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#51 Netherscourge
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Gamespot should stop giving out SCORES and just review the game.

All they need to do is list the positives and negatives and give an overall impression. That's it.

No need to put a number scale on it because the numbers are meaningless when they are purely subjective in the first place.

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#52 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Another flop to add to the Sony pile :cool:

finalstar2007

While Microsofts game library gets emptier and emptier every month :cool:

That doesn't even make sense.

But I'll forgive you. Must be tough when another Sony game turns out crap :(

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#53 lx_theo
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Another flop to add to the Sony pile :cool:

RR360DD
Are you even trying anymore? You know what a "flop" is here. Feel free to show the hype poll.
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#54 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Gamespot should stop giving out SCORES and just review the game.

All they need to do is list the positives and negatives and give an overall impression. That's it.

No need to put a number scale on it because the numbers are meaningless when they are purely subjective in the first place.

Netherscourge
And impressions aren't?
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#55 Riverwolf007
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pretty good score for a team ico wannabe.

i mean do you really expect them to do team ico better than team ico?

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#56 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Why?blue_hazy_basic

He is to harsh on everything :evil:

9GN gave it the same score though.

which means it's probably much worse.

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#57 Gue1
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aren't there like way too many 8's and 9's in the gaming realm anyway? Like seriously, the only way a game gets below 6 it's when the game is so bad it actually deserves a 0/10. But then every time a hyped game gets below 8 everybody's like: that reviewer too harsh or the review sucks. Not every game just because is "decent" deserves an 8 minimum!

But it's understandable why reviewers give so many high scores, I mean, most gaming related stuff live off what they make  on ad revenue from game publishers. And we have adapted anyway, we all know that any game below 7 is dog escrement unless you're a hardcore fanboy of the franchise, in that case you can ignore all reviews in general.

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#58 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Shit, i'm surprised to see people still not recognize 7 for the score it is - a good one. It's been incredibly hard for games to pass a 8 here on GS recently. Makes me happy that they're using the full scale. 

blue_hazy_basic
Word. Could not agree more. Its such a cop out to just dish out 8-10's for every game with a bit of hype.

Well they still kind of give out 7s pretty easy
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#59 tagyhag
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7? I guess it's trash then according to cows. :P
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#60 The_Last_Ride
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Got a 3/5 from Rev3games and 8.5 from IGN
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#61 GamingGod999
Member since 2011 • 3135 Posts

No hype = No flop

SDC. :cool:

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

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#62 CaseyWegner
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No hype = No flop

SDC. :cool:

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

GamingGod999

sony damage control?

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#63 GamingGod999
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

No hype = No flop

SDC. :cool:

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

CaseyWegner

sony damage control?

There is no damage to control; just the celebration of domination.

#ThankYouBasedKaz

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#64 uninspiredcup
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No hype = No flop

SDC. :cool:

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

GamingGod999

 

It also equals no sales.

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#65 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

Mcshit strikes again

blue_hazy_basic

Why?

He trolls too much in his reviews, honestly I have no idea why the guy even still has a job.

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#66 LA-Nighthawk
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Sweenix"]

Mcshit strikes again

Ballroompirate

Why?

He trolls too much in his reviews, honestly I have no idea why the guy even still has a job.

Translation: "he gives out scores I disagree with"
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#67 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Sweenix"]

Mcshit strikes again

Ballroompirate

Why?

He trolls too much in his reviews, honestly I have no idea why the guy even still has a job.

how was he trolling here?

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#68 uninspiredcup
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Gamers have a very  twisted worldly point of view. if someone disagrees, you attack the person. Rather than logically and objectively receiving the information and filtering out the bullshit, it is a threat to your ego. The thing you like, everyone else must like.

Maybe gamers deserve to be charged out the butt with DLC? It's not like innocent Nuns getting flinched. It's dickheads. Hmm.

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#69 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Why?CaseyWegner

He trolls too much in his reviews, honestly I have no idea why the guy even still has a job.

how was he trolling here?

Really? how many times do we have to say the same crap over.

For starters watch the spoiler cast for TLOU, it clearly shows how much of a tool/troll he is (the reaction of the other two guys is priceless during the spoiler cast)

Also

8yVUsuu.jpg

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#70 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

No hype = No flop

SDC. :cool:

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

uninspiredcup

 

It also equals no sales.

Because anyone thought Rain would be a commercial success with everything coming out this year.
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#71 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

He trolls too much in his reviews, honestly I have no idea why the guy even still has a job.

Ballroompirate

how was he trolling here?

Really? how many times do we have to say the same crap over.

For starters watch the spoiler cast for TLOU, it clearly shows how much of a tool/troll he is (the reaction of the other two guys is priceless during the spoiler cast)

Also

8yVUsuu.jpg

could you please answer the question?

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#72 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

how was he trolling here?

CaseyWegner

Really? how many times do we have to say the same crap over.

For starters watch the spoiler cast for TLOU, it clearly shows how much of a tool/troll he is (the reaction of the other two guys is priceless during the spoiler cast)

Also

8yVUsuu.jpg

could you please answer the question?

I did twice, like how far do I have to dumb down the answers?

If you're talking about Rain, I haven't watched/read the review yet but knowing Tom he has something stupid to say about it.

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#73 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

Really? how many times do we have to say the same crap over.

For starters watch the spoiler cast for TLOU, it clearly shows how much of a tool/troll he is (the reaction of the other two guys is priceless during the spoiler cast)

Also

8yVUsuu.jpg

Ballroompirate

could you please answer the question?

I did twice, like how far do I have to dumb down the answers?

