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#1 Nomad0404
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Can someone please tell me how any plants, trees,bushes are in KZ2.

Failing that are there any monsters in it like in GeOW/GeOW2?

I'm curious to know because it's been cited as one of the biggest reasons why it supposedly looks better than anything (except Crysis which owns it totally).

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Can someone please tell me how any plants, trees,bushes are in KZ2.

Failing that are there any monsters in it like in GeOW/GeOW2?

I'm curious to know because it's been cited as one of the biggest reasons why it supposedly looks better than anything (except Crysis which owns it totally).

Phil

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there aren't any there are monsters, it just depends on what you consider locust's it doesn't look better than crysis
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#3 Cedmln
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Apparantly you think a game needs trees and bushes are needed towards wether a game has good graphics or not.. Its like saying racing games have good graphics because its easier. It still doesn't change the fact that it looks good. Killzone 2 is a technical visual beast. Deal with it.
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Apparantly you think a game needs trees and bushes are needed towards wether a game has good graphics or not.. Its like saying racing games have good graphics because its easier. It still doesn't change the fact that it looks good. Killzone 2 is a technical visual beast. Deal with it.

Naa thats just opinion, just like in my opinion RE5 looks better..see the trend? ;) and now deal with the fact that opinions are that..just opinions..
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What have trees and bushes to do with anything? There are some, depends on what you expect and what your definition of monster is though. Anything like Gears? Nope, not really.
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#6 Episode_Eve
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LOL the desert environments have desert "flowers". I laughed out loud when I saw one.
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#7 Cedmln
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[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="Nomad0404"]

Can someone please tell me how any plants, trees,bushes are in KZ2.

Failing that are there any monsters in it like in GeOW/GeOW2?

I'm curious to know because it's been cited as one of the biggest reasons why it supposedly looks better than anything (except Crysis which owns it totally).

Phil

there aren't any

Yes there are. Look in the first level. lol
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#8 Cedmln
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Fruits and Vegetables are healthier than meat and candy... I guess thats an opinion, right? :roll: Don't try to pull thT opinion BS on me. I guess Saying Crysis looks better than Super Mario is also an opinion. Will never be such a thing called fact to you. :roll:
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#9 McdonaIdsGuy
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Fruits and Vegetables are healthier than meat and candy... I guess thats an opinion, right? :roll: Don't try to pull thT opinion BS on me. I guess Saying Crysis looks better than Super Mario is also an opinion. Will never be such a thing called fact to you. :roll:Cedmln
Nope opinions are that just opinions,but don't come with the ''BS'' of opinions that cows try to force and pass them all the time as fact.. like ''KZ2 looks better than crysis''

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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Fruits and Vegetables are healthier than meat and candy... I guess thats an opinion, right? :roll: Don't try to pull thT opinion BS on me. I guess Saying Crysis looks better than Super Mario is also an opinion. Will never be such a thing called fact to you. :roll:McdonaIdsGuy

Nope opinions are that just opinions,but don't come with the ''BS'' of opinions that cows try to force and pass them all the time as fact.. like ''KZ2 looks better than crysis''

come on Mcdonaldsguy relax..and admit you are having a great time with your newly bought PS3... its not hard to admit you were wrong bashing PS3 before you got it..

On Topic :- Everyone with some common sense knows KZ2 doesnt look better than Crysis, no game on consoles (& most PC titles) does... KZ2 is a great shooter with gorgeous visuals and an addictive online, people should just get the game and enjoy it without feeling the need to compare it with every single game thats been released since Pong..

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come on Mcdonaldsguy relax..and admit you are having a great time with your newly bought PS3... its not hard to admit you were wrong bashing PS3 before you got it..Malta_1980
Yes im having a blast playing Resistance 2 and Siren Blood Curse :o!

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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]come on Mcdonaldsguy relax..and admit you are having a great time with your newly bought PS3... its not hard to admit you were wrong bashing PS3 before you got it..McdonaIdsGuy

Yes im having a blast playing Resistance 2 and Siren Blood Curse :o!

Umm, no mention of KZ2. Why am i not surprised? I have to give it to you. You stick to your word until the very end. KZ2 could be the best game ever made and you would still not give it any credit.
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#13 clone01
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]

come on Mcdonaldsguy relax..and admit you are having a great time with your newly bought PS3... its not hard to admit you were wrong bashing PS3 before you got it..Malta_1980
Yes im having a blast playing Resistance 2 and Siren Blood Curse :o!

