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#1 nolson
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This is to all the people who put out topics saying "THE PS3 IS 'OFFICIALLY' DEAD". Do you realize that the ps3 has sold more consoles than the 360 did in its first four months?

http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=ps3&name2=x360&type=2&align=0
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#2 swaginator
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This is to all the people who put out topics saying "THE PS3 IS 'OFFICIALLY' DEAD". Do you realize that the ps3 has sold more consoles than the 360 did in its first four months?

http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=ps3&name2=x360&type=2&align=0
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Do you realize that it was this time last year that the major shortages were just starting to end?
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With next generation competition. Unlike the Xbox 360 during it's first year.
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#4 Choga
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And sales matter to gamers because?
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And yet it is still in last place. With the highest price tag and least games.
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#6 nolson
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And yet it is still in last place. With the highest price tag and least games.foxhound_fox
umm...its only been out for 4 months...360's been out for a lot longer. I'm just saying how ridiculous some peoples statements are...like yours.
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So, what was so great about the Xbox 360s games during it's first 4 months? PDZ? :lol: Decent game, comparable to R:FoM, but after that what is there?
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And sales matter to gamers because?Choga

More sales means more likely to be supported, more likely to entend franchises, etc. Sales matter.

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#9 Choga
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And yet it is still in last place. With the highest price tag and least games.nolson
umm...its only been out for 4 months...360's been out for a lot longer. I'm just saying how ridiculous some peoples statements are...like yours.

Of course, his statement is totally ridiculous. PS3 is in last place and it currently has very few good games. I dont see whats so ridiculous about that statement. 

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And sales matter to gamers because?Choga
it assures a future on your platform. devs don't like to spend much time on games for consoles that no one owns.
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#11 Choga
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So, what was so great about the Xbox 360s games during it's first 4 months? PDZ? :lol: Decent game, comparable to R:FoM, but after that what is there?TekkenMaster606

First four months? There was this game....umm....what was it.....OH YEA! Oblivion. There we go. 

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And sales matter to gamers because?Choga

New to system wars, eh?

 

Lemmings, admit ownage from this thread.

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#13 Choga
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[QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?whoisryanmack
it assures a future on your platform. devs don't like to spend much time on games for consoles that no one owns.

That would explain the lack of good games for the PS3. 

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[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?Choga

it assures a future on your platform. devs don't like to spend much time on games for consoles that no one owns.

That would explain the lack of good games for the PS3. 

it does explain the loss of ps3 exclusives very well.
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#15 Choga
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[QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?majadamus

New to system wars, eh?

 

Lemmings, admit ownage from this thread.

Yes, I hail from the OT, where logic is in abundance. 

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[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And yet it is still in last place. With the highest price tag and least games.Choga

umm...its only been out for 4 months...360's been out for a lot longer. I'm just saying how ridiculous some peoples statements are...like yours.

Of course, his statement is totally ridiculous. PS3 is in last place and it currently has very few good games. I dont see whats so ridiculous about that statement.

yeah actually it is totally ridiculous to expect it to catch up that quickly.
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#17 pundog
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This is to all the people who put out topics saying "THE PS3 IS 'OFFICIALLY' DEAD". Do you realize that the ps3 has sold more consoles than the 360 did in its first four months?

http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=ps3&name2=x360&type=2&align=0
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But the 360 was never in stock until this time last year, so its not a fair comparison. In March 07 you could walk into a store and buy a PS3, in March 06 you couldn't do that with a 360.
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#18 Felous1
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umm...its only been out for 4 months...nolson
Same for the Wii.
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#19 Choga
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[QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And yet it is still in last place. With the highest price tag and least games.nolson

umm...its only been out for 4 months...360's been out for a lot longer. I'm just saying how ridiculous some peoples statements are...like yours.

Of course, his statement is totally ridiculous. PS3 is in last place and it currently has very few good games. I dont see whats so ridiculous about that statement.

yeah actually it is totally ridiculous to expect it to catch up that quickly.

When did he say he is expecting it to catch up by now? All he said was that it was in last place, it was the most expensive, and it had very few good games.  

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#20 nolson
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all im saying is the ps3 is far from dead.
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#21 Choga
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all im saying is the ps3 is far from dead.nolson

Well thank you captain obvious. Of course its far from dead, its only about 4 1/2 months old! 

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#22 nolson
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[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And yet it is still in last place. With the highest price tag and least games.Choga

umm...its only been out for 4 months...360's been out for a lot longer. I'm just saying how ridiculous some peoples statements are...like yours.

Of course, his statement is totally ridiculous. PS3 is in last place and it currently has very few good games. I dont see whats so ridiculous about that statement.

yeah actually it is totally ridiculous to expect it to catch up that quickly.

