"WIi is taking up what we started"-Sony

here is what sony AU boss said:

Sony's Ephraim says the company pioneered the modularisation of gaming.

"We respect what the Wii has done, which is taking up what we started," he says.

what do you think? is he bashing or being genuine?

i agree on the pioneering part ..

Source (long read)

A link would be nice.

There have been casual games for ages. I suppose what Sony means is that Wii is somewhat of an extension on games like Singstar and Buzz, but really, this is just another arrogant comment.

Stop talking, get more games on your system Sony.

The PS2 did do alot for casuals, so yes, I can see what he is saying.mattyftm

Yeah, I dont really see that as a bash. Maybe if he was implying that the PS3 started it... but considering he's probably talking about the PS2 I dont see it as a bash.

I can see their point, but that's not necessarily a good thing, at least not right now.

If the Wii is taking up what Sony started, one has to wonder why Sony didn't continue it if it was such a good idea.

So they're taking up dominating the console sales? Nice.thrones

I think they just want people to forget that Nintendo is reclaiming that position. :P

what they started? didnt nintendo make gaming popularliquidsnake1987

Gaming didn't become mainstream until the 32-bit/64-bit era around the time PS1 was around.

The PS2 did do alot for casuals, so yes, I can see what he is saying.mattyftm

More the original Playstation I think is what he is referring to.

A link would be nice.

There have been casual games for ages. I suppose what Sony means is that Wii is somewhat of an extension on games like Singstar and Buzz, but really, this is just another arrogant comment.

Stop talking, get more games on your system Sony.

the-very-best

I can see their point, but that's not necessarily a good thing, at least not right now.

If the Wii is taking up what Sony started, one has to wonder why Sony didn't continue it if it was such a good idea.

sonicmj1

That's easy: Because Sony didn't really know what made the PS1 and the PS2 sell so well. They did great, but they didn't really know how they got there. Then, they just figured they were on a roll and assumed that people would go crazy for the Playstation 3, just because it had the Playstation brand thing going. Nintendo had to learn things the hard way, and they had a lot of time to really see and understand what Sony, without really knowing, was doing right, replicate it and improve on it.

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A link would be nice.

There have been casual games for ages. I suppose what Sony means is that Wii is somewhat of an extension on games like Singstar and Buzz, but really, this is just another arrogant comment.

Stop talking, get more games on your system Sony.

heretrix

I think you mean ROB. (Unless Grunty and her sisters made the Big-O-Blaster for the NES LOOONG before its debut on the N64.)

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

A link would be nice.

There have been casual games for ages. I suppose what Sony means is that Wii is somewhat of an extension on games like Singstar and Buzz, but really, this is just another arrogant comment.

Stop talking, get more games on your system Sony.

heretrix

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

A link would be nice.

There have been casual games for ages. I suppose what Sony means is that Wii is somewhat of an extension on games like Singstar and Buzz, but really, this is just another arrogant comment.

Stop talking, get more games on your system Sony.

darkslider99

Its hard to tell what he means by N picking up where Sony left off. If it's about add-ons, that doesn't make sense. If its about catering to a 'casual' audience, thats just plain embarrassing if Sony purposley did that with PS2 and then let it all get away by totally abandoning them.

Besides, all companies agreed that N adopted Blue Ocean strategy for Wii while MS and Sony kept with the Red Ocean strategy like LAST gen.

I don't think he's lying or exaggerating, I just think he is talkin about something that isn't exactly clear.

BTW, I believe this is the reason (from the article) that the Wii is so successful:

"People these days don't have the time to go home and spend 10 hours a night on a big, serious game, but they can spare a bit of time, a half-hour or so, for a bit of fun and a bit of fitness improvement."

This is so true, especially when you get married, get a full time job, and have kids. You simply don't have enough time for games like you used to (if you want to be a good parent/spouse).

I find myself working Nintendo games into the mix with the kids by having them read the text and using other factors in game (like using WindWaker to teach compass direction and moon phases)

typical sony arrogance again

trying to get some credit for nintendo's work

nintendo can easily fight back by saying how sony wouldn't even be in the gaming business without them

Why are people seeing this as arrogance? :? . All I see in that statement is courteaus behavior towards Nintendo...

*slaps Sony*

... What in the hell is wrong with you?:|

one has to wonder why Sony didn't continue it if it was such a good idea.

sonicmj1

I've wondered about it years before the gen even started. They probably weren't too happy that the PS2 wasn't considered a PC by law, and decided to push that direction further with the PS3... :P

The point is that it'd've been a good idea. So, why didn't they go forward with it? Hell if I know. All of the mistakes they've made this generation, may be the best responce to that question.

Why are people seeing this as arrogance? :? . All I see in that statement is courteaus behavior towards Nintendo...

*slaps Sony*

... What in the hell is wrong with you?:|

StealthSting

[QUOTE="StealthSting"]

Why are people seeing this as arrogance? :? . All I see in that statement is courteaus behavior towards Nintendo...

