Reality check for the lemmings

There's simply too much ignorance in this thread. I can't even think of a response.project343

I agree with 2 of them, you almost made a valid thread!tmatte

Just want to point out that 360 is not doing so good in UK. Wii and PS3 is out selling the 360.shungokustasu

Xbox 360 now has this kind of market share just because of the head start. if it was released in direct competition with Wii and PS 3, i would imagine it will only sale like 3 million or so.

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP Still my favouite console of this gen so far , but i thought it needed to be saidNorthlandMan

thats sad i was hoping to actually see something besides another off the wall opinion

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP Still my favouite console of this gen so far , but i thought it needed to be saidNorthlandMan

my xbox 360 is old and works perfectly

live has a good chance against home

respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK
Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP NorthlandMan

The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to HomeNorthlandMan

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Homezsc4

do you know that you can buy a BMW just paying $250 a month?

[QUOTE="zsc4"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to HomeGame13a13y

do you know that you can buy a BMW just paying $250 a month?

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

[QUOTE="zsc4"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Homekodex1717

do you know that you can buy a BMW just paying $250 a month?

that means, just becuase you are paying this small amount in a month, it doesn't mean that thing cost less. it adds up, you know.

[QUOTE="kodex1717"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

[QUOTE="zsc4"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to HomeGame13a13y

do you know that you can buy a BMW just paying $250 a month?

that means, just becuase you are paying this small amount in a month, it doesn't mean that thing cost less. it adds up, you know.

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"][QUOTE="kodex1717"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

[QUOTE="zsc4"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Homedarklord888

do you know that you can buy a BMW just paying $250 a month?

that means, just becuase you are paying this small amount in a month, it doesn't mean that thing cost less. it adds up, you know.

ok.. how about this comparison, you can buy a laptop just paying $20 a month.

I have had my PS2 since 2001, enough saidStrongman98

Looks like crap compared to home?  There's one exclusive feature, and that's the movie sharing.  Hardly something to buy a PS3 over.kodex1717

Well at least the 360 is beating a last gen handheld. Maybe one day the PS3 will over come that, maybe one day.Chaos_HL21

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP Still my favouite console of this gen so far , but i thought it needed to be saidNorthlandMan

1. I agree...which goes to show you that unreliable systems can occur for any brand.  Although MS seems to have corrected the problem, and did fix all the older ones for free, so how long are we going to drag this point on?  Personally, I owned 3 ps2's, so it doesn't make sense to go through that s**t and than blame MS for it this gen like it's never happened to Sony before.

2. Find me a a more popular console online service and I'll agree that live is overpriced.  I don't understand...Sony's entire movement this gen is that you have to pay for quality...which is obvious with a $600 price tag.  It is hypocritical to say that you will pay $600 if you are getting the best system out there, but wouldn't pay $50 for the best online service out there.  Motorstorm was ruined for me because of it's lacking line features, and many PS3 games don't even support online.  I believe it's a MS rule that every game produced must have at least SOMETHING online, so part of the $50 ensures that you will get support from every game played.  Well worth it.

3. I'm not going to bash MS for it's attempts to appeal to casual gamers.  Let's face it, if you play video games once or twice a month than you don't need a 20gb harddrive and online service.   It's a good strategy on Microsoft's part and the core was released well before the Wii's price was announced...so I don't understand how they copied it.  Second of all, why is it that before the elite, ps3 fanboys bashed MS for not releasing a more HD-ready system...and now that they have you bash them for releasing it?  If ps3 fanboys are just going to sit around and bash MS no matter what they do, than I think everyone's time is just being wasted.

4. about 10 million in it's first year is solid.  Plus, over 120 million people owned a ps2 last gen, which was an enormous success.  it is not unreabonable to believe that people would hold off on an unproven 360 until Sony releases it's ps3.  MS did there job.  There job was to release a console that could compete in graphics and gameplay, as well as being offered at a reasonable price.  They also had several AAA-games in there first year.  If people aren't going to buy the 360 because it's not made by Sony...than t hat's not Microsoft's fault.

Much of the functionality of Live (unified friends lists etc), second life style interface allowing users to interact with avatars, Free, arcade games, exclusive content, regular (too regular) firmware upgrades, ability to set up your own personalised space with uploaded content (like movies, gifs, music etc) NorthlandMan

[QUOTE="Ganon_919"] The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home - No... I won't give you that NorthlandMan

That's your opinion!

The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively - No way... Ganon_919

 You do realise that not everyone has high speed internet.  Why should they pay for the Premium when they don't need it.  The Elite is there if someone wants to pick it up.  I don't need a 120 gig hard drive,  I live in Canada and cannot download movies or TV shows from Live Marketplace.

Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP - I don't consider the PSP a failure. Ganon_919

Yet the sales of the 360 are still beating the PS3. 

[QUOTE="kodex1717"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

[QUOTE="zsc4"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to HomeGame13a13y

do you know that you can buy a BMW just paying $250 a month?

that means, just becuase you are paying this small amount in a month, it doesn't mean that thing cost less. it adds up, you know.

That's different because the $250 BMW is a loan, and the lower the monthly payment is, the longer you have to pay that monthly fee. The $4 a month is $4 for that particular unit of time. You can't pay more and pay for a shorter length of time, and you can't pay less but pay for a longer period of time because the $4 is specifically for that service for that particular period of time.

