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#1  Edited By Legend002
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Amazon.com(direct link to deal)

Buy the PlayStation 4 Bloodborne Bundle and get a $20 Amazon.com gift card. Credit will be applied to your account within two days of your completed shipment. Here's how (restrictions apply)

Promotional credit expires 5/16/2015

Buy PlayStation 4 and get a free digital code for The Last of Us Remastered. Here's how (restrictions apply)

Sony answer to the sad MCC offer? Best PS4 deal to date? Amazon insane?

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Buying it tomorrow. Thanks. It's called a Capture Card for PC right?

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OH NOES!!!! TEH PS4 MUST BE DESPERATE!!!! PC HAS BIGGER BASE/BETTER GRAPHICS/MORE EXCLOOSIVES/BACKWARDS COMPATABILITY!!! OH NOES!!!!!

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Holy ****, I hope we get many more Bloodborne fans this way.

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#6 ProtossX
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Bloodborne is shiznit

it just got 9.1 on ign the review looked sexy as hell the game sells itself this deal is the shiz nit

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#7 Extrodinare101
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Alright, now THIS is a damn good deal.

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#8  Edited By Extrodinare101
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I was going to buy a PS2 slim but then they dangle this f*cker in front of me.

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#9 lostrib
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Meh

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This was already posted.

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#11  Edited By SolidTy
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That's a decent deal.

You get $20 giftcard, The Last Of Us, Bloodborne, and a PS4 for $399.

Surprised Bloodborne is included already. I've seen PS4's new come with a game and controller for $399, but the $20 GC and Bloodborne good for those that waited.

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I have the money to buy it right now but with the raise of tax coming in the next couple of months, + just last week I changed the tires of my car and the people at the garage told me I need to change the rims too since they are about to break... I better start saving up because this is gonna be a rough year. ;(

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#13 Legend002
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@wolverine4262: Pretty sure that was the okay $435 deal without the $20GC.

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That's even better than the GTA bundle from BF. Not bad.

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#15 Zero_epyon
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Ok this is curious. If this is a Sony deal, why are they being so aggressive? Not that I'm complaining, the deal is decent.

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#16  Edited By finalstar2007
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amazon.ca has a PS4 TLOU for $399.99 seriously Canadians buy it! ( normal price is $450 )

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@cainetao11 said:

OH NOES!!!! TEH PS4 MUST BE DESPERATE!!!! PC HAS BIGGER BASE/BETTER GRAPHICS/MORE EXCLOOSIVES/BACKWARDS COMPATABILITY!!! OH NOES!!!!!

The PS4 doesn't compete with PC it does so vs the xbox one and wii u which is killing sales wise nice spin.

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@tormentos said:

@cainetao11 said:

OH NOES!!!! TEH PS4 MUST BE DESPERATE!!!! PC HAS BIGGER BASE/BETTER GRAPHICS/MORE EXCLOOSIVES/BACKWARDS COMPATABILITY!!! OH NOES!!!!!

The PS4 doesn't compete with PC it does so vs the xbox one and wii u which is killing sales wise nice spin.

Believe it or not I was making fun of people ripping on the PS4. And I am sorry to tell you, it does compete with PC. People decide what they are spending their money on and the choices are handhelds, consoles or PC gaming. You don't decide the economical market for the world fella.

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Believe it or not I was making fun of people ripping on the PS4. And I am sorry to tell you, it does compete with PC. People decide what they are spending their money on and the choices are handhelds, consoles or PC gaming. You don't decide the economical market for the world fella.

And thank god for that, because it would be really difficult to read

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Decent deal. I certainly expect a price drop at E3 though. This is good though if you must have Bloodborne immediately.

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@lostrib said:
@cainetao11 said:

Believe it or not I was making fun of people ripping on the PS4. And I am sorry to tell you, it does compete with PC. People decide what they are spending their money on and the choices are handhelds, consoles or PC gaming. You don't decide the economical market for the world fella.

And thank god for that, because it would be really difficult to read

LOL right?

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Sales for Bloodborne must be pretty slow for it already to be making it into pack-ins.

