RB6 Vegas : So Is It Safe To Declare X360 The Winner (Graphics Wise)?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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compared to PS3, or there is still a debate after watching the comparison video?

P.S. for the uninitiated (http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/06/rainbow-six-vegas-ps3-vs-xbox-360.html)

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#2 danneswegman
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it's just very hard to port from 360 to PS3. if this proves anything, it's that PS3 is complicated to develop for/ port to
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#3 Strife88
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even If the graphics are better on the PS3, you're still missing one thing man. The multiplayer is solid on the 360.
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#4 Kayrod29
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This just makes me laugh, it really does. We had this game since November and the ps3 boys are getting it now? I don't even care which one is better, we already played the hell out of this game.
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compared to PS3, or there is still a debate after watching the comparison video?

P.S. for the uninitiated (http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/06/rainbow-six-vegas-ps3-vs-xbox-360.html)

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For this particular game it would appear safe to say PS3 has the inferior version. That really sux considering there were like 8 delays amonunting to more than 6 months total. I heard the game looks better in 720p but I won't make excuses. This looks like a bad port. Ubisoft has said several times how they're disappointed with the PS3's sales and I guess this shows it. After all, why develop a AAA product for a user base that you deem is insignificant. I won't be picking up this game. Too many actual good looking games coming.  

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#6 CyanX73
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This just makes me laugh, it really does. We had this game since November and the ps3 boys are getting it now? I don't even care which one is better, we already played the hell out of this game.Kayrod29

 

Exactly. The fact that after all those delays the game is going to be inferior only adds insult to injury.  

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#7 Bread_or_Decide
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This should be the only year that the PS3 is dumped with all these XBOX 360 ports. From here on out all the multiplats are being developed on both consoles and released at the same time so their should be less of a difference between the two.

 

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#8 dubvisions
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IS it worth anything if the video was created and uploaded by a fanboy??  I'll believe it when and actual website creates the video.  Not some user who uploaded it.
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#9 Caseytappy
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Well , if Cows keep blaming the devs another 5 years they will be safe untill the PS4 .

 

They only had 6 months extra dev time on this for the mighty powerhouse called PS3 so who can blame them :roll:

 

 

 

 

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#10 castlevaniaX
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even If the graphics are better on the PS3, you're still missing one thing man. The multiplayer is solid on the 360.Strife88

here we go ...

First, it was the price

Second, it was the gpu

Now, it's multiplayer

Tomorrow, it will be sony

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#11 deactivated-59603ff9b9423
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Devs had an extra year to bring out the 360's potential. Enough said. 
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#12 CyanX73
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Well , if Cows keep blaming the devs another 5 years they will be safe untill the PS4 .

 

They only had 6 months extra dev time on this for the mighty powerhouse called PS3 so who can blame them :roll:

 

 

 

 

Caseytappy

 

You're right. Can't blame devs. After all, all games out or coming out for the PS3 look as graphically inferior as RV6 :roll:

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#13 deactivated-59603ff9b9423
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You obviously haven't heard of FFXIII.
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#14 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

Well , if Cows keep blaming the devs another 5 years they will be safe untill the PS4 .

 

They only had 6 months extra dev time on this for the mighty powerhouse called PS3 so who can blame them :roll:

 

 

 

 

CyanX73

 

You're right. Can't blame devs. After all, all games out or coming out for the PS3 look as graphically inferior as RV6 :roll:

It seems like the 360 version is running in HD and the PS3 version isn't. I don't see how a game in HD isn't highlighting more of the detail. Its obviousl there, its just not being brough out properly.

 

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i disagree with that video... ps3 graphics look more 4D-ish
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#16 SecretPolice
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i disagree with that video... ps3 graphics look more 4D-ishdirty_diaz
     LOL 4REAL :)
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#17 TheCrazed420
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It could have been a different camera used to capture the video. The detail all looked the same, it was just underexposed on the ps3 vid.
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#18 retrib
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compared to PS3, or there is still a debate after watching the comparison video?

P.S. for the uninitiated (http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/06/rainbow-six-vegas-ps3-vs-xbox-360.html)

Mystery_Writer

look at this http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=14473&type=wmv&pl=game = 360 version. 

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#20 e20Dylan
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IGN said it was the same. it even looks the same. these videos are trash
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#21 retrib
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IGN said it was the same. it even looks the same. these videos are trashe20Dylan

The comparison was trash, the videos I saw for the PS3 version look excellent. 

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#22 e20Dylan
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lemmings can get away with saying fear and splinter cell werent as good but thats about it. they took alot of time on vegas it obviously looks good. ill definately be picking it up
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#23 retrib
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lemmings can get away with saying fear and splinter cell werent as good but thats about it. they took alot of time on vegas it obviously looks good. ill definately be picking it upe20Dylan

Me too, I've been waiting for this game since february. 

