Reality Check: Launch Performance of Current Consoles

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#1 -Renegade
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Courtesy of VGCharts we have the above graph which shows life time to date consoles sales for the PS3, Wii and Xbox360. The launch dates have been aligned for a clearer comparison. While there is no doubt that the Wii is selling like gang busters I think SONY fans can feel assured that the system that has 'had a rough start' and 'has no games' seems at pretty much the exact pace that its main competition did at launch.

http://www.sonyprotectiongroup.com/?/content/view/56/1/

looks like ps3 is not doing so bad afterall. :wink: can someone post the picture it wont let me.

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#2 NobuoMusicMaker
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Sony Protection Group?  Is that the cool people place when noobs invaded the Sony Defense Force?
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#3 MronoC
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well what do you know

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#4 X360PS3AMD05
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how it will end
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I'm glad to see you cows feel better now. =)
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how it will end *fake chart*X360PS3AMD05

haha, good one :P

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Look, ChartCats! : D!  

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how it will end  X360PS3AMD05

I :lol: 'd in real life! 

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#9 chaos-SD
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how it will end (insert wrong image)X360PS3AMD05

Actually I think this is the image you meant to post:

heh...

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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]how it will end (insert wrong image)chaos-SD

Actually I think this is the image you meant to post:

heh...

Holy Crap, you mean Metal Gear Solid, FF13, and killzone 2 are all released next month?!

:D AWESOME!  

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#11 alecsuba
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well one they quoted VGchartz they automatically lost.

Im a sheep ill admit it proudly. I own no 360 or PS3 but even i will say the 360 numbers are on par with the PS3 simply due to low stock initially while the ps3s stock has floundered on the shelves. and hell the wiis numbers god only knows what theyd be if stock was in stock

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#12 RoslindaleOne
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It looks like the 360 rose significantly since the PS3 launch.
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Look, ChartCats! : D!

mushroomscout89

What? is that Longcat?  Guess this generation has a long way to go.

Longcat is LOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGG! 

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[QUOTE="chaos-SD"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]how it will end (insert wrong image)mushroomscout89

Actually I think this is the image you meant to post:

heh...

Holy Crap, you mean Metal Gear Solid, FF13, and killzone 2 are all released next month?!

:D AWESOME!  

Not only that, but Final fantasy 15, MGS5 and a crap ton of other exclusives that no one even knows about will be released too!:lol:

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Look, ChartCats! : D!

mushroomscout89

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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#16 mushroomscout89
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[QUOTE="mushroomscout89"]

Look, ChartCats! : D!

NobuoMusicMaker

What? is that Longcat? Guess this generation has a long way to go.

Longcat is LOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGG!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNG. 

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Courtesy of VGCharts we have the above graph which shows life time to date consoles sales for the PS3, Wii and Xbox360. The launch dates have been aligned for a clearer comparison. While there is no doubt that the Wii is selling like gang busters I think SONY fans can feel assured that the system that has 'had a rough start' and 'has no games' seems at pretty much the exact pace that its main competition did at launch.

http://www.sonyprotectiongroup.com/?/content/view/56/1/

looks like ps3 is not doing so bad afterall. :wink: can someone post the picture it wont let me.

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Anything from the Sony Protection Group has about as much credibiliaty as a WWII Nazi propaganda flyer.
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#18 cakeorrdeath
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This doesn't entirely paint a full picture.

The 360 was sold out for a considerable period after launch and PS3 sales are still on the decline so this same graph done in a few months time may not look so healthy.

 The other thing to consider is the PS3 isn't supposed to be matching the performance of the 360 from 12 months ago. It is supposed to be walking all over it. Sony certainly won't be happy chasing MS's coat tails for the entire generation.

 

Equally it does show the "PS3 is Doomed"  crowd to be very misguided.

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#19 11Marcel
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The thing I dislike about threads with "reality check" in it, is that it's usually the TC who needs a reality check. All this shows is that the PS3 is not entirely doomed, and that it still has a small fighting chance. It's a small one though. The wii and xbox 360 have both sold far more than the PS3 in total, and PS3 is certainly not catching up in any way. Many titles being delayed till '08 is also not a good thing.
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#20 TDLlama
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Look, ChartCats! : D!  

mushroomscout89

I believe we have our post of the day!  I laughed... out loud... but not on the floor while rolling... and my posterior is still secured to my body.

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#21 tcarruth
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Some points:

1) If ithe ps3 sells exactly the same way the 360 has previously, it will always be behind.

2) It is the relative market share currently which counts  because this determines exclusive releases and pricing (aligning launches is actually pretty daft).

3) Aligning releases does not accound for the 400% more HD tvs that were in households when the PS3 was released.