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@cainetao11 said:

Believe it or not I was making fun of people ripping on the PS4. And I am sorry to tell you, it does compete with PC. People decide what they are spending their money on and the choices are handhelds, consoles or PC gaming. You don't decide the economical market for the world fella.

Total and utter bullshit..

Winner of the last 5 gens...

Wii

PS2

PS1

Snes

Nes..

Now in which of this did PC was actually mention as the winner of the generation.?

Your bullshit it out of this planet,PC is PC it compete with the likes or Mac which totally destroy but with consoles no it doesn't and they are 2 separate markets which co exist and always will.

In fact Generations before the PS1 weren't even 100 million big,and this last one was the biggest of all generations.

260+ million consoles vs 200 consoles the gen before.

I don't but you don't either and those market are as different as they can be,hell most gamestop,walmart and walk in game stores don't even have PC games or have very few is all about consoles and portable and they don't sell PC either aside from walmart and a few others.

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Sales for Bloodborne must be pretty slow for it already to be making it into pack-ins.

I don't know but on amazon is on spot 3 and has been there for some days now in the top 5.

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#24  Edited By princeofshapeir
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@foxhound_fox said:

Sales for Bloodborne must be pretty slow for it already to be making it into pack-ins.

Not necessarily, Sony did this for many recent exclusives and multiplats

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#25  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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God damn, that's a good deal. Jump on it, guys.

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@tormentos said:

@cainetao11 said:

Believe it or not I was making fun of people ripping on the PS4. And I am sorry to tell you, it does compete with PC. People decide what they are spending their money on and the choices are handhelds, consoles or PC gaming. You don't decide the economical market for the world fella.

Total and utter bullshit..

Winner of the last 5 gens...

Wii

PS2

PS1

Snes

Nes..

Now in which of this did PC was actually mention as the winner of the generation.?

Your bullshit it out of this planet,PC is PC it compete with the likes or Mac which totally destroy but with consoles no it doesn't and they are 2 separate markets which co exist and always will.

In fact Generations before the PS1 weren't even 100 million big,and this last one was the biggest of all generations.

260+ million consoles vs 200 consoles the gen before.

I don't but you don't either and those market are as different as they can be,hell most gamestop,walmart and walk in game stores don't even have PC games or have very few is all about consoles and portable and they don't sell PC either aside from walmart and a few others.

@foxhound_fox said:

Sales for Bloodborne must be pretty slow for it already to be making it into pack-ins.

I don't know but on amazon is on spot 3 and has been there for some days now in the top 5.

"Total Bullshit"? So you, tormentos get to make the rules as to what products are in competition in the free market system? I want links as proof that Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen gave you this power as a US citizen. As for the foreign markets, any and all links to proof of your powers there as well.

You are full of shit. You don't get to decide this and this is SYSTEM WARS and all are in competition here any way. That was decided long before you or I came here. You really live this console wars shit, don't you? You take it that seriously? I never attacked your precious PS or Sony. But you are on the defense immediately.

Again, when a person is deciding where they want to spend their OWN, not yours, their gaming money, they have a multitude of choices that are vying for that money. PC is one of them. That is how free, open market system works. YOU are not the boss of that in reality or on this board.

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#27 tormentos
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@cainetao11 said:

"Total Bullshit"? So you, tormentos get to make the rules as to what products are in competition in the free market system? I want links as proof that Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen gave you this power as a US citizen. As for the foreign markets, any and all links to proof of your powers there as well.

You are full of shit. You don't get to decide this and this is SYSTEM WARS and all are in competition here any way. That was decided long before you or I came here. You really live this console wars shit, don't you? You take it that seriously? I never attacked your precious PS or Sony. But you are on the defense immediately.

Again, when a person is deciding where they want to spend their OWN, not yours, their gaming money, they have a multitude of choices that are vying for that money. PC is one of them. That is how free, open market system works. YOU are not the boss of that in reality or on this board.

NO I didn't make it..They were already make.

Trying to imply that PC compete with consoles is a joke they don't and regardless of what PC sells consoles will always sell.

