PS4's GPU Has 64 Asynchronous Compute Sources vs. Xbox One's 4.

Not only is the PS4 more powerful to begin with, it is heavily geared towards asynchronous compute which will allow non-graphics calulations to be done on the GPU.

This is exacly what Mark Cerny was referring to when he said that "we will get more out of the hardware in year 3 and 4 of the console's cycle."

This is very simalar to Cell, except this is something that is also available to PCs. Crytek has already demonstrated what it can do.

Okay, now tell me: do you know what any of that means?charizard1605

Pretty sure he just explained it.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, now tell me: do you know what any of that means?GD1551

Pretty sure he just explained it.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, now tell me: do you know what any of that means?charizard1605

Pretty sure he just explained it.

Allowing non-graphics calculations being able to be done on the GPU? I think that's pretty self explanatory.

Okay, now tell me: do you know what any of that means?charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Pretty sure he just explained it.

GD1551

Non-graphics calculations being able to be done on the CPU? I think that's pretty self explanatory.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, now tell me: do you know what any of that means?PinkiePirate

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, he said 'it is heavily geared towards asynchronous compute which will allow non-graphics calulations to be done on the GPU.' I'm asking him if he even knows what any of that tech talk even means.charizard1605

Non-graphics calculations being able to be done on the CPU? I think that's pretty self explanatory.

Is there something I'm missing?? He explained what asynchronous compute sources will allow and then said that's what Cerny meant from an earlier statement. 

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, now tell me: do you know what any of that means?charizard1605

It's cute how you think you know what you're reporting.percech

its cute how you think him knowing or not invalidates the fact that is ps4 better

yet is going to mean nothing when we next year alone we will have even more powerful GPU's than what is available now on PC :lol: dat basement dwellers hard ons with inferior hardware,who the **** buys consoles for graphics + struggling to run BF4 at 1080p *teh most powerful console*

So if they can use the GPU to help out the CPU, then instead of using the GPU fully for rendering, it will partially be preoccupied with calculating CPU stuff. This would HURT the PS4's graphical abilities possibly. The PS3's was opposite, have the CPU help out the Weak GPU, not have the GPU help out the weak CPU

yet is going to mean nothing when we next year alone we will have more even more powerful GPU's than what is available now on PC :lol: dat basement dwellers hard ons with inferior hardware,who the **** buys consoles for graphics :cool:ayoox1

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Serious (non snarky) question, what is the PS4 GPU clockspeed?charizard1605

CPUs consist of very few cores (usually from 1-8) that are tuned for serial/general purpose computing. GPUs generally have many cores that run in parallel. Processes and programs that would work better in parallel process would be moved to the GPU. Devs can also invent new techniques to take advantage of this. This also puts less load on RAM since less data will need to travel from the CPU to the GPU thru RAM.

This also sort of nullifies the Xbox One's ESRAM advantage since processes running on the GPU won't need nearly as many paths of data between GPU and CPU.

Hell yeah, vector units.

Those things are magic, as demonstrated by PS2's "Emotion Engine" and PS3's CELL. ;)

Hell yeah, vector units.

Those things are magic, as demonstrated by PS2's "Emotion Engine" and PS3's CELL. ;)

nameless12345

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, he said 'it is heavily geared towards asynchronous compute which will allow non-graphics calulations to be done on the GPU.' I'm asking him if he even knows what any of that tech talk even means.charizard1605

Non-graphics calculations being able to be done on the CPU? I think that's pretty self explanatory.

So if they can use the GPU to help out the CPU, then instead of using the GPU fully for rendering, it will partially be preoccupied with calculating CPU stuff. This would HURT the PS4's graphical abilities possibly. The PS3's was opposite, have the CPU help out the Weak GPU, not have the GPU help out the weak CPU

ryangcnx-2

The Xbox ONE would need to do the same.

.campzor

This also sort of nullifies the Xbox One's ESRAM advantage since processes running on the GPU won't need nearly as many paths of data between GPU and CPU.

PinkiePirate

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay, now tell me: do you know what any of that means?charizard1605

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Hell yeah, vector units.

Those things are magic, as demonstrated by PS2's "Emotion Engine" and PS3's CELL. ;)

PinkiePirate

We're gonna use the GPU for the CPU, and the CPU for the GPU - nobody will ever expect it. 

