Rainbow Six of old or new??????

Would you like Rainbow Six to go back to its old ways from the first game, Rogue Spear and so on, or keep the new formula they have going without the planning and pre-mission stuff? My choice go back to the old ways of planning your attack and executing a new gameplan everytime you play. Rainbow Six 1 was my first true PC game I ever played back in 1998. So what do you think?

Old. I loved Vegas, dont get me wrong, but i much preferred Rainbow Six on the original Xbox (not including the god-awful lockdown where they tried to make it an arcade shooter). It was such a tense game. I loved the old ghost recon as well.Ninja-Hippo

I never played the older RainbowSix games when they were on PC, whay with always being behind the technology curve on GPUs in my PC. But I'm intruiged with trying out the mission planning.AdobeArtist

Ahhh old Rainbow. The only game that i wouldnt open a door in without flashbangs ...

It was great.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I never played the older RainbowSix games when they were on PC, whay with always being behind the technology curve on GPUs in my PC. But I'm intruiged with trying out the mission planning.jfcundiff

What you describe sounds almost like an RTS, where you assign locations and tasks to various warrior groups, but are never playing as a figure in a real time sense, but being just the war director. In those days, were you not in direct control of the team leader? How did you manage the 3 teams once the action was underway in real time?

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I never played the older RainbowSix games when they were on PC, whay with always being behind the technology curve on GPUs in my PC. But I'm intruiged with trying out the mission planning.AdobeArtist

Whta you describe sounds almost like an RTS, where you assign locations and tasks to various warrior groups. In those days, were you not in direct control of the team leader? How did you manage the 3 teams once the action was underway in real time?

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"] The mission planning was one of my favorite parts. I would have every team doing something different. The 1st misson from the first game, I would have the red and gold team breach the front and blue and green teams go in through the sides. It was crazy trying something new. My only complaint about the old Rainbow Six games though were the stealth missions. I never got into those. Maybe at that age playing them it was not cool. jfcundiff

Whta you describe sounds almost like an RTS, where you assign locations and tasks to various warrior groups. In those days, were you not in direct control of the team leader? How did you manage the 3 teams once the action was underway in real time?

Interesting. So they were also adapting to random elements of sudden tango encounters, considering you don't know where the enemies are when you plan this out?

This also reminds me of Full Spectrum Warrior (a game I did play on Xbox 1) where you switched between controlling the Alpha and Beta, placing them into strategic positions to set up flanking maneuvers, or where one team could provide suppression fire for the other to make their getaway.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I never played the older RainbowSix games when they were on PC, whay with always being behind the technology curve on GPUs in my PC. But I'm intruiged with trying out the mission planning.AdobeArtist

What you describe sounds almost like an RTS, where you assign locations and tasks to various warrior groups, but are never playing as a figure in a real time sense, but being just the war director. In those days, were you not in direct control of the team leader? How did you manage the 3 teams once the action was underway in real time?

You could cycle between teams if you wanted to control one directly from what I remember.

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Whta you describe sounds almost like an RTS, where you assign locations and tasks to various warrior groups. In those days, were you not in direct control of the team leader? How did you manage the 3 teams once the action was underway in real time?

AdobeArtist

Interesting. So they were also adapting to random elements of sudden tango encounters, considering you don't know where the enemies are when you plan this out?

This also reminds me of Full Spectrum Warrior (a game I did play on Xbox 1) where you switched between controlling the Alpha and Beta, placing them into strategic positions to set up flanking maneuvers, or where one team could provide suppression fire for the other to make their getaway.

Full Spectrum Warrior is a true RTS(I own it). Rainbow Six was a FPS at heart with great pre mission planning where you could set where a team would go throughout the mission and tell them how to enter and clear a room, rescue hostages, go to extraction, etc. Then ingame the teams that you do not control would do exactly what you planned.