They are a different demographic,i know i have been a PC gamer for years and before that i was a Mac gamer to,while also been a console gamer.

They don't compete and the fact that last gen the wii won not PC,and the gen before that the PS2 won not PC and the gen before that the PS1 says it all,and this gen the PS4 is winning,trying to hide on PC to defend the crappy xbox one is a joke last gen when the 360 was beating the PS3 you didn't claim PC was winning.

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#28  Edited By cainetao11
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@tormentos said:

@cainetao11 said:

"Total Bullshit"? So you, tormentos get to make the rules as to what products are in competition in the free market system? I want links as proof that Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen gave you this power as a US citizen. As for the foreign markets, any and all links to proof of your powers there as well.

You are full of shit. You don't get to decide this and this is SYSTEM WARS and all are in competition here any way. That was decided long before you or I came here. You really live this console wars shit, don't you? You take it that seriously? I never attacked your precious PS or Sony. But you are on the defense immediately.

Again, when a person is deciding where they want to spend their OWN, not yours, their gaming money, they have a multitude of choices that are vying for that money. PC is one of them. That is how free, open market system works. YOU are not the boss of that in reality or on this board.

NO I didn't make it..They were already make.

Trying to imply that PC compete with consoles is a joke they don't and regardless of what PC sells consoles will always sell.

They are a different demographic,i know i have been a PC gamer for years and before that i was a Mac gamer to,while also been a console gamer.

They don't compete and the fact that last gen the wii won not PC,and the gen before that the PS2 won not PC and the gen before that the PS1 says it all,and this gen the PS4 is winning,trying to hide on PC to defend the crappy xbox one is a joke last gen when the 360 was beating the PS3 you didn't claim PC was winning.

LOL nope. Just because I cant buy a Chrysler at a Mercedes dealership doesn't mean they aren't competing for consumer dollars. Fail at business 101. I should know. I have been gaming since 1970s, on anything, ran my own business once. To pretend PC isn't in the game is the joke.

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#29  Edited By soulitane
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@tormentos said:

@cainetao11 said:

"Total Bullshit"? So you, tormentos get to make the rules as to what products are in competition in the free market system? I want links as proof that Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen gave you this power as a US citizen. As for the foreign markets, any and all links to proof of your powers there as well.

You are full of shit. You don't get to decide this and this is SYSTEM WARS and all are in competition here any way. That was decided long before you or I came here. You really live this console wars shit, don't you? You take it that seriously? I never attacked your precious PS or Sony. But you are on the defense immediately.

Again, when a person is deciding where they want to spend their OWN, not yours, their gaming money, they have a multitude of choices that are vying for that money. PC is one of them. That is how free, open market system works. YOU are not the boss of that in reality or on this board.

NO I didn't make it..They were already make.

Trying to imply that PC compete with consoles is a joke they don't and regardless of what PC sells consoles will always sell.

They are a different demographic,i know i have been a PC gamer for years and before that i was a Mac gamer to,while also been a console gamer.

They don't compete and the fact that last gen the wii won not PC,and the gen before that the PS2 won not PC and the gen before that the PS1 says it all,and this gen the PS4 is winning,trying to hide on PC to defend the crappy xbox one is a joke last gen when the 360 was beating the PS3 you didn't claim PC was winning.

They don't compete in which way? I'm currently considering whether or not I should buy a computer for work purposes + PS4 or whether I should spend the extra money and get a decent gaming PC. Thus a PC and PS4 are competing for my money. I know that's anecdotal evidence, but you'd be a fool to think that a lot of people haven't chosen between PC gaming hardware and a console.

This is becoming more apparent with most games also coming to PC as well as consoles and a lot of people gaming on their laptops. The demographic is becoming quite similar especially with the variety of games on PC. This isn't the 80's or 90's anymore when PC games were very distinct from console games, they are pretty much blurring together these days. You can ignore that all you want, but these markets are in competition for consumer's money.

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#30  Edited By cainetao11
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@soulitane said:

@tormentos said:

@cainetao11 said:

"Total Bullshit"? So you, tormentos get to make the rules as to what products are in competition in the free market system? I want links as proof that Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen gave you this power as a US citizen. As for the foreign markets, any and all links to proof of your powers there as well.

