand a chance in hell of ever catching up.

The console war is effectively over (more like a console beatdown actually lol)

Just because I now have a 1080ti, doesn't mean I look down on everyone who has low tier GPU. You're 1050Ti is a good card for what it does and offers. Hell, I'm considering getting one of those for my Daughter's PC.

I'm nothing before you and its the truth. And you are Humble and kind. ^_^

Nvidia master race :D

It goes to show you exclusive games is a big deal, always has, always will be. MS was too far off going for power over exclusive games just proves it that even the weaker Switch can surpass Xbox One when we all know Switch has quality exclusive and MS hardly and I mean hardly has any. (if ever)

D is a master Himself :)

Well said, I agree. What doomed Kinect on Xbone was when MS decided to force it on every Xbone buyer. I'm sure it would have been more successful if it was an option from day one.

Despite all this you'll still see lems saying exclusives don't matter. The only console getting its ass handed to it also happens to be the console without exclusives and lems still won't admit this fact to themselves lol.

You think XBox outsold PS in November? I'm curious as to why. Considering PS clocked in its best Black Friday on record, in order for your belief to bear out MS likely would have had to have an even better BF than Sony's all time best... and likely a better rest of the month as well. Seems like wishful thinking

MS stop reporting there sales numbers like years ago. Who knows how many Xbox One were sold at this point.

I really want MS to do well next year, show us something new IP exclusive games is what I'm rooting for MS. (Unlike Lems here, I for one like to see MS do better, but this is wishful thinking)

Considering it's technology that:

1) Is in it's first generation as a product while PS4/XBox One are in their 8th and Switch might be considered 9th gen

2) Requires a PS4 of some kind to actually use, ie a buy in for a buy in

3) It's a technology that must be used to realize how amazing it is as someone who recently bought it

4) Doesn't have full support yet in the way of say a PS4 did

5) The hate for Playstation peripherals that people have

6) Most console gamers are fifa/madden/cod users.

Yes, it's selling very well, over Sony's expectations by a lot, sold out during black friday, is by far the best selling premium vr machine (competition is oculus and vive), skyrim sold very well, etc etc. The attach rate I feel is pretty strong on the VR headsets as well I imagine. Anyway it seems that bigger devs are interested, the last show (was it paris games week?) had a lot of psvr showcase, almost as much as ps4 stuff, apparently psvr will have a decent presence at psx, including 2 classified as legendary game creators talking on I believe the 9th about the issues and benefits to VR or whatever. (death stranding might be a psvr title considering kojima has shown interest in vr or it could be other people as well) Either way, it seems that it's a huge unknown game that we'll probably find out about on the 8th and they'll discuss it on the 9th and about PSVR in general. I'm expecting some big reveals for psvr at psx, and at the worst they'll have a good showing of new games, but even if they revealed nothing the future lineup for psvr actually is pretty good already.

But yeah as a general note, you'll realize that VR is literally the future of games (traditional tv gaming will co-exist), it's literally amazing. Motion controls and stuff like kinect have been gimmicks, same with playstation move, however move controls with vr is just a perfect combination, I can't tell you how immersive VR is. Like you put on the headset and you expect tvs and stuff and to turn around to look at things maybe, but VR does way more than head tracking like tilting your head to dodge a fireball/arrow, painball (rec room), it also has a sense of scale, depth of objects, etc etc, all I can say to describe it is that it feels like you're actually in the video game and I'm not joking. It's actually super godly amazing technology.

So the PSVR number includes digital downloads, does that include games given out with PS+?

Almost as many as PS3 or 360 in half the time. Totally deserved, this has been a fantastic generation!

I doubt it. PS+ has been extremely stingy this year with PSVR games, we've only gotten a handful of worthwhile games and even then they were games that were already cheap. We haven't gotten any full priced AAA PSVR game yet through PS+.

@quadknight said:

@tdkmillsy said:

congrats to Sony on sales, but is 3% of install base buying VR really that good?

It is when you consider PSVR is a $400 peripheral. When was the last time a $400 peripheral sold this much?

@Vatusus said:

Best console this gen hands down

I cant name a $400 peripheral to a console besides the PSVR.

@tdkmillsy said:

@quadknight said:

@tdkmillsy said:

congrats to Sony on sales, but is 3% of install base buying VR really that good?

