Reasons why ONLY Nintendo should release a new console.

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

LaytonsCat

I agree, which is why I think ms/sony will take the wait-and-see attitude towards their next consoles. If Nintendos thing catches on, you can bet they will follow suit.

Just remember that the technology that is aid to be powering the successor to the Wii isnt going to be cheap. With what they are talking about, Im betting Nintendo's next console will be a minimum of $300 and more likely $400. Say what you want, but a HUGE reason the Wii sold as well as it did was it's price point. Nintendo is going to have to come strong with the games that more than 10 year olds want to play. The must launch with a legit Madden. BF3 or MW3. Eternal Darkness 2, a Mario game, a Pikmin game, a legit Racer and a RPG.

The Economy is TERRIBLE right now.Tony-Baxter

No it's not, I'm sick and tired of people using that as an excuse.

"Oh the economy oh the economy" then I guess people who need to choose between food and games should pick another hobby huh?

[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"]The Economy is TERRIBLE right now.Jaysonguy

No it's not, I'm sick and tired of people using that as an excuse.

"Oh the economy oh the economy" then I guess people who need to choose between food and games should pick another hobby huh?

[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

Heirren

I agree, which is why I think ms/sony will take the wait-and-see attitude towards their next consoles. If Nintendos thing catches on, you can bet they will follow suit.

I really don't feel like buying another console right now period. Sure if the Next Nintendo is FULLY Backwards compatible I'll sell my old Wii and buy the new Nintendo.caseypayne69

Just remember that the technology that is aid to be powering the successor to the Wii isnt going to be cheap. With what they are talking about, Im betting Nintendo's next console will be a minimum of $300 and more likely $400. Say what you want, but a HUGE reason the Wii sold as well as it did was it's price point. Nintendo is going to have to come strong with the games that more than 10 year olds want to play. The must launch with a legit Madden. BF3 or MW3. Eternal Darkness 2, a Mario game, a Pikmin game, a legit Racer and a RPG.

kungfuchaos

As an example, AMD Llano APU's die size is about 170mm^2 which about same size as Xbox 360 Slim's XCGPU 169mm^2. Between the two fusion chips, the bill of materials (BOM) is about the same.

AMD Llano includes updated Quad-Core Athlon II/Phenom II type CPU with full speed 4 MB L2 cache** and up to 400 stream processors i.e. Radeon HD 66x0 level GPU.

**Each AMD Athlon II CPU core has 512 KB L2 cache, while Llano CPU core version has 1 MB L2 cache andthe latest TurboCore (auto overclocking) version.

[QUOTE="kungfuchaos"]

Just remember that the technology that is aid to be powering the successor to the Wii isnt going to be cheap. With what they are talking about, Im betting Nintendo's next console will be a minimum of $300 and more likely $400. Say what you want, but a HUGE reason the Wii sold as well as it did was it's price point. Nintendo is going to have to come strong with the games that more than 10 year olds want to play. The must launch with a legit Madden. BF3 or MW3. Eternal Darkness 2, a Mario game, a Pikmin game, a legit Racer and a RPG.

ronvalencia

As an example, AMD Llano APU's die size is about 170mm^2 which about same size as Xbox 360 Slim's XCGPU 169mm^2. Between the two fusion chips, the bill of materials (BOM) is about the same.

AMD Llano includes updated Quad-Core Athlon II/Phenom II type CPU with full speed 4 MB L2 cache** and up to 400 stream processors i.e. Radeon HD 66x0 level GPU.

**Each AMD Athlon II CPU core has 512 KB L2 cache, while Llano CPU core version has 1 MB L2 cache andthe latest TurboCore (auto overclocking) version.

what would be your guess about what kind of hardware this new console will have?

Nintendo is most likely the only console I will buy next gen. I'm going back to my Prime PC and Prime Nintendo console days of the Early 2000's and 90's.

Yes I had other consoles as well but, those were my prime platforms.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="kungfuchaos"]

Just remember that the technology that is aid to be powering the successor to the Wii isnt going to be cheap. With what they are talking about, Im betting Nintendo's next console will be a minimum of $300 and more likely $400. Say what you want, but a HUGE reason the Wii sold as well as it did was it's price point. Nintendo is going to have to come strong with the games that more than 10 year olds want to play. The must launch with a legit Madden. BF3 or MW3. Eternal Darkness 2, a Mario game, a Pikmin game, a legit Racer and a RPG.

theuncharted34

As an example, AMD Llano APU's die size is about 170mm^2 which about same size as Xbox 360 Slim's XCGPU 169mm^2. Between the two fusion chips, the bill of materials (BOM) is about the same.