You are full of shit. You don't get to decide this and this is SYSTEM WARS and all are in competition here any way. That was decided long before you or I came here. You really live this console wars shit, don't you? You take it that seriously? I never attacked your precious PS or Sony. But you are on the defense immediately.

Again, when a person is deciding where they want to spend their OWN, not yours, their gaming money, they have a multitude of choices that are vying for that money. PC is one of them. That is how free, open market system works. YOU are not the boss of that in reality or on this board.

NO I didn't make it..They were already make.

Trying to imply that PC compete with consoles is a joke they don't and regardless of what PC sells consoles will always sell.

They are a different demographic,i know i have been a PC gamer for years and before that i was a Mac gamer to,while also been a console gamer.

They don't compete and the fact that last gen the wii won not PC,and the gen before that the PS2 won not PC and the gen before that the PS1 says it all,and this gen the PS4 is winning,trying to hide on PC to defend the crappy xbox one is a joke last gen when the 360 was beating the PS3 you didn't claim PC was winning.

They don't compete in which way? I'm currently considering whether or not I should buy a computer for work purposes + PS4 or whether I should spend the extra money and get a decent gaming PC. Thus a PC and PS4 are competing for my money. I know that's anecdotal evidence, but you'd be a fool to think that a lot of people haven't chosen between PC gaming hardware and a console.

This is becoming more apparent with most games also coming to PC as well as consoles and a lot of people gaming on their laptops. The demographic is becoming quite similar especially with the variety of games on PC. This isn't the 80's or 90's anymore when PC games were very distinct from console games, they are pretty much blurring together these days. You can ignore that all you want, but these markets are in competition for consumer's money.

They are. Well said

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PCs are a part of system wars. Nothing changes that, sorry.

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@cainetao11 said:

LOL nope. Just because I cant buy a Chrysler at a Mercedes dealership doesn't mean they aren't competing for consumer dollars. Fail at business 101. I should know. I have been gaming since 1970s, on anything, ran my own business once. To pretend PC isn't in the game is the joke.

I don't care about your stupid analogy,you are not buying a Chrysler in a Mercedes dealership,you are comparing a boat with a Jet Sky both have their user base and both have they different markets.

Just like Bikes and Cars.

PC is doesn't compete with consoles your comment was stupid and like always you are just trying to defend the crappy xbox one.

Call me when PC is declare the winner of a console generation.lol

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They don't compete in which way? I'm currently considering whether or not I should buy a computer for work purposes + PS4 or whether I should spend the extra money and get a decent gaming PC. Thus a PC and PS4 are competing for my money. I know that's anecdotal evidence, but you'd be a fool to think that a lot of people haven't chosen between PC gaming hardware and a console.

This is becoming more apparent with most games also coming to PC as well as consoles and a lot of people gaming on their laptops. The demographic is becoming quite similar especially with the variety of games on PC. This isn't the 80's or 90's anymore when PC games were very distinct from console games, they are pretty much blurring together these days. You can ignore that all you want, but these markets are in competition for consumer's money.

NO they are not you are using a lame example.

This is plain and simple you need a PC for working,a PS4 will not help you with that,a gaming PC will because on a gaming PC you can work and play games as well,so your argument is quite stupid just because you think about what to do doesn't mean the 2 compete because regardless of you getting a PC or a PC+ PS4 you still getting a damn PC man.

So no matter if you drop the PS4 or not you still getting a PC how is that competing when the PC is on your list one way or the other.

Competing is when you have to leave one to get the other,a gaming PC work with both cases a PC + a PS4 would be a little bit redundant even more if you are not much into exclusives.

Hell you can get a PC for working and a PS4,and add a GPU latter one and you also have a gaming PC.

So i want am turn between a Galasy S 6 and a iphone 6 + yeah those 2 compete.

Yeah it shows that is why almost all games on both platforms sell better on consoles and not PC.

PC is a separate market and it has always been stop pretending.

