PSP - A huge Flop?

I see many people on here laughing at it and saying it's a flop and DS is killing it. I don't get it.

This is the Playstation's first handheld gaming device I think people forget that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this show the Gameboy selling around 20 Million systems in about 9years or so.
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GB®1=All&cons2=PSP®2=All&cons3=GC®3=All

The PSP is at over 20 Million in about what 3 years?

None the less the PSP's first system is doing half the business of the Nintendo DS. I think that's great IMO. How is that a failure? At least Sony isn't coming out with a new PSP version every other year like the gameboy seemed to be having with the GBA and SP and Micro etc...

A new PSP will be coming whenever and they will learn from their mistakes. I mean they are coming into a market in such a technologically advanced time. The gameboy came in what 1989? It did a good job and it all started there.

I think if Sony just made their battery longer and somehow find a design to have the analog stick on the right side and be comfortable... it would make a huge jump in sales.

I mean I think MGS: OP is the best game I've ever heard of for a non console. I will buy the PS2 or PS3 version of it when it comes out cause I hear they are putting it out for consoles. And then God of War is coming out and it looks freaking amazing for a handheld system.

Anywho the PSP is doing fine and deserves some respect IMO

The psp is doing amazing, it's just the ds is some freakshow thing that overshadows just how good it's doingbigLLL

It's so true. And if Sony didn't hype it would it be doing as well as it is now??

everything is a flop if compare to NDS sales.

Can we leave consoles out of this thread guys and only speak about handhelds.

And IMO I don't get why people compare the DS so closely to it, this is their first handheld what don't people get about that? They will hopefully learn from this and get even better

I see many people on here laughing at it and saying it's a flop and DS is killing it. I don't get it.

This is the Playstation's first handheld gaming device I think people forget that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this show the Gameboy selling around 20 Million systems in about 9years or so.
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GB®1=All&cons2=PSP®2=All&cons3=GC®3=All

kcpp2b

That sales data is for Japan only (for the Gameboy). The original GameBoy sold 20.61 million in Japan and 48 million in the US and Europe ... and that's ok for a console which was black and white ...

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I see many people on here laughing at it and saying it's a flop and DS is killing it. I don't get it.

This is the Playstation's first handheld gaming device I think people forget that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this show the Gameboy selling around 20 Million systems in about 9years or so.
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GB®1=All&cons2=PSP®2=All&cons3=GC®3=All

daqua_99

That sales data is for Japan only (for the Gameboy). The original GameBoy sold 20.61 million in Japan and 48 million in the US and Europe ... and that's ok for a console which was black and white ...

Well it's not a console but anywho...

So you're saying that's what 68 Million the gameboy did in around 10 years or so? And that PS2 is at around 1/3 of its sales and in less then half the time

[QUOTE="daqua_99"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

I see many people on here laughing at it and saying it's a flop and DS is killing it. I don't get it.

This is the Playstation's first handheld gaming device I think people forget that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this show the Gameboy selling around 20 Million systems in about 9years or so.
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GB®1=All&cons2=PSP®2=All&cons3=GC®3=All

kcpp2b

That sales data is for Japan only (for the Gameboy). The original GameBoy sold 20.61 million in Japan and 48 million in the US and Europe ... and that's ok for a console which was black and white ...

Well it's not a console but anywho...

So you're saying that's what 68 Million the gameboy did in around 10 years or so? And that PS2 is at around 1/3 of its sales and in less then half the time

Umm, the DS is a console ...

A video game console is an interactive entertainment computer or electronic device that manipulates the video display signal of a display device to display a game.

By PS2 I'm thinking you mean the PSP ... yes that would be right ... but ****fied under 'GameBoy' is the GameBoy Colour and GameBoy Pocket, totalling over 150 million sales ...

Well, technically the PSP is not a flop. It has good games (although it is heavy in ports),great functionality, flawed but still decent hardware, and is selling at a somewhat okay clip. Factor all of these things in and you have a good handheld.

Factor in the DS's "inferior" hardware, several multi-million selling games, dedicated functionality, and crazy sales levels... well it starts to pale in comparison.

Probably the main factor though in all of this was the overhype gamers gave the PSP near the beginning of its life. It was touted asthe Gameboy killer and didnot size up to that hype. I guess the system has yet to live that downand here in System Wars any weakness or mistake by the other side is eagerly interpreted as "floppage".

Oh, and by the by, I own and cherishaDS, but I still respect the PSP. I just won't buy one.

The PSP is far from a flop.

A MSoft head honcho, had to admit he was wrong about the PSP being a flop - losing a bet. It was on Kotaku, and a few other sites.

What 24+ Million strong, and plenty of AAA, AA, and A titles? Sheep cant call it a flop.

They can boast that the DS has sold twice as much though!

Saying the PSP a flop is like saying the GC and Xbox flopped because PS2 outsold it....:|jcwordlife

Pretty much.

It is a flop in SW sense, simply because it didnt live up to its hype.

There's no other way around, the psp is a flop.

Say the psp was hyped AAA, but it only achieved A.

Yes it has done well. But it failed in its aims to "easily" beat the ds which it ultimately failed to even come close to.

It is a flop in SW sense, simply because it didnt live up to its hype.

There's no other way around, the psp is a flop.

Say the psp was hyped AAA, but it only achieved A.

Yes it has done well. But it failed in its aims to "easily" beat the ds which it ultimately failed to even come close to.

samusarmada

So automatically the XBox and GC are flop systems? Er ok.

I dont think any sony rep toted it would topple Nintendo's over a decade long handheld domincance, in one go. It has certainly gained a chunk of the market though.

it suceeded and it flopped. It succeeded in lasting the longest in the handhe,d business against Nintendo, but it failed to overtake Nintendo.blizzvalve

If its sales - no as it has sold very well, and been a commercial sucess.

