Reason Microsoft and Nintendo are smarter than Sony

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#1 cee1gee
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Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

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#2 Led_poison
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Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen cee1gee

and you base this assumption on what exactly?

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#3 Squall18
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Saying Sony wasn't samrt from their launch until the beginning of this year, I would agree w/ you.

However, this year, Sony is smart, if not the smartest of all the companies. They are doing just about everything right.

And how is Nintendo smarter than Sony this year if their sails have dropped, and still have no amazing hardcore games.

MS is pretty good this year, but all in all I'll hand it to Sony

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#4 LP4EVA2005
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Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

cee1gee

well i hope your right about that cuz im nor readt to make the next gen switch anytime soon..

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#5 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen Led_poison

and you base this assumption on what exactly?

on how much they worked on their system this gen, and how little microsoft and nintendo worked on their system, and they are both at the top,so imagine when they actually update
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Well, I guesss, but then again, Sony won the Blu-Ray war, which was important to them.
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#7 GaMeR_Willz
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Think again... Xbox 360 and Wii are not future proof.

The next Xbox will have same graphics as PS3 anyway...

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#8 cee1gee
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Saying Sony wasn't samrt from their launch until the beginning of this year, I would agree w/ you.

However, this year, Sony is smart, if not the smartest of all the companies. They are doing just about everything right.

And how is Nintendo smarter than Sony this year if their sails have dropped, and still have no amazing hardcore games.

MS is pretty good this year, but all in all I'll hand it to Sony

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Nintendo knows what its doing, its not on top for no reason, once you think the fans will leave nintendo then BOOM, theyll throw out something crazy that the other systems wont have
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#9 cee1gee
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Think again... Xbox 360 and Wii are not future proof.

The next Xbox will have same graphics as PS3 anyway...

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It will have better graphics, i heard they are working on something better than bluray
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Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

cee1gee

So you think they would let MS and Nintendo have a 3+ year headstart? Why?

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#11 CakeBalls
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen Led_poison

and you base this assumption on what exactly?

it's true. My dad's, friend's, grandfather's, neighbour's, dog told me so.
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#12 chelseafc223
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Well on an HD tv Xbox graphics are almost identical to the PS3 so they failed with the blu-ray :p
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#13 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

Floppy_Jim
So you think they would let MS and Ninteno have a 3+ year headstart? Why?

its the only way they can actually stand a chance, ps3 owners dont want a new system yet, while microsoft and nintendo sort of need to make a new system, and if sony tries to come out with something out of this world, theyll charge 1000 dollars for the system and remain behind again
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#14 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

Floppy_Jim
So you think they would let MS and Ninteno have a 3+ year headstart? Why?

that steve ballmer pic scares me O_O
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#15 Led_poison
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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen cee1gee

and you base this assumption on what exactly?

on how much they worked on their system this gen, and how little microsoft and nintendo worked on their system, and they are both at the top,so imagine when they actually update

You can tell mircosoft's worked very little on their system :lol: , If you havent noticed this generation is moving along very slowly, I dont see MS, Nintendo updating anytime in the next 2-3 years. PS2 did so well because it was not a powerhouse console but it lasted longer then the Xbox and gamecube, and the product cycle of the Ps3 has still a LONG way to go.
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#16 cee1gee
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Well on an HD tv Xbox graphics are almost identical to the PS3 so they failed with the blu-ray :pchelseafc223
only the multiplats look similiar, or better on 360, but exclusives lean SLIGHTLY better than 360...but i guess u can say its sort of fail
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#17 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

cee1gee

So you think they would let MS and Ninteno have a 3+ year headstart? Why?

its the only way they can actually stand a chance, ps3 owners dont want a new system yet, while microsoft and nintendo sort of need to make a new system, and if sony tries to come out with something out of this world, theyll charge 1000 dollars for the system and remain behind again

You think they would stand a chance by launching years later? Sony could easily re-use the PS3's technology in the next console and launch it around the same price/time as the other two.

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[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

LP4EVA2005

well i hope your right about that cuz im nor readt to make the next gen switch anytime soon..

Agreed. Although it wasn't paying off at first, I think now the work Sony has put in is paying off as PS3 sales are pretty high.
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#19 chelseafc223
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[QUOTE="chelseafc223"]Well on an HD tv Xbox graphics are almost identical to the PS3 so they failed with the blu-ray :pcee1gee
only the multiplats look similiar, or better on 360, but exclusives lean SLIGHTLY better than 360...but i guess u can say its sort of fail

Well obviously the PS3 WILL have better graphics because the blu-ray dvds hold almost 40gb more than the dvds they use for the xbox but with the xbox being almost as good just makes sony fail
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I dont think we'll be seeing any new consoles anytime soon... unless it's from Nintendo, basically because they're still using last gen hardware.
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#21 ChiSoxBombers
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

