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#51  Edited By mems_1224
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

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lol sony has to give out the multiplayer for free because no one plays that street trash

lol more people were playing killzone 3 than halo 4 before the ps4 launch, what does that say about your beloved franchise? hahaha

proof?

i made a thread about it few months ago, go look it up i cant be bothered finding it. halo had around 15,000 and killzone had 30,000 or something like that hahaha keep crying though

so, no proof then?

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#52 ghostwarrior786
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@mems_1224 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol sony has to give out the multiplayer for free because no one plays that street trash

lol more people were playing killzone 3 than halo 4 before the ps4 launch, what does that say about your beloved franchise? hahaha

proof?

i made a thread about it few months ago, go look it up i cant be bothered finding it. halo had around 15,000 and killzone had 30,000 or something like that hahaha keep crying though

so, no proof then?

hahahahah lem till the very end. keep riding ballmers di%k, i told u if u are that eager to see proof check up my posting history and look for the thread, it has killzone and halo data.

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#53 ActicEdge
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A) its not free
B) downloading 39GB for fucking 4 days of multiplayer is completely stupid.

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#54  Edited By clyde46
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol sony has to give out the multiplayer for free because no one plays that street trash

lol more people were playing killzone 3 than halo 4 before the ps4 launch, what does that say about your beloved franchise? hahaha

proof?

i made a thread about it few months ago, go look it up i cant be bothered finding it. halo had around 15,000 and killzone had 30,000 or something like that hahaha keep crying though

so, no proof then?

hahahahah lem till the very end. keep riding ballmers di%k, i told u if u are that eager to see proof check up my posting history and look for the thread, it has killzone and halo data.

So, no proof then.

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#56  Edited By clyde46
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

@clyde46 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol sony has to give out the multiplayer for free because no one plays that street trash

lol more people were playing killzone 3 than halo 4 before the ps4 launch, what does that say about your beloved franchise? hahaha

proof?

i made a thread about it few months ago, go look it up i cant be bothered finding it. halo had around 15,000 and killzone had 30,000 or something like that hahaha keep crying though

so, no proof then?

hahahahah lem till the very end. keep riding ballmers di%k, i told u if u are that eager to see proof check up my posting history and look for the thread, it has killzone and halo data.

So, no proof then.

oh look another ret@rd lem. the thread had a complete breakdown of halos online players stats and comparison with other halo games, it also had the active online number of killzone 3 players. im done responding to u morons now just go around in circles especially that fu%k wit mems

You make a statement, you provide proof. Debating 101 dumb dumb. Nice to see that Cows are still the dumbest faction in SW.

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#57 R4gn4r0k
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So how exactly is it free ?

My bad, I forgot that people buy the PS4 but not PS+. Literally get over it. It is free if you buy something that is necessary to enjoy more than a third of the console. Stop with the play on words. If you own PS+, which I would imagine almost ALL PS4 owners do, then yes, this game is free. If you, for some reason, bought a PS4 without PS+, then no. But then i guess you wouldn't care about the multiplayer anyway huh?

By that definition you can say a dualshock 4 is free if you purchase a PS4. What do I need to "literally get over" exactly ? That I need to pay for something in order for it to be free ?

Cows really need to learn the defintion of free.

Getting games with PS+ are not free games

Getting KZ3 MP with PS+ is not a free game

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#58  Edited By EndlessInfinity
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I don't see how this will help the mp population grow

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#59 applefan1991  Moderator
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@clyde46 said:

@WadeFan said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@WadeFan said:

for PS+ Members ONLY.

So how exactly is it free ?

My bad, I forgot that people buy the PS4 but not PS+. Literally get over it. It is free if you buy something that is necessary to enjoy more than a third of the console. Stop with the play on words. If you own PS+, which I would imagine almost ALL PS4 owners do, then yes, this game is free. If you, for some reason, bought a PS4 without PS+, then no. But then i guess you wouldn't care about the multiplayer anyway huh?

Isn't this the same shit you through at Lems over the charging of XBL gold? Oh the irony.....