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AKA the Xbone killer. RIP.

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AKA the Xbone killer. RIP.

Is on spot 2 on amazon best selling games quite shocking,apparently the game lemmings claims was niche apparently is selling good.

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#35  Edited By soulitane
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@tormentos said:

@soulitane said:

They don't compete in which way? I'm currently considering whether or not I should buy a computer for work purposes + PS4 or whether I should spend the extra money and get a decent gaming PC. Thus a PC and PS4 are competing for my money. I know that's anecdotal evidence, but you'd be a fool to think that a lot of people haven't chosen between PC gaming hardware and a console.

This is becoming more apparent with most games also coming to PC as well as consoles and a lot of people gaming on their laptops. The demographic is becoming quite similar especially with the variety of games on PC. This isn't the 80's or 90's anymore when PC games were very distinct from console games, they are pretty much blurring together these days. You can ignore that all you want, but these markets are in competition for consumer's money.

NO they are not you are using a lame example.

Please explain in depth how it is lame

This is plain and simple you need a PC for working,a PS4 will not help you with that,a gaming PC will because on a gaming PC you can work and play games as well,so your argument is quite stupid just because you think about what to do doesn't mean the 2 compete because regardless of you getting a PC or a PC+ PS4 you still getting a damn PC man.

I'll be getting a PC either way. My decision relates to which system I want to play games on. If I spend more money on my PC, I can play games on it, or if I spend my money on a PS4, I'll play games on that. To make it more clear for you, those two systems are competing for my gaming money. I didn't think that was a particularly difficult concept but I guess I was proven wrong.

So no matter if you drop the PS4 or not you still getting a PC how is that competing when the PC is on your list one way or the other.

The competition lies in the system I'll be playing games on. It's not a very hard concept, mull over it for a little while.

Competing is when you have to leave one to get the other,a gaming PC work with both cases a PC + a PS4 would be a little bit redundant even more if you are not much into exclusives.

In a business sense that is not all competition is. Competition is anything which can steal customers away from you. People choose between consoles and PC for their gaming needs, hence they're in competition.

Hell you can get a PC for working and a PS4,and add a GPU latter one and you also have a gaming PC.

I can also choose to get a GPU now and get a PS4 later. I don't see what that has to do with my point.

So i want am turn between a Galasy S 6 and a iphone 6 + yeah those 2 compete.

Good on you, you worked that out, I'm proud of you.

Yeah it shows that is why almost all games on both platforms sell better on consoles and not PC.

That has absolutely nothing to do with anything in this conversation. To use your phone analogy. Sony phones sell a lot less than iPhones and Samsung phones, yet they are still in competition.

PC is a separate market and it has always been stop pretending.

A separate market with overlap in terms of gaming.

You don't know much about business do you? Competition is anything that can be used to substitute your own product. Meaning, I can get a gaming PC and get the same or similar experience to a PS4 or Xbox One, i.e. I can play games. In a business sense that is competition and you'd be an idiot to ignore that.

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#36 finalstar2007
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@tormentos said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

AKA the Xbone killer. RIP.

Is on spot 2 on amazon best selling games quite shocking,apparently the game lemmings claims was niche apparently is selling good.

amazon.com

Amazon Canada

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@soulitane:

PC(the term does not even work here) is striving to compete with consoles, but until there is a complete product on the shelf it is not directly competing. The closest real life competition would actually be AMD or Nvidia as there is some form of brand. However, buying into those brands brings up a complexity level for general consumer.

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#38 tormentos
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@finalstar2007 said:

amazon.com

Amazon Canada

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-PC-Video-Games/zgbs/videogames

In UK is even worse... Bloodborn spot 1

The PS4 is on spot 36 the xbox one on spot 73...

Even that the PS4 is 42 pounds more expensive than the xbox one,worse even the GTA bundle is on spot 59 for PS4 at 349 pounds,67 pounds more expensive,that is $100 dollars almost at the current exchange rate.

Bloodborns appears to be doing great every where.

