reactions to mw2 terrorist level

[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]you wouldn't find it so funny if you where on the wrong end of a burst from an AK, i know, i was, in a country very, very close to my own, fortunately they missed.delta3074

You expect me to believe that, don't you? :roll:

Ever been in a situation that involves terrorism?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

You expect me to believe that, don't you? :roll:

Propaganda_

Ever been in a situation that involves terrorism?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

You expect me to believe that, don't you? :roll:

Propaganda_

Ever been in a situation that involves terrorism?

[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i was in the british army between 1992 and 1998, ever heard of a place called dungannon in NI?, everybody had to do a tour there, ever heard of the IRA? would you like to know what so significant about the 3074 in my name? its not just a random number, your a clever chap, or so you say, why don't you do some reasearch and figure it out, beside why would i care if you believe me or not, i don't mind because you don't matterdelta3074

Ever been in a situation that involves terrorism?

Just answer the question.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

Ever been in a situation that involves terrorism?

Propaganda_

Just answer the question.

[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]the IRA are terrorists,lol, you should read up your history on northern ireland, and the british armys involvement there,OMG, i thought everyone knew who the IRA wheredelta3074

Just answer the question.

What I was interested in, though, was, how does a person like you, that has been in a similar position, react when you see such things in a game like Modern Warfare 2? Have you seen the video?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

Just answer the question.

Propaganda_

What I was interested in, though, was, how does a person like you, that has been in a similar position, react when you see such things in a game like Modern Warfare 2? Have you seen the video?

l'll buy it but i will skip said mission cause i just dont agree with it at all.

razgriz_101

What I was interested in, though, was, how does a person like you, that has been in a similar position, react when you see such things in a game like Modern Warfare 2? Have you seen the video?

Propaganda_

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

l'll buy it but i will skip said mission cause i just dont agree with it at all.

planbfreak4eva

I wonder what the reaction would be like if a WWII game was released that allowed you to play as a Nazi?x-2tha-z

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I wonder what the reaction would be like if a WWII game was released that allowed you to play as a Nazi?delta3074

I wasn't going to buy the game until I heard about this level.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I wonder what the reaction would be like if a WWII game was released that allowed you to play as a Nazi?x-2tha-z

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="delta3074"]already happened, one of thr brothers in arms games allowed you to play as the vermacht, not within the storyline though, in the 'instant action' missions and it didn't involve murdering civilians.delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Not a true depiction of Nazi's then.x-2tha-z

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Not a true depiction of Nazi's then.x-2tha-z

Its naive to think that soldiers at the time had a choice in choosing what they were to do. See in the army and in times of war not following your leaders orders is treason and that generally does not end well.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="delta3074"]most of the german vermacht where not nazi's, most of them never even saw a jew, let alone murdered them, the vermacht where just normal frontline soldiers doing there job and where not even affiliated with the nazi party, it is a very naive person that thinks everyone in the german army was responsible for murdering innocent cuvilians, that sort of work was reserved for the SS, not the vermacht, there was an incedent towards the end of the war, when a german vermcht unit realised the americans where closing in, they turned on the SS and saved quite a few jewish innocents from a concentration camp, i am not sure of the exact details, the story came from my grandfather, he was a polish jew who fled poland and joined the british army, he was serving in and around berlin in the last days of the warrzepak

Its naive to think that soldiers at the time had a choice in choosing what they were to do. See in the army and in times of war not following your leaders orders is treason and that generally does not end well.

[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

It's relatively awesome. People shouldn't get upset. :)

razgriz_101

you really need your head checked....just go lick IW's ass more.I dont agree with it cause i think its morally wrong and tbh i think its glorifying terrorism.

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

l'll buy it but i will skip said mission cause i just dont agree with it at all.

Ninja-Hippo

Comparisons to GTA and fallout are stupid. CoD is and always has been from the get-go a more serious and mature title. Killing whoever you want in GTA is what you're SUPPOSED to do. It just doesn't feel right in a CoD game. Either way, until I play it, I'll give IW the benefit of the doubt and trust they put the scene into context.

Regardless, if you are not disturbed by the video or by the idea of shooting civilians then you probably shouldn't be playing this game because you are not old enough. Either that or you are an attention-whoring "rebel badass" that should go back to your GTA.