AMD Llano includes updated Quad-Core Athlon II/Phenom II type CPU with full speed 4 MB L2 cache** and up to 400 stream processors i.e. Radeon HD 66x0 level GPU.

**Each AMD Athlon II CPU core has 512 KB L2 cache, while Llano CPU core version has 1 MB L2 cache andthe latest TurboCore (auto overclocking) version.

what would be your guess about what kind of hardware this new console will have?

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

As an example, AMD Llano APU's die size is about 170mm^2 which about same size as Xbox 360 Slim's XCGPU 169mm^2. Between the two fusion chips, the bill of materials (BOM) is about the same.

AMD Llano includes updated Quad-Core Athlon II/Phenom II type CPU with full speed 4 MB L2 cache** and up to 400 stream processors i.e. Radeon HD 66x0 level GPU.

**Each AMD Athlon II CPU core has 512 KB L2 cache, while Llano CPU core version has 1 MB L2 cache andthe latest TurboCore (auto overclocking) version.

ShadowDeathX

what would be your guess about what kind of hardware this new console will have?

I hope so, that'd be fantastic.

The Wii has far inferior graphics compared to X360/PS3. The Economy is TERRIBLE right now. X360/PS3 need zero help with 3rd party support. X360/PS3 have motion controls now. Moving on after just releasing Kinect/Move would be a 32X move.Tony-Baxter

Coolyfett totally agrees and is happy that Nintendo is finally joining the HD Generation. Plus it can play all Wii games so everything is going according to plan.

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

LaytonsCat

Yes they can.

[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"]The Economy is TERRIBLE right now.Jaysonguy

No it's not, I'm sick and tired of people using that as an excuse.

"Oh the economy oh the economy" then I guess people who need to choose between food and games should pick another hobby huh?

The economy is terrible.

[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

Heirren

I agree, which is why I think ms/sony will take the wait-and-see attitude towards their next consoles. If Nintendos thing catches on, you can bet they will follow suit.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"]The Economy is TERRIBLE right now.Coolyfett

No it's not, I'm sick and tired of people using that as an excuse.

"Oh the economy oh the economy" then I guess people who need to choose between food and games should pick another hobby huh?

The economy is terrible.

Yes, but it is recovering. Saying that the economy is in a reccession is not true. The reccession started in 2007, and it is now 2011. If the economy was still in state of contraction then we would be in a depression. We are slowly going back up.

[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

Heirren

I agree, which is why I think ms/sony will take the wait-and-see attitude towards their next consoles. If Nintendos thing catches on, you can bet they will follow suit.

You also forget that Nintendo is VERY Family Orientended. They put out games that little kids and old Grandmas play for the most part. I think that the 360 and PS3 can still sell pertty well against Nintendo's new console, considering the fact that there is a HUGE market for hardcore gamers.

heres why they shouldnt really release anything un til 3 yrs at least

-the price of their next gen would break peoples wallets and barely see improvment

the current consoles sell for 300 still , wii is the only one that is relitively cheap right now at 170 , will be for quite some time ,

wii 2 will release at 300-349.99 price point with enhnaced stuff under the hood and in the controller-giving ps3 360 agood run for its money

if they abandon 360 ps3 right now they wont benefit much from the upgrade -see wii 2 ,

plus with games still coming to ps3 360 , it wont make any sense to drop support right now or in 2013 - i think 2014-2015 is the optimal time -sure nintendo may be out but this is their fault cause they released moveand kenict if they release one now, alot of their new fans will be like ok you guys made somthing and now you wont support that somthing bla bla bla all the complaints will come in through left feild as a result--- they probably wont buy the next ps or 720 they may feel theyll jsut do it again and say forget it ,

either way i told you before -kenict and move was the worst thing that happened ,because they waited to long had it come in 2007-2008 fine but 2009 2010 , pushing it

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]I really don't feel like buying another console right now period. Sure if the Next Nintendo is FULLY Backwards compatible I'll sell my old Wii and buy the new Nintendo.ShadowDeathX

If Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo abandon their current consoles, they are forcing me to buy a new one if I want to keep buying currently released games.

Actually I'm really surprised they are bringing out a completely re-designed console.

