Reality check for fanboys.... the Wii is UNSTOPPABLE

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#1 jedigemini
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It's been sold out since it's release,

it's the fastest selling console of all time,

it's flood of big games havent even been released yet,

it will always be cheaper than the competition,

the media adores it,

it reaches a huge sales demographic,

and third party support is only getting better.

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#2 dracula_16
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That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

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#3 foxhound_fox
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And its games can only go so far...
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#4 magiciandude
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jedige, do you enjoy giving sheep a bad name?
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#5 dagast2
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I'll eventually buy a Wii, but for the moment it really has nothing that appeals to me.
I think the majority of the people that bought a Wii are starting to feel some buyers remorse, they saw one on the shelf, had heard stories about how hard they were to find and jumped into it without checking the games that are/will be available.

I predict that the Wii will sell well, but will fall way short of the PS2's total sales numbers.

The only reason it's still seen as super popular is the current shortage of systems, which may or may not be artificially created by Nintendo.

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#6 KJAX90
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That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

dracula_16

Zelda, SPM, RE4, Wario Ware, Madden...there's still more. :|

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#7 KirbyFan10101
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The Wii won't be the next PS2, because it won't have the exlcusive third party support the PS2 had over its competition.
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#8 fierro316
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Not even sheep like the TC. Sad.
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#9 D00nut
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So? In reality we only care about games...and I don't see many of them worthwhile on the Wii.

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#10 mexicangordo
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jedige, do you enjoy giving sheep a bad name?magiciandude
Well im no sheep, but i wouldnt attack the man because he actualy has good points. Hes right, sales wise the Wii will probably be unbeatable, but that doesnt make it the best system out there.
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#11 dracula_16
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

KJAX90

Zelda, SPM, RE4, Wario Ware, Madden...there's still more. :|

Zelda: I agree- I love that game

Super Paper Mario: I agree

Warioware: it's a bunch of mini games (or "micro games"if you want to get technical)

Madden 07: It's the same game as the other versions but without online play

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#12 Steelspike
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My Wii is collecting dust right now... I havn't played it for a while now and Zelda was not as good as I hoped it would have been. Compared to the other consoles, it doesn't get the 3rd party support that it should due to the lack of "next gen hardware" incorporated into its design.

Yes the Wii will always sell because parents are the ones that buy it for their children.. because it is more kid friendly... and parents really look at that aspect when purchasing a consol for their kids. Thats the big reason for the Wii selling so well... and its low price also appeals to people that are on a tight budget.

In my perspective online is so fun to play on the 360, which allows for much more replayability for games. The Wii severly lacks a good online experience which makes the games seem less enjoyable.

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#13 KJAX90
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[QUOTE="KJAX90"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

dracula_16

Zelda, SPM, RE4, Wario Ware, Madden...there's still more. :|

Zelda: I agree- I love that game

Super Paper Mario: I agree

Warioware: it's a bunch of mini games (or "micro games"if you want to get technical)

Madden 07: It's the same game as the other versions but without online play

Well, just because Wario Ware is full of minigames doesn't make it a bad game, but I respect your opinion. And as for Madden, it did score higher than the "superior" versions, even without online play.

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#14 redneckdouglas
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and third party support is only getting better.

jedigemini

With unpopular low-end games. Right.

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#15 jedigemini
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That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

dracula_16

The fact that it is currently breaking sales records with (in your words) only 2 worthwhile games does not bode well for the competition...

what happens when the big games arrive? ;)

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#16 D00nut
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

jedigemini

The fact that it is currently breaking sales records with (in your words) only 2 worthwhile games does not bode well for the competition...

what happens when the big games arrive? ;)

Well for one these "big" games will be overshadowed by Wii Fit and Wii Sports. :P
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#17 dracula_16
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

jedigemini

The fact that it is currently breaking sales records with (in your words) only 2 worthwhile games does not bode well for the competition...

what happens when the big games arrive? ;)

What happens when they arrive? I don't know- it's not like the Wii is the only console with big name titles coming out this fall.

