PS4's weak spot quite obvious in 1.08 patch of TW3

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#1  Edited By commander
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The latest witcher 3 patch (1.08, released august 7) improved the framerates on xboxone and ps4, but the ps4 still has framerate stutters while the xboxone has smooth gameplay overall.

However you can disable post processing on the ps4 and that helps to increase performance but there are still framerate stutters and it still runs better on the xboxone, even when the xboxone doesn't disable postprocessing.

Disabling postprocessing on the xboxone hardly changes the framerates. This is normal since postprocessing is also cpu bound in this game. Because the xboxone has enough cpu power available the framerates hardly change.

Which makes It is kinda sad that the ps4 is still advertised as the 'most powerfull console of all time' while it has significantly less cpu resources than the xboxone

For those who don't know this yet. The xboxone has a total of 23 percent more cpu resources. It has an overclock of 10 percent and has an extra core available for games simply because the xboxone has a more performant operating system.

This results in a more performant xboxone, albeit the xboxone runs most games at 900p and the ps4 at 1080p because of the more powerfull gpu in the ps4, the cpu determines the framerates in a cpu bottleneck scenario, pretty much causing frame rate stutters in some current gen games running on the ps4.

You can find the article about the witcher 1.08 patch here

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Can we patch out your propensity for making shit threads?

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This fucking guy

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#4 drinkerofjuice
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Shut up.

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Sigh...

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You need to stop.

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You don't stop do you?

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@commander: No cow pic?

Can't be bothered to read it then.

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#9 GarGx1
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They're both weak.

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This fucking guy

word, this thread is more pathetic than deangelo hall trying to cover deandre hopkins.

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#11  Edited By commander
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@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Should have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

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@commander said:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

Moo.

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@commander said:

@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

did u just call me a cow?

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@commander said:

@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

no, just people tired of your shit

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@phantomfire335 said:
@commander said:

@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

did u just call me a cow?

I'm sorry if you aren't

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Even diehard lems are sick of your act. :O

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#17  Edited By commander
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@ladyblue said:

Even diehard lems are sick of your act. :O

I haven't seen a diehard lem, or any lem in this thread yet , I think they want to see the cows lose it first

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#18 commander
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@lostrib said:
@commander said:

@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

no, just people tired of your shit

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#19 lostrib
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@commander said:
@lostrib said:
@commander said:

@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

no, just people tired of your shit

about what? I actually run the game at 1080p, unlike the X1

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#20 Heil68
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X1 is even worst off since PS4 is 50% more powerful as the world's most powerful video game console in the history of video games.

It just happens to be current gen 8 console leader and current NPD winner 2 months straight, covering E3 and after.

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#21  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@Heil68 said:

X1 is even worst off since PS4 is 50% more powerful as the world's most powerful video game console in the history of video games.

It just happens to be current gen 8 console leader and current NPD winner 2 months straight, covering E3 and after.

Its not 50% faster, its gpu is only on average 40% faster, the PS4 has a disadvantage with having only 6 cores clocked at 1.6ghz. Since with the Witcher 3 it uses deferred multithreading the PS4's cpu can not keep up with its gpu when more cpu intensive things happen.

X1's only advantage is it can use more than 6 cores and their clocked abit higher. Allowing the X1 cpu to keep up with its gpu more fluidly.

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Seeing this thread makes me kind of miss Tigersuperman. At least his stuffs are more entertaining!

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#23 MonsieurX
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Yes,because a simple games represent everything about the PS4 power

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Console peasants trying to rank on other console peasants.

Cute.

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#25 ronvalencia
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

Can we patch out your propensity for making shit threads?

This is system wars and why are you posting in this thread?

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Lol

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#27  Edited By commander
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@lostrib said:
@commander said:
@lostrib said:
@commander said:

@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

no, just people tired of your shit

about what? I actually run the game at 1080p, unlike the X1

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#28 ReadingRainbow4
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@Chutebox said:

This fucking guy

This is like his 3rd thread on this, lol.

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#29 Mr_Huggles_dog
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More PS4 hate.

Just another day on SW.

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#30  Edited By commander
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Chutebox said:

This fucking guy

This is like his 3rd thread on this, lol.

No it is not. The previous thread was about lies in console gaming history where the witcher 3 framerate problem was mentioned, the 1.08 patch wasn't even released yet.

and the thread before that was about the 1.07 patch in the witcher 3.

This thread is about the 1.08 patch that has significant changes over the 1.07 patch and it mentions post processing, which are both completely new facts.

Try again...

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@commander said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Chutebox said:

This fucking guy

This is like his 3rd thread on this, lol.

No it is not. The previous thread was about lies in console gaming history where the witcher 3 framerate problem was mentioned, the 1.08 patch wasn't even released yet.

and the thread before that was about the 1.07 patch in the witcher 3.

