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#1 liquid-ocelot
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So today i give into temptation and begin researching left 4 dead 2 and what i saw actually seriously pissed me off.

Not just one but two "black" people now dont get me wrong i love black people but this is just pushing on this goddamn stereotype that black people are the biggest "survivors" during a zombie apocolypse. It is a pig disgusting fictional stereotype based off an old movie which in my respect should be banned for the way it degrades an entire ethnic minority.

All i can say is Gabe Newell i am dissapoint.

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#2 FanaFall
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Cool story, go blog it.

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#3 8Tango
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Ahhh I get it, because of a stereotype set by films, black people shouldn't be allowed in a zombie game...

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#5 navyguy21
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Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :P
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#6 skinny_man_69
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Ahem...I have to say sir that your logic is completely sound and you may have just posted the most irrefutable fact ever onto System Wars. Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go write a paper on the many abuses of sarcasm

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#7 Ace6301
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50% of the survivors in a game that takes place in the south are Black!? SHOCKING!
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#8 Punjabiking101
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Yeah, because having african americans in the game makes it racist??? :|

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#9 washd123
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omg in bioshock in rapture theres no black people at all I CALL RACISM!!!!!!!

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#10 Lionheart08
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Wut? Silent-Hal

Too many black survivors in the game or something.

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#11 SPYDER0416
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Wow..... this is... I can't even describe the drop my IQ took reading this.

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#12 clyde46
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I would love to go on and rant and flame etc but I've only just come back from a 7day ban. So your getting off lightly OP.

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#13 liquid-ocelot
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Cool story, go blog it.

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I already did? WHY WONT YOU PEOPLE READ MY BLOG?!
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#14 Panther501
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I know! And L4D is also racist! Whats with all the white folks? Why are all the infected white? does valve hate white people?

(sarcasm)

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#15 Punjabiking101
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omg in bioshock in rapture theres no black people at all I CALL RACISM!!!!!!!

washd123

Wait a minute... *has moment* :O

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#16 chikenfriedrice
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u sound ridiculous

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#17 Mograine
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So...2 characters of a game are black, I sure see the discrimination and degradation there...

now dont get me wrong i love black peopleliquid-ocelot

:? Now we REALLY got you wrong :P

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#18 clyde46
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Actually TC, I will bite. You dont have ethnic minorities in a game, then its racism. You have ethnic minorities in a game is racism. Make up your dam mind!

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#19 Silent-Hal
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :P

I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.
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#20 karasill
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Or maybe it has to do with the setting in New Orleans where there is a bigger population of black people? Oh heaven forbid that out of 4 playable characters, one is a black male, and the other is a black female. :roll: I bet you found Resident Evil 5 to be racist too....
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#21 enterawesome
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You're right! We should start excluding african-americans from all forms of media as to not be racist, hell, how about everything? Because as we all know, killing anything that isn't white, or starring anything that isn't white, is RACIST! In fact, just being by anything not white is racist. [spoiler] :roll: No, TC. You failed the mission, and you're racist for wanting to exclude african americans. To shame. [/spoiler]
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#22 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :PSilent-Hal
I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

Before someone tries to pull the RE4 card on you, it was just as stereotypical too.

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#23 8Tango
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It is obvious the only way to cure this complete racism is to ban blacks from games!!

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#24 washd123
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :PSilent-Hal
I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

except that tribes like that do exist in africa and south america.

so again hows it racist?

also doesnt there have to be intent for something to be racist? i mean just because a game has you killing all blacks or all whites doesnt automatically mean its racist

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :PSilent-Hal
I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

Well, considering that is how many people live in Afirca even today... then yes, you are right. Totally racist.

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#26 deactivated-5ef287a6cdc35
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Post like this fuel the post that you read. Ignore it goes away

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#27 shutdown_202
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No. But there is some of this in it.

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#28 nVidiaGaMer
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I think your overracting this is just some coinsidence.

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#29 clyde46
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I cant seem to grasp at where the TC is actually coming from here. Is this just flame bait or something?

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#30 washd123
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omg guys in NFS shift i didnt see any black drivers!!!! RACIST!!!!!

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :PSilent-Hal
I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

indeed, but I'm pretty sure TC is being sarcastic at least I hope so, thats the way I read it. Again I hope I'm right if not then WOW. But if so, then alot of people's sarcasm detector is broken.

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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :P

I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

That did seem a tad tasteless, but everybody was jumping on the RE5 is racist bandwagon way before anyone knew about those guys. Back on topic, TC, that's ridiculous.
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#33 heysharpshooter
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I can grasp at where the TC is actually coming from here. this just flame bait.

clyde46

fixed.

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#35 FanaFall
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

I can grasp at where the TC is actually coming from here, this is just a flame bait.

heysharpshooter

fixed.

re-fixed.

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#36 clyde46
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

I can grasp at where the TC is actually coming from here, this is just a flame bait.

FanaFall

fixed.

re-fixed.

Here come the grammer Nazi's.
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#37 8Tango
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :PSilent-Hal
I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

+

Yes, things can get unbelievably racist when you dig deep into a landscape.

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#38 3rdbass
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So today i give into temptation and begin researching left 4 dead 2 and what i saw actually seriously pissed me off.