Gta 4 and Halo 3 are guarenteed to sell well.

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#18 Steelspike
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

dracula_16

The fact that it is currently breaking sales records with (in your words) only 2 worthwhile games does not bode well for the competition...

what happens when the big games arrive? ;)

What happens when they arrive? I don't know- it's not like the Wii is the only console with big name titles coming out this fall.

Gta 4 and Halo 3 are guarenteed to sell well.

.

Seriously all the Wii has that are "big games" comming out holiday are just new versions of their old franchises, and bad 3rd party support.

The 360 and PS3 have great 1st party and 3rd party support

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#20 Private_Vegas
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That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

dracula_16

Tell me about it. I really jumped the gun when I bought one. It's spent almost a month collecting dust, then I rented and solved RE4 in a few days, now it's idle again. Bring on the games for the love of God.

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#21 nocode81
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

Metroid. In other word, the same old crap, now with a broken control scheme.

tranhgiang

"Nintendo fans, rejoice. Metroid Prime 3 is going to be the best Metroid Prime game yet. It's been burdened with the enormous task of fulfilling Nintendo's promise of providing unsurpassed FPS controls through the Wii Remote and Nunchuck. Surprisingly, Metroid Prime 3 has more than delivered in this near-final E3 build. Not only do the controls work exactly as we'd like them to, Retro Studios has surprised us by fleshing out the Metroid experience with its most ambitious story yet."

http://ww.joystiq.com/2007/07/16/joystiq-impressions-metroid-prime-3-wii/

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#22 UpgradeYourFace
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Really? My sledgehammer says otherwise
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#23 hongkingkong
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theres pleanty where i am, want one?
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#24 norfair_dweller
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The future lineup really can't compare to the PS3 or 360. If sales are all you can talk about...
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#25 Dencore
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Jedigemni why the hell do you keep making these biased threads?

Seriously you have 3 of your "Anti-Wii Doubt" threads in the first damn page of this board. I think people have either gotten the point already or like most just generally don't give a damn.

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#26 zsc4
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That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

dracula_16
Thanks for your opinion, for me the Wii doesn't appeal to me even an inch.
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#27 mmnin
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he's right.

You people calling him a sheep are simply stupid and hypocritical. It's finally Nintendo's time to shine again and you all are calling them sheep. As if it was any better when PS2 ruled. Wii is set to sell MORE than PS2, not be the next PS2. It is carving its own path.

Chart

If anything PS3 might be set to be the next PS2, but Wii is in a league all its own and you guys don't want to see it.

If you all were Nintendo fans you would happy right now, sucks that you aren't and don't care about more interactive experiences and are happy just sitting on a couch developing callouses from all the unnatural button mashing that you insist on still doing, but whatever makes you feel better about your existance I guess.

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#28 ramen613
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

Steelspike

The fact that it is currently breaking sales records with (in your words) only 2 worthwhile games does not bode well for the competition...

what happens when the big games arrive? ;)

What happens when they arrive? I don't know- it's not like the Wii is the only console with big name titles coming out this fall.

Gta 4 and Halo 3 are guarenteed to sell well.

.

Seriously all the Wii has that are "big games" comming out holiday are just new versions of their old franchises, and bad 3rd party support.

The 360 and PS3 have great 1st party and 3rd party support

wait a minute what great 1 party?
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Yay! Who needs MGS4 and Halo3 when we got Wii Fit Wii Sports?! These sales are killing the hardcore industry!People are buying into a gimmick. sad but true.
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#30 mmnin
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Jedigemni why the hell do you keep making these biased threads?

Seriously you have 3 of your "Anti-Wii Doubt" threads in the first damn page of this board. I think people have either gotten the point already or like most just generally don't give a damn.