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[QUOTE="e20Dylan"]IGN said it was the same. it even looks the same. these videos are trashretrib

The comparison was trash, the videos I saw for the PS3 version look excellent.

 

no, IGN said it looks ALMOST the same... 

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#25 e20Dylan
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here is another review

"Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas is ready for release on our PS3.  The PS3 version was finally revealed at SGD and playable copies are in the hands of reviewers.

First, the game is almost identical to its X360 cousin in looks, feel and speed BUT there is some new content (which reviewers are under NDA and can't reveal) but they involve online multiplayer play and changes to single and coop modes."

yall can be haters all you want. we even get extra content plus sixaxis use.

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#26 daveg1
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the 360 has the better gpu.

and it shows.

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#27 e20Dylan
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the only difference is in the lighting. and it doesnt mean the 360 version is better i happen to ilke the way they do the ps3 lighting it looks more realistic without a glow on there face
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#28 retrib
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the 360 has the better gpu.

and it shows.

daveg1

have all your 15k posts been like this? 

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#29 Gamer556
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The 360's advantages are extremely small in that comparison, but I do think it is a better machine nonetheless.
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#30 squallff8_fan
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Well , if Cows keep blaming the devs another 5 years they will be safe untill the PS4 .

 

They only had 6 months extra dev time on this for the mighty powerhouse called PS3 so who can blame them :roll:

 

 

 

 

Caseytappy

Its still a port. Anyone remember ps2 games ported to xbox games? Yeah and how did that turn out, most xbox games looked hoorible when ps2 games were ported to it. So u get where im coming from. Ports suck ass, its up to the devs to do a good job or a half ass job, and Rainbow 6 Vegas was just a slight difference.

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it's just very hard to port from 360 to PS3. if this proves anything, it's that PS3 is complicated to develop for/ port todanneswegman

It was on the PC before it was on the 360!

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[QUOTE="danneswegman"]it's just very hard to port from 360 to PS3. if this proves anything, it's that PS3 is complicated to develop for/ port todaytona_178

It was on the PC before it was on the 360!

Yes but the xbox 360 hardware is almost the same as a pc, so there for making it easy for devs to port it over.

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#33 Ontain
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[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

Well , if Cows keep blaming the devs another 5 years they will be safe untill the PS4 .

 

They only had 6 months extra dev time on this for the mighty powerhouse called PS3 so who can blame them :roll:

 

 

 

 

Bread_or_Decide

 

You're right. Can't blame devs. After all, all games out or coming out for the PS3 look as graphically inferior as RV6 :roll:

It seems like the 360 version is running in HD and the PS3 version isn't. I don't see how a game in HD isn't highlighting more of the detail. Its obviousl there, its just not being brough out properly.

 

HD doesn't mean that textures are better. that's a different issue. this probably has to do with they wanting to port quickly and the ps3's memory isn't flexible enough to them to directly use the textures from the 360 game. and being is HD or not should not have effected the red light casted on the face of that character in the end. 

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#34 Eltroz
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Well the 360 having more ram and a better GPU and the PS3 having a console that is hard to develop for is really showing.
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#35 e20Dylan
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

Well , if Cows keep blaming the devs another 5 years they will be safe untill the PS4 .

 

They only had 6 months extra dev time on this for the mighty powerhouse called PS3 so who can blame them :roll:

 

 

 

 

Ontain

 

You're right. Can't blame devs. After all, all games out or coming out for the PS3 look as graphically inferior as RV6 :roll:

It seems like the 360 version is running in HD and the PS3 version isn't. I don't see how a game in HD isn't highlighting more of the detail. Its obviousl there, its just not being brough out properly.

 

HD doesn't mean that textures are better. that's a different issue. this probably has to do with they wanting to port quickly and the ps3's memory isn't flexible enough to them to directly use the textures from the 360 game. and being is HD or not should not have effected the red light casted on the face of that character in the end. 

who wants a red light on a face anyway? looks unrealistic compared to the ps3 face

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#36 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]

the 360 has the better gpu.

and it shows.

retrib

have all your 15k posts been like this? 

i like to get to the point quickly when stating facts.....
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#37 e20Dylan
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[QUOTE="retrib"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

the 360 has the better gpu.

and it shows.

daveg1

have all your 15k posts been like this? 

i like to get to the point quickly when stating facts.....

did you just say facts? lol prove it

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#38 el_rika
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"360 has more vibrant colors which makes you feel like you're in vegas" - i laughed sooo hard reading this LOL :lol: ...the guy that wrote that must be a complete retard lol.