It is when you consider PSVR is a $400 peripheral. When was the last time a $400 peripheral sold this much?

@Vatusus said:

Best console this gen hands down

I cant name a $400 peripheral to a console besides the PSVR.

Not in to racing games are you......

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Im sorry I just don't see how 2 million in sales for the PSVR is really that good. You can say what you want to say, but that number is not impressive to me for something that has been on the market for 14 months. Right at 3% of the player base has a PSVR that is not going to make game makers excited enough for the product to make games for it and that could really hurt the PSVR in the long run.

Even though I would never purchase any of the VR that is currently on the market. I do hope the product is successful enough to where we get new hardware being made. I will purchase the product when it is wireless, no SDE, higher resolution, and the product is a lot smaller. I have had the PSVR in my cart many time I just can't make myself purchase it. I really want to wait for 2nd or 3rd generation of VR.

I am rooting for the product only because it will help drive the market to make better VR hardware.

I'm assuming PS4 is last.

Sony didn't specify where the had their best black friday (just worldwide and UK and Spain had beasted for examples ) , and they didn't specify units sold either. So they may be including everything (gross on hardware , PSVR , accessories , PSN subs , etc) Take that PR with a grain of salt.

• The PS4 and Pro didn't get a $50 pricedrop for the month :(
• HZD wasn't a free pack in to go along with a $50 pricedrop :(
• The barebone 199 PS4's went quick , and there was little restock :(
• I don't think the Call of Duty and Battlefront II bundles did that well :(
• Switch is hot and was pretty well stocked all month
• Xbone X did really well (the thirst was real) , and Xbone S at 189 (slower than 199 ps4) , but they had the stock to make up for it.

I think Sony dropped the ball on numerous things.

But, what about the important numbers? Like, number of bullets fired in Uncharted online?

Best selling console, but far from the best!

The only people who don't currently own a PS4 are the ones who generally wait for the price to go crazy low before they get one or people getting it for a second system.

Everyone who wanted a PS4 has one now so I do naturally expect the rate of sales to start dropping.

Exactly this. Cows keep touting that "$400 peripheral" bullshit line but all the devs care about is the bottom line, how many sold in total. That 3% is only going to get smaller as the PS4 user base continues to increase as it outsells the PSVR each month.

Miss Nyadc in these threads :)

Oh I agree that Switch won the month. But how do you know the X1X did really well, and why do you think the X1S, at only $10 cheaper, outsold the PS4 when it almost never does even though it is already cheaper on a normal day...

*edit* also, Sony explicitly stated "We sold more consoles than we ever have in our 23 year history" - so while it may be true that the other goodies contributed to it being a red letter day for the PS brand, we know the consoles, specifically (of which there are only 2 on the market - PS4 and PS4 Pro) had their best BF.

Sure sounds like you are discounting what we do know about PS, and imagining what you'd like to know from nothing about the XBox brand...

@kingtito: you seem angry about the PSVR success. Are you angry because you’ve been backing a losing horse for 4 years?

I'm assuming Xbone X did well based on pre-orders , heavy marketing , trade ins , good reviews /word of mouth / hype. Microsoft and its biggest fans are almost treating it like a next gen system. And the 189 Xbone wouldn't necessarily have to beat 199 ps4's to win overall , just be competitive. I'm assuming that it was factoring in the 199 PS4 shortages.

I could be wrong though. It would be funny if PS4 beat Xbone .I hope it happens. We might know tonight.

@Nike_Air: true enough. I think/hope they all sold really well. I think if the X1X flops, the XBox console line is in serious trouble - and it's such a slick piece of hardware that I think it deserves to do well for fans of what the platform offers

Oh he's here. He's just doing his very best to not get caught with his own meltdowns that will give him away lol.

Can't say I blame him.

BTW I forgot to say that this is kick ass news for gamers! Way to go Sony!

Pointing out facts and history is angry? How so? PSVR isn't a success....yet. It will have to sell a lot more and get it's user base a lot higher than 3%.

Considering we might not see a ps5 until 2019-2020 (hopefully), Sony might reach Wii or Ps1 level of sales. That's amazing.

Since first Xbox, sales in US were around 60% of total Xbox sales. Same was for X360, you can bet it's now for Xbone. Xbone is around 18 mil. in US right now.

That's his secret...