Please bring proof before you make a claim that I said that. I can guarantee you that I never did because I was a 360 owner and LOVED that thing. It was the best console last gen. So nice try.

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#60  Edited By Dreams-Visions
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A) its not free

B) downloading 39GB for fucking 4 days of multiplayer is completely stupid.

A.) If I have PS+, how much does this cost?

B) For many of us, it's more like 5 or 6 hours rather than 4 days. But yea digital download gaming this gen isn't for you if it's that slow on your connection

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#61 speedfreak48t5p
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Why would anybody waste their time with this game when BF4 is available on the same platform? I don't give a shit if it's free. You are knowingly wasting your time on an inferior shooter as opposed to playing one of the GOATs.

Killzone actually works though.

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Cool. Wish I had a Ps4

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#63 ActicEdge
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@Dreams-Visions said:

@ActicEdge said:

A) its not free

B) downloading 39GB for fucking 4 days of multiplayer is completely stupid.

A.) If I have PS+, how much does this cost?

B) For many of us, it's more like 5 or 6 hours rather than 4 days. But yea digital download gaming this gen isn't for you if it's that slow on your connection

A) If you have PS+, you paid something to play this. Its not free, its more of a reward for paying for something else. A benefit. Its not a hard concept.

B) I'm not talking about time to download, I'm talking about bandwidth caps which do exist for people even if they don't exist for you. I think its stupid to swallow that much bandwidth for a weekend event. If you disagree, that's great, its still not going to stop being stupid though.

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#64  Edited By Dreams-Visions
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@ActicEdge said:

@Dreams-Visions said:

@ActicEdge said:

A) its not free

B) downloading 39GB for fucking 4 days of multiplayer is completely stupid.

A.) If I have PS+, how much does this cost?

B) For many of us, it's more like 5 or 6 hours rather than 4 days. But yea digital download gaming this gen isn't for you if it's that slow on your connection

A) If you have PS+, you paid something to play this. Its not free, its more of a reward for paying for something else. A benefit. Its not a hard concept.

B) I'm not talking about time to download, I'm talking about bandwidth caps which do exist for people even if they don't exist for you. I think its stupid to swallow that much bandwidth for a weekend event. If you disagree, that's great, its still not going to stop being stupid though.

A) That's fundamentally incorrect. It is free. The fact that it's attached to PS+ doesn't change the fact that it was made available for free to its members. Just like all those 360 games are free with the LIVE Gold program. They are free. That is, they did not have to be provided. Resogun on the PS4, for example, is free. They could charge for it but chose not to. It's an item that is otherwise sold for direct profit. As another example, I got an kit of items when I bought my BMW. Mostly trinkets. Keychains, Umbrellas, cuff links, etc. The items are otherwise about $100 in the BMW store at the dealership. They did not have to include them, but they did. They were free additions to my purchase.

Anything else you have to say on the subject is really just arguing semantics, which I'm in no mood for. It's intellectually dishonest and disingenuous. Specious at best. Nobody wants to talk to someone who's arguing just to argue. Or worse yet, arguing to try to not be wrong in the face of a more rational answer.

B) Most of us in the US don't have bandwidth caps, so it's largely a non-issue here. But yes, in countries where there ARE bandwidth caps, it's not going to be worth the download. And in fact, in those countries and submit to you that a digital download future is unrealistic at present. But that's here nor there. In countries and areas where you have a good internet provider and speeds, the download is not a big deal anymore. I'm getting 60mbps down/12mbps up here in Miami. If I didn't already own the game, I'd probably download it to see what I think, like I would any other demo. Start the download, go to sleep, and wake up to a finished and installed download. YMMV, but don't presume to speak in broad strokes about the value and validity of freely provided demos and MP options. Free weekends for varying games have been common on Steam for years. And yes, those free weekends required you to download entire games (sometimes 15GB-20GB) in order to play. It's a value proposition: "Is downloading this game for the free weekend worth the time to download and install it?" The answer to that varies from person to person. Maybe there is NO game you'd find worth downloading a demo of or for a free weekend. But you obviously don't represent everyone, as if you did they wouldn't continue to do it for years on Steam, right?