This thread is about the 1.08 patch that has significant changes over the 1.07 patch and it mentions post processing, which are both completely new facts.

Try again...

Does it matter? Playing The Witcher 3 at 30 fps or less is a terrible injustice to gaming, anyway. If you're playing on console, you're already playing it in an inferior way.

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#32  Edited By BassMan
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Ahh.. the peasants are at it again bickering about performance. News flash! They both suck. Play the game on PC if you want to play it properly.

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#33 vvulturas
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I'm sure the OT has been edited, at least, three times now.

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#34  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@commander said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Chutebox said:

This fucking guy

This is like his 3rd thread on this, lol.

No it is not. The previous thread was about lies in console gaming history where the witcher 3 framerate problem was mentioned, the 1.08 patch wasn't even released yet.

and the thread before that was about the 1.07 patch in the witcher 3.

This thread is about the 1.08 patch that has significant changes over the 1.07 patch and it mentions post processing, which are both completely new facts.

Try again...

Does it matter? Playing The Witcher 3 at 30 fps or less is a terrible injustice to gaming, anyway. If you're playing on console, you're already playing it in an inferior way.

I honestly find it hard to keep track of the shitty threads Commander makes because they all just seem to meld together into one big pool of tears.

I remember like a week ago he made a thread about world of tanks on xbone, dude proceeds to hype it like a new game, get's corrected that it's actually old as **** and continues with his lunacy, lol.

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#35  Edited By AM-Gamer
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Yet the X1 version is still in 900p. What's better 5 fps once in awhile are a constant 40% resolution advantage.

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#36  Edited By lostrib
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@commander said:
@lostrib said:
@commander said:
@lostrib said:
@commander said:

@phantomfire335: @phantomfire335: @lundy86_4: @Szminsky: @Chutebox: @GrenadeLauncher:

Shouldn't have known this place is infested with cows at this hour

no, just people tired of your shit

about what? I actually run the game at 1080p, unlike the X1

How is that relevant?

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lol tc they have the same cpu omgz you got another 150mhz does not change the fact xbox one is shit

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@commander said:

The latest witcher 3 patch (1.08, released august 7) improved the framerates on xboxone and ps4, but the ps4 still has framerate stutters while the xboxone has smooth gameplay overall.

However you can disable post processing on the ps4 and that helps to increase performance but there are still framerate stutters and it still runs better on the xboxone, even when the xboxone doesn't disable postprocessing.

Disabling postprocessing on the xboxone hardly changes the framerates. This is normal since postprocessing is pretty much cpu bound. Because the xboxone has enough cpu power available the framerates hardly change.

Which makes It is kinda sad that the ps4 is still advertised as the 'most powerfull console of all time' while it has significantly less cpu resources than the xboxone

For those who don't know this yet. The xboxone has a total of 23 percent more cpu resources. It has an overclock of 10 percent and has an extra core available for games simply because the xboxone has a more performant operating system.

This results in a more performant xboxone, albeit the xboxone runs most games at 900p and the ps4 at 1080p because of the more powerfull gpu in the ps4, the cpu determines the framerates in a cpu bottleneck scenario, pretty much causing frame rate stutters in some current gen games running on the ps4.

You can find the article about the witcher 1.08 patch here

Post-processing is entirely handled by the GPU, it's a post rendering... While it's obvious there is a CPU bottleneck taking place on the PlayStation 4, don't make shit up....

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10/10 thread. Give this guy a fucking metal.

Facts are stated and cows lose their minds. Happens all the time.

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Someone needs to post the "That's nice honey" meme asap. Thanks in advance.

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#41  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@AM-Gamer said:

Yet the X1 version is still in 900p. What's better 5 fps once in awhile are a constant 40% resolution advantage.

Yeah its soooo much better when you get yo-yo framerates going below 30fps at 1080p in multiple places............ vs a more fluid experience at a lower resolution.....

Both consoles suck, framerate> resolution, There is a around 30% difference in the number of pixels between 1080p and 900p but the law of diminishing returns, based on screen size and viewing distance 1080p will look marginally better on a large screen than 900p. The 1080p goal on PS4 creates a slew of compromises that could be avoided.

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#42  Edited By commander
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@nyadc said:
@commander said:

The latest witcher 3 patch (1.08, released august 7) improved the framerates on xboxone and ps4, but the ps4 still has framerate stutters while the xboxone has smooth gameplay overall.

However you can disable post processing on the ps4 and that helps to increase performance but there are still framerate stutters and it still runs better on the xboxone, even when the xboxone doesn't disable postprocessing.

Disabling postprocessing on the xboxone hardly changes the framerates. This is normal since postprocessing is pretty much cpu bound. Because the xboxone has enough cpu power available the framerates hardly change.