When did he say he is expecting it to catch up by now? All he said was that it was in last place, it was the most expensive, and it had very few good games.

yeah, hes knocking it for being in last place when the 360 came out way beforehand.
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#23 BK-Sleeper
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And sales matter to gamers because?Choga
A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.
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[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And yet it is still in last place. With the highest price tag and least games.nolson

umm...its only been out for 4 months...360's been out for a lot longer. I'm just saying how ridiculous some peoples statements are...like yours.

Of course, his statement is totally ridiculous. PS3 is in last place and it currently has very few good games. I dont see whats so ridiculous about that statement.

yeah actually it is totally ridiculous to expect it to catch up that quickly.

When did he say he is expecting it to catch up by now? All he said was that it was in last place, it was the most expensive, and it had very few good games.

yeah, hes knocking it for being in last place when the 360 came out way beforehand.

The Wii and the PS3 came out in the same month, and the PS3 is last.  

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#25 nolson
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[QUOTE="nolson"]all im saying is the ps3 is far from dead.Choga

Well thank you captain obvious. Of course its far from dead, its only about 4 1/2 months old!

choga no need to be a jerk. did you NOT read what i said in my original post? theres been plenty of people saying the ps3 is dead. maybe you should say that to them.
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[QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?BK-Sleeper
A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

as well as not being oblivious to reality. everyone wants to own the next ps2, because of the games. what got ps2 the games? sales.
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#27 nolson
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[QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?BK-Sleeper
A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.
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#28 Choga
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[QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"]all im saying is the ps3 is far from dead.nolson

Well thank you captain obvious. Of course its far from dead, its only about 4 1/2 months old!

choga no need to be a jerk. did you NOT read what i said in my original post? theres been plenty of people saying the ps3 is dead. maybe you should say that to them.

I think they meant dead software wise? Either way, they are fanboys, and Im sorry for being so harsh. 

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#29 Choga
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[QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?nolson
A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

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#30 nolson
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[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"]all im saying is the ps3 is far from dead.Choga

Well thank you captain obvious. Of course its far from dead, its only about 4 1/2 months old!

choga no need to be a jerk. did you NOT read what i said in my original post? theres been plenty of people saying the ps3 is dead. maybe you should say that to them.

I think they meant dead software wise? Either way, they are fanboys, and Im sorry for being so harsh.

wow someone whos actually not an idiot on system wars. and no, im pretty sure they meant the system itself.
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[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?Choga

A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

Wonder if Sega fans said those same words in the past?

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[QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?whoisryanmack
it assures a future on your platform. devs don't like to spend much time on games for consoles that no one owns.

too true...
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The 360 didn't have a main competitor when it launched, so PS3 selling more when it launched is nothin to celebrate. Both Wii and 360 are outselling the PS3 anyway.
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[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?Choga

A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

Because of a powerful yet shoddily constructed console that only appeals to a certain niche? not to mention that said console would be doing all it could to rip off what another more successful company had already done.
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[QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?whoisryanmack

A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

Because of a powerful yet shoddily constructed console that only appeals to a certain niche? not to mention that said console would be doing all it could to rip off what another more successful company had already done.


Its all buisiness tactics my friend. And even if the said console were to emerge the victor, you can be damn sure it would have some really good titles under its belt. What im trying to say is that no matter what, the gamers will win.
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[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?Choga

A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

you dont make any sense.

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#37 Choga
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[QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?InfamousC

A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

you dont make any sense.

Care to elaborate on how I make no sense? 

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[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?Choga

A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

Because of a powerful yet shoddily constructed console that only appeals to a certain niche? not to mention that said console would be doing all it could to rip off what another more successful company had already done.


Its all buisiness tactics my friend. And even if the said console were to emerge the victor, you can be damn sure it would have some really good titles under its belt. What im trying to say is that no matter what, the gamers will win.

well i was only relating lambo's business philosophy from cars to consoles. in doing so, i see that the result is actually the 360. strange.
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Eidos just called,

They said, "10,000,000 > 2,000,000" 

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#40 Choga
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[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="nolson"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Choga"]And sales matter to gamers because?whoisryanmack

A gamer that concerns themself with marketing and sales is not a gamer.

actually if a system doesnt sell, it fails. you know what that means. you dont get any games. soo sales do matter to gamers. IF sales didnt matter to gamers and people who cared about them werent gamers...well we've got a WHOLE lot of non gamers in system wars.

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

Because of a powerful yet shoddily constructed console that only appeals to a certain niche? not to mention that said console would be doing all it could to rip off what another more successful company had already done.


Its all buisiness tactics my friend. And even if the said console were to emerge the victor, you can be damn sure it would have some really good titles under its belt. What im trying to say is that no matter what, the gamers will win.

well i was only relating lambo's business philosophy from cars to consoles. in doing so, i see that the result is actually the 360. strange.