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#39 finalstar2007
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@tormentos said:

@finalstar2007 said:

amazon.com

Amazon Canada

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-PC-Video-Games/zgbs/videogames

In UK is even worse... Bloodborn spot 1

The PS4 is on spot 36 the xbox one on spot 73...

Even that the PS4 is 42 pounds more expensive than the xbox one,worse even the GTA bundle is on spot 59 for PS4 at 349 pounds,67 pounds more expensive,that is $100 dollars almost at the current exchange rate.

Bloodborns appears to be doing great every where.

Total domination

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#40  Edited By cainetao11
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@tormentos:

And I don't care about your non sense opinion. I know too many gamers that consider all options when buying. And one of the options is a pc.

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#41  Edited By ProtossX
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@finalstar2007 said:

@tormentos said:

@finalstar2007 said:

amazon.com

Amazon Canada

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-PC-Video-Games/zgbs/videogames

In UK is even worse... Bloodborn spot 1

The PS4 is on spot 36 the xbox one on spot 73...

Even that the PS4 is 42 pounds more expensive than the xbox one,worse even the GTA bundle is on spot 59 for PS4 at 349 pounds,67 pounds more expensive,that is $100 dollars almost at the current exchange rate.

Bloodborns appears to be doing great every where.

Total domination

i contributed to this chart i bought this and amazon and bloodborn an sony deserve credit im gonna buying a lot of ps4 games in my future and im not buying xbox one games for a long ass time right now

so the charts are gonna ps4 all over the fucking map

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#42 soulitane
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@tormentos: I take it that you have nothing to disprove my argument then?

@Heirren said:

@soulitane:

PC(the term does not even work here) is striving to compete with consoles, but until there is a complete product on the shelf it is not directly competing. The closest real life competition would actually be AMD or Nvidia as there is some form of brand. However, buying into those brands brings up a complexity level for general consumer.

What you said does nothing to disprove my argument. It doesn't need to fill the exact niche to compete, it just needs to be able to play games and take customers away from consoles.

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Heck I kind of want that deal, and I already have a PS4. =P

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@soulitane said:

@tormentos: I take it that you have nothing to disprove my argument then?

@Heirren said:

@soulitane:

PC(the term does not even work here) is striving to compete with consoles, but until there is a complete product on the shelf it is not directly competing. The closest real life competition would actually be AMD or Nvidia as there is some form of brand. However, buying into those brands brings up a complexity level for general consumer.

What you said does nothing to disprove my argument. It doesn't need to fill the exact niche to compete, it just needs to be able to play games and take customers away from consoles.

There's no base pc product. I agree to an extent because I think it is in the process of happening--with the resolution/performance stress in the media. However, as of now most people see the process of building as a daunting one, and the more directly related products like Alienware/steam machines are in much higher price bracket.

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#45 tormentos
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@cainetao11 said:

@tormentos:

And I don't care about your non sense opinion. I know too many gamers that consider all options when buying. And one of the options is a pc.

I don't care about your when you prove to me that the winner of last 7 gens was PC you would have point,other wise your are just again damage controlling for the xbox one as always.

@soulitane said:

@tormentos: I take it that you have nothing to disprove my argument then?

What you said does nothing to disprove my argument. It doesn't need to fill the exact niche to compete, it just needs to be able to play games and take customers away from consoles.

You aren't sure about buying a PC for gaming or a PC+ a PS4 for games,that argument in no forms argument a direct competition of both for your resources,because regardless of the choice you take you will get a PC.

Either for work+ a PS4 or a PC for gaming which also does your work.

Consoles and PC don't compete and aren't on the same market the average joe don't play on PC it does so on consoles.

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#46 soulitane
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@tormentos said:

@soulitane said:

@tormentos: I take it that you have nothing to disprove my argument then?

What you said does nothing to disprove my argument. It doesn't need to fill the exact niche to compete, it just needs to be able to play games and take customers away from consoles.

You aren't sure about buying a PC for gaming or a PC+ a PS4 for games,that argument in no forms argument a direct competition of both for your resources,because regardless of the choice you take you will get a PC.

Either for work+ a PS4 or a PC for gaming which also does your work.