Which makes It is kinda sad that the ps4 is still advertised as the 'most powerfull console of all time' while it has significantly less cpuNooverclock of 10 percent and has an extra core available for games simply because the xboxone has a more performant operating system.

This results in a more performant xboxone, albeit the xboxone runs most games at 900p and the ps4 at 1080p because of the more powerfull gpu in the ps4, the cpu determines the framerates in a cpu bottleneck scenario, pretty much causing frame rate stutters in some current gen games running on the ps4.

You can find the article about the witcher 1.08 patch here

Post-processing is entirely handled by the GPU, it's a post rendering... While it's obvious there is a CPU bottleneck taking place on the PlayStation 4, don't make shit up....

Not necessarily , motion blur is been done on the gpu since gpgpu tools but it was mostly done on the cpu in the past.

Since the xboxone doesn't get any framerate hit because of it, while it has a weaker gpu and a stronger cpu, it's obvious it's done on the cpu.

Or the esram could be handling it but I doubt that since the game wouldn't be able to run at 900p, remember without the esram the xboxone is basically a 7770 with ddr3 and an apu (an apu which the ps4 has as well)

Either way even when enabled on the xboxone and disabled on the ps4, the xboxone still has better framerates.

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13 damn notifications. ...

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@Chutebox said:

13 damn notifications. ...

that fucking guy

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@lostrib said:
@Chutebox said:

13 damn notifications. ...

that fucking guy

speak for yourself lol, you starting quoting that

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@commander said:
@nyadc said:

Post-processing is entirely handled by the GPU, it's a post rendering... While it's obvious there is a CPU bottleneck taking place on the PlayStation 4, don't make shit up....

Not necessarily , motion blur is been done on the gpu since gpgpu tools but it was mostly done on the cpu in the past.

Since the xboxone doesn't get any framerate hit because of it, while it has a weaker gpu and a stronger cpu, it's obvious it's done on the cpu.

Or the esram could be handling it, either way even when enabled on the xboxone and disabled on the ps4, the xboxone still has better framerates.

Post processing effects ie graphical is handled by the gpu not the cpu...... fact is that the X1 has abit faster cpu with a weaker gpu, which requires less rate of data to be fed(less cpu work). Allows the system not to be bottlenecked as much as PS4 when more cpu intensive items come up. Has nothing to do with esram or cpu handing the post processing....

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#47 lostrib
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@commander said:
@lostrib said:
@Chutebox said:

13 damn notifications. ...

that fucking guy

speak for yourself lol, you starting quoting that

this fucking guy

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#48 NyaDC
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@commander said:
@nyadc said:
@commander said:

The latest witcher 3 patch (1.08, released august 7) improved the framerates on xboxone and ps4, but the ps4 still has framerate stutters while the xboxone has smooth gameplay overall.

However you can disable post processing on the ps4 and that helps to increase performance but there are still framerate stutters and it still runs better on the xboxone, even when the xboxone doesn't disable postprocessing.

Disabling postprocessing on the xboxone hardly changes the framerates. This is normal since postprocessing is pretty much cpu bound. Because the xboxone has enough cpu power available the framerates hardly change.

Which makes It is kinda sad that the ps4 is still advertised as the 'most powerfull console of all time' while it has significantly less cpuNooverclock of 10 percent and has an extra core available for games simply because the xboxone has a more performant operating system.

This results in a more performant xboxone, albeit the xboxone runs most games at 900p and the ps4 at 1080p because of the more powerfull gpu in the ps4, the cpu determines the framerates in a cpu bottleneck scenario, pretty much causing frame rate stutters in some current gen games running on the ps4.

You can find the article about the witcher 1.08 patch here

Post-processing is entirely handled by the GPU, it's a post rendering... While it's obvious there is a CPU bottleneck taking place on the PlayStation 4, don't make shit up....

Not necessarily , motion blur is been done on the gpu since gpgpu tools but it was mostly done on the cpu in the past.

Since the xboxone doesn't get any framerate hit because of it, while it has a weaker gpu and a stronger cpu, it's obvious it's done on the cpu.

Or the esram could be handling it, either way even when enabled on the xboxone and disabled on the ps4, the xboxone still has better framerates.

This isn't a debate, all post processing is a GPU bound task. It takes the rendering output and reprocesses the already rendered image and adds visual effects.

Motion blur, anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering etc, these are all post processes, all post processing is done by the GPU...

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Sometimes, I forget the XBone has Blast Processing due to that 0.10 clock difference.

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#50 ReadingRainbow4
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@lostrib said:
@commander said:
@lostrib said:
@Chutebox said:

13 damn notifications. ...

that fucking guy

speak for yourself lol, you starting quoting that

this fucking guy

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