 Anyway, the only REAL difference between the 2 versions is that the PS3 version has more post processing effects, namely more depth of field (which makes it look like a film) and that's why those lights are blured, 'cose they are out of focus.

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#39 GermanShepard06
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its not safe, RB6 is a port, it was not build around the ps3 hardware.

 

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#40 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="retrib"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

the 360 has the better gpu.

and it shows.

e20Dylan

have all your 15k posts been like this? 

i like to get to the point quickly when stating facts.....

did you just say facts? lol prove it

where have you been???

i should'nt  need to dig up links to anyone who comes here or any other gameing forum about how the 360's gpu is better than the ps3's.....................:?

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#41 Eltroz
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its not safe, RB6 is a port, it was not build around the ps3 hardware.

 

GermanShepard06
So shouldn't the super computer PS3 be able to handle a port?
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[QUOTE="danneswegman"]it's just very hard to port from 360 to PS3. if this proves anything, it's that PS3 is complicated to develop for/ port todaytona_178

It was on the PC before it was on the 360!

 

yeah, but that's not a problem

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#43 fresherfish
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"UE3 runs superior on the PS3 compared to high end PC's let alone the crappy 360" was all I heard from PS3 fanboys when Gears came out. What happened? And can anyone prove this is a port? Unreal engine 3 is a multiplatform engine and this game was originally supposed to be a simultaneous release at first, hence not a port.
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

compared to PS3, or there is still a debate after watching the comparison video?

P.S. for the uninitiated (http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/06/rainbow-six-vegas-ps3-vs-xbox-360.html)

CyanX73

 

For this particular game it would appear safe to say PS3 has the inferior version. That really sux considering there were like 8 delays amonunting to more than 6 months total. I heard the game looks better in 720p but I won't make excuses. This looks like a bad port. Ubisoft has said several times how they're disappointed with the PS3's sales and I guess this shows it. After all, why develop a AAA product for a user base that you deem is insignificant. I won't be picking up this game. Too many actual good looking games coming.

You have my respect bud, you can at least admit when something about the PS3 ain't too great. Few people on SW would do the same, they get all defensive/delusional when bad news about their console comes up.

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#45 Ryusuken
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

its not safe, RB6 is a port, it was not build around the ps3 hardware.

 

Eltroz

So shouldn't the super computer PS3 be able to handle a port?

If the developers dont put effort into it, its not happening. Besides the fanboyism here, what else do you have? Interesting enough, there are other sites saying is pretty much the same thing, bar a few glitches here and there. Fanboyism FTL.

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#46 retrib
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

its not safe, RB6 is a port, it was not build around the ps3 hardware.

Eltroz

So shouldn't the super computer PS3 be able to handle a port?

You can put this game on a system 1000 more powerful than a 360 and you'll still be present with problems if the architecture is that hugely different.

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#47 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

its not safe, RB6 is a port, it was not build around the ps3 hardware.

Ryusuken

So shouldn't the super computer PS3 be able to handle a port?

If the developers dont put effort into it, its not happening. Besides the fanboyism here, what else do you have? Interesting enough, there are other sites saying is pretty muchthe same thing, bar a few glitches here and there. Fanboyism FTL.

Well lets see there is a video showing the difference. I have read how it gets choppy in the action parts. Also it does not run as well in 1080 then the 360 does. Also you say the developers did not put effort in? 360 had this game in Nov and now PS3 is just getting it. How much more time does the PS3 need? I know cows are used to waiting but do cows really need to wait a year for every port? Also on the developers did not put effort in as you said. Maybe it is just a system that is not ready. The 360 has better GPU and more ram to use. Also many developers said the PS3 is hard to develop for. Blame that on Sony not the developers.Some cows say they should have worked harder. Why should a developer spend far more money developing for the smallest installed base of all 4 systems. Sony should have made it easier to develop on.
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[QUOTE="Kayrod29"]This just makes me laugh, it really does. We had this game since November and the ps3 boys are getting it now? I don't even care which one is better, we already played the hell out of this game.CyanX73

Exactly. The fact that after all those delays the game is going to be inferior only adds insult to injury.

i'd really like to hearyou guys say that when HAZE is out on 360 :|

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#49 LuvGaming
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It's already been stated that the PS3 has a different hardware architecture when compared to the PC and 360. When a game is ported over to the PS3 from the 360/PC it will be very difficult for developers to create a perfect port since the game was never developed with the PS3 in mind. You also have to keep in mind that the developer is not about to commit a lot of man hours to the PS3 port since the userbase isn't there to for the developer to even make any kind of profit.
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#50 Apillow
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Neither system wins with this game. It's graphics are horrible online compared to the single player. The game plays like an arcade style shooter online. So who really cares if it looks better on 360 then PS3. They both looks like crap.