Regardless, if you are not disturbed by the video or by the idea of shooting civilians then you probably shouldn't be playing this game because you are not old enough. Either that or you are an attention-whoring "rebel badass" that should go back to your GTA.omarguy01

[QUOTE="omarguy01"]Regardless, if you are not disturbed by the video or by the idea of shooting civilians then you probably shouldn't be playing this game because you are not old enough. Either that or you are an attention-whoring "rebel badass" that should go back to your GTA.toast_burner

Regardless, if you are not disturbed by the video or by the idea of shooting civilians then you probably shouldn't be playing this game because you are not old enough. Either that or you are an attention-whoring "rebel badass" that should go back to your GTA.omarguy01

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Why would you be disturbed? there not real civilians getting killed.

toast_burner

I'll play it, how i haven't decided yet, and i haven't seen the whole video just the very beginning of it, don't wanna spoil the story.

needless to say, i'm vey interested in going through it, not because it's fun to kill civilians but because it's a very interesting way of trying to illicit an emotion from me.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] It's the idea of it all that's disturbing.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"] hardlytoast_burner

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] I'm guessing you're one of those kids that doesn't find movies like Full Metal Jacket disturbing because he doesn't understand how ****** up everything that's going on is.

AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm, seeing a man attempting to drag his injured wife to safety while the player continues shoot unarmed civilians isn't disturbing? Seriously?toast_burner

You must be a very boring person then if you go around watching/reading various forms of entertainment goin "oh its just pixels moving on a screen. Oh they're just actors pretending to die. oh this character doesnt really exist"

you are missing the point of the medium entirely

The level is certainly exploitative, but I don't view it as "wrong"; I'll play through it.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm, seeing a man attempting to drag his injured wife to safety while the player continues shoot unarmed civilians isn't disturbing? Seriously?omarguy01

You must be a very boring person then if you go around watching/reading various forms of entertainment goin "oh its just pixels moving on a screen. Oh they're just actors pretending to die. oh this character doesnt really exist"

you are missing the point of the medium entirely

to make it effective they need you to think that the characters that are dieing are real people. from what ive seen they could replace all the people in that scene with chickens and it wouldnt make a difference to me.

just shooting a bunch of screaming people nothing disturbing. or any thing.

toast_burner

well i've done all i can do :/

if you dont think that's disturbing then i really dont know what to say. you win i guess.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

just shooting a bunch of screaming people nothing disturbing. or any thing.

well i've done all i can do :/

if you dont think that's disturbing then i really dont know what to say. you win i guess.

[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i was shot at by one, same as almost every british soldier that did a tour in northern ireland, i don't talk abou it much, but just this once, i was patrolling just outside of dungannon, i wasn't paying as much attention as i should be, the guy caught me dead bang, and all i could do was cower behind a wall, luckily for me i was with a stirling bunch of blokes who got my backside out, there are you satisfied? , be thankful i am not going to risk getting moderated to tell you what i think of you.delta3074

What I was interested in, though, was, how does a person like you, that has been in a similar position, react when you see such things in a game like Modern Warfare 2? Have you seen the video?

OK, that was fascinating. It's what I wanted to know. :)

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]everyone played counter strike and you can play as terrorists or as counter terrorists...nobody cared if they were counter or if they were terrorists, and somehow ppl now think to skip a lvl just not to be a terrorist....what gives?Birdy09

Precisely - you're not obliged to. In this game, however, you will be. Sort of.

seriously guys, whats the difference between this and mario jumping on a goomba? :P

seriously guys, whats the difference between this and mario jumping on a goomba? :P

mammojo

A lot, buddy. ;)

[QUOTE="omarguy01"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"] yes it is. but seeing a digital man who was programed to die is not.

toast_burner

You must be a very boring person then if you go around watching/reading various forms of entertainment goin "oh its just pixels moving on a screen. Oh they're just actors pretending to die. oh this character doesnt really exist"

you are missing the point of the medium entirely

to make it effective they need you to think that the characters that are dieing are real people. from what ive seen they could replace all the people in that scene with chickens and it wouldnt make a difference to me.

so if you see a water-painting of the same event on some canvas somewhere titled "Terror" it would not emote anything to you. When you see a painting do you see just a bunch of paper and chemicals, i mean it's not a real thing or anything.

All i've done is change the medium.

I know characters in the game are just pixels and they could of just easily put chickens in there. but here's the thing... they didn't. when you play the game your arn't seeing chickens clucking around, your seeing people trying to 'realistically' GTFO. so your still saying it doesn't emote any emotion from you? it doesn't make the game anymore interesting or horrific or exciting for you? If that is the case.... then damn i guess you hate the little thing called imagination.... i mean pressing buttons is so much more thrilling. how boring.

[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i was in the british army between 1992 and 1998, ever heard of a place called dungannon in NI?, everybody had to do a tour there, ever heard of the IRA? would you like to know what so significant about the 3074 in my name? its not just a random number, your a clever chap, or so you say, why don't you do some reasearch and figure it out, beside why would i care if you believe me or not, i don't mind because you don't matterdelta3074

Ever been in a situation that involves terrorism?

You know what they say, one persons terrorist is another person's liberator. Unless one side kills a lot of civilians (at least more than the other guys), than those guys are justterrorists.