Dencore

Probably because this board is called "system wars" and last I checked the only thing you guys argue is 360 vs PS3. Wii is where the market is headed according to sales. It is only a matter of time. Wake up and smell the trends. This is a huge shift in the industry and its right under your nose. Do you really want to be the ones who were blind and stupid during all of this? I think Wii needs some representation on this board, because it IS a system and it IS kicking the other systems butts. Why wouldn't it have some threads like this? It makes more since then the stupid PS3 and 360 threads you guys make! dang you people are hypocrits.

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#31 mmnin
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Yay! Who needs MGS4 and Halo3 when we got Wii Fit Wii Sports?! These sales are killing the hardcore industry!People are buying into a gimmick. sad but true.azad_champ

MGS 4 and Halo 3 have their place. But apparently so do games like Wiisports Wiiplay and Wii Fit or they wouldn't sell in the millions and having a "gimmick" rocket console sales to twice Xbox sales and 4 to 8 times PS3 sales on a weekly basis. They are leading the way in innovative gameplay while Halo 3, Uncharted, and MGS 4 are leading the way in more realistic visuals. We need them both but in order for more realistic control schemes to be successful, Wii NEEDS to succeed. You should all be thankful that mainstream likes it! Now when next Gen rolls around we will have both even MORE interactive controls AND MORE impressive visuals TOGETHER! and this will be the next step for total immersion in a game. Isn't that what many of you would like to have???? GEEZ!

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#32 BuryMe
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It's bound to slow down eventually.

But I'm very surprised it hasn't yet

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It's been sold out since it's release,

it's the fastest selling console of all time,

it's flood of big games havent even been released yet,

it will always be cheaper than the competition,

the media adores it,

it reaches a huge sales demographic,

and third party support is only getting better.

jedigemini

it's a console for minigames and gimmick games. such as guitar hero sold many ps2's.

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#34 BuryMe
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That's great and all but you forgot to mention this:

There are only 2 worthwhile games.

dracula_16
Twilight princess, RE4, super paper mario, trauma centre, Super monkey Ball, warioware all scores 8.0 and up...
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"]

It's been sold out since it's release,

it's the fastest selling console of all time,

it's flood of big games havent even been released yet,

it will always be cheaper than the competition,

the media adores it,

it reaches a huge sales demographic,

and third party support is only getting better.

mistervengeance

it's a console for minigames and gimmick games. such as guitar hero sold many ps2's.

Horrible, horrible thing for a game to do.

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#36 aaron6581230
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he's right.

You people calling him a sheep are simply stupid and hypocritical. It's finally Nintendo's time to shine again and you all are calling them sheep. As if it was any better when PS2 ruled. Wii is set to sell MORE than PS2, not be the next PS2. It is carving its own path.

Chart

If anything PS3 might be set to be the next PS2, but Wii is in a league all its own and you guys don't want to see it.

If you all were Nintendo fans you would happy right now, sucks that you aren't and don't care about more interactive experiences and are happy just sitting on a couch developing callouses from all the unnatural button mashing that you insist on still doing, but whatever makes you feel better about your existance I guess.

mmnin

interactive experiences? Button mashing? What about games? Where are the games? All I see for killer apps are the games that have been used for so many years now. All the other wii games may be good, but Nintendo will always go back to stuff like Zelda, Metroid, and Mario. Right now, devs won't put many "great titles" on the wii because all those charts are measuring hardware sales, not software sales, With so many "non-gamers" buying the system, how many games do you think they buy in the year. Software sales are what devs use to make money. There's a reason why the ps2 won last gen, because of the games. The price might have added onto that, but it was all about the games

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#37 m_machine024
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The title is wrong but he listed mostly facts through.

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The Wii won't be the next PS2, because it won't have the exlcusive third party support the PS2 had over its competition.KirbyFan10101
would there have been as many exclusives if the ps2 didn't have most of the marketshare?
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#39 mmnin
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It's bound to slow down eventually.