But seriously. This ability alone is pretty awesome. How crazy that the PS4 can handle 16x more asynchronous compute sources than XB1. Cerny must foresee a great deal of potential here. I suppose the greatest strength of this technology for gaming, would be to provide auxiliary CPU overhead above and beyond the CPU in situations where it's needed, such as strategy games? However others make a good point, when this is going on would the GPU's maximum capacity for rendering be compromised? I suppose it would have to be as some processor time was used for compute?

Anyone confirm?

Hello there fellow gamespoters.. i have a question.......... 

Where are the Games that Show that this is useful and good for us? Show me the purpose!

how is the PS4 CPU, will it be a bottleneck?

my pentium 4 back in 2001 had 1.7 GHZ.. how does the PS4 have less?

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="PinkiePirate"] Yes, it's pretty simple. Asynchronous compute allows devs to use the GPU for graphics and compute simultaneously. Multiple programs can run in unison on that GPU. stereointegrity

The only time i get close to 9000 is

how is the PS4 CPU, will it be a bottleneck?

 

my pentium 4 back in 2001 had 1.7 GHZ.. how does the PS4 have less?

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The AMD cpus in the consoles may be slow compared to current PC CPUs, but they will absolutely demolish a pentium 4 in anything. They will be significantly faster than your P4 clock for clock, and also has 7 more cores than your P4

Not only is the PS4 more powerful to begin with, it is heavily geared towards asynchronous compute which will allow non-graphics calulations to be done on the GPU.

This is exacly what Mark Cerny was referring to when he said that "we will get more out of the hardware in year 3 and 4 of the console's cycle."

This is very simalar to Cell, except this is something that is also available to PCs. Crytek has already demonstrated what it can do.

[QUOTE="ryangcnx-2"]

So if they can use the GPU to help out the CPU, then instead of using the GPU fully for rendering, it will partially be preoccupied with calculating CPU stuff. This would HURT the PS4's graphical abilities possibly. The PS3's was opposite, have the CPU help out the Weak GPU, not have the GPU help out the weak CPU

PCGamingIsOver

The Xbox ONE would need to do the same.

This also sort of nullifies the Xbox One's ESRAM advantage since processes running on the GPU won't need nearly as many paths of data between GPU and CPU.

PinkiePirate

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="PinkiePirate"] Are you serious? 800Mhz. PinkiePirate

CPUs consist of very few cores (usually from 1-8) that are tuned for serial/general purpose computing. GPUs generally have many cores that run in parallel. Processes and programs that would work better in parallel process would be moved to the GPU. Devs can also invent new techniques to take advantage of this. This also puts less load on RAM since less data will need to travel from the CPU to the GPU thru RAM.

PS4 has 8 ACEs.ronvalencia

Right. Each capable of running 8 CL's

[QUOTE="PCGamingIsOver"]

[QUOTE="ryangcnx-2"]

So if they can use the GPU to help out the CPU, then instead of using the GPU fully for rendering, it will partially be preoccupied with calculating CPU stuff. This would HURT the PS4's graphical abilities possibly. The PS3's was opposite, have the CPU help out the Weak GPU, not have the GPU help out the weak CPU

ronvalencia

The Xbox ONE would need to do the same.

Why the hell would you need or even want more than 20gbs CPU IO on a console with these specs???

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] PS4 has 8 ACEs.PinkiePirate

Right. Each capable of running 8 CL's

:lol: Can just imagine 95% of PS4 fanboys not understanding a thing, but liking it :P

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="PCGamingIsOver"]

The Xbox ONE would need to do the same.

ManatuBeard

Why the hell would you need or even want more than 20gbs CPU IO on a console with these specs???

:lol: Can just imagine 95% of PS4 fanboys not understanding a thing, but liking it :P

kipsta77

This basically means consoles, or atleast the PS4, can finally get the quality and number of particle effects that PC's enjoyed 2 years ago :p

Not only is the PS4 more powerful to begin with, it is heavily geared towards asynchronous compute which will allow non-graphics calulations to be done on the GPU.

This is exacly what Mark Cerny was referring to when he said that "we will get more out of the hardware in year 3 and 4 of the console's cycle."

This is very simalar to Cell, except this is something that is also available to PCs. Crytek has already demonstrated what it can do.

PinkiePirate

Nvidia has something similar tofrom what i read yesterday is the new thing,AMD 8000 series actually improve this as well,not as far as the PS4 has take it the Titan can handle 32 commands.

When GPU compute is push the PS4 shold out distance the xbox one even more.