*slaps Sony*

... What in the hell is wrong with you?:|

heretrix

Are you going to deny that the PS brand pushed the console market to a more mainstream audience? That's all they're saying.

They're not saying that they're responsible for the sucess of the Wii, that falls into Nintendo. The Blue Ocean strategy for instance. They're simply saying that Nintendo is following the mainstream road that brought sucess to their brand for the last two gens. It seems like a perfectly fair statement to me.

They respect what the Wii has done, what Nintendo has done; not what Sony has done.

Why are people seeing this as arrogance? :? . All I see in that statement is courteaus behavior towards Nintendo...

*slaps Sony*

... What in the hell is wrong with you?:|

StealthSting

because they are trying to take credit.

its like "thanks for carrying out my orders nintendo, everyone applaud me now! It was MY idea!"

They are talking accessories/peripherals. Except Nintendo had accessories and such way before, and Sony's stuff never really caught on.

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]what they started? didnt nintendo make gaming popularShadow2k6

Gaming didn't become mainstream until the 32-bit/64-bit era around the time PS1 was around.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="StealthSting"]

Why are people seeing this as arrogance? :? . All I see in that statement is courteaus behavior towards Nintendo...

*slaps Sony*

... What in the hell is wrong with you?:|

StealthSting

Are you going to deny that the PS brand pushed the console market to a more mainstream audience? That's all they're saying.

They're not saying that they're responsible for the sucess of the Wii, that falls into Nintendo. The Blue Ocean strategy for instance. They're simply saying that Nintendo is following the mainstream road that brought sucess to their brand for the last two gens. It seems like a perfectly fair statement to me.

They respect what the Wii has done, what Nintendo has done; not what Sony has done.

because they are trying to take credit.

its like "thanks for carrying out my orders nintendo, everyone applaud me now! It was MY idea!"

They are talking accessories/peripherals. Except Nintendo had accessories and such way before, and Sony's stuff never really caught on.

renger6002

Mind you that I haven't really read anything concerning the link, only the quote. Didn't have the patience... perhaps it's not really my place to argue about it... the people that has read it in full would know. Exception to the rule in this case :P so a perhaps sorry to Heretrix. And saying that they have started it(instead of simply stating being a major influence), may be considered at some point to be a bit arrogant... so yes, I may actually have to agree.

Anyway, does it really matter? Their Sony, a bunch of idiots :P .

Did you even read the article? heretrix

No I did not... have mercy :lol: .

[QUOTE="renger6002"]

because they are trying to take credit.

its like "thanks for carrying out my orders nintendo, everyone applaud me now! It was MY idea!"

They are talking accessories/peripherals. Except Nintendo had accessories and such way before, and Sony's stuff never really caught on.

StealthSting

Mind you that I haven't really read anything concerning the link, only the quote. Didn't have the patience... perhaps it's not really my place to argue about it... the people that has read it in full would know. Exception to the rule in this case :P so a perhaps sorry to Heretrix. And saying that they have started it(instead of simply stating being a major influence), may be considered at some point to be a bit arrogant... so yes, I may actually have to agree.

Anyway, does it really matter? Their Sony, a bunch of idiots :P .

ah well. At least you admitted it. I must say I didn't read the link at first either, and thought they were talking about casualising.

So Sony realized that their system isn't doing that well, and they're trying to take credit for the Wii? What the hell?Video_Game_King

:lol: Sig worthy.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Did you even read the article? StealthSting

No I did not... have mercy :lol: .

"Sony's Ephraim says the company pioneered the modularisation of gaming."

That's a pretty big falsehood.

Kind of funny. Sony knows that they can't win against nitendo this time, so it sounds like they're just trying to take the credit for ninty success.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]So Sony realized that their system isn't doing that well, and they're trying to take credit for the Wii? What the hell?AtrumRegina

:lol: Sig worthy.

Go ahead, do it. I won't mind. Just put it in quotes (unlike the last guy who did me :P).

Well in a sense it is true.

The PS1 did take gaming on consoles to a whole new audience. It expanded the market.

The PS2 did the same with help from the Eye Toy, Singstar, Buzz, Guiter Hero

And The Wii/DS is picking up where they left off. And are now dominatingjg4xchamp

So Sony invented peripherals and expansion of the market? Nowhere near the truth. Peripherals have basically been around since the beginning of gaming, and Nintendo was the first company to expand the market from what it was (unless that's reworded, in which case Atari brought it to the masses).

That Sony guy should be the next one to get fired. Wouldn't be surprised if he "resigns to go work somewhere else".

Just when critics are starting to like Sony again, they have to ruin it and say something arrogant like this once again. Sony sure do like being at it's place, last place in the heart and minds of critics.

So Sony realized that their system isn't doing that well, and they're trying to take credit for the Wii? What the hell?Video_Game_King