But I'm very surprised it hasn't yet

BuryMe

See??? Look at this post! Why can't we have more posts like this! It isn't destructive, it can stir positive conversation and it isn't blind, ignorant, and in denial yet he still expresses his opinion and feelings about it. Now granted he does present a statement factually that cannot be proven and seems unlikely according to sales data and current momentum and trends, but still he at least sees that something is going on! That's at least a start!
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#40 Ontain
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My Wii is collecting dust right now... I havn't played it for a while now and Zelda was not as good as I hoped it would have been. Compared to the other consoles, it doesn't get the 3rd party support that it should due to the lack of "next gen hardware" incorporated into its design.

Steelspike

you think hardware is the reason for less 3rd party support? :roll:

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#41 AsadMahdi59
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hopefully this will turn in to good 3rd party support.
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#42 Shinno441
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Seriously Jedi, you gotta stop with these threads. You're a known fanboy on these forums. You've even got Wii supporters telling you to stop. Stop giving us a bad name.
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#43 yoshi-lnex
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No one can stop mr. domino.
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#44 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

Jedigemni why the hell do you keep making these biased threads?

Seriously you have 3 of your "Anti-Wii Doubt" threads in the first damn page of this board. I think people have either gotten the point already or like most just generally don't give a damn.

mmnin

Probably because this board is called "system wars" and last I checked the only thing you guys argue is 360 vs PS3. Wii is where the market is headed according to sales. It is only a matter of time. Wake up and smell the trends. This is a huge shift in the industry and its right under your nose. Do you really want to be the ones who were blind and stupid during all of this? I think Wii needs some representation on this board, because it IS a system and it IS kicking the other systems butts. Why wouldn't it have some threads like this? It makes more since then the stupid PS3 and 360 threads you guys make! dang you people are hypocrits.

I don't know whether to cry while reading that post or laugh my butt off.

First of all I own a Wii as a secondary *DS as a primary*, and have a STRONG dislike for both the PS3 and 360, but not by brand *I own a PS2 and PSP* but what they stand for. I never said that the Wii isn't going to suceed or win the market, nor did I say there isn't a huge shift amongst the industry as of every week it seems that the Wii has moved a step up in third party seriousness.

We went to down right broken unfinished last gen ports like Far Cry.

Then to last gen downgraded ports like Prince of Persia

Then to improved ports of good last gen games like Godfather

Then to advanced ports such as Rygar

Then we got some bad spin-offs such as Soul Caliber Legends

Then to decent spin-offs like Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles

Then to good spin-offs like Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles

Then we got good grownd up sequels to cult gamers like Trauma Center: New Blood

Then to good ground up games for the stream gamers like Nitrobike

Now just today we got a good ground up game for the gamers Tales of Symphonia 2.

*Note this is due to games shown and previes some may have been announced before others*

The Wii support is improving and has come a LONG way speaking as someone who has been carefully watching it all this time. And due to sales of it it will only go forward.

I'm not complaining about the Wii's success, but the fact that he trys to claim ownage in every single thread he makes which is a constant annoyance.

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#45 mmnin
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[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]The Wii won't be the next PS2, because it won't have the exlcusive third party support the PS2 had over its competition.Ontain
would there have been as many exclusives if the ps2 didn't have most of the marketshare?

Another intelligent take. Ok, I'm done ranting, but for freakin sakes people, stop being stupid.

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#46 gameofthering
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It's been sold out since it's release, no

it's the fastest selling console of all time, yes

it's flood of big games havent even been released yet, yes

it will always be cheaper than the competition, yes

the media adores it, yes

it reaches a huge sales demographic, yes

and third party support is only getting better. yes

jedigemini
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#47 mmnin
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[QUOTE="mmnin"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

Jedigemni why the hell do you keep making these biased threads?

Seriously you have 3 of your "Anti-Wii Doubt" threads in the first damn page of this board. I think people have either gotten the point already or like most just generally don't give a damn.