If it's not reasonable or realistic for you, then don't bother. Others will and may find a game worth purchasing. Speak for yourself in such matters.

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#65 ActicEdge
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@Dreams-Visions said:

@ActicEdge said:

@Dreams-Visions said:

@ActicEdge said:

A) its not free

B) downloading 39GB for fucking 4 days of multiplayer is completely stupid.

A.) If I have PS+, how much does this cost?

B) For many of us, it's more like 5 or 6 hours rather than 4 days. But yea digital download gaming this gen isn't for you if it's that slow on your connection

A) If you have PS+, you paid something to play this. Its not free, its more of a reward for paying for something else. A benefit. Its not a hard concept.

B) I'm not talking about time to download, I'm talking about bandwidth caps which do exist for people even if they don't exist for you. I think its stupid to swallow that much bandwidth for a weekend event. If you disagree, that's great, its still not going to stop being stupid though.

A) That's fundamentally incorrect. It is free. The fact that it's attached to PS+ doesn't change the fact that it was made available for free to its members. Just like all those 360 games are free with the LIVE Gold program. They are free. That is, they did not have to be provided. Resogun on the PS4, for example, is free. They could charge for it but chose not to. It's an item that is otherwise sold for direct profit. As another example, I got an kit of items when I bought my BMW. Mostly trinkets. Keychains, Umbrellas, cuff links, etc. The items are otherwise about $100 in the BMW store at the dealership. They did not have to include them, but they did. They were free additions to my purchase.

Anything else you have to say on the subject is really just arguing semantics, which I'm in no mood for. It's intellectually dishonest and disingenuous. Specious at best. Nobody wants to talk to someone who's arguing just to argue. Or worse yet, arguing to try to not be wrong in the face of a more rational answer.

B) Most of us in the US don't have bandwidth caps, so it's largely a non-issue here. But yes, in countries where there ARE bandwidth caps, it's not going to be worth the download. And in fact, in those countries and submit to you that a digital download future is unrealistic at present. But that's here nor there. In countries and areas where you have a good internet provider and speeds, the download is not a big deal anymore. I'm getting 60mbps down/12mbps up here in Miami. If I didn't already own the game, I'd probably download it to see what I think, like I would any other demo. Start the download, go to sleep, and wake up to a finished and installed download. YMMV, but don't presume to speak in broad strokes about the value and validity of freely provided demos and MP options. Free weekends for varying games have been common on Steam for years. And yes, those free weekends required you to download entire games (sometimes 15GB-20GB) in order to play. It's a value proposition: "Is downloading this game for the free weekend worth the time to download and install it?" The answer to that varies from person to person. Maybe there is NO game you'd find worth downloading a demo of or for a free weekend. But you obviously don't represent everyone, as if you did they wouldn't continue to do it for years on Steam, right?

If it's not reasonable or realistic for you, then don't bother. Others will and may find a game worth purchasing. Speak for yourself in such matters.

A) I'll pretty much concede because I don't think its even worth discussing. If you're getting stuff from a company because you are paying them you "could" call it free but its hardly an act of charity here. Its more like, "since you're paying us, we better add worth to your purchase and market our game at the same time". If you still think its free then meh w/e, this is a pointless discussion to me.

B) Basically, I already said it, if you have a bandwidth cap which is a reality in much of the world, this is balls. If you're from a place where you only get like 120GB a month, 40 of it on KZ mp for 4 days is some straight bullshit. Especially when they could easily just let you DL the MP portion and not the SP portion that isn't "free". Dunno why you needed a whole paragraph to explain something that wasn't being debated. If you have unlimited internet, go nuts. I clarified when you thought I was talking about time.

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#66  Edited By applefan1991  Moderator
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@Dreams-Visions perfect answer. Over half of the comments in this thread are people arguing semantics. Is it that hard to let go of a fanboy war for even a second to either A) say cool and go DL it or B) you don't care so you move on. This threads purpose was to let people know about this demo. Not to argue the definition of free.