I dont see how the reseult could be the 360. Im thinking that if lambo made a console it would be a mix between the PS3 and a nasa computer. It would have 0 games. 

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I like how someone'll say they need to "point something out", as if it's some vast revelation that only that specific person is aware of, and then I come into the thread and see the same topics that get posted a dozen times a day. When am I ever going to learn? *sigh*
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[QUOTE="Michael85"]I like how someone'll say they need to "point something out", as if it's some vast revelation that only that specific person is aware of, and then I come into the thread and see the same topics that get posted a dozen times a day. When am I ever going to learn? *sigh*

probably around the time the posts stop.
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[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Choga"]

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

Choga

you dont make any sense.

Care to elaborate on how I make no sense? 

who cares if a system fails? must we be reminded of gamecube last generation with its last place finish? the system with the least amount of sales will get the least amount of games. I think alot of people will care. no matter how you spin it nintendo failed with gamecube and the games released on it showed that.

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#44 Choga
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[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Choga"]

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

InfamousC

you dont make any sense.

Care to elaborate on how I make no sense?

who cares if a system fails? must we be reminded of gamecube last generation with its last place finish? the system with the least amount of sales will get the least amount of games. I think alot of people will care. no matter how you spin it nintendo failed with gamecube and the games released on it showed that.

I dont think you understand my original statement. I mean that even if a system fails, good games will still be available on other systems too play. Therefore, only the gamer can win the in the end.  

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#45 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="nolson"]This is to all the people who put out topics saying "THE PS3 IS 'OFFICIALLY' DEAD". Do you realize that the ps3 has sold more consoles than the 360 did in its first four months?

http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=ps3&name2=x360&type=2&align=0
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Do you realize that it was this time last year that the major shortages were just starting to end?

do you realize that a system that's been around for a year and half, with no competition for 1 year, and exclusive AAAs since launch sold around 9.8 million worldwide to this day? (this is the 360)

but the competition, with lack of exclusive AAAs and only 5 months in the market already sold 3 million units (PS3) and 6.4 millions (Wii)?

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#46 Choga
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="nolson"]This is to all the people who put out topics saying "THE PS3 IS 'OFFICIALLY' DEAD". Do you realize that the ps3 has sold more consoles than the 360 did in its first four months?

http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=ps3&name2=x360&type=2&align=0
SambaLele

Do you realize that it was this time last year that the major shortages were just starting to end?

do you realize that a system that's been around for a year and half, with no competition for 1 year, and exclusive AAAs since launch sold around 9.8 million worldwide to this day? (this is the 360)

but the competition, with lack of exclusive AAAs and only 5 months in the market already sold 3 million units (PS3) and 6.4 millions (Wii)?

I blame this on consumer ignorance. 

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#47 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="nolson"]This is to all the people who put out topics saying "THE PS3 IS 'OFFICIALLY' DEAD". Do you realize that the ps3 has sold more consoles than the 360 did in its first four months?

http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=ps3&name2=x360&type=2&align=0
SambaLele

Do you realize that it was this time last year that the major shortages were just starting to end?

do you realize that a system that's been around for a year and half, with no competition for 1 year, and exclusive AAAs since launch sold around 9.8 million worldwide to this day? (this is the 360)

but the competition, with lack of exclusive AAAs and only 5 months in the market already sold 3 million units (PS3) and 6.4 millions (Wii)?

 And once again your logic fails because its based on the presumption that the PS3 will continue to sell.

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By around 43,000 :| You make it sound like it's demolishing it...
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#49 InfamousC
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[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Choga"]

Right but who cares if a system fails? Frankly, there are always going to be killer games out there. And to sudgest that a system made by the likes of Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo will fail is something I cannot grasp. Now if Lamborghini were to make a console, then MS, SONY, and Nintendo should be shaking in their boots.

Choga

you dont make any sense.

Care to elaborate on how I make no sense?

who cares if a system fails? must we be reminded of gamecube last generation with its last place finish? the system with the least amount of sales will get the least amount of games. I think alot of people will care. no matter how you spin it nintendo failed with gamecube and the games released on it showed that.

I dont think you understand my original statement. I mean that even if a system fails, good games will still be available on other systems too play. Therefore, only the gamer can win the in the end.  

not if you only own one system.

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#50 InfamousC
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"]

do you realize that a system that's been around for a year and half, with no competition for 1 year, and exclusive AAAs since launch sold around 9.8 million worldwide to this day? (this is the 360)

but the competition, with lack of exclusive AAAs and only 5 months in the market already sold 3 million units (PS3) and 6.4 millions (Wii)?

DXGreat1_HGL

 And once again your logic fails because its based on the presumption that the PS3 will continue to sell.

 

and yours fails because you think it wont.