Dencore

Probably because this board is called "system wars" and last I checked the only thing you guys argue is 360 vs PS3. Wii is where the market is headed according to sales. It is only a matter of time. Wake up and smell the trends. This is a huge shift in the industry and its right under your nose. Do you really want to be the ones who were blind and stupid during all of this? I think Wii needs some representation on this board, because it IS a system and it IS kicking the other systems butts. Why wouldn't it have some threads like this? It makes more since then the stupid PS3 and 360 threads you guys make! dang you people are hypocrits.

I don't know whether to cry while reading that post or laugh my butt off.

First of all I own a Wii as a secondary *DS as a primary*, and have a STRONG dislike for both the PS3 and 360, but not by brand *I own a PS2 and PSP* but what they stand for. I never said that the Wii isn't going to suceed or win the market, nor did I say there isn't a huge shift amongst the industry as of every week it seems that the Wii has moved a step up in third party seriousness.

We went to down right broken games like Far Cry.

Then to last gen downgraded ports like Prince of Persia

Then to improved ports of good last gen games like Godfather

Then we got decent to good spin-offs like Dragon Quest Swords and Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles

Then we got good grownd up sequels to cult ports like Trauma Center: New Blood

Then we got good ground up games for the stream gamers like Nitrobike

Now just today we got a good ground up game for the gamers Tales of Symphonia 2.

The we support is improving and has come a LONG way speaking as someone who has been carefully watching it all this time. And due to sales of it it will only go forward.

I'm not complaining about the Wii's success, but the fact that he trys to claim ownage in every single thread he makes which is a constant annoyance.

Well he may be a little ridiculous by consistantly doing this, but I do think Wii needs to be brought up more than it has been. As for those games, they can be worrisome but you have to keep in mind that Wii has ONLY been out for less than a year, developers thought Nintendo was out of the game and ignored the Wii and now they have to throw stuff together to make games for it. In this situation it would outlandish to think anything released in the first year that wasn't Nintendo would be any good UNLESS it was a port of a successful game. (from last gen given Wii's current graphic levels)

Wii's game mixture will change next year though, you can count on it. Thankfully consumers don't seem to care about the crappy games right now and the interest is going to keep going, regardless of the crap games, till we DO get good games. THAT shows just how much potential Wii has and where it can go in the future, which consequently is a point made by the TC though in short form. Sales are going to go UP not down once better games come out. Wii Fit is just going to ensure that sales keep going until developers fully wisen up to the current situation. In short, I'm going to say what Sony fans are saying right now, "just wait."

*to post below: Yes you are right. i did. Sorry for that. I was in my "defense mode" I think as I was expecting lots of backlash seeing what this board has consisted of. I might need calm down a bit. i don't usually post like this until I get passionate. :oops:

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#48 Dencore
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^^^^I think you totally misunderstood my post. I said the Wii's third party support IS improving due to sales.

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#49 E_x_i_l_e
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Even if Wii wins this generation I won't accept it as the real winner, because it's appealing to non-gamers and casuals. I'm hardcore, and PS3 and 360 are doing it for me.
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#50 jedigemini
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

Jedigemni why the hell do you keep making these biased threads?

Seriously you have 3 of your "Anti-Wii Doubt" threads in the first damn page of this board. I think people have either gotten the point already or like most just generally don't give a damn.

mmnin

Probably because this board is called "system wars" and last I checked the only thing you guys argue is 360 vs PS3. Wii is where the market is headed according to sales. It is only a matter of time. Wake up and smell the trends. This is a huge shift in the industry and its right under your nose. Do you really want to be the ones who were blind and stupid during all of this? I think Wii needs some representation on this board, because it IS a system and it IS kicking the other systems butts. Why wouldn't it have some threads like this? It makes more since then the stupid PS3 and 360 threads you guys make! dang you people are hypocrits.

ouch... and so the terrible truth comes out (terrible for Cows and Lemmings anyway)

great post I agree 100 percent.