All they really needed to do is upgrade the graphics card on the Wii and sell that. A WiiHD would have sold quite well, and not cost a lot for the design. Really all it would cost is the additional amount for the new chip, and whatever software tweak is needed to make sure it runs with all the previous software.

I was initally shocked to hear about a new console(especially because it was ninty being the first to let the cat out), but now that the shock has faded i'm really excited. I love buying new consoles, and cant wait until I own two more(wii2 and ???)

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

xbox360isgr8t

I agree, which is why I think ms/sony will take the wait-and-see attitude towards their next consoles. If Nintendos thing catches on, you can bet they will follow suit.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No it's not, I'm sick and tired of people using that as an excuse.

"Oh the economy oh the economy" then I guess people who need to choose between food and games should pick another hobby huh?

painguy1

The economy is terrible.

Yes, but it is recovering. Saying that the economy is in a reccession is not true. The reccession started in 2007, and it is now 2011. If the economy was still in state of contraction then we would be in a depression. We are slowly going back up.

Have you seen gas prices? There is no need to replace the Xbox 360 & Playstation 3. The Wii needs to be replaced and is being replaced. The HD Generation is giving all invested gamers their moneys worth. This is much appreciated by Coolyfett. No need to end the HD Generation. There are plenty of high quality games coming.

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[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"]

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

Ikouze

I agree, which is why I think ms/sony will take the wait-and-see attitude towards their next consoles. If Nintendos thing catches on, you can bet they will follow suit.

You also forget that Nintendo is VERY Family Orientended. They put out games that little kids and old Grandmas play for the most part. I think that the 360 and PS3 can still sell pertty well against Nintendo's new console, considering the fact that there is a HUGE market for hardcore gamers.

This is exactly true plus niether would put out a really good motion game yet. Something creative.

When people say the economy is bad, I think this applies more to MS and Sony, because they would release a power pushing system which would be incredibly expensive to develop for and launch world wide right now.

Nintendo are going to release a system slightly more capable than the 360/PS3 which is going to be well within everyones expense range across the board. Nintendo are probably going to be making profit from the off.

Nintendo is producing the next generation of HD console hardware, because they've put themselves in a competition where they can afford to, and the competition can not. Plain and simple. With the 3DS Nintendo released a powerful handheld which has no real competition. Its finally a handheld capable of easily running straight ports from the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox which the PSP was never really capable of and adds graphical capability that those consoles never posessed.

Right now the handheld comes at a premium price. However a year or so down the line when Sony gets its act together they'll release the NGP, a more powerful system which will obviously command an even higher premium price. At that point, Nintendo will drop the price of the 3DS to encourage mainstream adoption which will be easy because it will already have a fairly large library of titles, while the NGP will only have launch library available.

The next console will follow this exact same strategy. It will look powerful when it launches, it might look like the Wii when Sony and Microsoft get around to launching their next systems but it dosen't matter. Remember, Nintendo dose not care about fancy hardware or good launch titles. It was and always about making money.The March launch is a big part of this. If the competition manages to hit a holiday launch, Nintendo can counter with a price drop, a big game, and likely have far more units available on store shelves since there won't be the insanity of a system launch.

I don't care what Nintendo has up their sleeve (well i do, but i don't think it will be enough :P)

The reason i have a ps3 is because of their titles, so if anything i'll still buy another PS if the same or similar franchises are still there.

You think the new technology Nintendo will bring will attract all gamers? did the Wii sell so well because waggling was so interesting to gamers... or maybe it was because their fitness and dance games caught the heart of the casuals.

I passed up on the Wii and i'll probably skip the next one too, it's true that other companies are copying Nintendo, especially Sony... but then again i don't have the move and so far i haven't needed it so i'm happy.

However i would love the new concept to baffle me, i loved the waggle concept even if it fell short of my expectations. In the end i hope that Nintendo surprises me but we'll see.

Regarding the whole recession effect on the Wii 2/HD, it'll depend how consumers see value on the console and it's software. The recession isn't stopping people from buying $500+ iPads because consumers see value there or stop people from buying $200 Wii's just for Wii sports.

The problem with that is the PS3 and 360 can't possible succeed against whatever Nintendos got up their devious little sleeves

LaytonsCat

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No it's not, I'm sick and tired of people using that as an excuse.

"Oh the economy oh the economy" then I guess people who need to choose between food and games should pick another hobby huh?

painguy1

The economy is terrible.