4) Given that previous sony owners outnumber xbox owners 10:1 the market saturation curves are completely different, the progress of the PS3 is worrying in this regard and actually reflects the reality that many previous sony fans have moved to an xbox or are yet to make up their mind

5) The xbox was supply limited driving a more linear increase in sales - the ps3 is plateauing already despite good supply.

6) The sales of the PS3 are perhaps more impressive since it has been released into a market already dominated by a major competitor.

The point I'm trying to make is that the comparison is entirely confounded by a range of temporal factors and is actually pretty pointless. You are much better off looking at the current market share graphs. Trying to spin this in some kind of a fanboy way is worthless. I'm very sure that next months NPD figures will be highly informative for this generation 'war'.

 

 

 

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#22 MARIOSDAD_basic
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how it will end  X360PS3AMD05

LMAO

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#23 alecsuba
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Just a little all time launch period chart since the NES

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#24 cakeorrdeath
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Just a little all time launch period chart since the NES

 

alecsuba

 

That's US only right? Because the N64 did much better in the US than worldwide. 

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#25 alecsuba
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[QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Just a little all time launch period chart since the NES

 

cakeorrdeath

 

That's US only right? Because the N64 did much better in the US than worldwide.

Yeah North america only. Cant get good enough european figures to do world. and yeah N64 sold around 70% of its lifetime sales in the US.

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#26 Carmilla31
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]how it will end

QFT. And lol at chartcats. That was so funny. :D
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]how it will end (insert wrong image)chaos-SD

Actually I think this is the image you meant to post:

heh...

wow it seems like NO ONE will buy a Wii next month :o
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#28 Michael85
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Sony ain't competing with the 360's launch, they're competing with the 360 now.

I must sound like a broken record having repeated that statement so many times. 

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Just a little all time launch period chart since the NES

alecsuba
HOLY DAMN :oi never knew Wii was doing THIS good :o
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#30 jdang307
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well one they quoted VGchartz they automatically lost.

Im a sheep ill admit it proudly. I own no 360 or PS3 but even i will say the 360 numbers are on par with the PS3 simply due to low stock initially while the ps3s stock has floundered on the shelves. and hell the wiis numbers god only knows what theyd be if stock was in stock

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Won't say anything about wii it's selling like gangbusters ... but remember the 360 had no competition either.  It's the only kid on the block.  And by thist time last year there was no shortage of 360's.  So it balances out somewhat.  The fight is ahead.  Wii is going to outsell everyone we all know that I believe.  $250 vs. 400/600 cannot be beat.  That's why Hondas outsell BMW's and Mercedes, Walmart jeans outsell 7 For All Mankind jeans etc., but this holiday and next several will see 360 and PS3 battle it out.  80 million or so PS2 owners haven't bought their next gen yet.
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#31 omarguy01
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Sony ain't competing with the 360's launch, they're competing with the 360 now.

I must sound like a broken record having repeated that statement so many times. 

Michael85
yep. true
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#32 nobeaner
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Sony ain't competing with the 360's launch, they're competing with the 360 now.

I must sound like a broken record having repeated that statement so many times. 

Michael85
Im sorry, can you say that again?  I missed it the first hundred times.
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#33 freeload
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[QUOTE="alecsuba"]

Just a little all time launch period chart since the NES

nintendo-4life

HOLY DAMN :oi never knew Wii was doing THIS good :o

And that's just for the US. Try and picture how that graph would look in Japan.

Try and picture how that graph looks for all territories combined!

 

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#34 Iyethar
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Wii's curve is almost linear in that second chart.
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#35 cakeorrdeath
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Wii's curve is almost linear in that second chart.Iyethar

 

Justifies Reggies whole speal about not just having to look at Q4 for sales. 

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#36 Private_Vegas
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Whats with that PS3 jack knife manuver between 16 and 21? I wonder what caused that all of a sudden and why it died down so fast.
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#37 cakeorrdeath
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Whats with that PS3 jack knife manuver between 16 and 21? I wonder what caused that all of a sudden and why it died down so fast.Private_Vegas

 

The European Launch 

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Sony Protection Group?   :lol:

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#39 Iyethar
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[QUOTE="Iyethar"]Wii's curve is almost linear in that second chart.cakeorrdeath

 

Justifies Reggies whole speal about not just having to look at Q4 for sales.

Not so much, because we're still talking launch/supply constraints.  But it does show that even after supplying 2+ million consoles to North America, the demand for the console still exceeds the supply.  God only knows how many people are willing to buy it at $250 based on the software and features it offers today, and are just waiting until they spot one at the store.

Fun fact: based on unit sales, at this point in its historical performance GCN was $150.  Current Wii sales at $250 are mind-numbingly huge in comparison.