Umm, no mention of KZ2. Why am i not surprised? I have to give it to you. You stick to your word until the very end. KZ2 could be the best game ever made and you would still not give it any credit.

nah, i agree with him. i'm not bashing KZ2, but i certainly don't think its the be all, end all of gaming. personally, i think resistance 2 and left 4 dead are much better games.
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Killzone 2 has more leaves than Fable 2. Yes, it's that impressive!
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Fruits and Vegetables are healthier than meat and candy... I guess thats an opinion, right? :roll: Don't try to pull thT opinion BS on me. I guess Saying Crysis looks better than Super Mario is also an opinion. Will never be such a thing called fact to you. :roll:McdonaIdsGuy

Nope opinions are that just opinions,but don't come with the ''BS'' of opinions that cows try to force and pass them all the time as fact.. like ''KZ2 looks better than crysis''

ha, lems are just as bad. no one is saying KZ2 looks better than crysis, but the majority of people are saying that KZ2 is the best looking console game.
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#16 TruestGamer
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Anyone that's played Killzone can tell you it's easily the best looking console game (Yes, I've played RE 5)... does it compete with Crysis? Absolutely not.

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#17 donalbane
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Anyone that's played Killzone can tell you it's easily the best looking console game (Yes, I've played RE 5)... does it compete with Crysis? Absolutely not.

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True that.
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#18 patriots7672
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It's Helgan, earth has trees and shrubs as in the first KZ.

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#19 Nomad0404
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If you read my thread properly I said that Crysis owns I think 99% of everything with photo-realistic graphics (art style could be argued).

Back on topic. To draw organic matter in 3d takes a lot of system resources, for example there's no straight edges it's all curves.

GeOW and GeOW2 have lots of vegitiation, look at the Conservatory in GeOW for example and the palm trees etc.

Everyone says KZ2 looks fantastic, it may do, but it does so because they had to make sacrifices.

Everyone says KZ2 could not be done on the 360, I sincerely doubt this. Use the same tricks they are on the PS3 and it'll do it no worries.

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#20 PCgamer687
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Apparantly you think a game needs trees and bushes are needed towards wether a game has good graphics or not.. Its like saying racing games have good graphics because its easier. It still doesn't change the fact that it looks good. Killzone 2 is a technical visual beast. Deal with it.McdonaIdsGuy
Naa thats just opinion, just like in my opinion RE5 looks better..see the trend? ;) and now deal with the fact that opinions are that..just opinions..

well no opinion, killzone 2's engine is a beast, it dosnt use cheap tricks what you see is what you get, example the killzone 2 tv ad, is running in realtime off of a PS3 wiht no tweaks, and sony said they would release a playable version of the trailer.
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#21 GreyFoXX4
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Well to pull off what Gears 2 pulled off, it made a huge amount of sacrifices, lighting isn't even comparable, particle effects isn't even comparable, animations isn't even comparable, weather effects aren't even comparable, destruction of hit walls and just debris in general isn't even comparable, Sound isn't comparable, heck and the list goes on and on. Geez seems to me Gears could have done without a palm tree to add some effects lol.

And what really wins Graphics for crysis atleast to me is just the shear size of the levels and what it pulls off. But I do think that the destruction and the amount of action and debris and particles effects aswell as lighting really puts KZ2 right up there with crysis. In the end crysis wins but got to give props to KZ2 for what it is pulling off on a console.

Just beat crysis last wed. played it on very high settings if people were wondering.

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#22 mmirza23
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There are no "tricks". There's a reason why this engine took 2 years to develop and the game another 1.5 years, it's a technical marvel for a console FPS, the best looking console game out there(for now), Resident Evil 5 has nowhere near the amount of stuff going on that KZ2 does with the same graphical quality. Right now it's KZ2>>>everything else on consoles. Crysis is just another beast in itselt, no idea when that'll be topped.
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#23 def_mode
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Colors are good but not always and it depends.

If colors is everything then VIVA PINATA >> GEARS2 and KZ2

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#24 Nomad0404
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Now I'm annoid there's an article somewhere of a KZ2 dev stating that they cheated on the lighting to make look better than in actually does. Grrrr I will find it.

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#25 def_mode
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why did u chose the word "cheating" when it could be "technical strategy" you really want to make KZ2 sound and look bad.

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#26 DarkyC
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If you read my thread properly I said that Crysis owns I think 99% of everything with photo-realistic graphics (art style could be argued).

Back on topic. To draw organic matter in 3d takes a lot of system resources, for example there's no straight edges it's all curves.

GeOW and GeOW2 have lots of vegitiation, look at the Conservatory in GeOW for example and the palm trees etc.

Everyone says KZ2 looks fantastic, it may do, but it does so because they had to make sacrifices.

Everyone says KZ2 could not be done on the 360, I sincerely doubt this. Use the same tricks they are on the PS3 and it'll do it no worries.

Nomad0404

All of the sudden a game has to have trees to look good. What you forget is, going by that, Uncharted is the best looking game because it has more trees than GeOW2 and K2 combined.