Yes, but it is recovering. Saying that the economy is in a reccession is not true. The reccession started in 2007, and it is now 2011. If the economy was still in state of contraction then we would be in a depression. We are slowly going back up.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

The economy is terrible.

Yes, but it is recovering. Saying that the economy is in a reccession is not true. The reccession started in 2007, and it is now 2011. If the economy was still in state of contraction then we would be in a depression. We are slowly going back up.

[QUOTE="Gorcman"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

Yes, but it is recovering. Saying that the economy is in a reccession is not true. The reccession started in 2007, and it is now 2011. If the economy was still in state of contraction then we would be in a depression. We are slowly going back up.

savagetwinkie

gotta respectfully disagree there. While the big AAA titles like CoD and Halo continue to sell millions of copies and set new sales records. Many other publishers and developers aren't doing so well. EA laid off hundreds of employees last year. Hudson closed down. Same with Ensemble and Midway just to name a few.

I'm not saying people aren't buying games cuz that certainly isn't true, but IMHO people are being much more conservative about the types of games they buy. Example: why take a risk and buy a critically raved game like Vanquish that i'm not sure i'm gonna like when I can buy a CoD game that I know i'll have a good time with. I don't know about you guys but that's the sort of mentality I personally have right now. I do have money to spend on games, but at the same time I want to make sure I get value for my $$. Gone are the days where I spent $50 a pop on crappy games like Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm =(

When people say the economy is bad, I think this applies more to MS and Sony, because they would release a power pushing system which would be incredibly expensive to develop for and launch world wide right now.

Nintendo are going to release a system slightly more capable than the 360/PS3 which is going to be well within everyones expense range across the board. Nintendo are probably going to be making profit from the off.

Darth_DuMas

Actually I'm really surprised they are bringing out a completely re-designed console.

All they really needed to do is upgrade the graphics card on the Wii and sell that. A WiiHD would have sold quite well, and not cost a lot for the design. Really all it would cost is the additional amount for the new chip, and whatever software tweak is needed to make sure it runs with all the previous software.

coasterguy65

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"]The Economy is TERRIBLE right now.sethman410

No it's not, I'm sick and tired of people using that as an excuse.

"Oh the economy oh the economy" then I guess people who need to choose between food and games should pick another hobby huh?

And yet somehow people still buy videogames and consoles like crazy. The 3DS was a 250$ handheld and had absolutely no software and it still sold 4 million units in a month. the Economy is not an issue.

This is basically what people have been saying for the last few years.tomarlyn

Yep and it is actually happening now. Wii2 vs PS3 vs 360 a competition of real gaming systems. The circle is now complete.

Nintendo is producing the next generation of HD console hardware, because they've put themselves in a competition where they can afford to, and the competition can not. Plain and simple. With the 3DS Nintendo released a powerful handheld which has no real competition. Its finally a handheld capable of easily running straight ports from the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox which the PSP was never really capable of and adds graphical capability that those consoles never posessed.

Right now the handheld comes at a premium price. However a year or so down the line when Sony gets its act together they'll release the NGP, a more powerful system which will obviously command an even higher premium price. At that point, Nintendo will drop the price of the 3DS to encourage mainstream adoption which will be easy because it will already have a fairly large library of titles, while the NGP will only have launch library available.

The next console will follow this exact same strategy. It will look powerful when it launches, it might look like the Wii when Sony and Microsoft get around to launching their next systems but it dosen't matter. Remember, Nintendo dose not care about fancy hardware or good launch titles. It was and always about making money.The March launch is a big part of this. If the competition manages to hit a holiday launch, Nintendo can counter with a price drop, a big game, and likely have far more units available on store shelves since there won't be the insanity of a system launch.

flipdc5

Lies and pure rubbish. Nintendo is making a new system because their current one is NOT selling. Even the CEO has stated as much.

I doubt the new Nintendo console will be a huge jump from P3/360 level and don't think Nintendo can repeat what they did with Wii again this doesn't happen every generation so guess Sony and MS are the ones at advantage here since they can sell their current console at cheaper price with an already huge install base at least for another 2 or 3 years.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]This is basically what people have been saying for the last few years.Coolyfett

Yep and it is actually happening now. Wii2 vs PS3 vs 360 a competition of real gaming systems. The circle is now complete.

yeah the wii 2 can wait i'm more interested in getting a new 360