 Since it's actually sold in yearly subscriptions (I believe), you're just comparing a $50 service to a $25,000 (approximate, I don't know that actual cash value of a BMW) product. It's pretty irrelevant.

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP Still my favouite console of this gen so far , but i thought it needed to be saidNorthlandMan

If I wanted home, I'd go play the Sims Online. And since the companies need to pay for online gaming for PS3 games, they won't be around forever, such as Metal Gear Online. I can play any Xbox or Xbox 360 games forever until XBL is scrapped, which won't be for awhile, and it is 5$ a month if you choose the monthly subscrition, is hardly anything to fuss over. And with having no info at all on your profile, I'd say this is a troll account.

Well at least the 360 is beating a last gen handheld. Maybe one day the PS3 will over come that, maybe one day.Chaos_HL21

lmao

 

because the $250 BMW is a loan, and the lower the monthly payment is, the longer you have to pay that monthly fee. The $4 a month is $4 for that particular unit of time. You can't pay more and pay for a shorter length of time, and you can't pay less but pay for a longer period of time because the $4 is specifically for that service for that particular period of time.

 Since it's actually sold in yearly subscriptions (I believe), you're just comparing a $50 service to a $25,000 (approximate, I don't know that actual cash value of a BMW) product. It's pretty irrelevant.

mattbbpl

ok, the BMW comparison is too exaggerated. how about the laptop example i posted earlier? $20 a month to get you a laptop, $4 a month to get  you XBL. not much difference now rite? so after 4 years, you'll get a laptop, and with XBL, you got some enjoyment which is offered free elsewhere (PC, Wii, and PS 3).

good for you mate that you got that off your chest..

but now it will be lost in the sea of other threads saying the same things...

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2(Mine still works...even from launch)

 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home(looks like crap?i wasnt aware Sony made the socialstaion3.HOME is a gimmick;smoke and mirrors;a trick.

 The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3(running out of insults much?)

 

 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK(did ps3 not sell only 80k)

 

 Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP Still my favouite console of this gen so far , but i thought it needed to be said(im not even gonna comment)

 

NorthlandMan

[QUOTE="zsc4"] $50 USD a year, thats roughly $4.17 USD a month. Expensive I highly doubt that. :|NorthlandMan

I have had my PS2 since 2001, enough saidStrongman98

Looks like crap compared to home?  There's one exclusive feature, and that's the movie sharing.  Hardly something to buy a PS3 over.kodex1717

yea i rather pay for xbox live then have wii's free online.

it doesnt look that great, so far.

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP Still my favouite console of this gen so far , but i thought it needed to be saidNorthlandMan

Got a few reality checks of my own ;)

1) My launch 360 is working just fine.
2) It's ridiculous to conpare XBL to a service that hasn't even launched
3) The Elite almost sold more in 1 week than the PS3 sold in one month
4) The 360 is still the market leader of the next gen.
5) The 360 is still the market leader of the next gen.

Got plenty more where that came from ;)

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Homezsc4

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK Even in the USA (it's strongest market) it's being outsold by failing handhelds like the PSP Still my favouite console of this gen so far , but i thought it needed to be saidNorthlandMan

less than $5 a month is overexpensive to you?

The US/UK make up over 60% of the market

The Ps3 is also being outsold by failing handhelds AND 6 year old handhelds

The XBox 360 is about as reliable and well built as a launch PS2 The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to Home The core and elite systems are crappy wannabes of the Wii/PS3 respectively no-one is buying the machine outside of the US/UK Even. In the USA (it's strongest market) the PS3 is beingoutsold by a dying handheld like the GBA , but i thought it needed to be saidNorthlandMan

Fixed.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"] 1) My launch 360 is working just fine. NorthlandMan

2) It's ridiculous to conpare XBL to a service that hasn't even launched Yellow_Rose

3) The Elite almost sold more in 1 week than the PS3 sold in one month Yellow_Rose

4) The 360 is still the market leader of the next gen. Yellow_Rose

5) The 360 is still the market leader of the next gen. Yellow_Rose

2. I've yet to see a lot of Live defectors if Sony's or Nintendo's interfaces are truly the next coming.

3. I don't see people waiting in line for a PS3, do you? At least the 360 still sells well, and its flagship title is still months away.

4. Who's got the biggest influence on sales?

5. Two words: Halo 3. You should've heard the stories about the pre-sales. 

[QUOTE="zsc4"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]The online service is overexpensive and looks like crap next to HomeGame13a13y

do you know that you can buy a BMW just paying $250 a month?

Not only do you not have a point by posting this, but no BMW is $250 a month. That would take 20 years to pay in full for the car. Good try though.

just because you can buy random stuff in home doesnt mean you have to.. only a nerd would buy that stuff anywaye20Dylan

Only a nerd would buy that stuff. How does buying stuff on home or where ever make you a nerd. I think you need to stop posting everything that comes out of your cow face is crap.

and that excuses the high failure rate? EGM recently confirmed that 75% of their XBoxes have red ringed. that's indefensibleNorthlandMan

Xbox 360 now has this kind of market share just because of the head start. if it was released in direct competition with Wii and PS 3, i would imagine it will only sale like 3 million or so.

 

Game13a13y

i agree completely.