Re: All the recent hate / love towards FFXIII

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#1 Omnisystem
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Recently there have been multiple threads complaining about the XBOX360 hindering FFXIII from what it would have been if it was just on the PS3 and several threads defending Square Enix by pointing out the lip syncing for the English language. Although there are several other things being pointed out, these two seem to be the most prominent ones.

Everyone is forgetting something however....

Square Enix has sucked for the most part ever since they became Square Enix from Squaresoft.

The last great game to come from the company was Final Fantasy X. Obviously FFXIII will most likely receive high praise from reviewers like the rest just because it is from a former great company and the fact that it is named in arguably the greated JRPG franchise of all time.

We, the gamers, just need to face the fact that it will most likely suck just as XII did compared to previous titles such as VI, VII, VIII, IX, and X. So lets stop arguing over a game that will be a letdown as X-2, XI, and XII have been and stop thinking of Square Enix to be one of the elite developers that they once were.

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#2 67gt500
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Here's an idea... why don't we wait until the game is out and everyone concerned has had a fair chance to evaluate it on it's own merits?
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#3 -Oath
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The fail is strong with this one.

Well you heard it ppl, FFXIII is probably going to suck because TC believes S-E is a crap company.

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#4 funsohng
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last time i checked, FF13 was not out yet
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#5 Omnisystem
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I am just going by the recent history of the last...5 years of the company. Most games released by Square Enix after FFX have been crap.

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#6 dr_mindbender12
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I am just going by the recent history of the last...5 years of the company. Most games released by Square Enix after FFX have been crap.

Omnisystem

You must not have heard that the team that's making FFXIII is almost the exact same team that made FFX.

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Final Fantasy has always been one of those franchises that receives great fanfare and acclaim, but can never appeal to everyone as universally as games like...

Well, has there ever been a game that's universally praised? Some Zelda games? Some Mario games? Half-Life? Eh...

Personally, I didn't enjoy XII, but I loved X.

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#8 FF6fan
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How have the games been crap? because you didn't like them...FFXII while no where near the greatest FF is a great quality game. FFXI is/was a great MMORPG on consoles. Kingdom Hearts introduced some pretty cool concepts and was not crap. FFIII and FFIV on the DS weren't crap. What crap games are you talking about? I'm guessing your referring to Last Remnant which was not developed by Square only published.
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This is full of fail. Final Fantasy X was awful IMO. Yes Square and Enix has gone downhill since the merger. But saying FFX was the last good title in going to far (especially since one of their worse). Square-Enix has put out some decent titles since then. Valkyrie Profile 2, FFXII, Dragon Quest 9 and the World Ends with You were pretty good. As for FFXIII it looks good and hopefully the story is better than FFX.

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#10 WilliamRLBaker
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Recently there have been multiple threads complaining about the XBOX360 hindering FFXIII from what it would have been if it was just on the PS3 and several threads defending Square Enix by pointing out the lip syncing for the English language. Although there are several other things being pointed out, these two seem to be the most prominent ones.

Everyone is forgetting something however....

Square Enix has sucked for the most part ever since they became Square Enix from Squaresoft.

The last great game to come from the company was Final Fantasy X. Obviously FFXIII will most likely receive high praise from reviewers like the rest just because it is from a former great company and the fact that it is named in arguably the greated JRPG franchise of all time.

We, the gamers, just need to face the fact that it will most likely suck just as XII did compared to previous titles such as VI, VII, VIII, IX, and X. So lets stop arguing over a game that will be a letdown as X-2, XI, and XII have been and stop thinking of Square Enix to be one of the elite developers that they once were.

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yes and one of those threads posted by you which further spread the false drivel that the game was being cut because of the 360 when all that happend was that no dual audio would be included which is nothing new since NO final fantasy game has included both japanese and english.
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#11 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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i enjoyed FF XII and KH2 so just there your thread made no sense

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XII would have been the best Final Fantasy to date if their writer didn't leave halfwaythrough. Seriously, aside from the plot, that game is a beacon of quality. XIII doesn't have those problems and should be amazing.

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XII would have been the best Final Fantasy to date if their writer didn't leave halfwaythrough. Seriously, aside from the plot, that game is a beacon of quality. XIII doesn't have those problems and should be amazing.

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This. While some of SE's latest games like The Last Remnant and Star Ocean have been decent, I don't think they've been total crap.
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#14 NielsNL
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Recently there have been multiple threads complaining about the XBOX360 hindering FFXIII from what it would have been if it was just on the PS3 and several threads defending Square Enix by pointing out the lip syncing for the English language. Although there are several other things being pointed out, these two seem to be the most prominent ones.

Everyone is forgetting something however....

Square Enix has sucked for the most part ever since they became Square Enix from Squaresoft.

The last great game to come from the company was Final Fantasy X. Obviously FFXIII will most likely receive high praise from reviewers like the rest just because it is from a former great company and the fact that it is named in arguably the greated JRPG franchise of all time.

We, the gamers, just need to face the fact that it will most likely suck just as XII did compared to previous titles such as VI, VII, VIII, IX, and X. So lets stop arguing over a game that will be a letdown as X-2, XI, and XII have been and stop thinking of Square Enix to be one of the elite developers that they once were.

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I never played XI myself, but I'm pretty sure yoú haven't too. Why would you say it sucks? You don't know it.

The reason why my guess is that you never played it is the simple fact that EVERY SINGLE PERSON I know that plays or played it, loved it. You shouldn't criticize that which you don't know.

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#15 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

XII would have been the best Final Fantasy to date if their writer didn't leave halfwaythrough. Seriously, aside from the plot, that game is a beacon of quality. XIII doesn't have those problems and should be amazing.

siLVURcross

This. While some of SE's latest games like The Last Remnant and Star Ocean have been decent, I don't think they've been total crap.

Besides, LR is a different dev team and Star Ocean is done by Tri Ace.

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#16 110million
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I didn't like FFX actually, I liked 11, 12, SO3, SO4, TLR, just about every big SE release, so I completely disagree. I've been hyped for FFXIII since day one, it going multiplat or being hindered or whatever doesn't effect me in the slightest, I know SE releases awesome games, so I don't care about all these topics.

Edit: And I know they aren't all the "Square" team, but this is a topic about SE.

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#17 double_heist
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

XII would have been the best Final Fantasy to date if their writer didn't leave halfwaythrough. Seriously, aside from the plot, that game is a beacon of quality. XIII doesn't have those problems and should be amazing.

hakanakumono

This. While some of SE's latest games like The Last Remnant and Star Ocean have been decent, I don't think they've been total crap.

Besides, LR is a different dev team and Star Ocean is done by Tri Ace.

TLR is by the SaGa team if I remember correctly. Their games have been.... mediocre in quality according to many? (but I loved SaGa Frontier 1) But for me, I didn't like FFXII, I preferred the ATB/Turn Based battle of the FF series, which I found the highlight of the FF series.
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#18 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"] This. While some of SE's latest games like The Last Remnant and Star Ocean have been decent, I don't think they've been total crap.double_heist

Besides, LR is a different dev team and Star Ocean is done by Tri Ace.

TLR is by the SaGa team if I remember correctly. Their games have been.... mediocre in quality according to many? (but I loved SaGa Frontier 1) But for me, I didn't like FFXII, I preferred the ATB/Turn Based battle of the FF series, which I found the highlight of the FF series.

Regardless, XII's battle system was extremely well done.