If you're talking about Rain, I haven't watched/read the review yet but knowing Tom he has something stupid to say about it.

that's what i was talking about. did you not see that i asked about how he was trolling "here?" seems pretty simple to me. what's the disconnect? maybe i can help. take a breath. we can try it again.

now you say you didn't even read the review? :|

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#74 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

could you please answer the question?

CaseyWegner

I did twice, like how far do I have to dumb down the answers?

If you're talking about Rain, I haven't watched/read the review yet but knowing Tom he has something stupid to say about it.

that's what i was talking about. did you not see that i asked about how he was trolling "here?" seems pretty simple to me. what's the disconnect? maybe i can help. take a breath. we can try it again.

now you say you didn't even read the review? :|

i didn't

i have read enough mcshea's reviews to know better than wasting my time with another one.

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#75 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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wasn't heavy enough.

LegatoSkyheart

It needed more vampires.

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#76 StrongDeadlift
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Its 73 on Metacritic.  Not sure why people (cows) are acting like Mcshea is far below the threshhold.  :|

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#78 RR360DD
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Its 73 on Metacritic.  Not sure why people (cows) are acting like Mcshea is far below the threshhold.  :|

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Exactly. The game got a 6 on eurogamer, its garbage.
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#79 Allicrombie
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Eh, don't really care about this game, but decent enough score either way. Question though: Does GS only have Kevin, Mcshea and Carolin doing reviews? It seems every other review belongs to them as of late...

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they have a few freelancers as well.
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#80 II_Seraphim_II
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McShea for president!
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#81 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

No hype = No flop

SDC. :cool:

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

lx_theo

 

It also equals no sales.

Because anyone thought Rain would be a commercial success with everything coming out this year.

 

Plenty of pc indie games make killer 1+ million sales.

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#83 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

 

It also equals no sales.

uninspiredcup

Because anyone thought Rain would be a commercial success with everything coming out this year.

 

Plenty of pc indie games make killer 1+ million sales.

Sure. Show me all the 1 million sellers on PC that were $15+, released in the same timeframe as big sellers like The Last of Us, GTAV, Beyond, GT6, Sports games, plus a whole new system. Feel free to show me a situation where a number of titles get 1+ million in a situation like. Feel free. Less bad trolling, please.
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#84 ReadingRainbow4
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damn I had no idea something like this was even coming out, sounds pretty cool.

Love me some stealth games.

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#85 dreamdude
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Been waiting for this.

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#86 Lumpy311
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I wouldn't blame Tom on this one, he seems to be right about this one.

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#87 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I did twice, like how far do I have to dumb down the answers?

If you're talking about Rain, I haven't watched/read the review yet but knowing Tom he has something stupid to say about it.

Krelian-co

that's what i was talking about. did you not see that i asked about how he was trolling "here?" seems pretty simple to me. what's the disconnect? maybe i can help. take a breath. we can try it again.

now you say you didn't even read the review? :|

i didn't

i have read enough mcshea's reviews to know better than wasting my time with another one.

i didn't see anything wrong with this one.

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#88 Jag85
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What's the problem? 7/10 is a good score.

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#89 Lucianu
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Shit, i'm surprised to see people still not recognize 7 for the score it is - a good one. It's been incredibly hard for games to pass a 8 here on GS recently. Makes me happy that they're using the full scale. 

jg4xchamp

Word. Could not agree more. Its such a cop out to just dish out 8-10's for every game with a bit of hype.

Well they still kind of give out 7s pretty easy

Hey now, one baby step at a time. 9s are rare. 8s are starting to get there aswell, like it God damn should. We'll get there soon.

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#90 MonsieurX
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Cows crying about McShea all over again
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#91 Lucianu
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And we have adapted anyway, we all know that any game below 7 is dog escrement unless you're a hardcore fanboy of the franchise, in that case you can ignore all reviews in general.

Gue1

Good thing most reasonable people with a lick of common sense don't agree with that type a logic. Otherwise games like League of Legends wouldn't have one of the biggest communities on Earth, and Nier wouldn't have the cult following it has. And so on.

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#92 Zensword
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people attacking McShea unfairly. IGN gave it a 7 as well
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#93 yokofox33
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I'm still getting it. The atmosphere looks amazing, and I can forgive subpar gameplay and whatnot if the atmosphere is killer.

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#94 Jag85
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Word. Could not agree more. Its such a cop out to just dish out 8-10's for every game with a bit of hype.Lucianu

Well they still kind of give out 7s pretty easy

Hey now, one baby step at a time. 9s are rare. 8s are starting to get there aswell, like it God damn should. We'll get there soon.

I remember the days when reviewers actually used to use the full 10-point (or 5-star) scale... Ever since the internet came, along with its hordes of fanboys, it's rare to see reviewers actually using the full scale.

While a 7/10 may be considered a "bad" score by the usual GameSpot standards, that's actually a good score by the usual Tom McShea standards. After all, this is the same guy who gave Skyward Sword a 7.5 and Last of Us an 8, so by his standards, Rain is only a notch below those games.

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#95 MFDOOM1983
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Sony showing the other console manufacturers how to support a console late in the generation.
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#96 WilliamRLBaker
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One more good game for the PS3.XBOX lololol.AtariKidX
So A games count now?
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#99 EducatingU_PCMR
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Seems like another indie Flop for the IndieStation.

 

If you want a 9.5 game you better get Gone Home, only on MasterRace of course :cool:

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#100 cainetao11
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7 from IGN as well. Oh wait, I mean LOL MORE LIKE TOM MCGAY STUPID DUMB REVIEW bobbetybob
LOL, yeah game HAS to be like an 11