Not just one but two "black" people now dont get me wrong i love black people but this is just pushing on this goddamn stereotype that black people are the biggest "survivors" during a zombie apocolypse. It is a pig disgusting fictional stereotype based off an old movie which in my respect should be banned for the way it degrades an entire ethnic minority.

All i can say is Gabe Newell i am dissapoint.

liquid-ocelot

What is the point of this thread? What's wrong with black characters in video games? We actually need more as there are barely any and especially in a leading role.

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :PSilent-Hal
I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

Yeah i recently beat re5 and theres no way to refute the racism in that game. Going into a African tribal vilage, killing them, foraging around and finding diamonds, selling them for weapons, only to kill more tribals.... interesting concept.

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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :Pheysharpshooter

I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

Well, considering that is how many people live in Afirca even today... then yes, you are right. Totally racist.

You're forgetting the fact that the game actually tells you that those people were normal before getting infected (IE, living exactly like the ones earlier in the game), so what, they suddenly just have the desire to wear loin clothes and chuck spears for some reason?
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#41 dommeus
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So today i give into temptation and begin researching left 4 dead 2 and what i saw actually seriously pissed me off.

Not just one but two "black" people now dont get me wrong i love black people but this is just pushing on this goddamn stereotype that black people are the biggest "survivors" during a zombie apocolypse. It is a pig disgusting fictional stereotype based off an old movie which in my respect should be banned for the way it degrades an entire ethnic minority.

All i can say is Gabe Newell i am dissapoint.

liquid-ocelot
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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :P

I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

How is that racist? If you scattered a few other races like in the normel hordes it wouldn't be racist?
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#43 liquid-ocelot
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Argh you people are picking me up wrong at every turn here ffs.

Look back 200 years black people where stereotyped as being "cotton pickers". It's a dirty stereotype that if you said to a black man today you would soon be shown whats what. What you people fail to grasp is that this is our modern day cotton picking and the very fact that you all claim "ITS A VIDEO GAME IT CANT BE RACIST" makes me sick to my very core at just how far backwards this world is going.

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#44 omgimba
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Aren't black people ususally the ones that die in horror movies?

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#45 mgsbethatgame
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So today i give into temptation and begin researching left 4 dead 2 and what i saw actually seriously pissed me off.

Not just one but two "black" people now dont get me wrong i love black people but this is just pushing on this goddamn stereotype that black people are the biggest "survivors" during a zombie apocolypse. It is a pig disgusting fictional stereotype based off an old movie which in my respect should be banned for the way it degrades an entire ethnic minority.

All i can say is Gabe Newell i am dissapoint.

liquid-ocelot
wait what
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :P

I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

How is that racist? If you scattered a few other races like in the normel hordes it wouldn't be racist?

Its because this whole PC BS era we are living in, we arent allowed to do anything that would upset minorities.
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#47 8Tango
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[QUOTE="liquid-ocelot"]

Argh you people are picking me up wrong at every turn here ffs.

Look back 200 years black people where stereotyped as being "cotton pickers". It's a dirty stereotype that if you said to a black man today you would soon be shown whats what. What you people fail to grasp is that this is our modern day cotton picking and the very fact that you all claim "ITS A VIDEO GAME IT CANT BE RACIST" makes me sick to my very core at just how far backwards this world is going.

But... Your the one being racist...
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#48 clyde46
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Argh you people are picking me up wrong at every turn here ffs.

Look back 200 years black people where stereotyped as being "cotton pickers". It's a dirty stereotype that if you said to a black man today you would soon be shown whats what. What you people fail to grasp is that this is our modern day cotton picking and the very fact that you all claim "ITS A VIDEO GAME IT CANT BE RACIST" makes me sick to my very core at just how far backwards this world is going.

liquid-ocelot
That was nothing to do with video games. Stereotypes are what they are, you cant change them.
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]Racism in RE5 :roll: Racism in L4D 2 :roll: There is racism to be found in ANY game if you look hard enough :P

I'd say the RE5 argument is valid actually. Everyone remember that point half-way through the game when you suddenly stop encountering the normal villagers and start coming across primitive tribesmen wearing loinclothes and warpaint, throwing spears at you and living in mud huts ? Fun times.

How is that racist? If you scattered a few other races like in the normel hordes it wouldn't be racist?

lol, thats what im wondering lol, i mean, im black, and i still dont see how either game is racist, its a GAME!!! So i guess Gears, Ressistance, and Halo are species-ist? :lol: How dare they shoot those innocent aliens!! :P
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#50 liquid-ocelot
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[QUOTE="liquid-ocelot"]

Argh you people are picking me up wrong at every turn here ffs.

Look back 200 years black people where stereotyped as being "cotton pickers". It's a dirty stereotype that if you said to a black man today you would soon be shown whats what. What you people fail to grasp is that this is our modern day cotton picking and the very fact that you all claim "ITS A VIDEO GAME IT CANT BE RACIST" makes me sick to my very core at just how far backwards this world is going.

clyde46
That was nothing to do with video games. Stereotypes are what they are, you cant change them.

but you can ignore and avoid them until they go away