So you think they would let MS and Ninteno have a 3+ year headstart? Why?

its the only way they can actually stand a chance, ps3 owners dont want a new system yet, while microsoft and nintendo sort of need to make a new system, and if sony tries to come out with something out of this world, theyll charge 1000 dollars for the system and remain behind again

Are you the spokesperson for Sony? And the financial advisor for Sony?
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#22 chelseafc223
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Well the new Xbox and playstation will not be released for a while but Microsoft is bringing out Natal which they think is like a new console andthey hope will take over the wii market
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#23 fabz_95
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I dont think we'll be seeing any new consoles anytime soon... unless it's from Nintendo, basically because they're still using last gen hardware.carljohnson3456
I sure hope not, this gen has been an expensive one and I hope to buy another console. Off-Topic: Haven't seen you post on SW in a while carl, nice to see you again.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

cee1gee

So you think they would let MS and Ninteno have a 3+ year headstart? Why?

its the only way they can actually stand a chance, ps3 owners dont want a new system yet, while microsoft and nintendo sort of need to make a new system, and if sony tries to come out with something out of this world, theyll charge 1000 dollars for the system and remain behind again

Nah. I doubt any of the 3 companies launches with even half your predicted "1000 dollars" launch point. Reason? No need. As fits with the general theme of this thread, Sony has already done most of its work for next console cycyle already. They're already putting out consoles with BluRay, HDD in every console, integrated WiFi and BlueTooth, and free online... all (IMHO) required assets for the new generation of consoles. They've also still got the Cell Processor's development completed, and it's likely that the next Sony console will be Cell based as well, to defray costs.

So what will the additional costs be for Sony's new console be? They'll want a faster BluRay Drive, which by the time the new consoles start rolling out shouldn't cost more than the current model in the PS3 now. They'll want more RAM, though with the rapidly declining prices for RAM, that also will be mitigated by time. What's left? An array of Cells as the CPU (2-4 sounds about right to me), and a new GPU.

This gen was a huge jump for Sony and MS to make tech wise. Next gen will be about getting more assets on the screen at a time, Increasing the sizes of these worlds, and doing it all in 1080p with 60 fps as the floor for framerates.... it will be more about perfecting the HD cansole experience than reinventing or revolutionizing it.

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#25 PAL360
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Think again... Xbox 360 and Wii are not future proof.

The next Xbox will have same graphics as PS3 anyway...

GaMeR_Willz

Are you serious man? :| 360 has the same graphics as PS3

Next gen consoles will at least suport directx 11

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[QUOTE="fabz_95"] Off-Topic: Haven't seen you post on SW in a while carl, nice to see you again.

Thanks man. :)
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#27 bballm10
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Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

cee1gee

To be honest, I wouldn't want Sony coming out with a new system that soon anyway. New gaming systems tend to be quite expensive and there's nothing wrong with my PS3 as it is.

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#28 ActicEdge
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I don't agree with your reasoning. Sony is not smart because they've lost almost 5 billion dollars on one system. Nintendo and Microsoft are smart because they are making money. That's really all there is to it.

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#29 LookAnDrolL
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] So you think they would let MS and Ninteno have a 3+ year headstart? Why?Floppy_Jim

its the only way they can actually stand a chance, ps3 owners dont want a new system yet, while microsoft and nintendo sort of need to make a new system, and if sony tries to come out with something out of this world, theyll charge 1000 dollars for the system and remain behind again

You think they would stand a chance by launching years later? Sony could easily re-use the PS3's technology in the next console and launch it around the same price/time as the other two.

Exactly, sony invested in the cell platform for a reason, i'll doubt they'll change the cpu structure next gen, all this investement i'm sure its going to pay off for them in the long run
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#30 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]

Think again... Xbox 360 and Wii are not future proof.

The next Xbox will have same graphics as PS3 anyway...

PAL360

Are you serious man? :| 360 has the same graphics as PS3

Next gen consoles will at least suport directx 11

DirectX brainwash detected!

It's only a lib and it will be only on MS stuff ;) This not mean that opponent will be weaker.

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Sony has really nothing to look foward to next gen, they basically put all their work into this gen, and that work hasnt even paid off, Nintendo and Microsoft built simple systems that work good, and have alot of new features they can add next gen...i think that Sony is not going to come out with a new Playstation anytime soon, while Microsoft and Nintendo will release a new console in the next 3 years, while PS3 will probably stick around 6 years

expect great systems from Nintendo and Microsoft within the next few years

cee1gee

I find it hard to believe that you really believe what you wrote. What would you have them do get a good idea then not apply it wait for the compition to do it come on man think. And "Microsoft built simple system that work good" was you around at launch time or hear of RROD. Wow might want to re-think some of your statements. I own a 360 and it's great but what your saying is crazy Next Gen will be another leap forward in tech for both consoles.