Consoles and PC don't compete and aren't on the same market the average joe don't play on PC it does so on consoles.

You obviously don't understand the argument. Not overly surprising though. Just try and think about it, maybe it will come to you eventually.

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@tormentos: "I don't care about your when you prove to me that the winner of last 7 gens was PC you would have point,other wise your are just again damage controlling for the xbox one as always."

That just proves what I said before. YOU LIVE THE CONSOLE WARS. I never mentioned X1 once, but you have to believe everyone is as married to their console as you. That's called projecting in psychology. PC is an option for someone looking at something that plays current gen games, every gen. The xbox has never won a sales race in a gen, yet you still consider that an option. Why does PC have to win a sales race in your warped little world?

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#48  Edited By cainetao11
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@Heirren said:

@soulitane said:

@tormentos: I take it that you have nothing to disprove my argument then?

@Heirren said:

@soulitane:

PC(the term does not even work here) is striving to compete with consoles, but until there is a complete product on the shelf it is not directly competing. The closest real life competition would actually be AMD or Nvidia as there is some form of brand. However, buying into those brands brings up a complexity level for general consumer.

What you said does nothing to disprove my argument. It doesn't need to fill the exact niche to compete, it just needs to be able to play games and take customers away from consoles.

There's no base pc product. I agree to an extent because I think it is in the process of happening--with the resolution/performance stress in the media. However, as of now most people see the process of building as a daunting one, and the more directly related products like Alienware/steam machines are in much higher price bracket.

They are in a higher price bracket and have been for quite some time. If nobody was buying them, they wouldn't still be sold, as another option to game on, hence in the competition of machines to play games on.

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#49 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@cainetao11 said:

@Heirren said:

@soulitane said:

@tormentos: I take it that you have nothing to disprove my argument then?

@Heirren said:

@soulitane:

PC(the term does not even work here) is striving to compete with consoles, but until there is a complete product on the shelf it is not directly competing. The closest real life competition would actually be AMD or Nvidia as there is some form of brand. However, buying into those brands brings up a complexity level for general consumer.

What you said does nothing to disprove my argument. It doesn't need to fill the exact niche to compete, it just needs to be able to play games and take customers away from consoles.

There's no base pc product. I agree to an extent because I think it is in the process of happening--with the resolution/performance stress in the media. However, as of now most people see the process of building as a daunting one, and the more directly related products like Alienware/steam machines are in much higher price bracket.

They are in a higher price bracket and have been for quite some time. If nobody was buying them, they wouldn't still be sold, as another option to game on, hence in the competition of machines to play games on.

That is like saying high end sports cars are in competition with cars sold on everyday lots. It simply isn't the case.

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#50  Edited By cainetao11
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@Heirren said:

@cainetao11 said:

@Heirren said:

@soulitane said:

@tormentos: I take it that you have nothing to disprove my argument then?

@Heirren said:

@soulitane:

PC(the term does not even work here) is striving to compete with consoles, but until there is a complete product on the shelf it is not directly competing. The closest real life competition would actually be AMD or Nvidia as there is some form of brand. However, buying into those brands brings up a complexity level for general consumer.

What you said does nothing to disprove my argument. It doesn't need to fill the exact niche to compete, it just needs to be able to play games and take customers away from consoles.

There's no base pc product. I agree to an extent because I think it is in the process of happening--with the resolution/performance stress in the media. However, as of now most people see the process of building as a daunting one, and the more directly related products like Alienware/steam machines are in much higher price bracket.

They are in a higher price bracket and have been for quite some time. If nobody was buying them, they wouldn't still be sold, as another option to game on, hence in the competition of machines to play games on.

That is like saying high end sports cars are in competition with cars sold on everyday lots. It simply isn't the case.

Price differential is much greater so comparison fails. Ferrari F40 is 500k to a million compared to a Honda at 23k. Many more human beings can afford the price of a pre built gaming PC than a high end sports car. Alienware Are 51 can go as low as 1400 compared to a 400 dollar console that still nedds subscription to use online. Strawman argument. PC is an option for people looking for a machine to play latest games.