If its overtaken the DS in the market - yes, as its sold half as much.

If its games- no as it has the most As, AAs, and as many AAAs as the DS.

And if we mess with the sales logic than the XBox and PS2, or N64 were instant flops....

[QUOTE="daqua_99"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

I see many people on here laughing at it and saying it's a flop and DS is killing it. I don't get it.

This is the Playstation's first handheld gaming device I think people forget that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this show the Gameboy selling around 20 Million systems in about 9years or so.
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GB®1=All&cons2=PSP®2=All&cons3=GC®3=All

kcpp2b

That sales data is for Japan only (for the Gameboy). The original GameBoy sold 20.61 million in Japan and 48 million in the US and Europe ... and that's ok for a console which was black and white ...

Well it's not a console but anywho...

So you're saying that's what 68 Million the gameboy did in around 10 years or so? And that PS2 is at around 1/3 of its sales and in less then half the time

i remmember when i was little,i had a gameboy and a playstation. the gameboy was fun, but i remmember always thinking that it would be great if there was an handheld that will give me the experience of playing an home console. the PSP gives me that experience.Gamerzk

[QUOTE="Gamerzk"]i remmember when i was little,i had a gameboy and a playstation. the gameboy was fun, but i remmember always thinking that it would be great if there was an handheld that will give me the experience of playing an home console. the PSP gives me that experience.t2wave

The Snes vs GBC could be argued, but the GC and GBA...... Hell no.

To those of you arguing that the PSP is not a flop, of course it's not a flop! 22-25 mill cannot be a flop! (unless Sony doesn't make a profit, but I think it's making a profit on PSP)

By replying to the "PSP is a flop" statements you're dignifying them more than they deserve. Especially the "flop is based on hype" argument, that has never been the case in any industry.

Saying the PSP a flop is like saying the GC and Xbox flopped because PS2 outsold them...:|jcwordlife

Nintendo admitted the Gamecube was a flop.

And if anyone wants a portable PlayStation2, Eponique reccomends this.

And if anyone wants a portable PlayStation2, Eponique reccomends this.

Eponique

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And if anyone wants a portable PlayStation2, Eponique reccomends this.

skrat_01

For sure. That's some self ownage there.

Next time, Eponique, learn about logic behind hardware before recommending anything. It needs portable battery to be portable.

by SW standards yes. just like zelda TP flopped or resistance flopped. the PSP was supposed to end nintendos dominance of the handheld market. it was supposed to do to the DS what the PS1 did to the N64. alot of ppl here were writing the DS off and many analysts were doing the same. needless to say in that regard the PSP is a complete and utter failure. every month the gap between the 2 platforms widens by quite a bit.

however i wouldnt regard it as a complete failure. its lasted longer than any other competitor and it has some kewl games on it. sales are also respectabe month after month and it has a userbase big enough to warrant investment. Sony did make alot of mistakes with it though imho. hopefully they come back with a PSP 2, learn from their mistakes, and give nintendo a real run for their money.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

And if anyone wants a portable PlayStation2, Eponique reccomends this.

skrat_01

Fine it's not "portable". But you can still play it in your car:D

Not like the PSP is that portable anyway, you can't play it in the sun, the battery life is low etc.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

And if anyone wants a portable PlayStation2, Eponique reccomends this.

Eponique

Fine it's not "portable". But you can still play it in your car:D

Not like the PSP is that portable anyway, you can't play it in the sun, the battery life is low etc.

edit* The PSP on full brightness + wifi on lasts a few hours less than the DSL on full brightness.......

definitly not a flop its a new born handheld, nintendo has been doing handheld for YEARS and they get more third party support its like the xbox joining the race with PS2, xbox was a superior system but the PS had been in the game for a long time and thats why It had more games.DarkNeji14

The PSP is a flop. It didn't meet the hype. If a product here on System Wars does not meet the hype, then it flopped. If people say that The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Resistance: Fall of Man flopped because they didn't meet hype, then fine, but don't bend the rules when it comes to the PSP. We either say that products flop if they don't meet the hype or we don't. I would more than happily go with the latter but since people decide to go the other way, I'll play along.

However, I won't let people ridicule good games for silly reasons and then see them bending the rules to their liking. By System Wars standards, the PSP flopped because it didn't meet the hype and that's the end of that. Unless fanboys decide to abandon these silly rules, then damn, I'll continue rubbing ownage in their faces using their own rules and methods.

Yes the psp is a flop. It's simple to understand really. The psp had absolutley MASSIVE hype before it got released. Better graphics, multimedia functions, was the "ds killer" as proclaimed by cows the world over. Now, since it's getting creamed by the DS, and DID NOT MEET THE HYPE, it is a flop. It's like a game flopping, hype not met = FLOP.

What's so hard to understand?

The hype it had before it was released was MASSIVE. It was hyped as the nintendo ds killer and many though that sony would take over the handheld market. But when it was relased many people weren't impressed and it soon became obvious that it wasn't the "ds killer". But for what it is now, it's a decent handheld with decent games.SaintBlaze

So the PSP is considered a flop is system wars. In real life its not. Its a great success. SW does not equal real life.

So the PSP is considered a flop is system wars. In real life its not. Its a great success. SW does not equal real life.

Killfox

So the PSP is considered a flop is system wars. In real life its not. Its a great success. SW does not equal real life.

Killfox

Pretty much, its a decent handheld in the real world, although the games don't interest me. In SW and GS forums though, its a massive failure.

People cant get over the fact that the DS is doing better and maybe, just maybe ,....Deserves it?!!?

Jeez, its not just its sales. It has awsome games too. The psp is a flop