The mission planning was one of my favorite parts. I would have every team doing something different. The 1st misson from the first game, I would have the red and gold team breach the front and blue and green teams go in through the sides. It was crazy trying something new. My only complaint about the old Rainbow Six games though were the stealth missions. I never got into those. Maybe at that age playing them it was not cool. jfcundiff

What you describe sounds almost like an RTS, where you assign locations and tasks to various warrior groups, but are never playing as a figure in a real time sense, but being just the war director. In those days, were you not in direct control of the team leader? How did you manage the 3 teams once the action was underway in real time?

You could cycle between teams if you wanted to control one directly from what I remember.

I demand that Ubisoft makes a Rainbow Six game with pre mission planning this generation. I would finally love Rainbow Six again. jfcundiff

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"]I demand that Ubisoft makes a Rainbow Six game with pre mission planning this generation. I would finally love Rainbow Six again. Ninja-Hippo

OLD OLD OLD OLD *gasp* OLD OLD old old old.

Yeah.

I used to be a MASSIVE fan of the originals - own all the previous expansions and titles prior to Vegas 2.

Pretty much spent loads of earlier year playing the originals - The first and Eagle Watch especially.

R6 used to be a fantastic tactical shooter, hell bent on providing an authentic, realistic experience, without compromising to the lowest common denominator gamer.

Oh how times have changed. At least I can still re-install RavenShield or Rouge Spear (and the Temporary Tango mod).

Hard decision so imma say both. The changes they made with Vegas were awesome, the weapons, shooting, the cover system are all great. And I loved the old ones. The multple teams and the planning were fun tho, I remember the mission in the skyscraper where you had to disable the alarm or something before you could attack any tangos and having one team go straight to the alarm while the other would wait and take out the bad guys after it was done.

They need a fusion of both. And the MP in Vegas is just so much damn fun I love it. I want more of it.

I'm not sure actaully - both were/are pretty cool. Maybe they should have some a bit of both. Missons were you plan the whole thing out and then missons where things fall apart a bit and you have to think on your feet.

Trouble is, I think devs these days try make games as user friendly as possible to appeal to the biggest user base and thus sales.

I'm not sure actaully - both were/are pretty cool. Maybe they should have some a bit of both. Missons were you plan the whole thing out and then missons where things fall apart a bit and you have to think on your feet.

Trouble is, I think devs these days try make games as user friendly as possible to appeal to the biggest user base and thus sales.

I like the new ones better. I haven't played the old ones much, but they seemed like terrorist hunt with pre planning.II-FBIsniper-II

Which well, you cannot say about Vegas; which taught me in a hostage rescue its okay to swing and smash through a large window with all guns blazing, on a zip line, with only two team mates. And that taking cover constantly, and blind-firing widly is better than something called 'planning and tactics'

I prefer the old ones. They were pretty much the ultimate tactical shooters. The new ones aren't realistic or even truly tactical shooters, they've turned into arcade shooters, Vegas is good game on it's own, but it has more in common with Call of Duty than old RainbowSix. Heck...CoD4 on hardcore is actualy more of an realistic tactical shooter than Vegas is AdrianWerner

Hmmm, let me think about this for a second....

OOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the possible exception of SWAT 4, no game can provide the satisfaction of a perfectly executed plan in Raven Shield.

Hmmm, let me think about this for a second....

OOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the possible exception of SWAT 4, no game can provide the satisfaction of a perfectly executed plan in Raven Shield.

PBSnipes

That and this thread needs some more Hidden and Dangerous 1/2 love.

Thats the biggest bs ever im sorry but CoD4 on hardcore doesnt even come close to normal vegas MP much less the High Stakes MP which requires you to almost always aim down the sight or else you miss. XturnalS

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Hmmm, let me think about this for a second....

OOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the possible exception of SWAT 4, no game can provide the satisfaction of a perfectly executed plan in Raven Shield.

skrat_01

That and this thread needs some more Hidden and Dangerous 1/2 love.

SWAT3/4 and Sabre Squadron are ultimate co-op shooters experiences